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Is there still any doubt that the US is a combatant in this conflict.

We keep trying to pretend we are not, so that when Russia finally gets sick of us supplying the weapons that are killing their men and strike at us directly... we will pretend to be the victims of Russian aggression.

The Biden admin desperately wants a Pearl Harbor or 9-11 moment that they can rally around.... but the Russians haven't taken the bait so far. Thank God.

I'm afraid, when they do justifiably attack us, it will not be an "incident"... it will be a death blow.

Sorry but as a former aircraft engineer I have to ask. How will Ukrainian pilots fly the F-16's we "donate"? A type rating (aircraft model training) takes months and in war you don't have that time or the people for it. Unless (of course it's) it's a way of sending material in advance of the NATO official involvement of WW3.

I always was suspected that the selling of arms to eastern countries in the last 10-20 years was a way of preparing for a war with Russia. Sending the logistics and weapons in advance is much easier than sending troops with equipment. If it's just the troops it becomes much easier

Quoting Getsum:

would imagine a ground support team to accompany them.

I would imagine there'll be limited service in Ukraine, anything more complex will be carried out elsewhere.

As for nationalities of the pilots, clearly they won't be Ukrainian, they'll be serving members from NATO countries or Israeli, who BTW, are at the heart of this entire provocation.

It takes months or years to train on a given air frame. Pilots have to be included in the transfer, thus NATO involvement will no longer be by proxy.

What is the point of the OSCE?
It offers a forum for political negotiations and decision-making in the fields of early warning, conflict prevention, crisis management and post-conflict rehabilitation, and puts the political will of the participating States into practice through its unique network of field missions.

Note: It is supposed to "prevent conflict" NOT enable it!

Can the F16 carry the B61-12 and 12 NUCLEAR BOMBS? That would be just great: UKe jockeys flying F16's with Nukes, wouldn't it!

America is the AGRESSOR and has been trying to destroy Russia since 1945 with nuclear weapons. See:-

https://www.globalresearch.ca/preemptive-nuclear-war-a-third-world-war-spells-the-end-of-humanity-as-we-know-it/5772695

Enough said!

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(Excerpts I have chosen from the link below.)

“In one day, nuclear war will hit your shores without warning.”

“Without preparing to see destruction on a scale not seen in the history of your
Nation, most will be instantly in hell, awaiting the Day of My Fierce judgment
upon all the ungodly who ever walked this earth.”

“Hell has broadened to receive the multitudes of sinners who will be there in an instant.”

“REPENT oh Nation of sin.”

“America is ‘Babylon the Great’, written by my servant John in the Scriptures.”

https://believeacts2fire.wordpress.com/2017/12/18/12-17-17-this-is-what-the-sovereign-lord-says-america-is-babylon-the-great/

Look up the Club of Rome, The demise of the US was planned in the 70's.

This is all being orchestrated by the enemy who wants your soul. Don't be distracted by the flesh.

This is a Poem from WWI, war is not glorious, it's Satans way of getting us to kill each other. I have lived around the world for years, and met people all over the planet, the enemy lies with each of us.

Majorie Pickthall, ‘Marching Men‘.

Under the level winter sky
I saw a thousand Christs go by.
They sang an idle song and free
As they went up to Calvary…

This is where the Battle is:

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12 KJV

If you don't have a personal relationship with Jesus, you better get one soon. We are the last generation.

And for all of the scoffers, yes you will reject the message, but it's not me you are rejecting, its your creator.

broke within the hour. germany is not going to stop the transfer of tanks to ukraine. that is much BIGGEr news

https://www.brighteon.com/e6a21f8d-2ca2-4dac-942c-9e348822b674

As far as US Air Force fighters go, this is one of the more complicated weapons systems to work on. It has double and triple redundant systems which makes troubleshooting difficult for even experienced technicians. Not to mention, the aircraft has an alternate APU (Auxiliary Power Unit) fuel called Hydrazine which is exceptionally hazardous and requires a containment suit (including breathable air source) to even service or maintain.

The newer fighters are probably even more complex but I am not sure as I was transferred to a heavy aircraft base for my last assignment at RAF Mildenhall in the UK.

