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BREAKING NEWS: TURKEY MAY **VETO** ENTRY OF FINLAND & SWEDEN INTO NATO

Turkish President Recypt Erdogan signals his country may VETO entry of Finland and Sweden into NATO.

Erdogan claims Finland hosts "terrorist" organizations that are against Turkey . . . .

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-1 # F**K turkeyselah 2022-05-14 10:22
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-looks-kazakhstan-form-new-trade-route-bypass-russia
FJB
+2 # RE: BREAKING NEWS: TURKEY MAY **VETO** ENTRY OF FINLAND & SWEDEN INTO NATOmjc 2022-05-13 23:19
Quoting Kad2866:
Turkey shouldnt have been allowed in NATO.
Ergodan wants the return of the Ottoman Empire.
If major war did start I think Turkey will side with Russia and China.
F35s sold to Turkey would have been sold to Russia or China.
If Turkey is NATO why hasn't their S400 abm been sold to US for reverse engineering?


It was pragmatic.
They had the launch coordinates we wanted for the Jupiter missiles.

NATO had money and, at the time, prestige, and the lure of integration into 'Europe' (now....the EU).

It's now just a dysfunctional relationship. They periodically demand $xxxM in exchange for not flooding the EU with xxxM Arab/Islamic immigrants.

There's no provision to vote them 'out' of NATO.
There ARE provisions for them to unilaterally withdraw.

They need to be 'encouraged' to take those.

That just takes political will.
We could make them beg to withdraw from NATO in a year, with that will.
+2 # Sorry but they won't withdraw as they have power thereMan of the Atom 2022-05-14 00:23
Turkey would tell them to "pi** up a rope".
# RE: Sorry but they won't withdraw as they have power theremjc 2022-05-14 01:54
Quoting Man of the Atom:
Turkey would tell them to "pi** up a rope".

Turkey would be a whore on a pole if we told them ....
a) EU membership in 10yrs if you do this,
b) US empties Ercilic, including the nukes in 90 days if you don't do it

But ....we're all gentlemen, and would not do that.....
+3 # ErgodanKad2866 2022-05-13 22:46
Turkey shouldnt have been allowed in NATO.
Ergodan wants the return of the Ottoman Empire.
If major war did start I think Turkey will side with Russia and China.
F35s sold to Turkey would have been sold to Russia or China.
If Turkey is NATO why hasn't their S400 abm been sold to US for reverse engineering?
+2 # You always export products with some limitationsMan of the Atom 2022-05-14 00:24
You save the full enchilada for yourself.
+2 # If we’re not carefulsupporttheblue 2022-05-13 20:21
Russia May take out their aggressions against Eric Snowden.
+4 # Just ignore HarnasHold the door please 2022-05-13 20:10
That's all.
+2 # Harnas is not a Heretic.Doug Brown 2022-05-13 19:52
Harnas hasn't the qualifications
to be legitimately viewed as a heretic.
Although he frequently calls others horrible things,
The name calling only exposes his
Ideological weaknesses.
When he is nice, he can be very nice
This venue does politite, manners, and respect
for others.
Hitting a person over the head
over a theological dispute isn't
the thing to do.
Ever. Quoting Longrider53:
..continue to maneuver. Trouble soon.
+3 # Grain of saltell 2022-05-13 19:38
Take it with a grain of salt, but seeing posts from truckers on Twitter saying that distributors are stopping food shipments due to fuel costs. https://twitter.com/trapperjohn37/status/1524800298560020495?s=21&t=f3noVFJBhAAAdlaYn-2CRQ
+3 # Omnious News, Truly Omnious.Doug Brown 2022-05-13 20:09
People have no idea how much it cost
truckers to put in their fuel tanks.
Now...the revenue obtained from running
the freight has to be more than what it cost to run
the operate the truck.
That's called being 'upside down' when you
pay out in operating expenses more
than you're making.
The companies have no choice but to shutte
their windows.
+7 # Texas newsSrmay72 2022-05-13 19:09
Texas news studio said Russian fleet are leaving black sea???? Why would they be leaving unless they knew somethings going to happen there
-1 # RE: Texas newsForrest Mosby 2022-05-15 12:00
Quoting Srmay72:
Texas news studio said Russian fleet are leaving black sea???? Why would they be leaving unless they knew somethings going to happen there


I havent seen independent confirmation from Hal ir any other reliable sources on this?..One source isnt enough nowadays
+6 # ErdoganTC 2022-05-13 18:51
Erdogan is not as obedient as the other NATO “leaders” which is why the US sponsored a coup to take him out.

