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UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan Strait

China is extremely displeased with the potential trip by USA Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, to Taiwan, and they are openly warning of military action if the Speaker dares to try landing in Taiwan without approval from, and transiting through, Beijing.

Pelosi is reported to have begun her Asia trip yesterday, with stops in various countries.   One potential stop may be into Taiwan.  

In the past, if any high ranking political official from any country, wanted to go to Taiwan, that official asks for permission from Beijing, then travel TO Beijing, and later heads to Taiwan.   This is the way it has always been given that the world has a "one China" policy and that Taiwan is part of China.

Last year, however, U.S. officials began flying directly into Taiwan.   To China, this was like getting a finger stuck in their eye.  It was insulting and demeaning that the island was being treated as if it were its own country, which it is not.

So when it became public knowledge that Speaker Pelosi was planning an Asia trip, with a stop in Taiwan, China decided they'd had enough.

It was made known in China official state media that Beijing will not tolerate direct flights by foreign officials into Taiwan.  The U.S. basically ignored those challenges.

China's "Global Times" newspaper, then began running a series of stories with accompanying editorials making clear a direct flight by Pelosi would not be tolerated.

In response, the Pentagon made known that the US Navy is setting-up concentric circles of "protection" for Pelosi's plane!

Not only does Pelosi plan to enter Taiwan without getting approval from, or transiting through Beijing, now the US military is saying they will provide military protection for here to actually do it!   It's almost as though the U.S. no longer acknowledges that China is its own sovereign country, and it makes the rules.

The Pentagon announcement of military protection for Pelosi's plane caused even more backlash.  Just yesterday, the top Editor of the 'Global Times" which is the mouthpiece of the China Communist Party, said the following:

While some may say "He's just an Editor giving a newspaper opinion" readers must understand that media in China is tightly controlled by the Communist Party.  Absolutely nothing appears in China media unless it is approved by - or speaks for - the Communist Party.  So while the remarks above appear in a newspaper, they are very much the actual positions of the China government.

In addition to that very blunt and direct warning of having Pelosi aircraft FIRED UPON, China's army began moving trainloads of Armor into Fujian Province, which is in mainland China, precisely opposite Taiwan:

 

 Even more ominous, China's Navy announced sudden, unscheduled, LIVE FIRE naval exercises in the Taiwan Strait:

It is therefore clear that China has had quite enough of the US thinking it can do whatever it wants.   There very well may be a serious confrontation over Pelosi's trip . . . if she tries to enter Taiwan.

UPDATE 8:58 AM EDT --

CONFIRMED!  Pelosi has taken off in a US Air Force C-40 aircraft, headed out toward the Pacific Ocean,  as of early Saturday morning:

 

 UPDATE 10:39 AM EDT --

Pelosi's plane made a landing in Hawaii around 9:00 AM EDT:

 

MORE:

"If Pelosi tries to visit Taiwan, the Chinese will respond militarily.

Asked to comment on a recent Financial Times report which suggested Beijing would respond military should the speaker of the House visit Taiwan, China’s government confirmed the contents as true:

'We are seriously prepared,' Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said in regards to the article.

'If the US side is bent on going its own way, China will take strong measures to resolutely respond and counteract. The United States should be held responsible for any serious consequences'” the official added.

We do not know what kind of military response, but at the moment, the American aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan and its strike group, including a guided missile destroyer and a guided missile cruiser, set out from Singapore on Monday heading northeast towards the South China Sea, according to ship-tracking information provided by Beijing-based think tank the South China Sea Strategic Probing Initiative. The US military has not disclosed its final destination, but the route would bring the carrier group to the Taiwan Strait if it continues in the same direction.

The US administration fears that China could introduce a no-fly zone over Taiwan ahead of a possible visit by Speaker of the US House of Representatives

These provocations are a threat to the whole world, as are the provocations to Russia. Yet, the US and its cronies have failed to overthrow Hong Kong, they have failed to create an economic disaster in Xinjiang to destabilize this crossroad on the Belt and Road, and they failed in the Tibet Autonomous Region which is now a thriving region with no abject poverty or slave ownership of serfs and with protected religious and social mores, they failed the Trump trade war, and they will fail in Taiwan. They are failing in Latin America, they are even failing in Panama to safeguard their neoliberal democratic 'free world'.

While failing everywhere, American politicians live in virtual reality and most seriously believe that the world belongs to them..."

 

UPDATE 10:52 AM EDT --

Video has just been sent to me from minutes ago, showing part of the LIVE FIRE drill being conducted by China military off the coastline of Fujian Province, opposite Taiwan:

 

 

UPDATE 10:56 AM EDT --

China has just CLOSED the Taiwan Strait:

 

PLA Helicopters in Fujian Province take-off for "exercises."   A group of Z-10 attack helicopters of the People's Liberation Army of China takes to the range on the shores of the Taiwan Gulf during a large-scale live-fire exercise.

 

UPDATE 11:10 AM EDT --

Taiwan is now deploying Air Defense Missiles, including at Taoyuan International Civil Airport!!!!!

 

UPDATE 1:00 PM EDT --

U.S. Navy vessels in the area of Taiwan have begun their own, unscheduled, LIVE FIRE Exercises.

 

UPDATE 1:30 PM EDT --

Video from  a US Navy source aboard fleet nearing Taiwan.  Look what shows up at 23 seconds into the video . . .

 

UPDATE 2:00 PM EDT 

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UPDATE 2:00 PM EDT --

From early this week, Taiwan has been engaging in actual Civil Defense Drills, with Sirens and evacuations, so people of the island know where to get into shelters when China attacks.

 

UPDATE 3:00 PM EDT --

The Editor of China's "Global Times" has tweeted the official position of China's Communist Party:

"If Pelosi really visits Taiwan as planned, the Tsai Ing-wen authorities are accomplice. The mainland will definitely carry out severe punishment actions on Taiwan at the same time. The unbearable consequences will fall on Tsai authorities."  - 

Hu Xijin 胡锡进
@HuXijin_GT
China state-affiliated media
 

 UPDATE 4:00 PM EDT --

From earlier in the day, video now emerges of China moving a division of the HQ-22 medium-range air defense system of the People's Liberation Army of China toward the coastline of Fujian Province.  (This is a CORRECTION from  previously mis-identified hardware)

 

UPDATE 4:35 PM EDT -- 

China's military is still engaged in LIVE FIRE Exercises in Fujian Province, now firing missiles out to sea:

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 MORE:

The Russian Wikipedia page for Pelosi has been updated to show her death date as 31st July, 2022. 😁

 

UPDATE 4:53 PM EDT --

COVERT INTEL 

The Intel and photo previously shown here has been DELETED for being mis-characterized to me. 

 

UPDATE 5:34 PM EDT --

The map below may be helpful for readers to grasp the potential theater of war in and around Taiwan:

 

Comments   

# “Its All Fun And GamesForrest Mosby 2022-07-31 21:26
Until the flying monkeys arrive”…Or, in this case, drones and gunships…And Hypersonic antiship missiles….