You are NOT just going to plop one of these in the Ukraine and expect a mechanic, from ANY other airframe, to be able to quickly or reliably work on it. That said, I would imagine a ground support team to accompany them, along with a training team to instruct the flight and repair of these airframes as well.

That is from my experience anyway...trying to keep the guessing, drama and date setting to a minimum.

You know, kind of like “yo mama wears combat boots” only on a much larger scale. There are lots of reasons but here are a few big ones. And BTW, these reasons also apply to other current large dollar procurement systems like the vaunted M1 Abrams tank.

1. The U.S. Ambassador should have checked with the executives over at General Dynamics before making his attempt at trash talk. This is because the GD executives might not be too excited about risking the reputation of their premier fighter jet on the likes of Ukraine. IF, and I say IF because who knows, the F-16’s mostly unblemished record is suddenly chewed up and spit out by the Russian war machine then nobody in the world is going to want to buy F-16’s anymore, or maintenance packages to go with them, or modernization packages for the older ones, or spare parts. This would have major financial consequences for GD who just happens to be one of the top heavyweights in the military industrial complex as well as huge donors to Congressional campaigns.

2. The U.S. Military doesn’t want to needlessly reveal the true combat capabilities and limitations of the F-16 by going head-to-head with the Russian war machine in true “live or die” situations.

3. By allowing the Russians an opportunity to test their weapon system technologies against the F-16 (like the MIG-31’s phased array radar and its “look down, shoot down” capabilities, the S-400 surface-to-air system, and who knows what types of EW systems) provides them the data needed to adjust their strategies and technologies to make “killing” F-16s easier in future battles. Making it easier for Russians to “kill” F-16s is the absolute last thing the U.S. Military wants for an airframe designed to carry tactical nuclear weapons in a SHTF situation.

Of course, I could be wrong because it seems like all of our “leaders” have gone insane as of late.

You have to train those pilots on western systems in the F16 & also train ground personnel etc! These are very technical & advanced systems. I think the US Air Force says a minimum of 8-10 weeks with western pilots moving to a new airframe so it’s going to take longer migrating Ukrainian pilots. I think those numbers are just to be proficient in handling the jet not deploying weapons. It will be interesting to see this play out if it even does. I don’t think this will be a slam dunk. I think I read an article a ways back that stated for every 1 hour flying these jets need 6-8 hours maintenance on them. Not sure how accurate that is though but it must be close to that.

This is all just to prolong the war so they can launder more money. It’s like watching a staged play.

I’d like to see if Zelenskyy can fly one:)

Like Napoleon, who mobilized nearly all of Europe against the Russian Empire, and Hitler, who occupied the majority of European countries and hurled them at the Soviet Union, the United States has created a coalition of nearly all European member states of NATO and the EU and is using Ukraine to wage a proxy war against Russia with the old aim of finally solving the “Russian question,” like Hitler, who sought a final solution to the “Jewish question.”

He is wrong of course. Our liberal, progressive and Oh so very Woke, tolerant and environmentally conscious leaders of today would obviously never follow in the footsteps of an evil fascist just like they always accuse their political opponents of doing.....

There is no f'n way they can just "transfer" those Jets to the shithole country. The pilots will have to go with them. the F-16 is a complex piece of aircraft and you just don't plop any jackass into one of those.... who the f do they think they are trying to bs???

Ok so who’s gonna fly them?? Doesn’t do a damn bit of good when you don’t have pilots with a decade of training. Hell they don’t even have men left who can run tanks. It’s just target practice for Russia

Our entire moral compass is out of whack.
I am ashamed of our leadership.
People that claim a coup has already taken
place In the USA perhaps speak truth.
We no longer have a moral compass.
To support Nazi's? What dark evil has
befallen us?
Oh, well. Alas, this is Biden's Dark Winter.

NATO will end.

rumor has it that the ghost of ukraines bride just laid 250 eggs that will hatch soon and each one will be capable of flying every plane thats ever been made. what a stroke of luck that is.

It’s time Russia end this all now. A few missles into usa will stop it.