May 18: New Jersey Police DECLINE to Enforce Governor's Shut-Down Order

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A police Captain and a Lieutenant from the Bellmawr, New Jersey Police Department UPHELD THEIR OATHS to support the Constitution, and thus DECLINED to "enforce" Governor Phil Murphy's so-called "Order" closing "non-essential" businesses. 

The crowd gathered at a local Gym to protect the owner's right to engage in commerce, CHEERED the police courage.  Video Below:

This was a crucial moment for many New Jerseyans.  The police are finally waking up to the reality that a Governor does not have the legal power to "define" what is an "essential" or a "non-essential" business. Only a Legislature can "define" things in law.

A Governor cannot "impair the obligation of contracts."  Preventing landlords from charging rent or using courts to pursue debts.

A Governor cannot ORDER citizens to stay home without due process of law.

A Governor cannot stop Commerce; people are free to buy, sell, and trade goods and services;  They don't need permission from the governor to do those things.

Thus, there is NO LEGAL BASIS for a Governor to lock-down the citizens of a state (House arrest without due process of law) and in Hal Turner's home state of New Jersey, the police are acting accordingly.

There are limits to what a Governor can do.  Governor Phil Murphy has crossed those lines and gone too far.  His "ORDERS" to shut down citizen activity and business activity carry no legal weight.

Ignore them.

Of course, this is not to say be stupid; protect yourself from the potential disease.  Wear a mask or face covering.  Maybe wear gloves or goggles.  Perhaps keeping a safe distance from others isn't a bad idea.  Freedom is not a suicide pact.  We ARE in a disease outbreak situation.  Exercising our God given freedom is not license to be stupid.  

 

 

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    Thomas N. Kuss II · 5 days ago
    Covert Covid-19 Coronavirus is an Long Term Planned Operation to Insert, "LUCIFERASE DARPA HYDROGEL (CUTS OFF VMAT-2 GOD GENE) NANO TECHNOLOGY (ELECTROMAGNETIC MIND CONTROL) RFID CHIP(S) THAT CHANGE YOUR DNA WHICH MAKES YOU LITERALLY BECOME A CYBORG SLAVE." Worse, "REVELATION 14:9-10 STATES YOU GO TO HELL IF YOU TAKE IT (UNDERSTANDABLE ONCE YOU SHUT DOWN THE GOD GENE)." Pray for the Rapture to Happen Soon and to be Included. Good Luck... Tom
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      · 6 days ago
      Last I knew Newsweek was weak news. Nothing like main stream CNN style corporate controlled alleged news.
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        Mike · 5 days ago
        Tribalism will never get us to the whole truth.

        This isn't Russia gate where they had to make everything up.

        There is enough legitamate bad news about this virus to go around. At least for those willing to see.
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      Mike · 6 days ago
      "We are starting to near 3,000 deceased, a horrifyingly large number," noted the chief epidemiologist at Sweden's public health agency, Anders Tegnell, at a press conference on Wednesday.

      Tegnell, who has been leading the country's COVID-19 response and previously defended the nation's decision not to impose a lockdown, this week admitted he was "not convinced" the unconventional anti-lockdown strategy was the best option to take.

      "I'm not convinced at all - we are constantly thinking about this," Tegnell told Aftonbladet, the Swedish newspaper based in the capital Stockholm.
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        Paul Lambert · 6 days ago
        Not one to start a new conspiracy theory myself, but I keep in mind that the elderly are the most vulnerable to this virus, and in Sweden (when I lived there until 2015), the talk was constantly about how much of a burden old people were in every respect. I can't read minds nor hearts, but I can offer it for what it is worth that if a large number of old Swedes were to die of this disease, God forbid, it would solve a lot of the perceived problems in that country. In short, people from the outside are pointing out to the high death rate in Sweden as a criticism, while that country might not really be all that upset at the fact.

        BTW: Aftonbladet is a blatantly socialist rag and yellow journalism of the worst sort. It is not "the Swedish newspaper" based in Stockholm, it is only one of many. It's popularity is due to its shock value. Even I would buy it from time to time just to see how much lower media could get. It routinely uses four-letter words within its normal articles, and its op-ed pieces support depraved activities, including incest. The only reason that I think a few of you here would like it is because it is anti-Semitic, and even blames Israel for the murder of Olaf Palme, but other than that I can't imagine it would resonate with HTS listeners.
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          Mike · 5 days ago
          My point of posting that was because Sweedens herd immunity strategy has been touted so often, even on here.