The coup did not succeed but it really pissed him off and made him realize he could not trust the bastards at NATO one bit. He knows what happened to ex-US partner Saddam Hussein and his country and has no illusions about the virtues of the West. Turkey has the second most powerful military in NATO but Erdogan knows the bankers still control the economy. He has cards to play but he needs to play them very carefully.

He is not enthusiastic about a global war to destroy Russia and establish US hegemony. He likes the fact that there is more than one center of power, doesn’t mind living with Russia and sees a negotiated settlement as the best solution for Ukraine with Finland staying neutral.

He may be a funny guy but right now it appears he may be the only sane voice in NATO with any power who is saying live and let live.
# RE: BREAKING NEWS: TURKEY MAY **VETO** ENTRY OF FINLAND & SWEDEN INTO NATOmjc 2022-05-13 18:21
Turkey wants their cut.

They understand they essentially have veto powers over adding another NATO member.

Perhaps their demands can be accomodated.

Perhaps it's time to kick them to the curb.
There's no provision for this in the NATO charter.
But they could be persuaded it's in their best interest to 'withdraw' (terms no doubt to differ from their payout from allowing-in Finland/Sweden).

'With friends like these....we don't need enemies."
+8 # More NewsKing Goro 2022-05-13 17:22
Russia today advised its citizens not to go to Britain and announced that it was tightening the conditions for obtaining a Russian visa for the British, presenting these measures in response to the "unfriendly" actions of London.

"Due to the extremely unfriendly course (followed) by Britain towards our country and in order to avoid financial losses and other possible problems, we urge Russian citizens to avoid traveling to the United Kingdom," the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
+3 # Wonder if anyone is tracking Mass Migration back to RussiaOccamsRazor 2022-05-13 18:20
Don't know if returning to Russia or Staying in Russia has less consequences in a nuclear war, only that there are some pretty remote land in Russia that people could escape to vs staying in congested Europe. Wonder if there are any metrics on the amount of people returning to Russia, if the numbers are on the rise, that might indicate something big is happening. Some sort of Russia Tourism Agency to Foreign Countries might have some details on that.
+4 # Re. Returning to RussiaJessiebeaner 2022-05-13 22:14
Russia has essentially everything it needs to be self sufficient. They learned an important lesson several years ago when the US started hitting them with sanctions. They also have shelters for their people in major cities.
Any intelligent Russian would return to Russia now.
Where else would you want to be as that relates to being able to even have a chance at continuing a reasonable life? Certainly NOT Canada or the USA, or South America (unless you lived in rural Chile). Central America is a murdering shithole, as is much of Mexico. Who would ever want to be anywhere near those drug cartels???? Africa???? No thanks. Japan would not allow it. South Korea is a major target. Australia has gone full communist, as hs New Zealand. There is no place that offers even hope of some sort of safe or sufficient life after a nuke war, except Russia perhaps. If a full out nuke war happens we won’t see the sun for years. How do you survive that????
But, these Uber wealthy and powerful bastards will all be safely and warmly tucked in deep under the crust, in their mega cities with everything they will need to survive for many, many years, decades and perhaps generations. They have every capability down here that we have NOW, on the surface. They are NOT AT RISK AND THAT IS WHY THEY PUSH THIS INSANE WAR SHIT. Will 500 million survive?
+3 # Wouldn't be Shocked.Garyhines 2022-05-13 16:36
Hi Hal might be a good thing to veto Finland. Wouldn't be Shocked one bit Hal.
+5 # Russia turns off powerskyward21 2022-05-13 16:01
It just came across my newsfeed that Russia is going to shut off all power supplies to Finland tomorrow.
-1 # Russia turns off USA?SuperSoul1971 2022-05-13 16:34
Here is Today, as we are racing toward it, running past every checkpoint & voice of reason, The American Public simultaneously in the back seat, being taken for the ride, and spectating it with anticipation like it was yet another upcoming 4th of July type celebration, . The SuperSoul alt-media DJ is reporting, appealing, and pleading to an unaware unconcerned public, while we all speed toward the Vanishing Point. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7dtzr
+10 # Turkey...Gulfcaptain 2022-05-13 15:43
Turkey has always been a duplicitous and tricky. Turkey looks out for Turkey above any other Alliance. If Russia offers a better deal than NATO, Turkey will turn on the West and side with Russia. Turkey's comments about Finland and Sweden are bargaining chips to get favors, money or some other gift from the West to sway them away from their Russian leaning tendency as of late. Turkey is not to be trusted.
+13 # RE: Turkey...The Deplorable Renegade 2022-05-13 16:16
Erdogan is notorious for playing both sides against the middle. Never ever trust any Turks.
+7 # AgreedJohnnyinKY 2022-05-13 15:47
Quoting Gulfcaptain:
Turkey has always been a duplicitous and tricky. Turkey looks out for Turkey above any other Alliance. If Russia offers a better deal than NATO, Turkey will turn on the West and side with Russia. Turkey's comments about Finland and Sweden are bargaining chips to get favors, money or some other gift from the West to sway them away from their Russian leaning tendency as of late. Turkey is not to be trusted.


