Britain under a nationwide lockdown

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Prime Minister Boris Johnson told the British people tonight “From this evening, I must give the British people a very simple instruction: You must stay at home.”

Mr. Johnson said in a video posted on Twitter, allowing a few exceptions for shopping, exercising or seeking medical help. Nonessential shops and places of worship closed.

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    SIG NEWS UK · 16 days ago
    So here we are in UK Lockdown....First Day

    WE MUST STAY AT HOME 24/7

    WE MUST ONLY GO OUT FOR ESSENTIAL SHOPPING..WORK...PHARMACIES OR FOR
    HEALTH PURPOSES (A SHORT WALK OR EXERCISE)

    WE CAN ONLY BE IN A GROUP OF NO MORE THAN TWO PEOPLE

    POLICE CAN FINE YOU ON THE SPOT PENALTY FOR BREACHES

    People (Self-employed Builders/contractors) ignoring these rules and the tube(underground) in London is Full with them because the UK Gov has put these rules in place but have failed to provide adequate financial support for the some 5Million UK Self-Employed workers (Contractors. Electricians.Plasterers. Other Trades, Haridressers and a whole host of self-employed professions and occupations)

    UK Gov have looked after Companies and say they are looking after employees by paying 80% of normal employee wages but that is 'hegelian dialectic' problem reaction solution, by paying the employees they are really supporting the Corporations and so when it comes to the self-employed, they aren't corporations so THEY CAN SING FOR THEIR MONEY...

    We'll keep you posted

    SIGNEWS UK
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    gary boyd · 16 days ago
    God’s Cure Accepted and Rejected!

    By Pastor Gary Boyd

    If the Spirit of God is at work in you, He will keep you balanced. He will lead you and guide you and show you what is important and what is not, as well as timing of prophetic things to come. (John 16:13, Amos 3:7)

    We need to look at the three main prophetic entities to get a clear godly picture of where we are and what’s coming. These are the world, the church and Israel.

    There are many things in the scriptures that apply to all three and some things that apply to each one only. The big thing that applies to all three is repentance.

    ■The world needs to repent of its sin against God and His ways. This is called national repentance. We are not talking here of a nation being born again, but a nation returning to the principles that made or make it a nation under God. In other words, it elevates and exalts the word of God.

    This manifests in the legal system, the general morality of the people, and openness of that nation to the gospel and God’s plans for the church and Israel.

    ■The church needs to repent of its complacency, its support of much of the world’s evil, its replacement theology and anti-Semitism. It needs to repent of being lukewarm and tolerant of sin and evil.

    Most are not aware that God allowed the first two temples in Jerusalem to be destroyed because of the sin amongst His people. That speaks to the church as well as to Israel.

    It’s good news to see that much of the church in the eastern nations is thriving and growing.

    ■It goes without saying that Israel needs to repent of its rejection of Messiah and its sin so that it can fulfil its calling.

    Is it God or the devil that is doing all these crazy things now like covid19, locusts, upheavals in the earth and the like?

    In the Old Covenant God did many of these things directly. Under the New Covenant and the age of Grace, He is not doing these things directly, in the sense that He sits pushing buttons for this or that to happen. But He is involved in that He allows Satan to bring these calamities to the world.

    He has given us spiritual weapons, armour and the word to protect us and defeat our enemy.

    But we must be aware of one giant, all important factor. The grace of God has a time stamp on it.

    Genesis 6:3 “My Spirit will not strive with man forever...”

    We are now in the forerunner period leading up to the tribulation. We are in the transition period. Many of the characteristics are starting to show up now.

    Don’t lose sight of the fact that the biggest revival the world will ever see, will be in the tribulation period, as great masses get saved and untold millions of counterfeit Christians drop their counterfeit status in a flash!

    The wrath of God is reserved for the wicked of the world and not the church.

    So the real big cause of all the troubles as well as those that are coming, is the sin, rebellion and wickedness of the world, Israel and some aspects of the western church.

    ►Repentance is the answer! If you have not done so, please view the video clip by Rabbi Jonathan Cahn entitled “The Return” It is most important. (I will have a lot more to say on it as we go forward.)

