CDC: Coronavirus Can Live on Surfaces for 17 Days

CDC: Coronavirus Can Live on Surfaces for 17 Days
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The coronavirus survived for up to 17 days aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship, living far longer on surfaces than previous research has shown, according to new data published Monday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. 

The study examined the Japanese and U.S. government efforts to contain the COVID-19 outbreaks on the Carnival-owned Diamond Princess ship in Japan and the Grand Princess ship in California. Passengers and crew on both ships were quarantined on board after previous guests, who didn’t  have any symptoms while aboard each of the ships, tested positive for COVID-19 after landing ashore.

The virus “was identified on a variety of surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess but before disinfection procedures had been conducted,” the researchers wrote, adding that the finding doesn’t necessarily mean the virus spread by surface.

“COVID-19 on cruise ships poses a risk for rapid spread of disease, causing outbreaks in a vulnerable population, and aggressive efforts are required to contain spread,” the CDC wrote, reiterating its guidance to vulnerable populations to avoid cruises during the pandemic.

Researchers from the National Institutes of Health, CDC, UCLA and Princeton University previously found that COVID-19 can last up to three days on plastic and stainless steel. That study also found that the amount of the virus left on those surfaces decreased over time. 

The new study set out to determine how “transmission occurred across multiple voyages of several ships.” They noted that as of March 17, there were at least 25 cruise ship voyages with confirmed COVID-19 cases that were detected either during or after the cruise ended.

Almost half, 46.5%, of the infections aboard the Diamond Princess were asymptomatic when they were tested, partially explaining the “high attack rate” of the virus among passengers and crew.

The Diamond Princess and its 3,700 passengers and crew were quarantined at a Japanese port on Feb. 4 after a previous passenger was diagnosed with COVID-19 after he returned to Hong Kong. The ship quickly became what was at the time the largest cluster of confirmed COVID-19 cases outside of China with more than 800 passengers and crew eventually becoming infected.

Nine people died after disembarking the ship. The Japanese government and other nations eventually evacuated their citizens.

The researchers found that 712 of 3,711 people on the Diamond Princess, or 19.2% were infected by COVID-19.

The other ship included in the study, the Grand Princess, was forced to moor off the coast of California after two patients who had disembarked in California tested positive. A total of 78 cases were eventually tied back to the ship across two separate voyages. After several days, California officials brought the ship to the Port of Oakland, where passengers disembarked and were transported to federal quarantine facilities.

The Diamond Princess and Grand Princess accounted for more than 800 total COVID-19 cases, including 10 deaths.

 

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    Robert Cyrklis · 2 months ago
    That's longer than how long the elderly should live.
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    Deborah Cresswell · 2 months ago
    Nice to know about the 17 days. Did they test it longer than 17 days, or did they just begin disinfecting after 17 days. In other wards we don't know how long this virus remains alive on surfaces.

    The virus “was identified on a variety of surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated......the researchers wrote, adding that the finding doesn’t necessarily mean the virus spread by surface.

    Have these "researchers" heard of Fomites???? Or how about Airborne???

    "Airborne transmission refers to infectious agents that are spread via droplet nuclei (residue from evaporated droplets) containing infective microorganisms. These organisms can survive outside the body and remain suspended in the air for long periods of time. They infect others via the upper and lower respiratory tracts."[11] The size of the particles for airborne infections need to be < 5 μm.[12] It includes both dry and wet aerosols and thus requires usually higher levels of isolation since it can stay suspended in the air for longer periods of time. i.e., separate ventilation systems or negative pressure environments are needed to avoid general contamination. e.g., tuberculosis.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_(medicine)#Airborne_infection



    A fomite (/ˈfoʊmaɪt/) or fomes (pronounced /ˈfoʊmiːz/) is any inanimate object that, when contaminated with or exposed to infectious agents (such as pathogenic bacteria, viruses or fungi), can transfer disease to a new host.[1]

    For humans, skin cells, hair, clothing, and bedding are common hospital sources of contamination of fomites.