I think your right on target.
-14 # Erdogan claims Finland hosts "terrorist" organizations that are against TurkeyHaarnaś 2022-05-13 15:34
Hey, Johnny Roten, is it also in your "bible"?

Does your bible agree with the Turk that Finland is a terrorist state? Let's hear it for evangelical vox populi!
+6 # Stuff it, you assholeJessiebeaner 2022-05-13 22:20
What the hell is wrong with you?
+4 # I wish…lmschofield44@hotmail.com 2022-05-13 16:41
That Mr. Turner would cancel you. He may be of the same denomination, but he is a gentleman…unlike you. How will our Heavenly Father judge your lack of grace for your fellow believers? Ponder & pray about that, sir.
-12 # RE: I wish…Haarnaś 2022-05-13 19:01
Quoting lmschofield44@hotmail.com:
That Mr. Turner would cancel you. He may be of the same denomination, but he is a gentleman…unlike you. How will our Heavenly Father judge your lack of grace for your fellow believers? Ponder & pray about that, sir.


He should have cancelled you ten times already for thinking thar his site is the old twitter, you bloody Commie Bolshevik! Commies here wherever I turn.
# GodKing Goro 2022-05-13 15:59
I believe in the true and Living God and his Son Jesus Christ. I am not an idol worshiper like you. I do not worship Satan as shown in Fatima like you. At least you can say you are a man if you stand by your many predictions for May 15th.
-8 # Thank you for your polite Unconverted Catholic inquiryHaarnaś 2022-05-13 16:22
Quoting Johnny Rotten:
I believe in the true and Living God and his Son Jesus Christ. I am not an idol worshiper like you. I do not worship Satan as shown in Fatima like you. At least you can say you are a man if you stand by your many predictions for May 15th.

Nobody is actually required to believe in the Fatima revelations, even as a practicing Catholic, but it helps to go there and examine the evidence as I did serval years back. There is no smell of sulfur in Fatime and the events now unfolding in the world are confirming that we are in the Great Chastisement phase of the Fatima revelations. My only earlier reference to May 15 here is that I had revealed earlier has to do with "Total Chaos after 15th of May". This has its bases in Fatima visitation by Most Holy Virgin Mary which started on May 13th 1917 in the darkest days of WWI (did you ever hear of that war?) after months of Europe-wide prayers for peace led on the Holy Rosary by Pope Benedict XV. More elaborate explanation in my earlier response to you!
+2 # █▓▒░ Haarnaś the heretic. ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-05-13 19:25
|

Haarnaś, You have become worse than boring with your repetitive
cultist verbiage and belief structure.

On the day of Pentecost, when Jesus said “It Is Finished”
and He released His spirit from His physical body, that large
curtain was ripped in half that separated the inner
sanctum known as the “Holy Of Holies, from it's outer area.
Only a High priest was allowed to enter that sanctum once
a year and a rope was tied to his ankle to pull him out in
case God struck him down because of impurity in his heart.

Why do I mention this?

Because Jesus did away with the priesthood and made it
possible for the common man to approach the very throne
of God through Himself, our advocate, Jesus Christ, in prayer.

All of your Catholic string of beads, your idolizing the virgin
Mary while attributing to her many titles and several other
aspects that you cling to are irrelevant.

There's a lot more to address about your BS but
I'm not taking the time and space.

The practice of Catholicism is not based in Christianity.
+5 # IdolsKing Goro 2022-05-13 16:38
Keep worshipping your idols and Satan posing as Mary. You pose as an intellectual but you are merely a pagan fool.
-11 # RE: IdolsHaarnaś 2022-05-13 19:10
Quoting Johnny Rotten:
Keep worshipping your idols and Satan posing as Mary. You pose as an intellectual but you are merely a pagan fool.