          UK tried it as well and they didn't fair well either.

          For me it's just about us having an Honest conversation as opposed to deluding ourselves over bias.
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    Mike · 6 days ago
    Just a minute of talking can launch over 1,000 coronavirus-carrying droplets in the air, says study – NaturalNews.com
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-05-18-minute-of-talking-can-launch-coronavirus-droplets.html
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    Ziglveit B Shtoonk · 6 days ago
    One of your absolute best performances Hal. I'm close to tearing up man.
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      Ziglveit B Shtoonk · 6 days ago
      So Governor Murphy... I gotta ask ya dewd.. Are you gonna stop on your own, or are you gonna have to be stopped..

      Hal, yer f'n killing me man..!!!
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    lisa bankos · 6 days ago
    Let's talk to me about what they're saying is it the same thing that they do to our children with 72 vaccines for child right now had my age I don't even have half that I wish I never gave my kids half the vaccine my grandson is 4 yeah he gets a little cold when he's all right my father had cancer I put them on greens and queens guess what his body started rejuvenating take all the big pharma the pills the radiation that chemo the shots is it really good for your body now let's talk about my question with the cov19 I ha I have RN that I've told me they covered things up where are masks keep killing your immunity so again my question actually I don't even think I asked it. We all know as people how to defend our rights protect our children and families and we will always stand up for our rights so my question would have been what does everybody think of our president right now I want to think he's here for us and he's just playing a game but the elite any thoughts?
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      Suzhouchen · 5 days ago
      I share your concern. I have noticed some things lately myself. The vaccine czar is a prime example. He is a square peg trying to be placed into a round hole. What is he doing there? 90% of the elite are totally out of touch with mainstream population. So if we get a crumb now and then I consider it a blessing

      As a born again Christian, everything that is happening must be viewed through scripture to have an understanding which holds value. The only truism is Christ. As we watch the world stage all we can really do is to take what we see to the Word of God and see what God says about such things. Following God will require a deep relationship with Him where you can hear his voice and heed his direction. No matter what transpires on the world stage, Psalm 91 tells us what transpires on God's. Though it rains on the just and the unjust alike, God sees his children through to the other side.

      Trump has been a champion for Americans and we herald him as such. However, I noticed some changes recently which makes me wonder what exactly is going on. The objective is a one world government, and while they were once secretive regarding their efforts to achieve this, now they are in your face with it. They are not hiding anything anymore. Which takes us closer to Luke 21:36.

      Stay awake, sober and close to God, no matter what happens--God will reveal the truth and the direction.
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      · 6 days ago
      In the Bible it is referred to as "pharmakeia." (Lexicon :: Strong's G5331 - pharmakeia) (Pharmacy) (Pharmaceutical)
      the use or the administering of drugs
      poisoning
      sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it
      metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry
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    Kyle in PA · 6 days ago
    Awesome broadcast Hal! Thanks!!!!
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    Lil'Birdie · 6 days ago
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PN-MjUC4f9k
    Just a very sweet short video to remind you what really matters in life.
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    · 6 days ago
    ••• When is a street light NOT a street light? Interesting video. You be the judge.
    5G LED WEAPON SYSTEM DEPLOYED ON THE STREETS OF THE UK
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWzIh1OOa8Y&t=9s
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    Dan Keys · 6 days ago
    and the stock market shot up today....
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    Suzhouchen · 6 days ago
    This round of Certificate Of Vaccine ID 19 did not work, but they will plant another round and it will be far far worse than this one. They will shut down everything with this next round and massive amounts of people will die the next time. They are not done. They want a New World Order, a one world government and will stop at nothing to get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImaZf7iBNmM&t=1990s
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      · 6 days ago
      The first thing this guy does is to start off with Gematria. An alphanumeric code of assigning a numerical value to a name, word or phrase based on its letters. Gematria was brought forth from the ancient Caininite Babylonian Mystery Religion and used by the Jewish Kabbalists. This is nothing but Jewish mysticism and sold to the church as a legitimate prophetic calculating mechanism. It is evil depiction.