    The sin in the nations, in Israel, and in many cases, supported by some of the church is manifest in rebellion to God, as seen in – ●homosexuality, ●abolition of the capital punishment, and the ●mass murder of the unborn. (Genesis 9:6, Romans 1:26, Isaiah 60:12 Jeremiah 1:5 Exodus 21:22-25 Leviticus 20:2-5 Proverbs 6:17)

    All three of the sins above are designed to bring down a nation under God.

    Do you know that you can repent and stand in the gap for others who are evil? It may not change them right away, but it does something in the spirit realm to clear the way.

    Job 22:30 “He will deliver one who is not innocent; he will be delivered by the purity of your hands.”

    There is supernatural power and strength emanating from holiness! Repentance is an act of humility, which destroys pride, which then leads to holiness, which clears your spiritual eyesight. Unholiness blinds you – always!

    The tragic opposites:

    Repentance is healthy. It keeps you clean and holy. It removes curses and brings blessing. It relieves stress and makes you smile – forever. (Psalm 24:4, Psalm 26:6, Job 17:9)

    There are too many benefits of repentance to mention. The cure for all of the world’s problems is repentance, but tragically, the satanic stubbornness, deception, blindness and wickedness of some will continue to set their will against God, to their own detriment.

    ►Jeremiah 6:10-19 “Stand in the ways and see, and ask for the old paths, where the good way is and walk in it; then you will find rest for your souls. But they said, ‘We will not walk in it.’ Also I set a watchman over you saying, ‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’ But they said, ‘We will not listen.’ Therefore, hear you nations and know O congregations, hear O earth! Behold I will certainly bring calamity on this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not heeded My words.”

    The verse below is the opposite of the verse above. It is good to see the two contrasted next to each other.

    ►Deuteronomy 4:30-31 “When you are in distress and all these things come upon you in the latter days, when you turn to the Lord your God and obey His voice, (For the Lord your God is a merciful God), He will not forsake you nor destroy you, nor forget the covenant of your fathers which He swore to them.”

    I hope you see the severity, gravity and appropriateness of these two profound verses above. How well they apply to today’s world!
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    Occams Razor · 17 days ago
    Chinese lost 21 million mobile users, so you can bet that reflects the casualty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfDAcuSMSZo
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    Donald Foreman · 17 days ago
    Read the whole thing worth your time as follows: Have We Still Not Learned To Connect the Dots?
    by Stewart Best

    Have We Still Not Learned To Connect the Dots?

    The near total take-down of America under the guise of the Coronavirus pandemic is well underway and hardly anyone seems to be asking some serious questions as to why? Any nation that would stop all business and shutdown the entire economy over a death count far below that of the simple flu is a mystery – that is unless you have another agenda in mind.

    And what agenda might that be? While the Christian right seems to think that Donald J. Trump is a savior of the nation and a Christian, and whose “spiritual counselor” is a total apostate, was it not Israel that asked for a king instead of God to rule over them? And what happened to them for doing that? Have we not done the same thing? And what do you suppose the end result of that choice will be for America, AKA Mighty Babylon The Great.

    One might want to read Isaiah, Jeremiah and Revelation to see THE CHRISTIANS ARE THE TARGET FOR KILLING. No deep state people are found. NONE, not even mentioned in the Bible, for “evil men wax worse and worse” and who makes war with the saints? It is Jeremiah, Daniel, Isaiah, Jesus and others that say God’s people are rounded up and put in prison camps and antichrist will not let them go. The round-up and the torture and killing of Christians IS MENTIONED. Why do we not believe it? Are we nothing but MILK TOAST BABY CHRISTIANS who choke even on the MILK, let alone the MEAT OF DOCTRINE?

    So why do we need such a LOCKDOWN that our leaders are saying is NOT A LOCKDOWN, nor is it MARTIAL LAW, even though the military has been activated, is now on some streets in America, and yet, we are told NOT TO WORRY, no lockdown, no martial law, NO PROBLEMS, nothing here, move on, please. Reminds me of Alfred E. Neuman and “What? Me Worry? Why are there so many contradictions in all of this? Liars often forget all the lies they tell and invent new ones as they go along.