    Fomites are associated particularly with hospital-acquired infections (HAIs), as they are possible routes to pass pathogens between patients. Inadequately washed hands, Stethoscopes and neckties are common fomites associated with health care providers.

    Basic hospital equipment, such as IV drip tubes, catheters, and life support equipment, can also be carriers, when the pathogens form biofilms on the surfaces. Careful sterilization of such objects prevents cross-infection. Used syringes, if improperly handled, are particularly dangerous fomites.

    In addition to objects in hospital settings, other common fomites for humans are cups, spoons, pencils, bath faucet handles, toilet flush levers, door knobs, light switches, handrails, elevator buttons, television remote controls, pens, touch screens, common-use phones, keyboards, and computer mice, coffeepot handles, countertops, and any other items that may be frequently touched by different people and infrequently cleaned.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomite
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    henry schwarz · 2 months ago
    CDC - 17 days
    Interesting, April 10 is in 17 days.
    4.10.20
    D. J. T.
    can you see it ?

    https://twitter.com/0ctoberReignz/status/1242461831022530560?s=20
    https://qmap.pub/read/34 !!

    Everything is going as planned !
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      Shane Chambers · 2 months ago
      Q is just a rumor outlet, like a tabloid on steroids. I haven't seen anything that came from Q ever come to pass. I do believe in government incompetence and stupidity, that's real.
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        Deborah Cresswell · 2 months ago
        You obviously haven't looked. Study the Q "Proofs".
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          · 2 months ago
          Yes, actually have. Very low, if at all, positive rating on predictions. As the saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day. "Q" makes so many predictions, it is right some of the times just based on blind luck if nothing else. I listen to and accept anything Q says with quite a bit of skepticism. I have a customer in my shop sometimes who is well read on Q, he is always telling me of the predictions...none of which have come to fruition. Just another failed Nostradamus.
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    Charles Yearwood · 2 months ago
    I don’t trust anything coming from CDC.
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      Gregg Walker · 2 months ago
      Oh come on. So they’re a little clumsy; so they make a few HUGE mistakes; all in all they are just working hard for the ‘health and well-being’ of the American people.

      Big eye roll...

      I think most of us are with you on that one!
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      Grim · 2 months ago
      That's because you're obviously in possession of a functional sense of *discernment*, which sadly seems to be in very short supply these days. Hope things are going well for you Charles.
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    · 2 months ago
    Johns Hopkins numbers for the virus for the US are being manipulated. It was 610 earlier tonight and now its 590. Theyve got to show a low death rate. Who the hell put these fuckers in charge of the count anyway
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      Gregg Walker · 2 months ago
      I have read where some of the research into adapting viruses was done at John’s Hopkins. Not sure where that was but I believe in multiple sources. Every time someone refers to them helping, I am very suspicious.
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      Jill Hart · 2 months ago
      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I am watching here. This is the place Chris Martenson is taking his numbers from.
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        · 2 months ago
        Jill, my wife and I saw yesterday the reported cases for NYC go from 15000ish to 5,000 in two minutes. Maybe someone fat fingered the input?
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    Don Hall · 2 months ago
    You Can't Handle The TRUTH. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ct92GUifus
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      · 2 months ago
      Another false prophet.
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      TSlinger · 2 months ago
      EXCELLENT. Unless you erroneously believe that man is basically good.
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    Kyle in PA · 2 months ago
    Meanwhile postal service did a study and found no evidence of surface spread.
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      Jill Hart · 2 months ago
      yep, one test, early on in a pandemic is not going to give one the same information as consistently doing the test through out the spread period.
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    Steve McGarvey · 2 months ago
    Doom is over people. Doctor treated 500 patients in NY with the French protocol that costs 12 bucks. 100% cure rate, no serious illness, no need for ventilator. Virus level undetectable in 6 days. This isn't BS, things are going back to normal within a few weeks. Now we just have to bail out the fat cats on our dime but hey, better than a world of death and chaos.
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    · 2 months ago
    This has been known for weeks.
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      Jill Hart · 2 months ago
      Yes it has!!! Medcram was talking about this in late February.
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    Gregory Hoehn · 2 months ago
    I'm pretty sure a virus cannot live on a surface with out fresh genetic material or be airborne unless in spittle or mucous. I think we are being deceived to take away all of our freedoms and to destroy the middle classes wealth!! stay informed people.
    https://youtu.be/n1XBb5OgAPw
    https://youtu.be/HQQtOQUkUoI
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      Carl Goldsworthy · 2 months ago
      "survived" "finding doesn’t necessarily mean the virus spread by surface"
      They are scientifically recording as much info as they can for later analysis.
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    Donald Foreman · 2 months ago
    Long article but worth the read as follows:
    Have We Still Not Learned To Connect the Dots?
    by Stewart Best