A few years ago, we started sticking Harpoon launchers on everything..now even an Arleigh Burke or one of our frigates can sink a RoRo or a capital warship…..and so can they
-1 # La Choy make Chinois foodPSKYWAY 2022-07-31 13:38
swing American
+4 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan Straitpsampson 2022-07-31 04:54
One has too wonder why the satanic deep state folks are sooo concerned at this time about defending Taiwan.......is there something more there than we the people know. That being said, the history of Taiwan goes back to even before WWII. Starting in the 1930's Japan had invaded China and the civil war that had been going on in China was stopped so both sides could fight Japan. What sides you may ask, well the communist side was set up and funded by the Russian leader Stalin and the person whom was leading the commy's in China was a person name Mao Zedong and he was fighting the nationalist who's name was Chiang Kai Shek who fought for a free china. After WWII we (the USA) abandon the freedom fighters and Mao won the civil war. The nationalist and Shek evacuated tooo...Taiwan. And this has been a sore spot for Communist China ever since. But why now.......is the deep state soo concerned about Taiwan....maybe another ploy to start WWIII...with nukes......remember they want a 70-80% reduction in population of the world...ASAP. Just because the Georgia guide stones are gone doesn't mean they've stopped wanting massive world wide destruction, maybe even more so...
+2 # Little old ladytinadetino 2022-07-31 01:14
hope she changes her mind left Hawaii tonite.
+5 # ThinkSrmay72 2022-07-31 00:32
If what the web is lit up with that the horible video of biden that was totally NOT BIDEN AND AS MANY ARE SAYING THAT HES DEAD? IF AGAIN "IF" HE IS THE DEMS ARE SCREWED AND NP KNOWS AS DO THE REST. What I fear is the antichrist trump will do as the phenix rise from the ashes. Something is not sitting right. I can see THE DEMS AND RINOS, START A "REAL" WAR , NOT THIS BS THING WITH RUSSIA, THEY KNOW EVEN THEY CANT PULL OFF TWO FIXED ELECTION. I FEEL ALL KNOW TIMES UP. IF AMERICANS FINALLY FIGURE OUT HOW SCREWED THEY ACTUALLY ARE, TPTB KNOW SRI LANKA WILL LOOK LIKE A CAKE WALK WHEN MILLIONS OF ARMED ZOMBIES WAKE UP TO THE REAL WORLD. WE WILL SEE A FINAL HAIL MARY FOR DEMS. I DO BELIEVE WE , THE PEASANTS OF THE WORLD ARE BEING SET UP FOR A SAVIOUR TO COME . NOT JESUS. IN REAL WORLD FOREIGN POLICY NOT FAKE PELOSI STUNT WOULD NEVER HAVE EVEN BEEN WISPERED YET MAKE THE WORLD BELIVE THE LIES TO HOLD THE WORLD IN FEAR OF NOT JUST WAR, HELL WAR WOULD BE A CAKE WALK COMPARED TO TOTAL WORLD WIDE DEPRESSION, WHICH BRINGS NO HEAT COMING INTO WINTER, NO FOOD FOR MOST 3RD WORLD NATIONS TO EAT ALL WINTER, FORCLOSURES. THIS HAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT FEEL OF EVIL.
-1 # "Srmay72"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-31 10:59
One Thing I have learnt through hard experience "WHATEVER THE GENERAL PUBLIC BELIEVES IS ALWAYS WRONG BECAUSE THE FACT IS THE POWERS THAT BE KEEP THEM STUPID AND, IN THE DARK." I think you're going to be very unpopular which indicates "YOU MAY BE RIGHT." But not quite the way you have it but close... I firmly believe it highly possible this Sept 28th at 6PM Jerusalem Time "THE RAPTURE OCCURRS!" All those "ACTUALLY FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST ARE CAUGHT UP" which "LEAVES ALMOST ALL OF THE CURRENT CHURCH WORLD EARTH BOUND WHO SHALL PRAISE THEIR SAVIOR AND CHAMPION TO SAVE AMERICA ALONG WITH THE WORLD." This Great Deception shall "CAUSE MANY TO GO TO HELL."
+1 # "With Banted Breath"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-30 23:15
We all await "BRAVE NANCY FLYING A LOAD OF ICE CREAM INTO TAIWAN." There's another name for this "PROPAGANDA SCRIPTED EVENT" called "A LOAD OF SHIT!" China is "NOT GOING TO KILL THEIR COMRADE COMMIE PELOSI." It would be "ABSOLUTELY STUPID" considering "THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY OWNS COMMIE PELOSI AND COMMIE BIDEN THROUGH KICKBACKS EFFECTIVELY CONTROLLING AMERICA." China isn't stupid "THIS IS ANOTHER MOVIE MADE FOR REALLY DUMB DUMBER DUMBEST PEOPLE TRYING TO SET THE BRAVERY STAGE FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS." What else can the Commie Democrats do "AFTER WRECKING THE GLOBAL ECONOMY INCLUDING CHINA TOO WHICH IS CURRENTLY IMPLODING FINANCIALLY."
-2 # BravadoSparkyTaz 2022-07-30 22:50
As China has relentlessly spewed rhetoric warning of military reprisals for action taken against their will, do they have the hutzpah to back up their words with action? .... If not, they will be pushed, tried, and tested even more so. Like Russia, the inevitable is on the horizon thanks to the NeoCons/NeoLiberals and their lust for power, money, and warmongering.
-2 # Interesting....SparkyTaz 2022-07-30 22:41
As there is 10% for the Big Guy from China....Pelosi goes to Taiwan to get matching funds before the inevitable fall of Taipei? I guess her nephew Gavin Newsom may need some start up funds for his elevation to the White house...So, with such a huge expensive military venture to "protect" Pelosi, what price will American taxpayers be on the hook for...? What a waste!!!
-1 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitEddamnit 2022-07-30 22:14
US politicians go to Taiwan all the time.

But Pelosi landing in Hawaii this morning probably explains the flight cancellations over here earlier today.
+2 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitBeenThere 2022-07-30 22:35
The question is, where is Obama? Is he in HI and that is why Pelosi is stopping there - to get marching orders???
+2 # Where in the world of Mrs. Pelosi?Boss 2022-07-30 21:35
Hal,

Any info on where Mrs. Pelosi is? I cannot wish evil upon her even though she seems to be putting the world in danger. You are doing a great job. Prayers to a peaceful end to this situation.
# Look...Gulfcaptain 2022-07-31 00:13
Just look for the black con trails followed by a flock of flying demon monies.
+1 # Serious QuestionJules 2022-07-30 21:34
Does anyone know why Pelosi is hell bent on going to Taiwan? What does she hope to accomplish there?
I seriously don't know what is requiring her physical presence there. I know things are tense between Taiwan and China but a US rep is not helping that.
+7 # START WW3 OVER A DRUNK OLD BATDean Easterling 2022-07-30 20:55
Was wondering if N.P. is even sober enough to walk off the plane wherever it landed?
+13 # DOB389rivka@gmail.com 2022-07-30 21:04
Just saw the best Pelosi meme yet….

**Head shot of the Drunk Old Bat**

Caption….
I DIDN’T SAY I WAS GOING TO TAIWAN —-

I SAID I WAS GOING TO TIE ONE ON!!!
+2 # Refreshments...Gulfcaptain 2022-07-31 00:19
Perhaps the Abraham Lincoln strike group is carting her booze bar and the live fire "exercises" are simply the happy hour fire works. Where is Bob Hope when you need him?
+24 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitStrong718 2022-07-30 20:05
Am I the only person checking for updates every few minutes. I tell you im addicted to this updates lol
+2 # Glued on the FeedOccamsRazor 2022-07-30 21:21
I'm sure the Pelosi Takeoff will be more viewed than the Apollo Mission.
+1 # And...Gulfcaptain 2022-07-31 00:23
And just about as real. NASA admits man has yet to safely cross the Van Allan radiation belt. They say "perhaps one day".
+7 # ME TOODean Easterling 2022-07-30 20:57
Tracking this sight because almost no one else is reporting on the OLD BAT.
+21 # Russian WikipediaBob 2022-07-30 18:46
Only question is the date of 31 July 2022 for China, Russia or USA? Just trying to figure out how soon the invasion begins. The three countries give us 12-16 hours difference.

Just keep praying and prepping like your lives depend on it. They do.

Thanks Hal for being so faithful with your information, even working 7 days a week. We feel like we are all part of a large family. Prayers for all.
+9 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitBowlsarefilling 2022-07-30 18:45
https://presentdangerchina.org/webinar-the-ccps-unrestricted-warfare-and-its-no-limits-partnership-with-putins-russia/

Military people here are saying for 20 years Russia and China doing military drills together. We are in a very serious place having these two communist superpowers collaborating. Key to get oriented to reality.
+6 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitBowlsarefilling 2022-07-30 18:56
I just posted this. No way the two thumbs down even started the webinar. You are either communist assets yourselves or you are cowards and do not have the objectivity and courage to assess data and analysis from Military and intelligence people who are Patriotic and love our nation. You won't even listen to anyone or anything than your own narratives. It's called brainwashed. We must be independent, critical thinkers and analyze all data in this world of unrestricted warfare.
+3 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitJFY 2022-07-30 20:00
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The down votes are almost certainly from the 2 or 3 trolls that have been floating around here ever since Russia entered ukraine on Feb 24.

Many of us have gotten used to that and just counter their input by upvoting their down votes on others' comments.
+4 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitBowlsarefilling 2022-07-30 23:11
Yes. Trolls, of every sort, r everywhere. Just wanted to call it out. Thank u!
+6 # Trollsstandingwave 2022-07-30 20:22
The trolls pounce soon after posts are made. Eventually your (JFY) comment should turn green as did those of Mntgal.
+2 # botsBob 2022-07-30 19:59
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# RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitBowlsarefilling 2022-07-30 19:02
Correction. No one MUST objectively look and listen to all data/info/perspectives. But in this age of lies and propaganda all around, it is wisdom -- for you and your loved ones safety sake.
+11 # The dolphins...Gulfcaptain 2022-07-30 18:33
The dolphins are now singing: "Thanks for all the fish!".

Don't be surprised if numb nut Nancy first lands in China first to receive permission to enter Taiwan. If not, then this whole thing is a pre-planned scene to whip China up for a war that has been planned. The US has been captured already by China. The US who have been running cover for China for years would not make a move like this unless China gave them permission to do so.

War footing to get China's economy out of the dumps and to distract its population from the economic woes and banking theft. A cold war with the US, yup, that would do it.
+9 # Die, Nancy, Die!Loki 2022-07-30 18:27
If war does kick off, I hope Nancy P's the first to die.
+2 # Only the Sea can Swallow the SwampOccamsRazor 2022-07-30 22:05
I never thought I would see a politician go on a Suicide mission unless they thought it might save their reputation somehow.
+6 # Hopetheshaw2000 2022-07-30 18:36
Let's hope it is not quick and painless too. Maybe burning to death in the plane wreckage would be nice.
+11 # Wonder if Nancy’s son has left his Chinese villa yet?StarDawg 2022-07-30 18:24
You know her son works for a Chinese oil company …. He has a villa in China.
+5 # DamnKad2866 2022-07-30 18:08
Was that video showing Pelosi plane bring escorted? B1 leading with F35s and can't tell the others?
Why would B1 lead? Can't carry nukes anymore unless that changed.