    Let us not forget the 4th beast of Daniel, that makes war upon the Lord’s people and kills many of them. Let’s not forget the total anti-Christ spirit in America is still alive and well. And let’s not forget how easy it is to fool Christians who are in love with this world and have decided that prophecy is not important. Christians are called “sheep” because sheep are one of the most gullible and stupid of all animals. Always remember that Jesus said the children of Darkness are smarter than the children of light.

    And lets not forget how easy all of this will be to somehow BLAME THE CHRISTIANS for much of this, and how it is the Christians that believe in all of this mambo-jumbo of Bible prophecy and their desire to see the world come to an end. Like everything is Trump's fault can easily be turned into "everything is the Christians fault. How it is going to be done remains to be see, but SOMETHING HAPPENS that makes to world turn in HATRED against the Christians.

    And now we suddenly have “Q” resurfacing, the same “Q” that for years told us about how the DEEP STATE OPERATIVES were all going to be rounded up and sent down to Cuba for “military tribunals” to judge them and then apparently have them done away with. “Next week” we were told for well over 2 and a half years now. Always it was “next week” but it NEVER HAPPENED! And yet now we hear once again the TARGET of all of this is DEEP STATE operatives, and all of these leaders of Deep State, the lawless ones are now suddenly going to be taken down by the Coronavirus and done away with, AND HOW THIS OPERATION MAY TAKE A MONTH OR MORE before its over, and that the so-called “SHELTER IN PLACE” is to “protect us” while this operation is being carried out.

    I would ask if Hillary is in prison? Obama? Any of them? The only ones in prison or indicted were Trump's people, no one else. Why is that? How deep is deep state, and how far down the rabbit hole do we go to pull back the curtain and find the Wizard of Oz? I think his name is Satan, I heard that somewhere, but maybe not.

    What if the LOCKDOWN and GOING DARK in the government taking over all energy and communications is actually to ROUND UP the “enemies of the state, all previously defined as those who love the Bible, prophecy, the constitution, the bill of rights, are against abortion, and who “cling to their Bibles and guns” as antichrist Obama said? There was a book called “The Art of War” written by a Chinese general who said that DIVERSION was the best way to defeat an enemy. What better way to divert the Christians than to claim DEEP STATE IS THE TARGET when in fact, THEY ARE. We all have to wait and see, and we pray that all of this IS NOT NOW, BUT MUCH LATER, DOWN THE ROAD A BIT. But what if it isn’t? I have this awful feeling it IS NOW, not later.

    Why would anyone believe a totally discredited “Q?” Lie to me once, but lie to me 100’s of time and I am still to pay any attention to what is said, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT TOTALLY CONTRADICTS THE BIBLE IN multiple places? And yet, people are falling for it all over again. Why? Most likely FEAR AND DENIAL.

    Is Trump going to lead us into a NEW GOLDEN AGE? Perhaps, but it will not at all be what people think it is, for any golden age is a lie and a delusion, complete with the FALLEN ONES arriving to help mankind out – and of course destroying all those “wicked Christians” who are holding the evolution of humanity back!!

    People should really take a good look at Trump’s suite in TRUMP TOWER and notice how Masonic and occultic it all is. One should take note that he is deeply involved with all the rich and famous and has been for years and years, like George Soros and the Rockerfellers and others. Do you really think they don’t control most of what is going on? If not, Psalm Two is a lie. Deuteronomy 28 and Revelation 18 are lies. Have we forgotten how Trump used the poem about the “silly woman” who took in a snake three times? Or how he told a rally that “they took me in, they took me in?” DO NOT FORGET IT.

    So perhaps we should take a step back and look at the big picture, and for once, maybe we ought to BELIEVE what the Bible teaches us, rather than what we perceive though our eyes and ears. The DEEP STATE is controlled by Satan, you know, that old serpent who deceives the WHOLE EARTH. Remember that is why Jesus Christ told us that the END DAYS within the Matrix Prison would be nothing but lies and deceptions, the apex of the STRONG DELUSION. Satan and God get together to bring about a delusion so powerful that only the truly saved could see through it and not be fooled, just as Jesus exclaimed when He told us that “if it were possible, it would fool even the elect.”