    Have We Still Not Learned To Connect the Dots?

    The near total take-down of America under the guise of the Coronavirus pandemic is well underway and hardly anyone seems to be asking some serious questions as to why? Any nation that would stop all business and shutdown the entire economy over a death count far below that of the simple flu is a mystery – that is unless you have another agenda in mind.

    And what agenda might that be? While the Christian right seems to think that Donald J. Trump is a savior of the nation and a Christian, and whose “spiritual counselor” is a total apostate, was it not Israel that asked for a king instead of God to rule over them? And what happened to them for doing that? Have we not done the same thing? And what do you suppose the end result of that choice will be for America, AKA Mighty Babylon The Great.

    One might want to read Isaiah, Jeremiah and Revelation to see THE CHRISTIANS ARE THE TARGET FOR KILLING. No deep state people are found. NONE, not even mentioned in the Bible, for “evil men wax worse and worse” and who makes war with the saints? It is Jeremiah, Daniel, Isaiah, Jesus and others that say God’s people are rounded up and put in prison camps and antichrist will not let them go. The round-up and the torture and killing of Christians IS MENTIONED. Why do we not believe it? Are we nothing but MILK TOAST BABY CHRISTIANS who choke even on the MILK, let alone the MEAT OF DOCTRINE?

    So why do we need such a LOCKDOWN that our leaders are saying is NOT A LOCKDOWN, nor is it MARTIAL LAW, even though the military has been activated, is now on some streets in America, and yet, we are told NOT TO WORRY, no lockdown, no martial law, NO PROBLEMS, nothing here, move on, please. Reminds me of Alfred E. Neuman and “What? Me Worry? Why are there so many contradictions in all of this? Liars often forget all the lies they tell and invent new ones as they go along.

    Let us not forget the 4th beast of Daniel, that makes war upon the Lord’s people and kills many of them. Let’s not forget the total anti-Christ spirit in America is still alive and well. And let’s not forget how easy it is to fool Christians who are in love with this world and have decided that prophecy is not important. Christians are called “sheep” because sheep are one of the most gullible and stupid of all animals. Always remember that Jesus said the children of Darkness are smarter than the children of light.

    And lets not forget how easy all of this will be to somehow BLAME THE CHRISTIANS for much of this, and how it is the Christians that believe in all of this mambo-jumbo of Bible prophecy and their desire to see the world come to an end. Like everything is Trump's fault can easily be turned into "everything is the Christians fault. How it is going to be done remains to be see, but SOMETHING HAPPENS that makes to world turn in HATRED against the Christians.

    And now we suddenly have “Q” resurfacing, the same “Q” that for years told us about how the DEEP STATE OPERATIVES were all going to be rounded up and sent down to Cuba for “military tribunals” to judge them and then apparently have them done away with. “Next week” we were told for well over 2 and a half years now. Always it was “next week” but it NEVER HAPPENED! And yet now we hear once again the TARGET of all of this is DEEP STATE operatives, and all of these leaders of Deep State, the lawless ones are now suddenly going to be taken down by the Coronavirus and done away with, AND HOW THIS OPERATION MAY TAKE A MONTH OR MORE before its over, and that the so-called “SHELTER IN PLACE” is to “protect us” while this operation is being carried out.

    I would ask if Hillary is in prison? Obama? Any of them? The only ones in prison or indicted were Trump's people, no one else. Why is that? How deep is deep state, and how far down the rabbit hole do we go to pull back the curtain and find the Wizard of Oz? I think his name is Satan, I heard that somewhere, but maybe not.