Crazy to have war just so drunk, corrupt liberal can visit Taiwan.
Thanks for the updates Hal.
+2 # RE: Damnmjc 2022-07-30 21:00
Quoting Kad2866:
Was that video showing Pelosi plane bring escorted? B1 leading with F35s and can't tell the others?

No. That's a KC-46 tanker, not a C-40 (737).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_KC-46_Pegasus
# PelosiKad2866 2022-07-30 21:31
Quoting mjc:
Quoting Kad2866:
Was that video showing Pelosi plane bring escorted? B1 leading with F35s and can't tell the others?

No. That's a KC-46 tanker, not a C-40 (737).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_KC-46_Pegasus


Thanks for the info. Wonder how many jets will escorted the drunk?
# RE: Pelosimjc 2022-07-30 22:41
Quoting Kad2866:

Thanks for the info. Wonder how many jets will escorted the drunk?


My experience is that the more complicated the scenario, the less likely it can happen/has happened/or will be attempted.

perhaps 50% - 'visit called off due to scheduling conflicts'
perhaps 25% - 'side-trip to beijing, followed by trip to taiwan'
perhaps 12% - turn off the transponder, join the traffic pattern into Taipai, and see how that breaks
perhaps 6% - fly in with transponder on, unscheduled, and see what happens!
perhaps 3% - above....with an escort
perhaps 2% - above....but it includes the B-1 lancer from the above photo op!

remaining 2% - it goes downhill from there...
-2 # how would you know?SuperSoul1971 2022-07-30 19:42
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+5 # NoSpetsnaz7 2022-07-30 18:25
Old video and the f35 is grounded
+1 # RE: Nomjc 2022-07-30 21:07
Quoting Spetsnaz7:
Old video and the f35 is grounded

Air Force F-35s are grounded.

Navy has already completed its inspections. Marine F-35s are 90% inspected (but were not grounded).

https://breakingdefense.com/2022/07/navy-marines-join-air-force-in-grounding-f-35s-for-ejection-seat-inspections/

"Navy has completed F-35 ejection seat inspections; Marines at 90 percent
Earlier on Friday the Air Force announced that the majority of its F-35A jets were grounded to check on the ejection seat issue. ...

According to Olay, the JPO had previously issued an order to inspect all F-35s in a 90 day window. “The Department of the Navy decided to compress the 90-day inspection timeline to having each aircraft inspected prior to its next flight. All inspections are being conducted in an expedited manner with a high priority.”

“U.S. Navy and Marine Corps F-35C Lighting II operations are not impacted by the potential defect in the cartridge activated devices. F-35Cs are not grounded,” he said, adding that “A small number of CADs in F-35Cs were determined to be potentially affected; those CADs were immediately replaced and those aircraft have been returned to operational status.”

“Currently, Marine Corps F-35Bs are not grounded, and over 90 percent of the inspections on Marine Corps ejection seat cartridge actuating devices are now complete.”
# Made in USA...Gulfcaptain 2022-07-31 00:32
The seat ejection works but the canopy is bolted shut.
# RE: Made in USA...mjc 2022-07-31 00:36
Quoting Gulfcaptain:
The seat ejection works but the canopy is bolted shut.

I suppose that would make it hard to take a seat.

'Panic''s over, though.
Lasted 48hrs.
+6 # Thank You!!!!!Pariah Man 2022-07-30 18:08
Thank You for you informative and insightful coverage Hal!!!!!!
+6 # commiesGreg5000 2022-07-30 18:05
The Gov of USA is more commie than the Gov of China.. at least china makes things and sells it for profit.
Commie democrats want Great Reset and to destroy the economy and you with vaxx..

Now Biden and his commie team will get US forces deliberately destroyed which in turn will smash the dollar..

Best thing for Merica now is for civil war against Democrat Commies.

It's your only hope..

Plus... you don't give a shiit about taiwan... they are all chinese there.. you can't even tell them apart from usual chinese... and you don't give a shit about hong kong either.. so start worrying about yourself before US commies get you wrecked...
+5 # RE: commiesJFY 2022-07-30 19:53
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You're absolutely right on everything that you point out.

However you Canadians would do well to also follow suit.

It's not like Turdeau is the paragon of capitalism and the champion of liberty.

Both countries are up to their posteriors in alligators.

Yes, the U.S. has more weight on the international stage, but any break along the globalist/communist/totalitarian/ NWO line would go a long way towards bringing the whole mess down.

Yes, the population of Canada is far smaller, but that is actually a good thing because that means that the Canadian government is also much smaller and could potentially be overrun much easier. Just a thought.
+10 # Updateswundsurfer1 2022-07-30 18:04
Hal, I really like the updates your providing, this is top notch, keep up the good work.
+5 # If any american is to die visiting Taiwanjdonahey1990 2022-07-30 18:02
I am glad it will be Nancy, please do nancy. Please do not not be a trick and still be in the USA. Please go and please do not come back, k thnx.
+4 # RE: If any american is to die visiting Taiwanjoe@tittiger.com 2022-07-30 18:06
If she dies I'll be willing to contribute maybe a dime to getting her bones back to the states, where we could buy her and encourage people to urinate there.
+3 # Nancy Pelosi's deathPioneer 2022-07-30 17:57
I try to get on wikipedia.ru and it is forbidden. That's the message I got.
+1 # The Russian Wikipedia page for Pelosi has been updated to show her death date as 31st July, 2022.donfitz1611 2022-07-30 17:57
I checked he Russian Wikipedia page for Pelosi and there is no such a thing as her death date.
+4 # wikipediatheshaw2000 2022-07-30 18:09
It's likely being re-updated and corrected. I've watched those Wikipedia updating wars happen in realtime.
+2 # Just like the 2020 vote countBurnit 2022-07-30 19:29
I watched 20,000 votes switch from Trump to Biden in real time. So, it must be Dominion software at it again.
+2 # WARlivefreeordie 2022-07-30 17:22
China needs a war to save their economy from collapse, they still have the means to produce their way out of their collapsing economy, they just need the right products, US only consumes poorly manufactured trincketry from the third world.
+6 # Weakcathbad 2022-07-30 17:21
This is what happens when the US is no longer respected in the world. The US IS WEAK both militarily (as in the upper command class) and in the federal government. The clown communists are getting uppity. And Congress wants to take our firearms away... China never was our "friend."
+4 # ChinaKad2866 2022-07-30 18:11
Nixon and America really screwed up with China. Never should have started trading with them but corporate greed won over. We made China rich, we helped build up China Industry and military, bad mistake.
# Too late now!Man of the Atom 2022-07-30 20:19
A missile barrage will destroy all the military bases on Taiwan. They have enough antiship missiles to send the carriers and their escorts into Davy Jones locker.
+5 # Zoom ? FaceTime?389rivka@gmail.com 2022-07-30 17:19
What, they’re not secure enough, she’s gotta risk WWIII to make her point in person??? But she’s only Speaker of the House…all she can do is talk. SMH
+1 # NAFTALoki 2022-07-30 18:30
Democrats and Repubs both signed onto NAFTA, signed into law by Bubba Clinton.
-3 # mprestriction050c21c5b96f94ec215edbf99ca97cd1 2022-07-30 17:05
Hal, mprestriction did not work on the last update
+1 # Bridging Equipment Spotted in Fujianmonkeybreath 2022-07-30 17:03
The Chinese are preparing to bridge the Taiwan strait with pontoons. This is why the strait was closed and this is why it “seems” they don’t have sufficient landing craft. The majority of the pontoons have been prepositioned on the seabed, awaiting deballasting which will cause the sections to float to the surface where they will be linked. The DIA believes this can all be done in less than 12 hours.
+3 # Yes...Gulfcaptain 2022-07-30 18:17
It's the same floating bridge system AOC wanted to span the USA to Hawaii as they kill the airline industry.Just make a bridge! Oh but it may be a bit tricky since the Dems also want to do away with concrete. Oh and it takes coal and energy to make steel so.... good luck with all that.
+3 # Make it out of...Gulfcaptain 2022-07-30 18:19
Make the new bridge out of biodegradable sea weed plastic. That way both you and the bridge can feed the fish.
+2 # RE: Bridging Equipment Spotted in Fujianmjc 2022-07-30 17:43
Quoting monkeybreath:
The Chinese are preparing to bridge the Taiwan strait with pontoons. This is why the strait was closed and this is why it “seems” they don’t have sufficient landing craft. The majority of the pontoons have been prepositioned on the seabed, awaiting deballasting which will cause the sections to float to the surface where they will be linked. The DIA believes this can all be done in less than 12 hours.

LOL. Quite a story.

Meanwhile, the Taiwan straight is 81mi wide at the narrowest point ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Strait ).

https://cimsec.org/navigating-black-ditch-risks-taiwan-strait/
"The China Coastal Current flows southward in the western part of the strait from a maximum strength in winter months, backed by the northeast monsoon, to its weakest point in the summer. On the eastern side of the strait the northward flowing Kuroshio Branch Current is turned back by the north-east monsoon in the winter after exiting the Penghu Channel, but continues the rest of the year, while reaching its maximum strength in the summer. Each year from July to September, an average of six larger (and, thus, named) tropical storms and typhoons impact the strait. Year-round, the strait is known for strong winds, wave swells, and fog"
# RE: Bridging Equipment Spotted in FujianBeenThere 2022-07-30 18:22
mjc, watch the youtube vid (link below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqPFFXR_dDE&t=67s
# RE: Bridging Equipment Spotted in FujianJFY 2022-07-30 19:31
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That's an impressive video.