    2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

    10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

    11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    What you are hearing, what you are seeing right now is a DELUSION, A LIE AND A DECEPTION by Deep State EXACTLY as Psalm Two says – so why don’t we believe it? We say, “not now, later, this could not be it – it’s down the road.” Well, one of the reasons is that we are not READY for Jesus Christ to return, and we KNOW IT DEEP WITHIN. So, we don’t WANT HIM TO RETURN all the while saying we can’t wait!!

    It's not NOW, the end is yet DOWN THE ROAD A WAYS, it is never NOW, it is always IN THE FUTURE. But OMEGA POINT for the Church has to come, like it not, ready or not. The only question is. WHEN? The clues are all there, the SIGNS are all there, the CONVERGENCE OF SIGNS is now occurring. Perhaps what is coming will be so horrific to Americans that they will WISH FOR DEATH. I think I read that in Revelation somewhere, I wonder if it is true. Do you suppose? NOT NOW, LATER.

    Therefore, because it is YET FUTURE, we can believe that Trump could not possible MISLEAD ANYONE, especially the Christians, for yet in a little while or “soon” antichrist will ascend, but NOT NOW. Is it possible that Trump himself is totally unaware of his real role? OF COURSE. Is it possible that many of our kings and rulers are not AWARE of their role, that they are dupes in a grand plan of Satan’s? OF COURSE.

    It is like SIN, it is not us, it is our neighbor. Lies, deceptions and delusions are always IN THE FUTURE, not NOW. But what if it Is now? What if we truly are at OMEGA POINT for the Church Age and it is about to close? WHAT IF?

    In one breath we say we cannot wait for the Return, but in the next we cannot accept that it might be NOW! And why is it that people cannot accept that our very elite rulers and leaders do not care at all about humanity, but rather, in spite of all their words, they want to exterminate us? Do you suppose the Georgia Guidestones was erected on 3-22-1980 as a joke? The very same number of the satanic Skull & Bones elite?

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    That millions of dollars were spent on the Guidestones for the fun of it? And why did they engrave the 6.5 million CULLING OF HUMANITY on solid rock? Why did they mock Jesus Christ by saying it was a “Mr. Christianson” who ordered it and paid for it? And why did they mock the 10 commandments of the Lord with their own horrific ten commandments? Clearly MYSTERY OF THE BIBLE was behind the entire operation and their hatred for God and His anointed is now clearly shown!!

    Why is it that we cannot accept PSALM TWO? Why is it that we simply are always looking for a way around what it says, just as Christians are always looking for a way around the command to pick up THEIR OWN CROSS? Clearly, God gave us Psalm Two, and made NO EXCLUSIONS, but told us point blank that ALL OF THE WORLDS RULERS AND AUTHORITIES were involved with NO EXCEPTIONS? Do we dare claim that God is blind and made a mistake here?

    And Psalm Two also tells us that the “Kings and Rulers” would gather together to bring about their ONE WORLD ORDER. Where do they gather together? THE UNITED NATIONS. The United Nation is a communist, antichrist organization that says it wants to rule the entire world. Inasmuch as it is antichrist, then one might suspect that to do that, the CHRISTIANS would have to be REMOVED. Christianity is standing in the way of the next evolutionary jump! It’s in their occult writings, their statements, and yet we cannot accept that for what it really is. NOT NOW, LATER, IN THE FUTURE, BUT NOT NOW.

    More and more folks are now attempting to say NOT NOW, there is much to be “fulfilled” in prophecy so it cannot be NOW, it is YET FAR IN THE FUTURE. Cosmic sign after cosmic sign goes by and events around the world point much more to the period of “soon” in Psalm 90 is about to close. ARE YOU READY? The answer is NO, the Church is NOT READY, and so it is better to be DOWN THE ROAD A WAYS. Perhaps, but maybe Jesus is AT THE DOOR and the age of Grace is about to close with a BIG BANG.

    Remember, Jesus said that His return was "as a snare" as "lightning", that is, with no warning, sudden and at a time no one expected. WOW! But no, it is DOWN THE ROAD, NOT NOW, IT COULD NOT BE NOW. IMPOSSIBLE. I love this world, please don't come now!