    What if the LOCKDOWN and GOING DARK in the government taking over all energy and communications is actually to ROUND UP the “enemies of the state, all previously defined as those who love the Bible, prophecy, the constitution, the bill of rights, are against abortion, and who “cling to their Bibles and guns” as antichrist Obama said? There was a book called “The Art of War” written by a Chinese general who said that DIVERSION was the best way to defeat an enemy. What better way to divert the Christians than to claim DEEP STATE IS THE TARGET when in fact, THEY ARE. We all have to wait and see, and we pray that all of this IS NOT NOW, BUT MUCH LATER, DOWN THE ROAD A BIT. But what if it isn’t? I have this awful feeling it IS NOW, not later.

    Why would anyone believe a totally discredited “Q?” Lie to me once, but lie to me 100’s of time and I am still to pay any attention to what is said, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT TOTALLY CONTRADICTS THE BIBLE IN multiple places? And yet, people are falling for it all over again. Why? Most likely FEAR AND DENIAL.

    Is Trump going to lead us into a NEW GOLDEN AGE? Perhaps, but it will not at all be what people think it is, for any golden age is a lie and a delusion, complete with the FALLEN ONES arriving to help mankind out – and of course destroying all those “wicked Christians” who are holding the evolution of humanity back!!

    People should really take a good look at Trump’s suite in TRUMP TOWER and notice how Masonic and occultic it all is. One should take note that he is deeply involved with all the rich and famous and has been for years and years, like George Soros and the Rockerfellers and others. Do you really think they don’t control most of what is going on? If not, Psalm Two is a lie. Deuteronomy 28 and Revelation 18 are lies. Have we forgotten how Trump used the poem about the “silly woman” who took in a snake three times? Or how he told a rally that “they took me in, they took me in?” DO NOT FORGET IT.

    So perhaps we should take a step back and look at the big picture, and for once, maybe we ought to BELIEVE what the Bible teaches us, rather than what we perceive though our eyes and ears. The DEEP STATE is controlled by Satan, you know, that old serpent who deceives the WHOLE EARTH. Remember that is why Jesus Christ told us that the END DAYS within the Matrix Prison would be nothing but lies and deceptions, the apex of the STRONG DELUSION. Satan and God get together to bring about a delusion so powerful that only the truly saved could see through it and not be fooled, just as Jesus exclaimed when He told us that “if it were possible, it would fool even the elect.”

    2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

    10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

    11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    What you are hearing, what you are seeing right now is a DELUSION, A LIE AND A DECEPTION by Deep State EXACTLY as Psalm Two says – so why don’t we believe it? We say, “not now, later, this could not be it – it’s down the road.” Well, one of the reasons is that we are not READY for Jesus Christ to return, and we KNOW IT DEEP WITHIN. So, we don’t WANT HIM TO RETURN all the while saying we can’t wait!!

    It's not NOW, the end is yet DOWN THE ROAD A WAYS, it is never NOW, it is always IN THE FUTURE. But OMEGA POINT for the Church has to come, like it not, ready or not. The only question is. WHEN? The clues are all there, the SIGNS are all there, the CONVERGENCE OF SIGNS is now occurring. Perhaps what is coming will be so horrific to Americans that they will WISH FOR DEATH. I think I read that in Revelation somewhere, I wonder if it is true. Do you suppose? NOT NOW, LATER.

    Therefore, because it is YET FUTURE, we can believe that Trump could not possible MISLEAD ANYONE, especially the Christians, for yet in a little while or “soon” antichrist will ascend, but NOT NOW. Is it possible that Trump himself is totally unaware of his real role? OF COURSE. Is it possible that many of our kings and rulers are not AWARE of their role, that they are dupes in a grand plan of Satan’s? OF COURSE.

    It is like SIN, it is not us, it is our neighbor. Lies, deceptions and delusions are always IN THE FUTURE, not NOW. But what if it Is now? What if we truly are at OMEGA POINT for the Church Age and it is about to close? WHAT IF?