However, it's one thing to make a pontoon bridge that spans 1.15 kms, and something totally different altogether to build one that's 140 times longer.

Apart from the fact that it would be a piece of cake to disrupt the entire crossing with a couple of well placed torpedoes or a cruise missile.

Maybe even one cruise missile close to one end, and another close to the other and you would have the entire invasion force floating away until the 130 km-long chunk started to break into smaller sections that would then capsize and sink.

IF they could pull it off, it would be an epic feat of engineering... but I don't think so.
# RE: Bridging Equipment Spotted in Fujianmjc 2022-07-31 07:16
Quoting JFY:
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That's an impressive video.

However, it's one thing to make a pontoon bridge that spans 1.15 kms, and something totally different altogether to build one that's 140 times longer.

Hehehe!!!! Details, details.......
# RE: Bridging Equipment Spotted in Fujianmjc 2022-07-30 19:08
Quoting BeenThere:
mjc, watch the youtube vid (link below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqPFFXR_dDE&t=67s

So? It's a km pontoon bridge over a river. That's bread and butter work for Army engineers.

But.... NO! They don't build 80mile long bridges.....much less over blue water (high waves, strong winds, etc).
+3 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitDenny Fischer 2022-07-30 16:57
I think it’s a blow-up Pelosi doll onboard. No way the real Pelosi would be brave/stupid enough to be a target for the Chinese air force.
+5 # The blow up double...Gulfcaptain 2022-07-30 18:22
It's the blow up version that is in charge! She doubles as a vodka decanter.
+13 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitLambs Servant 2022-07-30 16:53
Something else that is odd is that the media reported that Biden tested positive, again, for Covid. He is going to isolate. Could this be a ruse in order to get him to a safe location? Just a thought.
+2 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitIgorbzo 2022-07-30 18:47
That's a covert-op to keep him in the basement
+3 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitForrest Mosby 2022-07-30 17:49
Quoting Lambs Servant:
Something else that is odd is that the media reported that Biden tested positive, again, for Covid. He is going to isolate. Could this be a ruse in order to get him to a safe location? Just a thought.


It would explain a lot
# RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitForrest Mosby 2022-07-30 17:49
Quoting Lambs Servant:
Something else that is odd is that the media reported that Biden tested positive, again, for Covid. He is going to isolate. Could this be a ruse in order to get him to a safe location? Just a thought.


It would explain a lit
+7 # RE: UPDATED 4:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-07-30 17:01
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Back to the basement, Joe!
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+7 # Paxlovid Reboundmonkeybreath 2022-07-30 16:56
A known phenomenon that occurs mostly in those who have been vaxed.
+6 # VaxKad2866 2022-07-30 18:15
My relatives all vaxed keep getting covid. They keep telling me to get the Vax. Delta Covid almost killed me last year but I'm not taking the vaccine. I hopefully have good immunity.
+3 # VAX replyFollowTheeMoreNearly 2022-07-30 18:46
https://www.sgtreport.com/2022/07/uk-government-confirms-the-fully-vaccinated-accounted-for-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-may-2/

Keep protecting your God given DNA, Kad2866!!
+2 # RE: UPDATED 3:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-07-30 16:40
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Chi-nee big on not roosing faish!

Big Trouble In Rit-to China!
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-2 # The Rabid Dogs of War.Garyhines 2022-07-30 16:38
Hi Hal it looks like the Rabid Dogs of War is now in full swing .sitting on a powder keg (Thomo Nuclear) don't worry nothing to worry about just like the horse shit about we're not in a recession. this gov Hal is full of horse shit .Hal let me quote a famous line Hal from a famous movie.by Charlton Heston you know he played Taylor and astronaut.name of the movie is The planet of the Apes .yeah that movie .Hal I'm home and all this time they finally really did it those Maniac's they blew up God Damn you all to Hell .there blow your planet up Hal.
+3 # RE: UPDATED 3:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitDenny Fischer 2022-07-30 16:32
Should I be sad or glad if China shoots down Pelosi?
+3 # Super happyjdonahey1990 2022-07-30 18:04
Leave and do not come back pelosi.
+1 # RE: UPDATED 3:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-07-30 16:44
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Be hilarious if they shove her out - with a backpack:

"Just pull this after you are away from the plane..."
# Shipsnorwatz 2022-07-30 16:06
That looks like the USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) and the other ship would be the USS Tripoli (LHA-7). From what I have been told The Abraham Lincoln is operating off of the Hawaii area as well and has the USS Essex with it.
-8 # Is it Nancy flying in style with an escort of 12 jetsHaarnaś 2022-07-30 15:58
and two bombers in the video?
+1 # what say ye, o omniscient Haarnaś?SuperSoul1971 2022-07-30 19:24
time to play,
"find the Pope in the pizza"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_FEPhkH81c
-1 # █▓▒░ 'Revelation Council' Has Just Been Formed! Pope Now Joins And The Implications Are Biblical! ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-07-30 19:49
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Looks like the Pope is standing right next to the
Luciferian high
mistress, Lynn Forester Rothschild, as the Vatican allows the
Satanic grip to tighten around the Catholic hierarchy.
-3 # I can see that you continue to amuse yourself with off topic ANTIPOSTS!Haarnaś 2022-07-30 22:04
Quoting Palehorse:
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Looks like the Pope is standing right next to the
Luciferian high
mistress, Lynn Forester Rothschild, as the Vatican allows the
Satanic grip to tighten around the Catholic hierarchy.


Bored, nothing better to occupy your noodle with?
# █▓▒░ 'Revelation Council' Has Just Been Formed! Pope Now Joins And The Implications Are Biblical! ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-07-30 23:21
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Don't want to touch that one with a 10 foot pole do ya haarnass, the low life heretic troll idolater that you truly are.
-8 # RE: Is it Nancy flying in style with an escort of 12 jetsHaarnaś 2022-07-30 16:13
Quoting Haarnaś:
and two bombers in the video?


Yes, it is Nancy, smack right in the middle of the pack in her C-40. 14 fighter jets not 12 on second take!
+9 # US Fleet kaputGreg5000 2022-07-30 15:53
US Fleet will be smashed to smithereens without firing a shot..

dollar will collapse...

Biden has covid again and will be hiding..

good luck
+10 # "the island was being treated as if it were its own country, which it is not."joe@tittiger.com 2022-07-30 15:50
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Hal you lost me when you said:
"the island was being treated as if it were its own country, which it is not."

If that is the case then how can you say that the Dombas (Donetsk and Luhansk) are their own country and not part of Ukraine?

Did not the people of Taiwan choose to leave china and do not the people choose and create their governments?
+4 # RE: "the island was being treated as if it were its own country, which it is not."HalTurner 2022-07-30 19:40
No. After World War 2, China was severely weakened by the invasion and occupation by Japan. When the war ended, the Communists saw the weakened national government and moved-in for the kill.

The Commies fought the nationalists to the coastline. The Nationalists fled to the Island of Formosa (now called Taiwan) and set up a government in exile ":Republic of China." The commies took the mainland and called THAT "People's Republic of China.

So those in Taiwan were defeated on the battlefield.

They have acted independent for decades, but the world was in a pickle about what to do with "two Chinas.?"

I support Taiwan being an Independent nation, Have to face reality though, the PRC is now a major power with a major military, major navy, and nukes. So if they want Taiwan, they're gonna simply take it.

There isn't a whole lot anyone can do about it.
+2 # Halstandingwave 2022-07-30 20:40
That is a good summary.

Thinking ahead... After Taiwan. then what? Who will be next? South Korea? Philippines? Japan? Australia?

China has decided to make its stand over a plane ride by an 82-year old corrupt politician. It seems they think the time is right and they are just looking for an excuse.

With so much at stake, how should this be played by the US?
# WWII PsyOpscamoguy 2022-07-30 20:19
Who were the Japs fighting before "we" embargoed them?

Who were the Germans fighting before "we" got involved?

The answer is the same for both.

Who did "we" crush in WWII??

The enemies of "our" friends.
+7 # RE: "the island was being treated as if it were its own country, which it is not."The Deplorable Renegade 2022-07-30 17:12
Joe, I also had a serious problem with Hal's statement about Taiwan. They are officially The Republic Of China and fled to Taiwan when the communists forced them out of the mainland in 1949. That island has been their home ever since.
+16 # No way in hell Nancy is on that planeBooskybobcat 2022-07-30 15:47
this is just a set up to destroy us while Biden etc go and hide with "covid".
+3 # Route change389rivka@gmail.com 2022-07-30 17:13
Normally a nonstop San Francisco to Taiwan…..Nancy’s flight made a brief stopover in Hawaii. Hmmmm
# RE: Route changemjc 2022-07-30 17:56
Quoting 389rivka@gmail.com:
Normally a nonstop San Francisco to Taiwan…..Nancy’s flight made a brief stopover in Hawaii. Hmmmm


The C-40 (737 fuselage) has an unrefueled range of 5000mi. The flight distance from LA to Taiwan is 6888mi.