    Much like governments who always “kick the can down the road”, and refuse to face major problems, the Church is “kicking the can down the road for any “rapture event” and mocking those whose who do warn that we are close. That denial is now a constant.

    It is possible it is down the road? Of course, but the SIGNS say AT THE DOOR. I would not want to bet we are looking at many more years. The signs are everywhere.

    So, what is all of this about? What is really going on here? CONNECT THE DOTS. The Coronavirus fits the bill for a perfect storm and and as David Icke says, it checks off everything the elite desire to cull the herd, from high death count to economic collapse and a new MARK SYSTEM. From total control of energy to food, to money, to EVERYTHING. It offers an excuse to take away all freedoms from the American people, cancel the Bill of Rights, and install the “Protocols Of the Elders of Zion” New World Order.

    “We (the elite) will tell the masses that we have to suspend all of their rights because of this EMERGENCY” and we will tell them that as soon as the EMERGENCY is OVER, we will go back to normal and give all their rights back. But, of course, we will be lying to them for we have no plans WHATEVER TO GIVE THEM BACK.” IN PARAPHRASE. It is in IRON MOUNTAIN, it is in SILENT WEAPONS FOR QUIET WARS, it is in Deagel.com and their population rollback, it is engraved in STONE, it is on the murals at the Denver Airport, it is in the elite writings for years and years – it is what Bill Gates as been saying for years, and what the plans for this go back so far that NO ONE HAS ANY EXCUSE!!

    Have we forgotten Project Megiddo of the FBI, that warned about Christians who believed the Bible and prophecy as being enemies of the state? Have we forgotten all about the “Fusion Centers” set up all over America and their statements against Christians and those who believe in the constitution and bill of rights? Have we forgotten JADE-HELM and the “round-up” of targeted Americans? Have we forgotten all about the UN Agenda 21/30/50? Have we forgotten all about the multitudes of anti-Christian remarks from OBAMA and his minions? Have we forgotten all about FEMA camps and all of those executive orders, or about Project Garden Plot?

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    Have we forgotten the Rockefeller plans issued in 2010? Or Bill Gates remarks about a “vaccine” to help cure the problem of over-population? Or the Plan For the New American Century? Have we forgotten about the many books, articles, videos and movies of hatred for Jesus Christ that have been written by the elite over the years? Have we forgotten about movies like “Paul” concerning an “alien” who mocks Christians and Christianity, and many other movies like that? Or about how Christians are “holding back” the Orwellian New World Order and the New Age writings that we must round up and kill all Christians to cleanse the planet and advance to the New Golden Age? How much evidence does one need? The answer is that NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE can get through a mind-set that says NOT NOW, LATER, it is DOWN THE ROAD A BIT.

    Have we forgotten what the Book of Revelation says about a LAMB BEAST, posing as Christian, that rises up but speaks as a dragon? That a huge DECEPTION and huge DELUSION comes upon the world and the Church? Have we forgotten what evolution, now in all science and schools, does to the Christian world view and Jesus Christ as Messiah? Have we forgotten all of this? It seems so. Not now, down the road somewhere, perhaps over the rainbow. I feel better, I need my comfort denial, or I won’t sleep well.

    Have any of these powers of the world governments that they granted to themselves in an “emergency” ever be recanted? NO. They are advancing all of this at now breakneck speed, assuming TOTAL POWERS OF TOTAL CONTROL, for they know their time is short. You Christians are in denial, for PHASE ONE of the culling operations as stated by the elite for years is HAPPENING NOW. It does not matter if the “coronavirus” is being blown out of all proportions or not, what matters is GLOBAL GOVERNMENT RESPONSE and it is a GLOBAL LOCKDOWN AND THE REMOVAL OF ALL HUMAN RIGHTS WORLD-WIDE. OPEN YOUR EYES, OPEN YOUR EARS.

    And yet, I am hearing that it is NOT NOW, for it cannot be NOW, it is yet future, as the future always seems to make us feel better, sort of like comfort food. It is no different than the Christians of today saying that “THE SAYINGS OF JESUS CHRIST DO NOT APPLY TO US” but to Israel, and the four gospels belong in the Old Testament and are not for us, they were written for the Jews, and on and on the apostate satanic preachers, teachers, evangelists and “prophetic scholars” go with their lies and deceptions.