I am not a poseur, I am NYC-Washington axis intellectual, whether you like it or not. Thank you for pointing it out! As for you, you are another heretic who will be awarded for confusing the Most Holy Virgin Mary, who is full of the Holy Spirit with a Satam. Seventh Circle in Hell, Third Ring for you, a blasphemer!
# █▓▒░ Haarnaś the heretic. ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-05-14 08:15
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To quote the heretic troll idolater haarnaś:
Quote:
I am NYC-Washington axis intellectual

That plus $1 will get you coffee at McDonalds.
Take your female deity worship and jump off
a cliff.

The heretic troll idolater haarnaś uses the made up word "Satam."

Everyone run a search on the word "Satam" and you get this... "Characters / Sonic the Hedgehog (SatAM)"

Looks like the heretic troll idolater haarnaś
enjoys Hedgehog cartoons.




+3 # █▓▒░ RUSSIAN DUMA: POLAND IN LINE FOR DENAZIFICATION ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-05-13 15:15
|

The State Duma proposed to put Poland in line
for denazification.
(RIA)

The statements of the Polish leadership about
Russia "as a cancerous tumor" and about the
indemnity to Ukraine encourage the Russian
Federation to "put it in line for denazification."

https://ria.ru/20220513/polsha-1788409643.html
+4 # The NeoCons in US Weaved A Sticky WebOccamsRazor 2022-05-13 15:24
George Bush after 911 said something very dangerous: "We will not Differentiate between the Terrorists nor the Nations that Harbor Them". As if this statement was enough to invade other lands and demilitarize them, the Taliban, Al-CIA-da. Russia seems to be cloning a different flavor of the same Rhetoric to justify its actions. It Appears "The Chickens have come home to roost."
+1 # GoodForrest Mosby 2022-05-13 15:09
For Turkey
+3 # France MacronJohnnyinKY 2022-05-13 14:52
Any updates and Macrons sudden change of tune ? What happened to the big meeting that was going to decide this? Bad intel ?

Steve Quayle has always said France and Germany would turn against us when it comes to actual ww3. When the gas oil and electricity stops flowing they will have a change of heart. I’m beginning to agree with Steve on that. The signs are showing. What a perfect way to lure the USA Uk empire into a trap
+2 # They are buying gas and oil in rublesJessiebeaner 2022-05-13 22:26
Read an article about it today
+4 # Russia to halt electricity supplies to FinlandJ_Grayman 2022-05-13 14:38
"Power deliveries will be suspended due to the lack of payment, the grid operator says"

"Russian utility Inter RAO will stop exporting electricity to Finland from May 14, Finland’s grid company said on Friday.

According to Fingrid, citing Inter RAO, the trade in electricity imported from Russia will be suspended due to difficulties in receiving payments for electricity sold on the market."

https://www.rt.com/business/555446-russia-electricity-supplies-finland/
+7 # RE: BREAKING NEWS: TURKEY MAY **VETO** ENTRY OF FINLAND & SWEDEN INTO NATOBeenThere 2022-05-13 14:34
Turkey is blackmailing NATO, LOL....

They want something from the West! Mark my words, they will vote in favor of Finland just as soon as they get whatever it is that they want!
+12 # Has Erdogan found reason while all around have none?Lexie 2022-05-13 13:59
Lets hope so !
Putin needs to shut down these nutters asap ..Ukraine reportedly trafficking children..pedophiles buying little girls at a 150 k per child ...Ukraine needs to be singed off the face of the earth quite honestly.
+8 # MAYBEDean Easterling 2022-05-13 13:48
MAYBE JUST MAYBE, Turkey really does not want to see and experience a third world war.
# RE: MAYBEBeenThere 2022-05-14 09:10
Turkey is currently in dispute with neighboring Greece, both NATO countries. Greece has halted all military aid to Ukraine stating that they need to keep all military supplies in country to deal with ongoing security concerns - i.e., Turkey!

Maybe Putin has told Turkey he would side with them in exchange for blocking Finland's request to join NATO.

Just so much going on globally, makes one's head spin trying to keep up!
# The Feet of Iron and Clay Will Not MixOccamsRazor 2022-05-13 13:44
Daniel talked about the Progression of World Powers from Babylon (Head of Gold) down to the Feet of Iron and Clay. In the last days there would be an Order consisting of a National / Politically / Ethnically Divided world.