Commercial direct flights are possible.....but on larger aircraft (747, 777, etc)
# Hmm389rivka@gmail.com 2022-07-30 18:01
Earlier EVA showed her aircraft as a 777….
+1 # RE: Hmmmjc 2022-07-30 19:11
Quoting 389rivka@gmail.com:
Earlier EVA showed her aircraft as a 777….


https://azlyrics.com.az/lyrics/asia-bound-plane-carrying-pelosi-lands-in-hawaii/
"The Boeing C-40 aircraft, carrying Speaker of the US House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi, landed at Honolulu airport in Hawaii."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_C-40_Clipper
"The Boeing C-40 Clipper is a military version of the Boeing 737 Next Generation used to transport cargo and passengers. It is used by the United States Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps.[2] ...
The C-40 combines the Boeing 737-700 fuselage with the strengthened wings and landing gear of the larger and heavier 737-800. It also has auxiliary fuel tanks allowing an unrefueled range of up to 5,000 nautical miles (9,300 km) compared with 3,010 nmi (5,570 km) for the standard 737-700.[3]"
+1 # OK, but…389rivka@gmail.com 2022-07-30 19:37
Thanks for all the details re:aircraft ( I’m retired commercial airline but I’m sure it was helpful for others) but the fact that Nance still had the opportunity to bail in Hawaii is still on the table. I’m curious if standard protocol was changed at her gate in Hawaii….

Oh, and just for the record, a “direct” flight indicates a stop w/o change of planes, which in this case would still allow for Nancy to have deboarded in Hawaii.

We’ll all know soon enough what TPTB have arranged for this little bit of theater.
# RE: OK, but…mjc 2022-07-30 22:18
My experience is that the more complicated the scenario, the less likely it can happen/has happened/or will be attempted.

perhaps 50% - 'visit called off due to scheduling conflicts'
perhaps 25% - 'side-trip to beijing, followed by trip to taiwan'
perhaps 12% - turn off the transponder, join the traffic pattern into Taipai, and see how that breaks
perhaps 6% - fly in with transponder on, unscheduled, and see what happens!
perhaps 3% - above....with an escort
perhaps 2% - above....but it includes the B-1 lancer from the above photo op!

remaining 2% - it goes downhill from there.....
+5 # RE: No way in hell Nancy is on that planeTeknikid 2022-07-30 16:30
Nah, she's not gonna risk her life over this.
-9 # RE: UPDATED 1:30 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitHaarnaś 2022-07-30 15:43
Looks like Nancy will have a chance to use her bathing suit after all, when her Hercules is forced to land in the Pacific
+3 # crushGreg5000 2022-07-30 15:42
commies who run USA want a smack down of US forces for the Great Reset.... to reduce USA to be a lesser world power...

China will crush the US fleet
+3 # BullshitForrest Mosby 2022-07-30 15:37
“Video from a US Navy source aboard fleet nearing Taiwan. Look what shows up at 23 seconds into the video “ .


That video shows TWO Carriers…we only have one at sea…Thats a staged flyover…Some sort of stock footage…..Like I say….Bullshit
+2 # RE: Bullshitmjc 2022-07-30 18:05
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
“Video from a US Navy source aboard fleet nearing Taiwan. Look what shows up at 23 seconds into the video “ .


That video shows TWO Carriers…we only have one at sea…Thats a staged flyover…Some sort of stock footage…..Like I say….Bullshit

The second 'carrier' is LHA-7 (USS-Tripoli). It can operate F-35s.
# RE: Bullshitmjc 2022-07-30 23:26
Quoting mjc:
[quote name="Forrest Mosby"]
That video shows TWO Carriers…we only have one at sea…Thats a staged flyover…Some sort of stock footage…..Like I say….Bullshit


The Reagan strike group is in the South China Sea.
The Lincoln strike group is at sea (Pacific) leading RIMPAC 2022.
The Truman strike group is in the Mediterranean (Turkey), but could transit the Suez canal.

Vinson is in San Diego (was in S China Sea earlier this year).
Eisenhower is on Planned Incremental Availability (Norfolk).

The rest are in overhaul or prepping up for their next patrols.
-5 # Wrong, Nangy's C-40 is in the middle of the packHaarnaś 2022-07-30 16:29
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
“Video from a US Navy source aboard fleet nearing Taiwan. Look what shows up at 23 seconds into the video “ .


That video shows TWO Carriers…we only have one at sea…Thats a staged flyover…Some sort of stock footage…..Like I say….Bullshit


Plus two carrier of course!
-2 # Decoy?OccamsRazor 2022-07-30 16:25
Wonder if this is a Decoy mission? Let China down a false flotilla and rogue squadron and then the Subs open fire?
-1 # RE: Decoy?standingwave 2022-07-30 21:44
Two down-votes for a conjecture?
The trolls got you. They down-vote everything.
+2 # RE: BullshitForrest Mosby 2022-07-30 15:53
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
“Video from a US Navy source aboard fleet nearing Taiwan. Look what shows up at 23 seconds into the video “ .


That video shows TWO Carriers…we only have one at sea…Thats a staged flyover…Some sort of stock footage…..Like I say….Bullshit


Also, Reagan is escorted by a Tico and an Arleigh Burke…and [most probably] by a Fast Attack boat( but they never mention those) and it certainly wouldnt be running on the surface heading into Harms Way…they are so much faster submerged and usually operate 20-50 miles away….Reagan also would be conducting Flight Ops, not with the embarked Air Wing stacked on the deck….Too many details of that just dont add up
# RE: Bullshitmjc 2022-07-30 18:42
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
[quote name="Forrest Mosby"]

Also, Reagan is escorted by a Tico and an Arleigh Burke…and [most probably] by a Fast Attack boat( but they never mention those) and it certainly wouldnt be running on the surface heading into Harms Way…they are so much faster submerged and usually operate 20-50 miles away….Reagan also would be conducting Flight Ops, not with the embarked Air Wing stacked on the deck….Too many details of that just dont add up


This is not and was not presented as a picture of combat operations. And no, the tanker in the second V is not Pelosi's C-40/737 flying overhead.

It's a photo op. The intent is to show the firepower available.

It's a deterrent. Note the nuclear capable B-1 Lancer leading the air wing.
+1 # earliertheshaw2000 2022-07-30 15:42
I think that video is from earlier today before she got to Hawaii. I had seen it earlier on other sites, I think Hal just got mixed up.
-2 # RE: earlierForrest Mosby 2022-07-30 15:49
Quoting theshaw2000:
I think that video is from earlier today before she got to Hawaii. I had seen it earlier on other sites, I think Hal just got mixed up.


We only have one carrier at sea
+1 # RE: earliermjc 2022-07-30 18:27
.Quoting Forrest Mosby:

We only have one carrier at sea

Ummm.....NO. Lincoln is at sea leading RIMPAC 2022. 26 allied nations, 25k personnel participating....


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/photo-san-diego-based-uss-abraham-lincoln-leads-giant-rimpac-fleet/ar-AA106O1J

"The San Diego-based aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln led the RIMPAC fleet in a dramatic photo released Friday by the Navy......It’s the world’s largest military exercise, involving ships and aircraft from 26 allied nations and 25,000 personnel. The exercise began June 29 and will conclude Aug. 4.
# Hawaiitheshaw2000 2022-07-30 15:52
Would stationed at Hawaii be considered at sea? Just asking, admittedly I don't know the location of all our carriers at the moment.
-2 # RE: HawaiiForrest Mosby 2022-07-30 16:01
Quoting theshaw2000:
Would stationed at Hawaii be considered at sea? Just asking, admittedly I don't know the location of all our carriers at the moment.


All are in port in CONUS..Continental US….Nearest is San Diego..Reagan is the most forward deployed we have…
+1 # nottheshaw2000 2022-07-30 16:05
Not according to a site I'm looking at.
https://news.usni.org/2022/07/25/usni-news-fleet-and-marine-tracker-july-25-2022#more-96054
+1 # RE: notmjc 2022-07-30 18:30
Correct.

We only have one carrier at sea
Lincoln is at sea.....in the Pacific.... leading RIMPAC 2022. 26 allied nations, 25k personnel participating....


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/photo-san-diego-based-uss-abraham-lincoln-leads-giant-rimpac-fleet/ar-AA106O1J

"The San Diego-based aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln led the RIMPAC fleet in a dramatic photo released Friday by the Navy......It’s the world’s largest military exercise, involving ships and aircraft from 26 allied nations and 25,000 personnel. The exercise began June 29 and will conclude Aug. 4.
+1 # RE: notmjc 2022-07-30 18:34
"We only have one carrier at sea" should be
"We DO NOT only have one carrier at sea"
+6 # RE: UPDATED 1:00 PM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan Straitebelfer52 2022-07-30 15:33
Thanks for all you do Hal.. what a cluster
+1 # RE: UPDATED 11:10 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitJFY 2022-07-30 15:28
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The chinese helicopters in a sandstorm close to the bottom look like a swarm of giant, evil locusts from hell.
+1 # That Old Cunt Isnt Going ToForrest Mosby 2022-07-30 15:01
Land in Taiwan….this junket is a face-saving maneuver to show she can go where she wants, even after chinee-man said NO [They just CLOSED the Taiwan Straight BTW] but at the last minute, some reason will surface that she ‘just wasnt able’ to ‘work Taiwan in’ to the other stops…[As in an ACT OF WAR if the Reagan, our ONLY carrier at sea out of the entire fleet, enters it]she will fuck around in the area long enough to establish her courage in the face of the Warning but she wont go…Guam is a good place to stop and ‘evaluate’ conditions..Old dried up twat isnt stupid…
+4 # RE: That Old Cunt Isnt Going ToTeknikid 2022-07-30 16:29
That's my thought. She's not going to "take one for the team."
+7 # Maybe with a it of luckRed Deer 2022-07-30 14:56
Maybe Nancy is taking the "odd Squad", you know, AOC and a couple of the other democrat freaks, with her. If China shoots down the plane it will be a twofer!
+2 # RE: Maybe with a it of luckForrest Mosby 2022-07-30 15:34
Quoting Red Deer:
Maybe Nancy is taking the "odd Squad", you know, AOC and a couple of the other democrat freaks, with her. If China shoots down the plane it will be a twofer!