      Then I noticed his chart on the wall with graph depicting a time frame of events that included what is termed a "pre-tribulation rapture." There is the second red flag as this concept was "invented" by John Nelson Darby who seems to have a connection with famed Satanist Aleister Crowley, and made popular by
      Cyrus I. Scofield and the printing of his Bible version. Scofield was backed by the Rothschild of England. (that's a whole different story there)

      The "pre-tribulation rapture" is nothing more than a deceptive cult and was never taught by the church up until then.

      I dared not watch any more of that video as it took years of study to get that satanic deception out of my mind and heart. I would run from that guy as fast as I could.

      2 TIMOTHY 4:3 For the time is coming when men will not tolerate wholesome teaching. They will want something to tickle their own fancies, and they will collect teachers who will pander to their own desires.
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        Suzhouchen · 5 days ago
        Gematria goes back over thousands of years. Gematria has been used by God to bring the Jewish people to a better understanding of their Messiah through the parallels in scripture. It is analogous in hermeneutics and even in exercising exegesis. For those who do not know what kabbalah is, it; Kabbalah is what is believed to be the secret wisdom of the mystics. Technical explanation is those books of the Hebrew scriptures contained in the Prophets and the Writings, as well as the corpus of oral law. You will find it in the Midrash ( an old commentary of Hebrew scripture)

        The term mystics is not to be mistaken for the cult or the occult. The mystics were termed so due to their belief that direct knowledge of God, spiritual truth, or ultimate reality can be attained through subjective experience (as intuition or insight). The mystics go back to the vision of the throne in Ez. The mystics were heavily focused on knowing God, understanding creation and experiencing supernatural connections with the Divine. A lot like the Christian does only much more intense. They are not evil, but they have a lot of scriptural understanding and revelation that theologians have adopted over the years. Gematria is a part of it and remarkably accurate. Never put God in a box.

        Those who study corporate eschatology utilize Gematria, it is an astounding tool.


        The rapture (from Lat. rapio “seize, carry away”) is to be the eschatological event in which Christians still living on the earth will be “caught up together with them [deceased Christians who have been resurrected] in the clouds to meet the Lord [Christ] in the air” (1 Thess. 4:17)
        The rapture is accepted by the majority of major theologians throughout the world. The debate concerning it lies in the timing.

        The timing of the rapture is believed to be during Rosh Hashana, yet nobody knows the hour or the day. It could be pre or mid tribulation. Luke 21:36 tells us to pray always that we are found worthy to escape (be raptured) the things to come. So you can either go through the tribulation or you can escape it evidenced by Luke 21:36. Those who endure the Tribulation will be those left behind. Those who are removed during the rapture are believed to be those that Micah defines in the Book of Remembrance.

        The tribulation is when God pours out his wrath upon the remaining world. His wrath is never poured out upon his children.


        I'm not an apologist, so i am not here to debate or argue things with you. I teach theology and counsel using scripture having my Bachelors of Theology and working on my Masters. But your comments regarding the video, gematria and the rapture are erroneous. You appear to be a layman with a variety of religious influence.


        In this world it is not necessary that we agree on all things. So if you do not like my posts, that is fine. Just ignore them and move on. Again, i'm not an apologist, so I'm going to debate you. I know what scripture says, the mans video is well worth watching to me simply because of how he ties in 5G and Covid 19. I found it fascinating as he actually confirmed things I already knew.
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          · 5 days ago
          And you are brainwashed rapture cultist. And you are a lier "Gematria has been "used by God"" that statement is completely un-scriptural. Gematria was brought forth from the ancient Caininite Babylonian Mystery Religion and used by the Jewish Kabbalists. This is nothing but Jewish mysticism. You are a deceiver and a worker of iniquity.
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            Suzhouchen · 5 days ago
            I'm sorry you are not well versed in Ecclesiology, or our current Christian leaders and our Christian fathers in doctrine. The rapture was mentioned thousands of years ago. The text "caught up" in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, in Greek is harpazo. It means to "SEIZE" to "PLUCK BY FORCE" to "CARRY AWAY BY FORCE" to "SNATCH OUT". The Latin term rapio, which means to “snatch away” or “carry off,” is the source of the English word we use which is "RAPTURE".

            The rapture is a time when the church is 'SNATCHED AWAY SUDDENLY, SEIZED" this is quite a contrast to when Christ comes back at the time of the resurrection. The church will not be "SUDDENLY SNATCHED AWAY OR SEIZED" at that time. But at the time of the rapture Christ will come and SEIZE his church suddenly and SNATCH it away. Pre or Mid Trib, it will be a glorious day.
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              · 5 days ago
              There is only one "second" coming and it's after Armageddon . This is when the body of Christ is taken away. There is no Pre, there is no Mid, there is no secret about His return.