    WHAT GOOD IS IT TO KNOW ALL ABOUT THE FUTURE if you are not in truth SAVED? Having rejected everything the Bible tells us as to what TRUE SALVATION IS, the apostates continue in their path to utter ruin and hellfire. The modern Christian theology is a pack of lies generated out of the heart of Satan, and as Jesus says to this modern day apostate Church, “they KNOWEST NOT that they are poor, blind, miserable and naked”, that is, TOTALLY UNSAVED and going to eternal ruin. The warning of “wolves” in sheep’s clothing goes unnoticed. Peter’s warning about the modern-day preachers, teachers and evangelists also goes unnoticed!

    Indeed, was it not the non-existent “Protocols Of the Elders Of Sion” that told us they would infiltrate and destroy Christianity from within? They would infiltrate the seminaries, the pulpits and destroy the faith. THEY HAVE. Mission accomplished. The only thing left is to ROUND UP AND EXTERMINATE THE CHRISTIANS, the Constitutionalists, the Bill of Righters, those that love motherhood and apple pie. KILL THEM ALL. Have you forgotten all of this? Are you going to say NOT NOW, LATER, BUT NOT NOW? But what if it IS NOW? What is the Trump warning of a STORM COMING. A storm for whom? Exactly for who does the bell toll? 10 days of darkness, we are told. The government has just taken over all energy systems in America. America is being nationalized, with nary a whimper from anyone. Communists always nationalize, for there is no such thing as PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, exactly was Agenda 21/30/50 tells you.

    And what about Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars, or Iron Mountain? Are they just a hoax? Are we to believe they are a hoax because the elite say they are? Since when do governments NOT LIE CONSTANTLY TO THEIR CITIZENS? Usually, whatever they say is a lie or a hoax is actually the truth of the matter. After all, it was the CIA, it is said, the coined the phrase "conspiracy theory" so people would not believe it.

    So, what is next? Will Trump pull a rabbit out of the hat and save America? Will he stop the slide down the rabbit hole of total economic collapse? Will he arrest and detain the DEEP STATE OPERATIVES as “Q” claims, or is this lockdown and activation of the military and FEMA to round up for the Christians? What does the Bible tell us about what happens in America? Who is the TARGET? I FOR ONE WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE PSALM TWO. The target is GOD THE FATHER, JESUS CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT. To deny that is to deny your Lord. Why will you not believe all of what is happening now, A GLOBAL PANDEMIC, called that by a GLOBAL UNITED NATIONS, the FORTH BEAST OF DANIEL, and a total GLOBAL SHUTDOWN OF ALL NATIONS, and YET refuse to believe EVERYTHING PROPHECY HAS TOLD YOU?

    Watch the video “Daniel and The Four Beasts”:

    https://www.brighteon.com/040b340f-431c-4a1c-846d-41006cf03a49



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      Paul Lambert · 17 days ago
      Note to Hal: There must be a function to block prolific users of CTRL-C, CTRL-V from repeatedly posting the same invariably TL;DR material in nearly every thread.
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    j Branch · 17 days ago
    All of this reminds me of when the death Angel swept over Egypt and took all the first born.