    In one breath we say we cannot wait for the Return, but in the next we cannot accept that it might be NOW! And why is it that people cannot accept that our very elite rulers and leaders do not care at all about humanity, but rather, in spite of all their words, they want to exterminate us? Do you suppose the Georgia Guidestones was erected on 3-22-1980 as a joke? The very same number of the satanic Skull & Bones elite?

    2019-03-21_9-04-04

    2019-03-19_9-14-30

    That millions of dollars were spent on the Guidestones for the fun of it? And why did they engrave the 6.5 million CULLING OF HUMANITY on solid rock? Why did they mock Jesus Christ by saying it was a “Mr. Christianson” who ordered it and paid for it? And why did they mock the 10 commandments of the Lord with their own horrific ten commandments? Clearly MYSTERY OF THE BIBLE was behind the entire operation and their hatred for God and His anointed is now clearly shown!!

    Why is it that we cannot accept PSALM TWO? Why is it that we simply are always looking for a way around what it says, just as Christians are always looking for a way around the command to pick up THEIR OWN CROSS? Clearly, God gave us Psalm Two, and made NO EXCLUSIONS, but told us point blank that ALL OF THE WORLDS RULERS AND AUTHORITIES were involved with NO EXCEPTIONS? Do we dare claim that God is blind and made a mistake here?

    And Psalm Two also tells us that the “Kings and Rulers” would gather together to bring about their ONE WORLD ORDER. Where do they gather together? THE UNITED NATIONS. The United Nation is a communist, antichrist organization that says it wants to rule the entire world. Inasmuch as it is antichrist, then one might suspect that to do that, the CHRISTIANS would have to be REMOVED. Christianity is standing in the way of the next evolutionary jump! It’s in their occult writings, their statements, and yet we cannot accept that for what it really is. NOT NOW, LATER, IN THE FUTURE, BUT NOT NOW.

    More and more folks are now attempting to say NOT NOW, there is much to be “fulfilled” in prophecy so it cannot be NOW, it is YET FAR IN THE FUTURE. Cosmic sign after cosmic sign goes by and events around the world point much more to the period of “soon” in Psalm 90 is about to close. ARE YOU READY? The answer is NO, the Church is NOT READY, and so it is better to be DOWN THE ROAD A WAYS. Perhaps, but maybe Jesus is AT THE DOOR and the age of Grace is about to close with a BIG BANG.

    Remember, Jesus said that His return was "as a snare" as "lightning", that is, with no warning, sudden and at a time no one expected. WOW! But no, it is DOWN THE ROAD, NOT NOW, IT COULD NOT BE NOW. IMPOSSIBLE. I love this world, please don't come now!

    Much like governments who always “kick the can down the road”, and refuse to face major problems, the Church is “kicking the can down the road for any “rapture event” and mocking those whose who do warn that we are close. That denial is now a constant.

    It is possible it is down the road? Of course, but the SIGNS say AT THE DOOR. I would not want to bet we are looking at many more years. The signs are everywhere.

    So, what is all of this about? What is really going on here? CONNECT THE DOTS. The Coronavirus fits the bill for a perfect storm and and as David Icke says, it checks off everything the elite desire to cull the herd, from high death count to economic collapse and a new MARK SYSTEM. From total control of energy to food, to money, to EVERYTHING. It offers an excuse to take away all freedoms from the American people, cancel the Bill of Rights, and install the “Protocols Of the Elders of Zion” New World Order.

    “We (the elite) will tell the masses that we have to suspend all of their rights because of this EMERGENCY” and we will tell them that as soon as the EMERGENCY is OVER, we will go back to normal and give all their rights back. But, of course, we will be lying to them for we have no plans WHATEVER TO GIVE THEM BACK.” IN PARAPHRASE. It is in IRON MOUNTAIN, it is in SILENT WEAPONS FOR QUIET WARS, it is in Deagel.com and their population rollback, it is engraved in STONE, it is on the murals at the Denver Airport, it is in the elite writings for years and years – it is what Bill Gates as been saying for years, and what the plans for this go back so far that NO ONE HAS ANY EXCUSE!!