A O-C is stupid enough to be conned into going w ger but the moslem and that negro gal from Connecticut I think it is, are either too crafty ir have kept their smart handlers and wouldnt fall for it…Id b ok with even just A O-C though
+1 # Setup for something or distraction?acturner067 2022-07-30 14:34
Why would criminal Pelosi be a problem to her buddies in China? She about as poor of an excuse to start a war over. If by some reason the plane she or her double is on should crash it could be quite possible caused by a vaccident to look like an attack? The criminals of the New World of Disorder know their script and she is well versed in it as long as she has her handler with her.
+3 # RE: Setup for something or distraction?Forrest Mosby 2022-07-30 14:48
Quoting acturner067:
Why would criminal Pelosi be a problem to her buddies in China? She about as poor of an excuse to start a war over. If by some reason the plane she or her double is on should crash it could be quite possible caused by a vaccident to look like an attack? The criminals of the New World of Disorder know their script and she is well versed in it as long as she has her handler with her.


No, The idiot w the chinee-man spy as a driver for 10 years[before he was allowed to escape] was Feinstein…pretty much same-same btw
+6 # Plannedell 2022-07-30 14:46
Maybe this is all a planned event. Black swan.
+1 # paradoxicalgolewile 2022-07-30 14:30
This is confusing to me on several levels.

America's position was always to recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation, but I would never expect the Admin which resulted from a marxist coup to honor this position.

Japan and Taiwan must realize that America cannot be trusted to defend any allied nation, including their own.

pelosi disobeying her CCP masters? Wasn't she the one with a CCP driver? she's most certainly a globalist and a marxist. And another fake catholic who was recently told she could no longer take communion.

Are the globalists attempting to poke the dragon just as they poked the bear to bring about this global conflict?

That's all that makes sense to me. As Hal stated this could actually help her legacy. She would only act as an American for her own benefit, never would she fight for her country.

In summary, regarding China's response to her visit, I'd like to say please don't throw pelosi into the briar patch.

And yes, I purposefully NEVER capitalize the names of traitors.

Just my thoughts,
Greg
-7 # RE: UPDATED 11:10 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitJbRiddle 2022-07-30 14:05
China is will collapse by 2030 and their is nothing they can do about it. So since the end upon them. What's important for the CCP is how they go down. If its a slow collapse the CCP gets the blame but if the get into a fight with the Americans and lose they can blame all their problems on the Americans. When defeat is certain who writes the narrative is important.
+11 # RE: UPDATED 11:10 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan Straitcarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-07-30 14:19
USA is will collapse by 2030 and their is nothing they can do about it. So since the end upon them. What's important for the Democrats is how they go down. If its a slow collapse the Democrats gets the blame but if the get into a fight with the Chinese and lose they can blame all their problems on the Chinese. When defeat is certain who writes the narrative is important.
+5 # TibetKing Goro 2022-07-30 14:02
The part about Tibet being prosperous and free is truly laughable. Ask the Uighers how much they love the CCP, truly disgusting. I hate Pelosi and part of me wants to see her gone(although it would be painless) but cheerleadong for the Chicoms is reprehensible.
+15 # Everyone knows this is waroak2022 2022-07-30 13:58
Pretty much anyone with a pulse knows WW3 is right next door. I don't have a problem with an independent Taiwan. I never have. However, if WW3 is about to kick off, I have doubts our new Supergay degenerate military is going to much of anything but die in large numbers.
+1 # RE: Everyone knows this is warjmredmond54 2022-07-30 14:56
As was the plan all along...
-11 # About Time The U.S. stop being Bullied.GQHTRS2021 2022-07-30 13:56
I dislike Pelosi , Biden & the whole Democrat Party Leadership, However , I think it's about time to stop letting China , Russia, Iran & N. Korea ( All Evil Communist cored Regimes ) Bully America, THE U.S. SHOULD NEVER BACK DOWN FROM THREATS FROM THESE EVIL NATION, PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH WAS EVEN PRESIDENT TRUMPS POLICY. ( Also watch President Reagan's Speech on youtube " We Must Fight ( Ronald Reagan ).
-4 # RE: About Time The U.S. stop being Bullied.Haarnaś 2022-07-30 16:08
Quoting GQHTRS2021:
I dislike Pelosi , Biden & the whole Democrat Party Leadership, However , I think it's about time to stop letting China , Russia, Iran & N. Korea ( All Evil Communist cored Regimes ) Bully America, THE U.S. SHOULD NEVER BACK DOWN FROM THREATS FROM THESE EVIL NATION, PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH WAS EVEN PRESIDENT TRUMPS POLICY. ( Also watch President Reagan's Speech on youtube " We Must Fight ( Ronald Reagan ).


I agree, but with this leadership in the White House and Pentagon, the whole exercise does not fill me with confidence. If Nancy is really on that C40 piece of junk, she is already departed, and they are preparing a one-million-dollar state funeral for her in Washington. Nancy, the fearless amazon heroine! Sounds like a slogan from some Commie country! This whole exercise makes no sense unless the is already dead!
+4 # Not to Worry!monkeybreath 2022-07-30 13:54
Glorious leader Biden has this all carefully planned. The true chess master displayed these skills in Afghanistan and we can expect a brilliant slap to the upstart banditry of the criminal PLA! Children will be singing the praises of Caesar Bidenus for generations to come! Sit back and enjoy the show today folks, secure in the knowledge of the fore ordained outcome!
+2 # The bullpenMANYROUNDS 2022-07-30 13:43
How many other carriers are at the ready? Is there movement in that realm? It sure takes a while to repair a heavily damaged one, and resources are spotty at best. Tragic outcome on the horizon, for what? Many wounded hearts of mothers, wives, husbands, sweethearts, children, a whole country. It will be quick like 20 minutes or less.
+1 # RE: The bullpenmjc 2022-07-30 20:16
Quoting MANYROUNDS:
How many other carriers are at the ready? Is there movement in that realm? It sure takes a while to repair a heavily damaged one, and resources are spotty at best. Tragic outcome on the horizon, for what? Many wounded hearts of mothers, wives, husbands, sweethearts, children, a whole country. It will be quick like 20 minutes or less.

The Reagan strike group is in the South China Sea.
The Lincoln strike group is at sea (Pacific) leading RIMPAC 2022.
The Truman strike group is in the Mediterranean (Turkey), but could transit the Suez canal.

Vinson is in San Diego (was in S China Sea earlier this year).
Eisenhower is on Planned Incremental Availability (Norfolk).

The rest are in overhaul or prepping up for their next patrols.
# RE: The bullpenForrest Mosby 2022-07-30 14:50
Quoting MANYROUNDS:
How many other carriers are at the ready? Is there movement in that realm? It sure takes a while to repair a heavily damaged one, and resources are spotty at best. Tragic outcome on the horizon, for what? Many wounded hearts of mothers, wives, husbands, sweethearts, children, a whole country. It will be quick like 20 minutes or less.


We only have 1 carrier at sea at this time….the rest are in port…No money to sail them
# RE: The bullpenmjc 2022-07-30 18:32
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
Quoting MANYROUNDS:
How many other carriers are at the ready? Is there movement in that realm? It sure takes a while to repair a heavily damaged one, and resources are spotty at best. Tragic outcome on the horizon, for what? Many wounded hearts of mothers, wives, husbands, sweethearts, children, a whole country. It will be quick like 20 minutes or less.


We only have 1 carrier at sea at this time….the rest are in port…No money to sail them



Ummm.....NO.

Lincoln is at sea leading RIMPAC 2022. 26 allied nations, 25k personnel participating....


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/photo-san-diego-based-uss-abraham-lincoln-leads-giant-rimpac-fleet/ar-AA106O1J

"The San Diego-based aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln led the RIMPAC fleet in a dramatic photo released Friday by the Navy......It’s the world’s largest military exercise, involving ships and aircraft from 26 allied nations and 25,000 personnel. The exercise began June 29 and will conclude Aug. 4.
# Naked and afraidMANYROUNDS 2022-07-30 15:49
No calvary coming that far out then. The calvary that could come is down sick with some "unknown malady" that the medical profession is scratching their heads over. Would expect a accelerated draft coming in the next few moments. Hold on to your children while you can.
# RE: Naked and afraidmjc 2022-07-31 03:49
Quoting MANYROUNDS:
No calvary coming that far out then. The calvary that could come is down sick with some "unknown malady" that the medical profession is scratching their heads over. Would expect a accelerated draft coming in the next few moments. Hold on to your children while you can.