              "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. Matthew 24:26 (KJV)
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              · 5 days ago
              Ecclesiology is the last thing I want and your so called "current Christian leaders" have sold their souls to the Jewish Zionist and have joined the Synagogue of Satan.
              The pre-trib is a distortion of the text and a lie. (sorry Noah and Joseph you guys didn't qualify)

              “Word-based numerology began in around 800 BC in Mesopotamia.
              Israelites acquired this practice during their 586 BC captivity in Babylon.

              Hebrew gematria became popular in 100 BC, yet soon grew in complexity. And naturally it became a indispensable tool of Jewish mystic kabbalists.

              The Mesopotamian's also gave numbers to all the “gods” related to the Assyrian Tree of Life. (gods plural)

              Why haven’t many heard about this? Who controls the media and the state run school system?
              Rev. 3:9I “...will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

              This may assist you:
              The Synagogue of Satan: The Secret History of Jewish World Domination (Paperback) By Andrew Carrington Hitchcock, Texe Marrs (Hard to Fin
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                Suzhouchen · 4 days ago
                1 Cor. 12:21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
                Ecclesiology is the study of the church way back to Acts. Your rebellion against God's word is the reason you are so messed up in your theology. You cannot say you have no need of the church, because Gods says you do in Heb 10:25. Those who bless Israel will be blessed by God and those who curse Israel will be cursed by God. Gen 12:3 & Num 24:9

                So you keep on cursing the Jews, and see how much more your life gets messed up. You bring disaster into your life when you curse your own life through your rebellion and disobedience. This is scriptural. I bless Israel always.

                Your data is erroneous and your attitude is one of rebellion which is a Jezebel spirit. Read what happened to Jezebel.

                You are right about one thing though. There is only one second coming. But there is also a rapture.

                During the rapture which takes place at the timing of Rosh Hashanna a two day high holy day festival, Jesus does not return to earth and that is where your confusions enters in. During the rapture he "seizes" suddenly and "snatches" "Harpazo" his church out. Then once the church is removed, the tribulation which is a time of Gods wrath is poured out.

                You cannot explain Luke 21:36 when it comes to the rapture or Rom 5:9 when it comes to the Tribulation. The Tribulation is the Great and Terrible Day of The Lord Zep 1: 14-18 It is a time when God pours out his wrath upon the wicked. WHERE IS THE CHURCH because the church is gone. If you study Revelation it will tell you where the church is during the tribulation.

                Your greatest problem may be your pride, the hardness of your heart and stiffness of your neck. You cannot receive because your pride will not permit you to do so. God warns about pride.

                2 Thessalonians 3:6 tells me to abandon this conversation. So I'm going to wipe the dust from my feet as they say and do so.

                In the future instead of harassing my every post, just ignore them and choose not to comment and I will not comment on yours. As we go our separate ways it will be the best for both of us, those on the thread and for Hal.

                Just let it go. Good bye.
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      Khara Noffsinger · 6 days ago
      This was just a test for us to get used to the protocol. I totally agree with you. Second round will be really bad..bioengineered for the US. And we will have no food in storage, already gone...no TP...No grains..all used up so the livestock will starve. They will add in a sprinkle of weather manipulation and this year’s harvest is gone. The economy will collapse as the insane amount of debt we had just got worse spending it on worthless things...all the bills will be passed to be lined up ready to go...I’m sure an invasion to start WWIII....only the armor of God will be able to protect us.
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        Suzhouchen · 6 days ago
        Prophet Sadar said there is another virus coming this winter and it will make this one look like a picnic at a theme park. Prepare spiritually and physically. Famine is coming.
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          · 6 days ago
          Imagine such a thing. A virus showing up in the winter month. Why that unheard of. Next thing you know there'll be the flu in the winter too.
          WOW. And it took a Prophet to understand all that. Impressive.
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            Suzhouchen · 5 days ago
            Mocking a prophet of God is a dangerous thing to do. You do not know the man nor do you know the prophecy. I would suggest you research this prophetic word from God as it is supported by other prophets of God. It has been confirmed by proven prophets. You have no knowledge of anything and are only making things up as you go. I'm not sure why you feel you must troll me so you can slam every comment I make, but it does show you clearly have a serious issue. Since I do not know you and have never encountered you; the issue is yours entirely.
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              · 5 days ago
              I know who he is and have watched many of his messages. Point is you don't need a prophet to tell you that a virus will come in the winter as such is a normal occurrence in the fall/winter season already. Being we are already experiencing "said virus" it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it would increase in intensity, and possibly mutate in winter.