    Have we forgotten Project Megiddo of the FBI, that warned about Christians who believed the Bible and prophecy as being enemies of the state? Have we forgotten all about the “Fusion Centers” set up all over America and their statements against Christians and those who believe in the constitution and bill of rights? Have we forgotten JADE-HELM and the “round-up” of targeted Americans? Have we forgotten all about the UN Agenda 21/30/50? Have we forgotten all about the multitudes of anti-Christian remarks from OBAMA and his minions? Have we forgotten all about FEMA camps and all of those executive orders, or about Project Garden Plot?

    2020-03-17_7-03-12

    Have we forgotten the Rockefeller plans issued in 2010? Or Bill Gates remarks about a “vaccine” to help cure the problem of over-population? Or the Plan For the New American Century? Have we forgotten about the many books, articles, videos and movies of hatred for Jesus Christ that have been written by the elite over the years? Have we forgotten about movies like “Paul” concerning an “alien” who mocks Christians and Christianity, and many other movies like that? Or about how Christians are “holding back” the Orwellian New World Order and the New Age writings that we must round up and kill all Christians to cleanse the planet and advance to the New Golden Age? How much evidence does one need? The answer is that NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE can get through a mind-set that says NOT NOW, LATER, it is DOWN THE ROAD A BIT.

    Have we forgotten what the Book of Revelation says about a LAMB BEAST, posing as Christian, that rises up but speaks as a dragon? That a huge DECEPTION and huge DELUSION comes upon the world and the Church? Have we forgotten what evolution, now in all science and schools, does to the Christian world view and Jesus Christ as Messiah? Have we forgotten all of this? It seems so. Not now, down the road somewhere, perhaps over the rainbow. I feel better, I need my comfort denial, or I won’t sleep well.

    Have any of these powers of the world governments that they granted to themselves in an “emergency” ever be recanted? NO. They are advancing all of this at now breakneck speed, assuming TOTAL POWERS OF TOTAL CONTROL, for they know their time is short. You Christians are in denial, for PHASE ONE of the culling operations as stated by the elite for years is HAPPENING NOW. It does not matter if the “coronavirus” is being blown out of all proportions or not, what matters is GLOBAL GOVERNMENT RESPONSE and it is a GLOBAL LOCKDOWN AND THE REMOVAL OF ALL HUMAN RIGHTS WORLD-WIDE. OPEN YOUR EYES, OPEN YOUR EARS.

    And yet, I am hearing that it is NOT NOW, for it cannot be NOW, it is yet future, as the future always seems to make us feel better, sort of like comfort food. It is no different than the Christians of today saying that “THE SAYINGS OF JESUS CHRIST DO NOT APPLY TO US” but to Israel, and the four gospels belong in the Old Testament and are not for us, they were written for the Jews, and on and on the apostate satanic preachers, teachers, evangelists and “prophetic scholars” go with their lies and deceptions.

    WHAT GOOD IS IT TO KNOW ALL ABOUT THE FUTURE if you are not in truth SAVED? Having rejected everything the Bible tells us as to what TRUE SALVATION IS, the apostates continue in their path to utter ruin and hellfire. The modern Christian theology is a pack of lies generated out of the heart of Satan, and as Jesus says to this modern day apostate Church, “they KNOWEST NOT that they are poor, blind, miserable and naked”, that is, TOTALLY UNSAVED and going to eternal ruin. The warning of “wolves” in sheep’s clothing goes unnoticed. Peter’s warning about the modern-day preachers, teachers and evangelists also goes unnoticed!

    Indeed, was it not the non-existent “Protocols Of the Elders Of Sion” that told us they would infiltrate and destroy Christianity from within? They would infiltrate the seminaries, the pulpits and destroy the faith. THEY HAVE. Mission accomplished. The only thing left is to ROUND UP AND EXTERMINATE THE CHRISTIANS, the Constitutionalists, the Bill of Righters, those that love motherhood and apple pie. KILL THEM ALL. Have you forgotten all of this? Are you going to say NOT NOW, LATER, BUT NOT NOW? But what if it IS NOW? What is the Trump warning of a STORM COMING. A storm for whom? Exactly for who does the bell toll? 10 days of darkness, we are told. The government has just taken over all energy systems in America. America is being nationalized, with nary a whimper from anyone. Communists always nationalize, for there is no such thing as PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, exactly was Agenda 21/30/50 tells you.