Nothing but RIMPAC 2022....38 warships, 3 submarines, 26 allied nations, 25,000men, USS-Lincoln and Carrier Strike Group 3.....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/photo-san-diego-based-uss-abraham-lincoln-leads-giant-rimpac-fleet/ar-AA106O1J


"The San Diego-based aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln led the RIMPAC fleet in a dramatic photo released Friday by the Navy. Shown in the photo snapped Thursday are 38 warships and three submarines participating in the biennial Rim of the Pacific exercise.....It’s the world’s largest military exercise, involving ships and aircraft from 26 allied nations and 25,000 personnel. The exercise began June 29 and will conclude Aug. 4.
# Sounds impressiveMANYROUNDS 2022-07-31 04:14
25000 sounds like alot, in one battle of the civil war we lost more than that, 38 warships, ok, what kind, we used to have a 600 ship navy, and in a real battle at sea, it's a long way from port, it's a big ocean, very very far away from here, saturated fire of lets say 600 missiles, all at the same time, and the outcome will be coming quick. War is a terrible bitch.
# RE: Sounds impressivemjc 2022-07-31 05:44
Quoting MANYROUNDS:
25000 sounds like alot, in one battle of the civil war we lost more than that, 38 warships, ok, what kind, we used to have a 600 ship navy, and in a real battle at sea, it's a long way from port, it's a big ocean, very very far away from here, saturated fire of lets say 600 missiles, all at the same time, and the outcome will be coming quick. War is a terrible bitch.


The 'heavies' (ballistic missile defense ships) are in CSG3.

But you can peruse the list here.....


https://news.usni.org/2022/06/29/rimpac-2022-kicks-off-in-hawaii-with-21-partner-nation-ships

"Although the U.S. Navy has not yet officially issued the list of partner nation ships taking part, official news releases over the past month from the navies and defense ministries of the countries taking part have allowed USNI News to compile the list below:"
# Thanks mjcMANYROUNDS 2022-07-31 14:15
I perused it, I don't like it, but I sense a terrible loss coming, a lure dangles with lies urging it on. It will come down to who hits first. It will be a huge strike, to end the argument quickly, and decisively. Pray for those kids out there, they really don't know. Learning will be awful, it always is, it does not diminish their bravery or deeds on our behalf. Their betrayal will ignite an anger the fruits of which will have consequences unknown.
+1 # Hide your childrenBob 2022-07-30 18:57
For more reasons than just the draft.
+1 # step easyMANYROUNDS 2022-07-30 19:53
Roger that Bob, it is a mine field we walk thru now.
+4 # Big game of chickenDogsncars 2022-07-30 13:31
If the US backs down we are shown to be the weaker country and others will think twice about teaming up with us. If China backs down they are put in a very bad light with their stance as the new world power. Let’s see who blinks. Oh I have fifty cents on the old walking dead lady’s plane getting shot down.
-2 # What an "escort" of Pelosis planeStefan123 2022-07-30 13:26
https://twitter.com/tpyxanews/status/1553425760467275776?s=21&t=FWXP2vLf_cuCAQj_RR2V5A
-1 # RE: What an "escort" of Pelosis planeacschilling 2022-07-30 13:39
Sweet! Are those Lightnings or Raptors flanking the Lancer? I know Raptors aren't Navy, but it sure looks like them.
+5 # The NWO/One Worlders run the world now ...NHydg 2022-07-30 13:22
The One Worlders are TRYING to get a war going .....their time is up ....... this is a last ditch effort to get a WWIII going ......... the NWO folks DO NOT GIVE A CARE AT ALL for the populace of the world . THEY want a DEPOPULATION EVENT......Pelosi is a pawn, right along with EVERYONE else . ALL of D.C. , the Pentagon, ALL "Fed" organizations are pawns . . . . . .
+8 # What if?Kevin 2022-07-30 13:13
What if Pelosi is not on her plane when it gets shot down, or otherwise blown up? Can you say false flag?

Pelosi is old and may have short time to live. They wouldn't tell us that if true. Democrats are not willing to die for their beliefs, although they will kill their enemies and even formerly useful idiots from their own party.

Pelosi could live out her remaining days on a beach somewhere while being held up as a martyr for globalism.
+7 # Exactlydrw398 2022-07-30 13:46
If you still think a plane brought down building 7 then you are with the downvoters. Do you people even read Hal's reports? Are you so quick to forget past false flags? It's obvious that the Russians are not going to be goaded into anything, they don't need to be. They can just keep rolling over territory and killing nazis. Again, Hal reported on the type of people they are when it comes to national human loss so these piss-ant strikes from nazis won't bother them. I think the plan is like Kevin says. Russia isn't playing, let's kick the ball to China and see what they do.... Keep up the great work Hal.
+3 # ?PLEASE!!ferrarocj 2022-07-30 13:08
I’m doubting/questioning ALL of this!!!
+8 # ghost planeJoseph 777 2022-07-30 12:48
I doubt she is even on the plane . They'll epstein her and give her a much needed " makeover " Maybe they'll lob off a few #'s of her big cans & make a small boy out of them...
+1 # Rightmizzy777 2022-07-30 13:00
Like I said ..it may be bunker time.
+5 # RE: UPDATED 11:10 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitJFY 2022-07-30 12:40
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This is all a scripted farce prepared by the chicom-controlled joebama regime to give the PLA the pretext it needs to finally take Taiwan by storm.

"They had to defend their sovereignty and the Taiwanese military got in the way, so they had to be dealt with and the rebellious island is now reclaimed."
+2 # RE: UPDATED 11:10 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan Straitwinreader 2022-07-30 12:38
It sounds like a formal plan to hand Taiwan over to China soon using Pelosi as an opening move. Senile Democrat Biden, Floyd will not put up a show fight with China for too long.

Once the Chinese takes control of Taiwan, it will project its power out to the entire Asia side of the Pacific for the time being before they take the entire Pacific. The rest of East Asian nations will fall in line. Trading and commerce shipments between North America to Asia Pacific nations will have to get approvals from China if they want to traverse across China's waters. Its navy will enforce the rule of the sea and perhaps fees. Any direct flights up and down the coastal of Asia Pacific such as between Korea, Japan to/from the Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore Australia, and New Zealand must report to China their flight paths or will be shotdown for illegally invading Chinese airspace. Our current beautiful and lovely leaders are no match for Chinese generals.
+8 # RE: UPDATED 11:10 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan Straitebelfer52 2022-07-30 12:35
she is so brave. makes it improper to discuss her drunk driving husband, insider trading or the destruction of the USA under her parties leadership.. this is a distraction and possibly an offer for her to go out a martyr to start a war that cancels the elections
+4 # old batDean Easterling 2022-07-30 12:31
Iwas wondering if the old bat could fly without wings. She is not worth getting in a war for. THROW HER DRUNK A-S OUT OF PLANE AND SEE IF SHE CAN FLY.
+3 # Probably keeps her broom with herNHydg 2022-07-30 13:13
The old witch can fly away on her broom.
-15 # ShadesofGreenshadesofgreen 2022-07-30 12:21
Hal
Why do you persist on supporting China’s action in the South Pacific when China has consistently stated that the South Pacific is their Territory.

If the US wants to poke China’s Eye they deserve it!

Also Taiwan is a sovereign Country separated because of their war with the murderous Communist China in the earth 40s.

I beginning to suspect that you are a mouthpiece for these elitist evil nations such as Russia.

But I hope you are not a mole:(
+4 # why?theshaw2000 2022-07-30 12:34
Why should anyone support the U.S. and Nancy Pelosi? I can hate both.
-2 # ShadesofGreenshadesofgreen 2022-07-30 16:16
Well
When the China and the Russians invade on American soil, you can HATE them TOO.
+8 # America is led by a bunch of overgrown juveniles!Smiley1984*! 2022-07-30 12:11
America is led by a bunch of overgrown juveniles seeing just how far they they can get away with prohibited behaviour.

Just like a teenager defying its parents over its permitted level of self indulgence and unacceptable behavioural actions.

China is an ancient nation that has matured, America is a younger nation and has yet to mature, but has an overwhelming desire to "rule the roost" and has extensive and deadly weapons it can use.

Americas military prowess is not as all encompassing and overpowering as it was; but it still thinks no one will stand up against it if it pushes the boundaries.

The technique is to gradually increase its intrusion into another nations strategic area, to surround and smother it. This it has been doing for decades in Europe, the Middle East, and Asia.

America needs a WAR to cover up its problems at home and try to re popularise its leadership by using the patriotism card, as played by many leaders in the past lacking in popularity.

I see no just reason for Pelosi to visit Taiwan, it is a deliberate provocation expanding on what has gone before. This crosses the Chinese "Red line" and can easily lead to WAR with China.

Remember that China has supplied a lot of America with technology especially phone networks. It may be these could be used to parallelize America's defence systems if WAR breaks out between them.

Also China has "carrier killers", hypersonic missiles to which there is little defence. Do you remember the incident where an American nuclear submarine "run aground" just off China and had to be scrapped!