Daniel 2:43
New Living Translation
This mixture of iron and clay also shows that these kingdoms will try to strengthen themselves by forming alliances with each other through intermarriage. But they will not hold together, just as iron and clay do not mix.

This latest incident with Erdogan shows how they can't stick together. Ukraine can partner with the NAZI's but Erdogan can team up with *Finland*? Wow!
-11 # RE: The Feet of Iron and Clay Will Not MixHaarnaś 2022-05-13 14:39
Quoting OccamsRazor:
Daniel talked about the Progression of World Powers from Babylon (Head of Gold).....


More citations from the Bible For The Deluded version for heretics!
+4 # How does your translation render the passage?OccamsRazor 2022-05-13 15:08
Is your preferred Bible a Version of the Bible or a Translation? Did you bother looking it up?
https://www.studylight.org/interlinear-study-bible/greek/daniel/2-43.html
# RE: The Feet of Iron and Clay Will Not MixRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-05-13 14:36
Rome is the kingdom of iron and clay, it just never went away:

Roman Catholic Church, Holy Roman Empire, Warsaw Pact, NATO, EU...
# Superpowers vs WorldPowersOccamsRazor 2022-05-13 15:15
Agree that there hasn't been a World Empire since Rome. We have Super Powers, US, Great Britain, Russia, China but no World Power now. It's a conglomerate of Nations, like NATO, 7, G10 that control areas and economies.
+6 # Weekend meetingKing Goro 2022-05-13 13:39
There will be a weekend meeting in Berlin between Finland/Sweden/Turkey. Turkey is probably just looking for a payoff amid their crumbling economy. We know the Bible says Turkey will eventually join Russia in an attack on Israel.
-10 # RE: Weekend meetingHaarnaś 2022-05-13 14:37
Quoting Johnny Rotten:
Bible says Turkey will eventually join Russia in an attack on Israel.


You are right, it does say that actually. It is all there in the Bible For The Deluded version for heretics!
+4 # HeyKing Goro 2022-05-13 14:43
Hey you stupid piece of garbage, are you going to take ownership for your incorrect Satanic prediction for May 15 when nothing happens? Thought not you punk piece of shit.
+3 # Lighten UpDoug Brown 2022-05-13 20:41
Poor Hsrnas is functionally biblically
Illiterate. He treasurers his Catholic
idioms.
But its apparent he does not
know scripture.
DONT EGG HIM ON.
+3 # Your RightKing Goro 2022-05-13 20:58
Yes, I over reacted. You are correct.
-8 # Nothing is written in stoneHaarnaś 2022-05-13 15:28
Quoting Johnny Rotten:
Hey you stupid piece of garbage, are you going to take ownership for your incorrect Satanic prediction for May 15 when nothing happens? Thought not you punk piece of shit.


but, be aware that these remote visionaries and seers are not Satanists like you heretics, but Roman Catholics in Italy, the place that they know is slated for destruction first by the globalists elites. All major Italian cities are already teeming with Africans that have been brought in to annihilates them. All Italian downtown look like Kinshasa. those illegals are just waiting now for a word from the Freemasons, Khazar's lapdogs. Italians see the writing on the wall and know they are next on the chopping block. Nobody has the greater sense of urgency than they.

Roman Catholic Church in Italy and elsewhere has withstood more in 2000 years of its history than all you heretics can imagine, and will outlive all Yee wannabe biblical scholars and smart Alecs like the undereducated Johnny Rotten and other wonders that we can appreciate here on this forum!
+2 # You are a piece of crapJessiebeaner 2022-05-13 22:30
PERIOD!
+1 # NoKing Goro 2022-05-13 15:36
No you filthy idolatry does not interest me. Go worship Satan at Fatima, but be a MAN and stand by your prediction for May 15th. You won't because you are not a man and will not stand by your word.
+6 # The Kings of The East…Longrider53 2022-05-13 13:17
..continue to maneuver. Trouble soon.
+3 # Yep - Revelation 16:12Man of the Atom 2022-05-14 00:39
I have read that Turkey has put dams on the upper reaches of the Euphrates river and if those locks are closed, the lower reaches of the river will dry up! Then an army could march over it.

“And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.”

Also, Revelation chapter 9 - the army of 200 million somehow associated with the angels bound in the river Euphrates. Interesting ...
+6 # RE: BREAKING NEWS: TURKEY MAY **VETO** ENTRY OF FINLAND & SWEDEN INTO NATOLambs Servant 2022-05-13 13:14
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