    And what about Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars, or Iron Mountain? Are they just a hoax? Are we to believe they are a hoax because the elite say they are? Since when do governments NOT LIE CONSTANTLY TO THEIR CITIZENS? Usually, whatever they say is a lie or a hoax is actually the truth of the matter. After all, it was the CIA, it is said, the coined the phrase "conspiracy theory" so people would not believe it.

    So, what is next? Will Trump pull a rabbit out of the hat and save America? Will he stop the slide down the rabbit hole of total economic collapse? Will he arrest and detain the DEEP STATE OPERATIVES as “Q” claims, or is this lockdown and activation of the military and FEMA to round up for the Christians? What does the Bible tell us about what happens in America? Who is the TARGET? I FOR ONE WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE PSALM TWO. The target is GOD THE FATHER, JESUS CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT. To deny that is to deny your Lord. Why will you not believe all of what is happening now, A GLOBAL PANDEMIC, called that by a GLOBAL UNITED NATIONS, the FORTH BEAST OF DANIEL, and a total GLOBAL SHUTDOWN OF ALL NATIONS, and YET refuse to believe EVERYTHING PROPHECY HAS TOLD YOU?

    Watch the video “Daniel and The Four Beasts”:

    https://www.brighteon.com/040b340f-431c-4a1c-846d-41006cf03a49



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      Rhonda Doerr · 2 months ago
      I agree on many aspects of this. Unfortunately many Christians are not obeying the WORD of GOD and INSTEAD following the false man-made doctrines of their denominations. I was one of those until JESUS opened my eyes to the lies I was taught my whole life and called me out of it. Those with eyes will see and ears will hear.

      May YeHoVaH have mercy on us in this tribulation. I seek HIS wisdom, knowledge, provisions and discernment in these times and ask that HE guide me to be in HIS WILL and walking in HIS WAYS as JESUS did and taught; to be covered and washed clean by the Blood of HIS Beloved SON JESUS/YESHUA the MESSIAH - KING of kings!
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      · 2 months ago
      Sorry, I have great difficulty in believing anything that constantly looks for the worst in everything and make any action a call for the end of the world/apocalypse. If everything is the end, then nothing is. I am a believer and have read the bible through numerous times. I believe in Jesus, the son of God and the sacrifice He made on the cross for my sin. I have repented of my sin and have been washed free of sin through immersion of baptism. The Bible tells us that Jesus Himself stated that NO ONE, including Himself knows the time except His Father in heaven. All this guessing and time setting fly in the face of the Bible and His word. We are to live our lives so that others can see God living in us which brings honor to Him. There will be signs, yes, I know. But all this fixation on what you believe are signs takes away from our mission here; to lead others to Him. Live your lives, trust in Him and bring as many as you can to the Father.
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        Donald Foreman · 2 months ago
        Like yourself I have read the Bible many times and know it fairly well but until I got a Strong's Concordance and started looking up in the Greek and Hebrew what the verses really meant I got a wholly different perspective. Bible tells you to come to him as a child forget your opinions, biases, learnings and let the Holy Spirit guide you to the truth. God will bring it all to you if you are truly sincere. Very few people can do that they let self get in the way. I like the verse that says you can know the Bible backwards and forward but you will not come to him it profits you nothing. Many examples and clues for the one who is truly seeking out God/Jesus. Also there is a Godly repentance and a Worldly repentance, one leads you to God the other to death. Most people don't know the difference. Also as we get closer to the end the birth pains will become more frequent. God tells you to watch the wise will know. Tip of the iceberg.
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          · 2 months ago
          Agree 100%. It's strange, odd and revealing that every time I read the bible through again I learn something new. God's spirit is alive in all that accept Him and is sanctifying us day by day until we die. It is through His Holy Spirit that we draw closer to Him.