    Unrelated to that incident we have:
    "Come, my people, enter thou into thy
    chambers, and shut thy doors about thee:
    hide thyself as it were for a little moment,
    until the indignation be overpast." Isaiah 26:20
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      j Branch · 17 days ago
      THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL
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    Grim · 17 days ago
    Somehow, I doubt the locking down of the Muslims in the UK will go any better than it currently is in France. However, I'm sure the authorities will get right on forcing them to comply. Of course, this will be after they get finished monitoring random citizens social media accounts, to make sure they haven't posted anything *hurtful*.
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    Don Hall · 17 days ago
    You Can't Handle The TRUTH.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ct92GUifus
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    jw williams · 17 days ago
    I thought the interstates was supposed to be shut down by today
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    Roberta Bogner · 17 days ago
    Maybe the existence of "asymptomatic carriers" is how they'll justify a mandatory vaccine for all. I dont see how "false positive" and "asymptomatic carrier" is distinguished.
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    Broken Arrow · 17 days ago
    This is what Hal, has been telling us, there has to be absolute population suppression of the virus or we are going to be continually under attack, unless we have a vaccine?
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      Allen Whitfield · 17 days ago
      How can they make an effective vaccine when the virus keeps changing?
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    Jared Passenger · 17 days ago
    Something about the admonition here in the US to the effect that "if you do not have any symptoms, you don't need a test." does not pass the smell test. (pun intended) If this virus creates a situation where people are a-symptomatic for up to 2 weeks, wouldn't they be the ones spreading this around and therefore the ones that we MOST need to identify and isolate? The ones sick will self isolate but the ones spreading the virus around are, with this scheme, not identified or controlled. Am I wrong here??
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      Manly Jamison · 17 days ago
      There aren't enough tests yet, so they are prioritizing them to the people who are already showing severe symptoms.
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        Lil'Birdie · 17 days ago
        Seems I remember reading the best & fastest way to identify if it covid for someone showing symptoms was to do a CT scan.
        Use the tests on people who were exposed.
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          Paul Lambert · 17 days ago
          Medical professionals are afraid to use CT scans in Germany. I found this out several months ago first hand.

          Contrary to popular belief, medical science worldwide is not all on the same page and at the same level of understanding or knowledge from one country to another. There are plenty of taboos and wives' tales particular to each region. This will slow any collaborative global effort to deal with this virus.
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      Roberta Bogner · 17 days ago
      I am recently retired, and used to do molecular testing in a hospital setting. To the best of my memory, ALL kits have an instruction that the test is only valid for those presenting symptoms.
      Maybe they are thinking that if they test millions of symptom-free people, it will validate the test for use in this way. Of course, they'd need to prove that by another method in parallel.
      I dont know what test they are using. There was a story somewhere that the symptom-free people had a much higher viral load (yet another test) than those who were sick. I dont know how they determined that.

      Its my job to be skeptical and analytical, but I just dont have enough information on what method(s) they are using. Once it hits Peoria, maybe I can find out.
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      Judith Rollings · 17 days ago
      Not necessarily wrong, but it isn't feasible to test people without symptoms IN ADDITION to all of those with symptoms. If you don't have symptoms, then no treatment is necessary or possible at this time. Right now there simply aren't enough tests to go around. They must be prioritized to people with symptoms as those are the ones that require some sort of treatment. The reason for all the social isolation and hand washing, etc, is to reduce the amount of viral spread from the asymptomatic carriers.
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      Donald William Wahl Jr · 17 days ago
      It is an incredibly hard thing to calculate. You have the normal flu and cold season mixed with all the concerns with this pandemic. The concerns of managing the health care capacity is realistic. To me the ability to diagnose all spreaders of COVID 19 are essential but managing the hype over this and keeping normal medical availability is not an easy situation to manage.
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        Getsum · 17 days ago
        True, then add in that we're all going to be in contact with this eventually. The only difference is going to be how our body reacts to the virus. Many people are being tested then sent home to "self quarantine"; seems like if it were that important to keep everyone away from the infected, they wouldn't be sending them out of the office to the outside world KNOWING that they are infected and simply HOPING they are going to do as told. Would they treat Ebola the same way? Not at all...and that is what places so much doubt in many of our minds. The actions they do don't match the words they say.
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          Mike · 17 days ago
          True!

          That the thing that's been knawing at me.

          Due to the imbeciles not staying in when quarantined it'll ruin it for the rest of us who would. So when our time comes were screwed.

          We have animal's. Then what?
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    Donald Foreman · 17 days ago
    Thanks Hal Lot happening today!
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    Getsum · 17 days ago
    Well at least the young British women will be safe for a while.
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      Donald Foreman · 17 days ago
      I doubt it.
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        Getsum · 17 days ago
        One can hope. Those grooming gangs they imported are creating havoc on their culture and the police will do nothing to stop it. These poor kids. Repeated rape, kidnapping and murder all OK in the name of being PC and being good hosts to their "guests".
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          Donald Foreman · 17 days ago
          Look at France. Day late and dollar short.