              A prophet I doubt, more like a watchman on the wall.
              Now you can place another step upon your holly-er then now soap box and proclaim your prideful arrogance.
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                Suzhouchen · 5 days ago
                Again, you have no idea what he said, what John Paul Jackson said and I doubt you know what David Wilkerson or Kim Clement has prophesied. Yet each prophet supports the other in part or in whole. You might want to consider educating yourself on the topic before you denounce it and trivialize it. God gave us prophets, so while you may take the position that "you don't need a prophet" God says otherwise. You would be wise to adhere to the Lord's direction instead of your own.
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                  · 5 days ago
                  I know who those people are and now that's 2 steps upon your holly-er then now soap box and proclaim your prideful arrogance. Very good Candice Magill.
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          Khara Noffsinger · 6 days ago
          I’m unfamiliar with prophet Sadar.....but famine is already here. People just don’t know it yet....ice age farmer gives great videos of the murder of all the livestock and destruction of the produce..as they limit us. As a farmer last year’s harvest was pathetic. And I know the availability for feed is so hard to come by. Power outage too set for this year per the World Economic Forum (Davos). So have a plan to preserve your meat when that happens....The entire plan is online. You just have to read. I follow Celeste Solum on Patreon. She is my angel, who is led by the Holy Spirit and is educating me on so many levels.
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            Suzhouchen · 6 days ago
            I was unaware about the feed issue. I have an AG background but haven't been around it for decades, so I don't follow it. The weather is not cooperating for gardens this year either, so not sure what it will bring
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            Suzhouchen · 6 days ago
            https://youtu.be/KTuM2KBKNUc Sadu Sundar, roflol. I always get his name wrong. I don't usually follow him as I follow Kim Clements prophecies, David Wilkerson, Perry Stone, John Paul Jackson and Rick Joyner and some of those. But this guy has been right about multiple things. His message is interesting and it makes sense as this round of covid did not work. They need something more severe. Famine is not here yet, but it will be, it is coming. People will not have prepared because they did not follow the Lord or the prophets. Some of it is common sense as well. I never heard of Solum but will look her up.
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      · 6 days ago
      That is great news Tom. I wonder how all the socialist in Portland are handling it?
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    Deborah Cresswell · 6 days ago
    "....Of course, this is not to say be stupid; protect yourself from the potential disease. Wear a mask or face covering. Maybe wear gloves or goggles. Perhaps keeping a safe distance from others isn't a bad idea. Freedom is not a suicide pact. We ARE in a disease outbreak situation. Exercising our God given freedom is not license to be stupid...."

    CV19 has a 99% Cure Rate, especially true with HydroxyChloroQuine. 80% never need to see the doctor their symptoms are so mild. CV19 death rate is lower than the seasonal flu.

    And in case people haven't noticed, cold and flu season IS OVER NOW!!! Relax! Enjoy life as before......leave the stupid flimsy good for nothing NON-N95 masks at home! They are worthless.....no protection whatsoever. In fact they are WORSE than wearing nothing, because as you walk around, huffing and puffing, these flimsy masks get filled with warm moisture, making it the perfect breeding ground for CV19 or anything else....AND bonus.....that perfect breeding ground is right over your nose and mouth entry points. So if you WANT to get CV19, wear a NON-N95 mask at all times while you are out!

    Of course, as true all the time, be sure to wash your hands thoroughly as soon as you get home.....and try to avoid touching things in your home until you do. And no, you don't have to shower from head to toe, unless you have been rolling in the sewer or something like that.
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      · 6 days ago
      What did you do, receive an honorary, without qualifying for, Q-Anon medical degree?
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      Scott · 6 days ago
      Cut and paste, cut and paste, cut and paste...I'm Bored
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        · 6 days ago
        I think her coach is Barfko Swill.

        Deborah Cresswell appears to be a TROLL bent on distraction and disinformation.