          I use a study Bible and have a Strong's as well but don't use the Strong's often.
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      Kyle in PA · 2 months ago
      I always thought the churches would be apoatate and clueless . Not only are they not listening to the word of God, they support the antichrist( or at least antichrist figure of this day- trump) while israel keeps calling him messiah. (Shaking head- as a true believer..not surprised what I see in fake christians)
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      TSlinger · 2 months ago
      "...so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." Mt 24:24 Nope. Sola scriptura, exegetic examination of scripture in proper contex hemeneutically, and you aren't all "chicken little" about this. And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life? Mt 6:27. Where is our faith? Apparently on the worldly prognosticators, political "leaders", Pellagian demi-teachers, and the group-think hustlers. If only we cared enough to fall on our faces before the Almighty, and praise the name of Jesus by burying ourselves in, and begging understanding for His Word. If only...we...but distractions and cares.

      The LORD to Solomon- who begged for wisdom: "If I close the sky so there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send a plague among My people, and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land."
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    Brian Ulrich · 2 months ago
    Unless we see deaths sky rocket this week..we are going back to work in 7 days.. yeah NY and Commifornia might stay under partial lockdown but aside from that we are going back to work.. there’s too much info coming out that we have treatments that work. The curve IS flattening as we speak. Most Americans will be back at work next week. The economy can’t stand being shut down for 20 more days. And Trump won’t allow it to happen.
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      Jill Hart · 2 months ago
      The thing about exponential numbers is that they don't become obviously a problem until it is too late to do anything about it. We in the US sit at 46K infected this morning (3/24/20) 2 weeks ago that number was around 500. Yes I understand there was no testing. I suspect that we will hit the 80K mark by the end of the week. Los Angeles gave up testing. There is functionally no food in the stores. In seven days there will be thousands of deaths. In another seven there will be tens of thousand. I suspect that once we get to thousands of deaths the counting part will become muddled. It is hard to keep counting the dead (look at China) when people start dying at home.

      On the good news side; it is possible this cloraquine will work on a massive scale. That is my prayer.
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      Shane Chambers · 2 months ago
      What country are you using as a model for your prediction? All of the Countries that have been infected before us are still under lockdown. I'm sorry, but the real world facts don't support your wishes.
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        Brian Ulrich · 2 months ago
        there not wishes... after 7 days are up. He’s going to start lifting bam. He’s staring an economic depression in the face... we didn’t have Millions of generational welfare recipients in the last depression. These folks live in the day.. if our economy collapses these people will burn down cities... Trump may not lift travel bans overseas but he is going to let us go back to work in seven days
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          Shane Chambers · 2 months ago
          Meet me back here in 7 days and we will discuss this prediction. I wish you were correct, but I know you are sadly mistaken and misinformed. The economic depression started LONG before Trump did anything. In fact, the stock market dropped about 3000 points before Trump had any real action. Then it was like press conference a couple of times a week on this. This is the way it's going to be for the next 14 - 18 months until the clinical trials on a vaccine are ready to mass inoculate everyone.
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        Kyle in PA · 2 months ago
        Yeah I couldnt believe what I just heard. You can see trump is soo mad and angry at dr. Fauci. Doesnt matter if 90% die, trumps only concern is babylon. If this happens next week- thats when I stop going to work. It'll just explode in #s
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          Jill Hart · 2 months ago
          Dr Fauci actually understands the numbers. Trump really doesn't.
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      Taylor Luster · 2 months ago
      You have cracked up. If you think it’s all better in a week you seriously have lost your mind.
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      · 2 months ago
      Agree and I earnestly hope that this is true. GO USA!
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    ŽoMßÎƎÞLÅÑƎT · 2 months ago
    03/22/2020
    Bloomberg article:
    (1) US Jobless Rate May Soar 30%, (47.6 million) , (2) 50% drop in the Nations GDP (2nd quarter), (3) (direct quote) “...this is a planned organized partial shutdown of the US economy in the 2nd quarter.” - Fed's Bullard Say's (Federal Reserves Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard)