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Great. Just Great! Look at what our $$ millions for each tank gets us . . . .

Great.  Just Great!  Look at what our $$ millions for each tank gets us . . . .

You want to see first hand how we've been getting bilked by the military-industrial complex?   Our Abrams tanks . . .  you know, our main battle tanks . . .  can't go up hills in the snow.  They skid and slide backwards.

This is what Six to nine MILLION DOLLARS EACH buys us?   

This is the quality and engineering excellence of the American military industrial complex?  Friggin pathetic.

Watch:

With weapons systems like this, would be even be able to defend our own country . . . in the winter????

Gee, sorry China, you have to wait until Spring to invade us because our tanks can't go up hills in snow.

 

 

 

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# RE: Great. Just Great! Look at what our $$ millions for each tank gets us . . . .selah 2023-01-22 13:38
Sounds like Poland needs a serious ass whoopin
https://www.rt.com/news/570301-polish-premier-germany-tanks-ukraine/
# THE REAL STORYTurnercom1 2023-01-22 11:16
https://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index4155.htm
# RE: THE REAL STORYselah 2023-01-22 13:57
excellent article. Thanks
# Stop!!!!! you must have ice cleats!!!Dan Edwards 2023-01-22 08:37
Hal, no tank can go uphill in Ice and snow! NONE!!!!! You have to add ice cleats and or a winter kit. I have run tracked Argos for years, they can move over and through four feet of powder but if you want to move in ice you have to have cleats Watch these Argos in powder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfSxJxfslAY

You want to move in ice, add these!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLAXkee9hmM

Put on cleats and you can move through, over or on top of anything!

Or swamp and mud you can not walk in, me and two buddies in the swamp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xf1zOqupPw
+1 # Tank Hockey pucksfishnjohn 2023-01-22 02:09
A long time ago, my Marine unit deployed in South Korea where the temps got down to -20 - -40 degrees below 0. My unit was taking a break along the side of a downhill stretch of a road. As we were eating our C-Rats (I said a long time ago), we were entertained by 3 M-48's tanks coming down the blind down hill stretch of the road. One ended up pulling doughnuts down the road and ended up in a rice patty. The second also pulled doughnuts and ended up in a ditch. The third skidded from side to side of the road, but managed to stop. So yes, if it is cold enough can find themselves in a situation they could negotiate in the dry, but on frozen roads they are like hockey pucks.
From the looks of the terrain around where the tank was negotiating the climb up a hill, it appears it is in terrain that is safe for him to practice determining the limits of his tank. I'm sure this climb is part of his training.
In high school on Saturday's in the winter, not uncommon for the high school to see us athletes taking our cars in the parking lots and pulling donuts on the icy parking lot. While it was fun to do, it also taught us how to handle our cars in case we went into a surprise skid on the road. It is good they learn the limits of their tanks so when the battle do come to them in the winter, they don't get suprise and cost people who depend on them to lose their lives.
# Old DaysWoulf 2023-01-22 03:29
Did that with my first wife. Never got over 25 mph. Fingers dug into the dash. The "Sherriff" watching this just laughed. Open parking lot, no over vehicles involved.
FUN TIMES.
# Ooops......Galwaypoet 2023-01-21 18:16
Could this be a light-hearted primer on how not to operate and maintain heavy mechanized armor? I've been in company training programs where they hammer home a point using humor.
+2 # stupid decisions get stupid prizes..easybirdie 2023-01-21 17:56
Make stupid decisions get stupid prizes! American military complex.....what a joke!
+1 # Rooskies laughing?LegionPrime67 2023-01-21 16:00
Good golly miss molly, that's embarrassing.
+4 # O'Bidendoopy 2023-01-21 15:04
So which screwups sent them to the Ukraine theater set up in the Green Environmental Safe mode , let's guess.
1. Gen. Rainbow flag Milley
2. FJB adm
3. Affirmative Action Flunky Austin
4. All the above
# RE: O'Bidenselah 2023-01-21 18:50
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+4 # ha ha ha ha ....is this what they sent to the winter season ...NHydg 2023-01-21 14:19
Those are summer ....or training treads ....... ha ha ha GOOD move ...... wonder if that was planned or just plan STUPID ...... BUT NOW with the STUPID that is running the country ...... STUPID is all we get for "leadership" and miilitary......
+1 # Good CatchKali K 2023-01-21 18:17
Well, when you send equipment to other countries for their us, it's not going to be sent in the condition we use them. Some things won't work and that's by design.
# RE: Good CatchWoulf 2023-01-22 03:34
I have never seen to many "coincidences".
+2 # just needs cleats?Dudimus Maximus 2023-01-21 14:13
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+4 # Look AgainHapHazard 2023-01-21 12:58
It looks to me as though this tank is fitted with the hard rubber treads that are used to avoid damage to roadways. This would not be the battle configuration for icy conditions.
+1 # Look AgainHapHazard 2023-01-21 12:58
It looks to me as though this tank is fitted with the hard rubber treads that are used to avoid damage to roadways. This would not be the battle configuration for icy conditions.
-2 # Before The Weapons FallDolph 2023-01-21 12:51
I was praying and interceding when these words came forth from my lovely Jesus:

A birthing has occurred. A birthing. A birthing before the pains. Howl, weep and wail oh Sinner man. Oh, Sinner woman. Backslidden child of mine. Judgment finds you this night that is day for you in my calendar of time. This appointed day of tomorrow has come. It has come.

The time of Rachel’s weeping to be heard across your world is this appointed day of tomorrow. Rachel shall weep once within a wheel within a wheel of time within time. Rachel weeps once. A second time is soon to follow. A time of testing. A time of trying.

Did I not warn you oh, world? Did I not say trying and testing? This appointed time is here… Is tomorrow… Is tomorrow’s day as darkness descends beginning with my display of lights of dancing colors for all to see and behold.

This is not a fable. This is not a joke. I speak no idle words or foolishness. Why are you so shocked my children, that I would use the darkness of pharaoh’s day upon you when I change not? There is no new thing, no new occurrence under my sun. My sun. My earth. My souls. My creation. I created it all in love. My love is an unending and everlasting.

Every plague listed both known and unknown is at my disposal. Every “new” virus or weapon created all originates from something I first created for I am the only one who speaks and creation occurs. Man, satan must have part of my original building blocks before he can create and yet you still choose to chase after the created and call it God instead of me.

The time of Rachel’s weeping is now! As the darkness descends and settles fully upon your world, I shall send forth my angels to gather those still innocent of mind. Meaning those who have as yet have fully learned and understood the difference between right and wrong, good and evil. If you are truly mine, then you will understand the innocent of mind are not called to endure the outer darkness that can be felt because it’s alive.

This day, this tomorrow’s day will be an eye opener to many who love me yet have unrepentant sin in your lives when you discover your electrical power has gone off and many scramble to find a candle before the darkness can settle any further into their homes.

I say now my children, Get the sin out now before the darkness descends! Get it out before I return! Let go of your foolish pride, your hurts that allow you to cling so desperately to anger, resentment and bitterness. These are sin children. Castaway doubt and unbelief. These are sin too.

This night, this day of tomorrow’s day I begin moving my great hand of darkness. Tomorrow’s day children. Tomorrow’s day for three days of time within time the darkness descends and remains. Time within time. A wheel within a wheel.

For those who are still physically here when the darkness ascends with some sanity still remaining in some… full cognitive ability in others I say, prepare for war! The three days of darkness and war upon Babylon, war for the world are intertwined. I say they are connected!

The darkness falls in an act of mercy and love. An answered prayer for many of my children who have been crying out for the lost. The three days of darkness and war are two judgments inside of one. Each linked so that when one is completed the other shall commence.

What say ye my wayward children? Will you repent now?

What say you Sinner man, Sinner woman, Sinner child? Will you turn to me now before it’s too late?
Come to me! Come to me! My arms are wide open. My hands are extended out to you. Come to me and let me wash the sin stains off your souls. Do it now! Come while you can for, I say a great shaking is to occur upon your world like never seen before.
My hand is stirring, stirring your earth! The ground beneath your feet! The Ocean’s deep! The earth is groaning from the weight of man’s sins. Soon she will not be able to bear it as she rumbles and groans then splits wide open from designated place upon place. Still for the judgment coming in this “now” season of now you are in.

Tribulation’s days have begun. My two witnesses are now fully here possessing my holy anointing like no other have ever possessed. Voices crying in the wind. They are here! They are emerging from my protective hand protecting their identities. For it is not only the anointing to call down fire and all plagues they possess.

They are humble hearted servants who refuse and will always refuse to bend the knee to anyone but me Jesus, Son of the living God. Many have seen them as men of old in sackcloth and ashes in dreams and visions but I say again it is the anointing of the prophets upon them as well as that which is mine through my Spirit which gives my 2 olive branches, my candlesticks the ability to withstand satan, antichrist and the whole world who will strive against them until their appointed time is up.

Those that have ears to hear my truth, eyes to see what the Spirit is made known shall soon have more understanding pertaining to my chosen two. Humble hearts they are. Warriors of faith. They have arrived fully into their position having received the anointing necessary to the fulfilling of this call upon each’s life.

Three days of darkness comes. Rachel will weep for her children. It will be but a moment for my true children who understand they will now be with me. But it’s weeping and wailing for those whose hearts are not ready as I remove their innocent from this evil world.

A dividing, that which I have spoken about for much of your recent time is now evident to each heart. More so as the darkness descends, and the true condition of your soul can be seen for my children by whether they have their electrical power or whether they are found to have candlelight.
Tomorrow’s today is here. It starts at now on tomorrow’s today. Seek me for your understanding of all these things and quit seeking all your answers from another. I will speak to each heart directly for what way is best for their understanding if and when they fully seek me.

Pray to the Father in my name. Go to my holy word of truth and truth, only pure truth you shall find. But remember my word confirms itself. I am the way, the truth and the life.

My true hearted children this is the time to shine like never before. Reach all those that are placed before you. Share my blessed hope. My gift of salvation. If they receive it, then rejoice with them. If they do not, then know it’s their choice. If you are obedient to how I lead you, then know this is all I ask of you. Let go and remember it is their choice.
I’m coming children! I’m coming and before the first weapon of mass nuclear destruction strikes your ground of Babylon…know this is to all my children worldwide, I will have already returned for you. Only Father knows the precise moment of time when I shall be given the command to go get my children. To come for you. But it is the season of this time of now!

So, keep watch because I am coming and it’s any time before these weapons fall upon Babylon who was once called America, but no more by me and hits their soil.

Verses

Matthew 2: 18
Ezekiel 18: 4
Psalms 24: 1
Jeremiah 31: 15
Exodus 10: 21-23
Ecclesiastes 1: 9
Matthew 24: 36
Zechariah 4: 11-14
Revelation 11: 3- 19
Ecclesiastes 3: 1- 8
Matthew 22: 13
Psalms 139: 12
John 8: 12
1 Peter 4: 17
Psalms 9: 8
Hebrews 12: 6- 7
Matthew 11: 28
Jeremiah 29: 13
1 Timothy 2: 4- 6

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# ProblemKali K 2023-01-21 18:36
Any time someone says Chris is returning before the Tribulation I have a problem especially when they say it's Him saying it. Here's why:
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
# Follow UpDolph 2023-01-22 01:47
Satan's victory or God's end time judgment of the world?
# Problem, ResolvedDolph 2023-01-22 01:36
The Olivet Discourse of Mathew, Mark and Luke is spoken to the Jews and its all about Christ's return to earth, not the rapture which is a Pauline doctrine.

The best pretrib rapture verses are 2Thes.2:4-8 that say the A/C can't be revealed until he who is now restraining his revelation is taken out of the way. That "he" is the body of Christ that is restraining the A/C appearance. Some say the restrainer is the Holy Spirit but that can't be because people will be saved during the Tribulation.

Others say the Church must undergo further testing to be made ready for the rapture but that suggests the blood of Jesus isn't sufficient to cleanse a sinner. It would also mean that all who have died in Christ over the past 2,000 years must be dug up and experience the Tribulation in order to be saved, equally absurd.
# You OK?KGPLR 2023-01-21 11:35
Neither can the enemy. Calm down. It's OK.
+6 # Yes they can.Coylesm86 2023-01-21 11:08
I've spent 8 years as a DOD contractor for the warrior training Alliance (WTA) on tank ranges here at Fort Carson in Colorado. I've literally watched 100's of M1A2's and other track vehicles traverse all types of terrain and steeper hills than that in icy and snowy weather. They have zero problems. We install player units on the vehicles and watch the crews inside as well, the driver's face doesn't even change when going up icy sloped terrain that you can't even walk on, it's a cake walk. I don't know what's going on in this video, but as someone that trains tank crews on the army's only "austere mountain" training staff, trust me, snow and ice are not a problem at all.
+1 # Snow , ice, ?MANYROUNDS 2023-01-21 15:02
Fort Carson is one thing, the snotty slimy bogs in Europe are another. Perhaps it would be no problem, would be more concerned with some partisan with a supply of certain anti-tank weapons that have mysteriously disappeared or been captured during battles previously. There are very many of them, and simple to use, and very difficult to avoid. Bog a few tanks down on some mountain pass, watch as the rest of the column bunches up, then hit them with indirect fire at will, a few well placed trees would do the trick. All kind of problems are a waiting.
+2 # Um nodnhq3behbnsaksasa 2023-01-21 10:25
No vehicle of that weight can go up a steep icy hill at that slow speed. The correct way would be to build up some speed (30mph or so) and let the momentum take you over. This tank is doing under 10MPH and will never make it up no matter what treads it is using.
# RE: Um noCoburnjames241 2023-01-21 10:28
Yeah that was either a situation of poor training or soldiers screwing around
+1 # I wonder if russian tanks can do thatChappyusa1 2023-01-21 10:21
Well, what do you know? An 80-ton tank can't make up an ice-packed little hill.
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+1 # NopeLegionPrime67 2023-01-21 16:04
Not gonna do it.
+1 # RE: Great. Just Great! Look at what our $$ millions for each tank gets us . . . .RAFO 2023-01-21 09:51
Someone that might know more about this please correct me, but don’t these tanks have Winter tracks with spikes that can be put on? Kind of like a souped up snow tire with studs? Maybe makes too much sense so we wouldn’t ever do that…
# Sitting DucksGaryhines 2023-01-21 09:45
Sitting Ducks For the Russian military.( This Coming week ) Tankers start training on the Leopard Tanks .also Poland is now opening up their Bomb shelters for their citizens. Can not confirm info but hearing WW3 Begins in August. Will know by August .
+1 # RE: Sitting Ducksceltic73 2023-01-21 10:28
Poland and bomb shelters? Hahahahalolplolplolol
Thanks for the laught lol
# RE: Sitting Ducksceltic73 2023-01-21 10:28
Poland and bomb shelters? Hahahahalolplolplolol
Thanks for the laught lol
+2 # Not informedtoddsingleton@hush.com 2023-01-21 09:42
I went in army 1984 M1 Abrams Tanker in Germany cold war era. We had incredible mobility in the snow frozen grounds of Europe.
Yes if you had a bad driver and tank commander there was problems, But that goes for any vehicle in snow and mud and frozen ground, But trust the M1 is one bad ass killing machine shoots from very far away with incredible devastation on its target. The m1 was specifically designed for the European theater.
+2 # radioactiveKen 2023-01-21 11:31
The armor contains depleted uranium. Every hour in an Abrams is equivalent to one chest xray. They are indeed killing machines.
# ldxldx 2023-01-21 09:28
Hey, Man of the Atom,
You obviously know what you are talking about! Here in Arkansas icy snow situations happen at least a couple of times a year. That's why I load the back of the truck with fire wood for weight and carry a gallon of bleach so if I do get stuck, I pour the bleach on my tires and my wheels roll right through it.
+1 # 3rd AD ret.Pittfan247 2023-01-21 09:23
Having spent 4 winters with the 3rd Armor Division in Germany I can tell you most tracked weapons systems will experience the same issues with snow on top of ice. Yes the tanks have a significant amount of weight, however the track systems used in these situations are designed to be road friendly so we can railhead to our battle positions. Our MBTs are truly of the highest standard and that video is simply one situation.
+1 # 3rd AD ret.Pittfan247 2023-01-21 09:22
Having spent 4 winters with the 3rd Armor Division in Germany I can tell you most tracked weapons systems will experience the same issues with snow on top of ice. Yes the tanks have a significant amount of weight, however the track systems used in these situations are designed to be road friendly so we can railhead to our battle positions. Our MBTs are truly of the highest standard and that video is simply one situation.
# RealityWoulf 2023-01-22 03:46
When a "hedge row cutter" was needed. Did the boys at the Pentagon tell you what to do? When the Japs were dug in and you had a lot crashed air craft. Whom? Gave you a "stinger". Oh yea , "that grunt" you thought "was crazy".
Sometimes we need a little "CRAZY".
# JakesShadesofgreen 2023-01-21 09:54
Hey BROTHER!

You got that right!

8th Army, 2nd Infantry Division/ROK, 25th Battalion.

KOREA Baby!

38th, Camp Kasey area!

First to Fight! First to Die!

Nothing can stop the Abrams’s. Winter is the best time to fight as the enemy has to adjust when all hail fire is on them!

HOAH!
# TREADSbeattle55 2023-01-21 09:17
As stated by previous forum members, wrong treads. But we are lagging in technology (hypersonics etc.) to many of our near peer rivals. Sad, makes me shake my head as God fearing American, and Army retiree.
+2 # Napoleon for $1000...WilliamtheResolute 2023-01-21 09:06
The American military can ignore the history of the last Nazi attack on Russia...but they can't ignore the outcome, just ask Hitler or Napoleon...it's the Russian winter stupid.
# JakesShadesofgreen 2023-01-21 08:55
Hal easy fix. Maintenance Specialist can convert to Winter Treads.

Our Army has them:)
-1 # One of manySBGlett77 2023-01-21 08:08
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This just brings to mind the many weaknesses of tanks. In a straight-up face to face battle with other armor, or against unarmored enemies, tanks are fearsome. But get them outside that box, and major weaknesses occur:

- as has been alluded to below with the high heels comments, a resourceful, gritty, HEALTHY coherent crew with true esprit de corps is the biggest strength, and vulnerability if not at 100%. My personal opinion is this factor has the DoD somewhat concerned for using U.S. personnel;

- Tracks, for a variety of reasons;

- Engine exhaust/intakes;

- Sticky fire bombs & thermite;

- Poor visibility, especially with bullets in sensor and viewing areas;

- Terrain: mud, mature thick tree areas, mountains, heavy snow, ravines, narrow unstable roads next to waterways;

- Focused/concentrated white noise EMF;

- Fuel consumption/logistical support;

- Field maintainability with quality personnel for the above;

- Crew relief;

- many other damages inflicted by a peer adversary, such as air strikes.

For these and many other reasons, tanks remain mostly a show of force for anything other than narrowly defined situations. They are too vulnerable to both spread out guerrilla or special forces and high-tech peer enemies.

Look at Afghanistan. We could only hold the cities. We never held the countryside.
# TOW...WilliamtheResolute 2023-01-21 09:12
The real threat to our tanks are the thousands of TOW and JAVALIN anti-tank weapons that our treasonous military command abandoned in Afghanistan on orders from the drooling idiot in the WH...don't think they won't appear on a future battle field against us.
+6 # Wrong Cleats??Mel 2023-01-21 07:59
This looks like a track problem. They use one type of tracks in civilian enviroments so as not to destroy roads and another in the field.

The civilian infastructure friendly treads had rubber pads. The "business" treads had a metal bar which would dig in and grab.....much like wearing chains except several orders of magniture more effective and distructive.
+1 # RE: Great. Just Great! Look at what our $$ millions for each tank gets us . . . .Canis Major 2023-01-21 07:48
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And these assholes want to push Russia into war with NATO??
No wonder why Biden and the Pentagon won't sent Abram tanks to Ukraine.
And no wonder why Medieve said those NATO tanks would burn upon entry into Ukraine.
Those tanks are worthless pieces of shit being sold around the world as the gold standard of tanks
+3 # They are hiding? What?Doug Brown 2023-01-21 09:40
What are they hiding ?
It must be something so severe they'll risk
a nuclear confrontation to keep concieled.
We commoners, we the little people, fail to
see the parameters.
People bandy about explanations: money
laundering, child sacrifice, pharmacy concerns,
But there is more. There has to be a puzzle
piece no one is looking at.
A nuclear war threatens the extinction of us all.
What is so pressing in Ukraine that Austin,
Blinkin and Biden continually reaffirm,
"WHATEVER IS NECESSARY."
Whatever is necessary to do what?
Destroy Russia? Is that akin to destroying
The only remaining Christian state upon
earth?
Put in these terms maybe the existential
aspect of the conflict begins to make sense?.
+1 # They Are Hiding WhatDolph 2023-01-21 13:15
Doug, it has been reported several times that Ukraine has a vault full of the elites dirty deeds including money laundering, child and drug trafficking, blackmailing and murder. Ukraine also is the location of major deposits uranium. Remember Hillary's dirty uranium deals a few years back?
+2 # Follow up fact.Doug Brown 2023-01-21 09:44
If indeed Russia loses,
If indeed Russian is broken up,
If this happens, Satan scores a profound victory.
# Follow UpDolph 2023-01-21 14:15
I have thought for years that the super powers will neutralize each other in WW III and that will set the stage for the Revised Roman Empire of ten nations within the boundaries of the old Roman Empire which the A/C will take over at mid-trib, 3 years from now. The Assyrian, king of the North, the progeny of Antiochus Epiphanes. The Book of Daniel narrows down the origins of the "man of sin".

One should read Joel Richardson's The Islamic Antichrist. It's Israel's neighbors who have an inborn hatred of the Jews, not Europe. Two of the antichrist's names is the Assyrian and King of the North.
+4 # Most likelygjones7777 2023-01-21 07:40
Most likely they still had the road pads on the tracks. These are rubber pads that keep the tracks from tearing up asphalt roads
But they also prevent the tracks from digging in. Which brings up a point, who the hell is going to service these tanks in the field. Certainly not the Ukes!
+2 # ducksiscos@sbcglobal.net 2023-01-21 06:37
Having been a heavy equipment mechanic and operating engineer for 50 years I have seen machines larger than the tank slide down on iceIt is a problem that has never gone away.
Large grouser bars help but ice still wins.
pin points on tracks helps but don't last long.
+2 # FirstSmiley1984*! 2023-01-21 06:35
First, I would like to thank Hal for his enormous contribution of news, to wish him good luck, and God speed in his coming medical appointment.

He provides us with unique knowledge of events at great personal risk, and undertaking this huge task as a one man band. Our sincere gratitude to you Hal for all you do for us.

Next, I would like to show you the math and a comparison: 10,400 tanks at $8.92 million each is a total of $92.76 Billion at today's prices(replacement cost). America is also rearming Europe with new NUCLEAR weapons. See:-

https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2023/01/us-installs-new-nukes-in-europe-as-destructive-as-83-hiroshima-bombs-3787351.html

UNICEF has appealed for 10.3 billion US dollars to reach more than 110 million children with humanitarian assistance across 155 countries and territories. Just over 1/10 the cost of the tanks!

It is obvious to me America has ceased to be a world leader for Peace, Prosperity, and Democracy, and is now a Military Tyrant propping up its Hegemony(Uni polarity), by corruption, deceit, and the use of weapons!
# firstrugerwild 2023-01-21 16:38
been alive for 61 years we been in some war or conflict except under trump for all those years
-1 # Based on this performance test in snow…Moosie850 2023-01-21 05:59
Tracks matter… I’d assume whoever decided to maneuver uphill in the snow without the proper equipment or the command read this or realizes you can actually put tacks on the tread… really confident in our armed forces. A+
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA123525.pdf
+3 # RE: Great. Just Great! Look at what our $$ millions for each tank gets us . . . .Gunner 2023-01-21 05:47
My God. Our country is just one huge SCAM & Ripoff.
+1 # Reality BitesWoulf 2023-01-21 04:58
" Out For Blood"- "Valley Of Wolves"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlCVMuH0prU
They say "no man left behind". How many got a shallow hole and a face full of dirt. Somethings, "not so funny".
Where is that soon to be "decommissioned" chopper parked on a hillside. With all the dead guys in it. A "thermite frag" later, "training exercise" gone wrong. Different branches? Above your pay grade. Just saying.
# Jet engineSilas8 2023-01-21 04:29
Using jet fuel to power a fragile jet engine inside a tank is just beyond stupid..

Jet fuel is expense and hard to get
It takes time to start the turbine up
It very visible to any heating satellite and missile guiding systems

In this example the engine has properly just been started and the turbine is still not running on full capacity
+3 # Watched a couple of times....LilBirdie 2023-01-21 03:51
The tracks on that tank don't have any grousers.
(Grousers are the slats that run perpendicular to the tracks).
Without them they have no bite.
On an icy or frozen pavement it's like ice skating.
I would bet the boys in the tank are playing and having a great time.
There's a reason loggers have corked boots. Same applies to this tank.
# agreedsrm 2023-01-21 06:02
There are different treads for 4x4 versus road only. The 4x4 treads (all metal) really tear things up. The road tread has rubber contact areas for a smoother ride and doesn't tear up the road.

(I'm not armor, I'm former infantry) If you're armor please chime in.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-benefit-between-the-different-tank-track-designs
# GRUNTSWoulf 2023-01-22 03:59
GOD BLESS.
+8 # Light weightKad2866 2023-01-21 03:48
Tank should be heavy enough to help grip? I mean it's loaded down with tampons, maxi pads, birthing table, high heel shoes, drag queen stage, etc
+1 # WhenWoulf 2023-01-21 04:30
I am done laughing, I will cry for the ones in that thing.
+6 # Robert Dziokrddziok 2023-01-21 01:49
Typical of America today. Greed and piss poor quality to maximize profit. Would never happen in Russia as they are serious about what is developed being able to protect their nation.
# Dain BramageGmcclenon 2023-01-21 01:41
Sorry, double post.
+4 # Needs cleatsGmcclenon 2023-01-21 01:41
True, M1A1 abrams tanks have smooth rubber tracks to quiet the sound when running on asphalt but there are available cleats that attach for use in snow and ice: https://www.sfsa.org/tutorials/ice_cleat/default.htm

Most likely NWO.GOV would send them to battle with rubber shoes because…. Well, .gov.
# TranslationWoulf 2023-01-21 02:52
"Morons" in "C&C".
No Weapons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYUyjbsC660
How many "half open eyes" would you have to "look into". To explain this BS. Before they glaze over?
+2 # Easy solution.Billybob207 2023-01-21 01:19
I had a compact track loader with rubber tracks that I used for snow removal. It was basically useless on ice until I put about 600 screw in carbide studs in the tracks. After that I could push a huge pile of snow on icy pavement and concrete. Even uphill.
# Yes, but..paulattahoe 2023-01-21 15:29
What happens when the ice melts and the concrete and asphalt are full of carbide stud grooves? If an operator is good, he will leave enough and snow and ice under the tracks to not mark the surface he's running on. But if he doesn't, the owner uses the damage excuse to not pay you. After 50 years in the snow removal business, I've found many things out the hard way.
+1 # LOOKS LIKE A NON STANDARD TRACK ON THIS THING HALjoe@tittiger.com 2023-01-21 01:14
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That track in the 1st photo does not look like it's got much bite.

A better photo would help.

I bet that they make a variety of tracks for this tank.

The US Military Industrial complex would not miss the opportunity to up-sell a product.

---- OR more possibly--------

This looks like a hard included roadway with ice on it.

Anything less that track spikes, would allow any tank to go up such an incline
+3 # RE: Great. Just Great! Look at what our $$ millions for each tank gets us . . . .Military_Matt 2023-01-21 00:49
Uh... no... that's what happens when you try to go up a smooth concrete surface, with ice on it... there isn't anything to grip, at an insufficient speed (Basic Physics). Russian and Chinese tanks would do the exact same thing, in the exact same circumstances.

This looks like part of one of the winter training courses, where one of the things taught to tank crews is how to gauge the speed needed to climb smooth icy slopes... and deal with loss of traction, while on an incline.

If the ground was anything other than concrete/pavement, with ice, then it or any other MBT (including the horribly underpowered Challenger II) would climb with no issue, even if crawling...
# "Not so fast, my friend" - Lee CorsoMan of the Atom 2023-01-21 04:16
On an inclined plane or ramp, there is a weight component parallel to the ramp with the equation w|| = mg sine (theta). mg is the weight and in US units we are already there. The sine of even a 30 degree angle = 0.500 so that 58 ton tank (1 ton = 2000 pounds of weight) has 29 tons of weight force angling down that ramp! You need a static friction force or 29 tons up the plane just to hold it on the ramp.
# DITTOjoe@tittiger.com 2023-01-21 01:18
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I came to the same conclusion after trying other explanations. Thanks.
# But...Getsum 2023-01-21 00:56
What you're saying does not support the narrative/agenda here. It is better for some to believe that our country and military sucks.
+1 # bob sledtinadetino 2023-01-21 00:42
Why do I get the feeling the Russians are going to make videos of are tanks being used as bob sleds just to show off.
-1 # THE ORIGINAL ROSWELL ALIEN AUTOPSY FILMSpyGuy 2023-01-21 00:29
THE ORIGINAL ROSWELL ALIEN AUTOPSY FILM

https://archive.org/details/the-original-roswell-alien-autopsy-film
+5 # Design flaw?SparkyTaz 2023-01-21 00:21
Nawww...it's hard to drive in high heals....
+1 # WorseWoulf 2023-01-21 03:11
Flip Flops or "Crocks".
+1 # I'm afraid,evolution14 2023-01-21 00:16
that's just physics, right?
+6 # Touchy feelyMANYROUNDS 2023-01-21 00:04
This what happens when you train for tolerance instead of war, sabotage by the perfumed princes.
+4 # Chains?MANYROUNDS 2023-01-20 23:56
Maybe they can get a set at Tractor supply for a hundred bucks. What else is broke dick?
+2 # RE: Chains?jimginny 2023-01-21 02:49
Quoting MANYROUNDS:
Maybe they can get a set at Tractor supply for a hundred bucks. What else is broke dick?



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