        And that's all folks.
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      Suzhouchen · 6 days ago
      They have burned TWO plants which produce ingredients for HDQ. There will be another round of deadly virus and it will be far worse.
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    Jeffrey L Ottle · 6 days ago
    Learned last night that the so called 6 foot social distancing thing has nothing to do with a safety precaution associated with the so called virus. It has to do with the spacing necessary for present day tracing and surveillance equipment to be able to pick an individual out of a crowd or from others standing near him or her so as to be readily identifiable. I just have to say what all is being wrapped around so many of our necks right now is absolute total bullshit and evil and it will do nothing but ramp up at an ever increasing rate of velocity. Surrounding ourselves in and with the Lord Jesus Christ sounds like a darned good idea to me.
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    Dan Keys · 6 days ago
    Story made Natl. news on radio, which would lead me to suspect, good news to raise the stock market.......a little sell offs and then back to peon lockdown......In no way do I believe the police Officers are at fault.....Man it is tough going for the Great unwashed like me.....
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    Adam Morrison · 6 days ago
    BOOM....mic drop bitches
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    Paul Lambert · 6 days ago
    ...what I should have added (and what I meant to say) was that the idea of the police refusing an order from a governor anywhere on the continent is unimaginable. Orders are orders. The police in every country I have lived in would cut someone's head off if he were ordered to. I mean that literally.
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      H H · 6 days ago
      Blindly obeying is a problem. User your brain. If someone ordered you to do wrong, it sounds like you'd do it. Is that intelligent.
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        Paul Lambert · 6 days ago
        I am not suggesting that would cut anyone's head off, H H.

        Blind obedience is only one step away from blind belief. The German media tells readers that Trump does everything wrong, and plenty of people believe it. There is a reason after all that I come to HTS.
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      Hal Turner · 6 days ago
      I guess it must be hard for outsiders to grasp the amazing, foundational difference between the United States and literally E V E R Y other country on earth. Here, we proceed from the reality that Nature itself (God) gives individuals freedom and that individuals form governments to serve us. In simpler terms, "power" goes from God, to individuals, who LEND some of it, to government.

      Think about how profound that is: all the power belongs to We the People; we merely LEND government certain, limited, powers to use on our behalf and with our consent.

      Freedom does NOT come from government. It comes from God. I think we're still the ONLY country on earth that operates that way.

      Before we allow anyone to have government power, we put limits on that power via Constitutions - one for each state, and one for the federal government -- and we make each and every public servant SWEAR AN OATH to uphold those Constitutions.

      If they won't swear (or affirm) an oath to the Constitution, they don't get governmental/official power. Period.

      When our public employees swear to uphold the Constitution, it puts that law above their boss. But in certain times, it also creates a terrible conflict between the boss and the employee. The employee can lose their job by refusing to carry out what they believe is an illegal order. But they can refuse nonetheless.

      As the Nuremberg Tribunals established after World War 2, the defense by public officials that they "were just following orders" DOES NOT protect them from punishment by a tribunal. Our public employees are made aware of this, too.

      Finally, and most importantly, American citizens have the right to keep and bear arms. It is that right which protects all the rest.
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        Paul Lambert · 6 days ago
        Yes, you get it exactly, Hal. A typical European who lives in a nominal free country will tell you his country is "free" because his government ***allows*** him to do and say what he wants. The idea that any aspect of human experience, be it speech, assembly, religion etc, is only free when it is outside the jurisdiction of law is totally alien.

        You mention the Second Amendment. Europeans talk about how in America "there is a law allowing everyone to have guns". When I explain that there is no such law, but rather that the constitution merely states that the government cannot pass a law forbidding gun ownership, I get blank stares.

        The mindset is so hard to shake-up. That is why, although some of the fellows on the forum give me grief over it, the best I can hope for is that the powers that be try to be sensible - and so far I have been lucky.
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        Khara Noffsinger · 6 days ago
        This is the time we need people in law enforcement and the military to NOT obey orders. Force injecting vaccines..taking children away....arresting innocent people, etc is not what they signed up for and the only one you should obey without question is God. Now we know how Hitler was able to round up the Jews and dissenting Christians and other peoples..people followed orders and got power hungry....Their duty is to protect the people, not follow New World Order orders.
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    Paul Lambert · 6 days ago
    This is all very surreal for me. Granted that Europe is not America, and the idea of individual rights is not fully understood here, but I must say that all things considered, how this situation has been handled in Berlin has been quite reasonable. Even restaurants are open again (with about a third of the ordinary seating since people need to be spaced apart, but the city has allowed restaurants to set up extra tables on the side-walks and streets where that works).

    And the fellow who serves as the mayor of Berlin is during normal times a socialist jerk with whom I seldom agree, but credit where credit is due: While Americans would find it intolerable in terms of fundamental justice, I find the measures I have to live under in Berlin acceptable given the circumstances.

    I am turning 44 at the end of the month. I am even allowed to have a birthday party and I, who have an entire household that is not infected, can invite all the people within one other household that is not infected over to the house to celebrate.

    Again, I understand that most of you are American and are probably rolling in your revolutionary musket chambers when I say this, but by European standards, Berlin has been very lucky in terms of not having to suffer under draconian regulations.

    Your kith and kin in the British Isles are not fairing so well in this department.
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      · 6 days ago
      Remember that the British people are "subjects," therefor are "subjected" to the dictates of the crown. They are not citizens.
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        Paul Lambert · 6 days ago
        That is not quite how it works, Zombie. Being a subject of the British crown, at least traditionally, afforded a person a great deal of protection from the state. British subjects are also British citizens. Similarly, Australian citizens are British subjects, as are citizens of New Zealand, Canada etc.

        Being a subject of the crown meant that you were under the Queen's protection and, at least in theory, had some recourse in the face of an overbearing state. Today, the role of the crown is largely ceremonial. The crown's power has dwindled as the power of the state has increased.

        In the spirit of the US/Europe divide Hal and I discussed above, I appreciate that for historical reasons, people in the United States are going to be negatively inclined toward monarchy (which is fine - that is your history), but conceptions risk being exaggerated, like the notion that the British people are subjects but not citizens.

        I also appreciate in practice that Britain is not especially free today, especially in the light of this pandemic, and people have been subjected (see what I did there?) to some draconian rules on par with the nonsense going on in Michigan, so being a subject has not offered the citizen the protection that it theoretically should have done. However, keep in mind this is the function of a growing state, not of being a subject of the crown.
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    Salty Dog · 6 days ago
    It’s about time we start seeing some intelligence
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      Salty Dog · 6 days ago
      “Let My People Go”
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        Ziglveit B Shtoonk · 6 days ago
        Emancipate yourself from mental slavery. None but our self can free our minds. -- Uncle Bob
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    TSlinger · 6 days ago
    Bravo...needs to be a GROUNDSWELL across this nation. Stomp the Karen's and Mary's in the process.
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      Paul Lambert · 6 days ago
      I get the Karen metaphor, but Mary? That's a new one. Care to elaborate?
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      Lil'Birdie · 6 days ago
      T,
      Did you watch the video Candice posted a link to below?
      If you haven't you should! Quite the eye opener and you know I don't give recommendations lightly.
      For that matter ANYONE reading this should follow that link & share it with many.
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        Suzhouchen · 6 days ago
        I expect it will get scrubbed but the man is brilliant. I had heard so much about 5G being tied to Covid but what I heard never made sense. But 5G being tied to Covid in this manner makes perfect sense. I had done the same math on the rapture as he did in the video. It was nice to receive so much confirmation on what I already knew as well as revelation on how to put those spare pieces together. I studied eschatology and with my degree in theology, I would say this guy is near 80=100% spot on.
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        TSlinger · 6 days ago
        It's queued...
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          · 6 days ago
          Candice Magill the TROLL
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            TSlinger · 6 days ago
            I strive to be fair to all- thumbs up or down.
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              · 6 days ago
              When you post the same video repeatedly on a single forum page... your a TROLL regardless of thumbs sideways or up their backside.
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          TSlinger · 6 days ago
          Thanks!
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    DD7 · 6 days ago
    Are you ready for this Hal? I called customer service to find out about an appliance delivery, and at the end of the conversation, the foreigner (obviously customer service from another country) asked me 'by authority of the CDC' if anyone in my household had C*V*D- 19!!!! Seriously? Of course I would not consent to giving such personal information & told the m-fer (who was nice by the way) that he shouldn't be asking such questions! This thing has invaded every tiny aspect of American life, and made me realize how much serious trouble we're all in! Now they're afraid to make appliance deliveries in people's homes and are using it to invade our own personal MEDICAL information. This is h3ll on earth as far as I'm concerned. Only the beginning. I can't even begin to understand how anyone will face what's coming without Jesus.