For the American military to say "This is not a good idea" is an absolute master UNDERSTATEMENT !
-4 # Just like ...???standingwave 2022-07-30 12:35
"Just like a teenager defying its parents over its permitted level of self indulgence and unacceptable behavioural actions."

So... you regard China as being a parent whom we must obey?
# "Just l ike a teenager"standingwave 2022-07-30 19:59
#1 Taiwan is an sovereign country near China as are South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, etc.

#2 The US is not attempting to station troops or missiles in Taiwan.

#3 China is threatening war because some 82-year old might visit Taiwan.

If anyone is in the wrong here, it is China.
-3 # RE: Just like ...???Paul Kurzlee 2022-07-30 12:48
Quoting standingwave:
"Just like a teenager defying its parents over its permitted level of self indulgence and unacceptable behavioural actions."

So... you regard China as being a parent whom we must obey?

Like a teenager that lives in his moms basement that basement BELONGS TO MOM. No matter what other situations the teenager is in that fact remains. Same as Taiwan. That island belongs to China. So just like the teenager the rules of the host MUST be adhered to. They own the place. Like it or not. Like the teenager there is no way that FACT can be changed. No way the teenager can aquire the ownership of the basement so he can party and wreck the place. Just like gringo can not aquire ownership of Taiwan. China is the BOSS there. Like it or not. Do as you are told or get out and don't come back. Looks like maybe China WILL enforce it. That would be a good thing just like it would for the teenager in that situation.
+11 # RE: UPDATED 11:10 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-07-30 11:59
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The plane didn't need refueling - she did.

She got off the plane in Hawaii and is at the bar. Never too early for Nancy.

The plane is continuing on with pallets of cash for Xi.
# PelosiKad2866 2022-07-30 18:24
You'd think a plane could carry enough booze for Pelosi but I guess not.
Maybe plane us heading to Chinese dildo factory to load up for Hunter and Kamala?
+2 # Pelosi refuelingchip 2022-07-30 16:13
It has to be 5 o'clock somewhere
+13 # pelosiNomad71 2022-07-30 11:53
However, I would like to see her gone. She is a drunken old habg. Quite frankly,I am amazed that she is still in congress and third in line to the presidency.You wouldhave to be a fool to keep voting this trash to power.
+13 # RE: pelosiPaul Kurzlee 2022-07-30 11:57
Quoting Nomad71:
However, I would like to see her gone. She is a drunken old habg. Quite frankly,I am amazed that she is still in congress and third in line to the presidency.Yo wouldhave to be a fool to keep voting this trash to power.

dominion machines handle that. Nobody votes for her. Maybe a few but certainly NOT a majority of voters. No other way her and her cohorts get installed cycle after cycle.
+5 # RE: UPDATED 11:10 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitWhitewolf 2022-07-30 11:45
With this much pot banging and threats, China can not back down if she does she will bee seen as the fool of the world. I don't see China putting itself in that position as saving face is all important to them. China knows it will eventually have fight the FUSA sooner than later, so now is as good a time as any while they perceive as stronger and better capable of war themselves
+4 # pelosiNomad71 2022-07-30 11:40
I do not believe she will land in Taiwan. they will not try to land in taiwan knowing the possible threat from china which they have made clear.
+5 # RE: UPDATED 11:10 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan Straitclove 2022-07-30 11:35
Has the entity, which is Pelosi, been told by the evil ones ruling over earth, it's her time to die? Those that are evil are doing their best to start a great war. It's sad for our servicemen who will go with her. Russia may decide to join the party, when and if China decides to attack us. We could have attacks on each coast. Let's hope and pray this does not happen.
+8 # RE: UPDATED 11:10 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitRealAmericanPride 2022-07-30 11:19
I hope she made a stop to pick up Harnasshole. Wouldn’t that be grand.
-4 # RE: UPDATED 11:10 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitHaarnaś 2022-07-30 16:24
Quoting RealAmericanPride:
I hope she made a stop to pick up Harnasshole. Wouldn’t that be grand.


No, my dog is still here, lying at my feet, ready for a treat and a walk!
-6 # Ruling:Ted 2022-07-30 11:48
Inappropriate. Come on, RAP! We’ve got to be friends here.
+1 # HarnassholeRealAmericanPride 2022-07-30 13:39
Would love to be friends with anyone who will take him, feel free to take one for the team.
+5 # RE: UPDATED 10:39 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitStrong718 2022-07-30 11:16
My personal opinion I dont think anythung will come of this World war 3 will start another way , but I could be wrong so well see what happens.
# RE: UPDATED 10:39 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitPaul Kurzlee 2022-07-30 11:12
Let's just be hopefull that China STAND THEIR GROUND and actually do something to get rid of this drunk old hag and her entourage. China needs to shoot at the plane. Actually do something unlike the Putin that just says he will do all these things for the last 20 years. And NOTHING has ever happened from that idiot. Maybe we get lucky this time around and China takes up the fight. Either way who ever does something will be the winner. Would be better if China did it instead of Russia. but who cares which country fights back? It just sucks that neither of them have yet. Maybe China will FINALLY do so this time. Time to hit gringo where it will hurt. Blow up their planes in YOUR airspace China. Taiwan belongs to China. Like Crimea belongs to Russia. Get used to it gringo.
+8 # RE: UPDATED 10:39 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitThe Deplorable Renegade 2022-07-30 11:37
Paul Kurzlee, you've had way too much commie koolaid, COMRADE.
-3 # RE: UPDATED 10:39 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitHaarnaś 2022-07-30 16:23
Quoting The Deplorable Renegade:
Paul Kurzlee, you've had way too much commie koolaid, COMRADE.


You finally got it right he is not American, he is an alien entity, I believe these people call themselves sparks!
# RE: UPDATED 10:39 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitPaul Kurzlee 2022-07-30 12:07
Quoting The Deplorable Renegade:
Paul Kurzlee, you've had way too much commie koolaid, COMRADE.

I stand with the party that is in the right. That being Russia nad China. Like Hal does. I used to be a real american patriot with a business and a lot of men working for me. I paid untold amounts of tax to this country. This regime fucked us all out of that with the fake virus mind fuck THEY devised and imposed on people like me.. Now I support Russia. This shithole country is finished. (almost) No point thinking this is still the 1970s or 1950s. This shithole is fucked. There is absolutely no point to pretend otherwise. I WILL NOT stick up for this shithole.
+5 # RE: UPDATED 10:39 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitThe Deplorable Renegade 2022-07-30 11:36
No way am I taking up for Pelosi or anyone else in US govt. Red China CANNOT DICTATE TO AMERICANS OR ANYONE ELSE WHAT TO DO OR NOT DO CONCERNING TAIWAN. And Hal, I have to take issue with your statement about Taiwan NOT being its own country. This may be news to you but Taiwan, officially The Republic Of China, has been a sovereign and independent nation since 1911. They fled to Taiwan in 1949 after being run off the mainland by the Communists. Thay have ALWAYS been their own country. The Chicoms claim they can dictate policy over Taiwan? The Chicoms can go f#$% themselves. While I'm against pelosi as much as anyone else here I refuse to stand up for commies on anything.
# SomeoneTed 2022-07-30 11:50
Used the phrases “East Taiwan” and “West Taiwan”.
+2 # RE: UPDATED 10:39 AM EDT -- China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitGunner 2022-07-30 11:09
IT would be great if that plane crashed.
+7 # China v Pelosi?Lexie 2022-07-30 11:08
I agree with most comments ..its a huge distraction and publicity stunt by both China and the US and lets face it China has massive stakes in the US and vice versa. They are all in cahoots. If they do shoot her plane down I will eat my hat.
+15 # May be a Pelosi double.MildB 2022-07-30 10:34
The real Pelosi would NEVER put herself in harms way. To much ice cream in her freezer yet to eat.
+3 # she is not on that plane imoBooskybobcat 2022-07-30 11:46
this is a stunt
+9 # RE: May be a Pelosi double.Gunner 2022-07-30 11:14
Yes the Custom Ice Cream at like $28 a pint or whatever in the hell it was. These people are so beyond DISGUSTING.
+10 # China commi bitchJoedamiani 2022-07-30 10:27
Pelosi is the bitch of winni the poo xi,,, he tells her what to do as well as most of the commi traitors in this country,,, this flight is a setup. Lock and load it’s about to kick off ,,,Jesus Christ is my lord and savior,,, I will always remain a loyal and faithful child of God ,,,
+15 # Pelosi-Italian for CowardLongrider53 2022-07-30 10:27
She’s not on the plane.. maybe a body double, although finding someone that plug ugly and drunk all the time could be hard. It’s all theater guys.. go back to getting your life ready and local things matter now more than ever. Rely on yourself, question everything, trust no one.
+21 # SetupJoedamiani 2022-07-30 10:22
This is a setup to kick off the china commi invasion,, pelosi is way too much a coward to fly there ,,,she will be in a bunker with the rest of the cowards drinking booze cause these horrible people cannot deal with life ,,,, god will deal with this human trash ,,,
+8 # RE: Setupclove 2022-07-30 11:38
If she is human. Not sure anymore.
+8 # RE: China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan Straitbleedingblue 2022-07-30 10:20
If we.have to asked China for permission to fly to Taiwan do we ask for permission to sell them billions in arms? Doesn't make a lick of sense to me.
Sell Taiwan arms to repell a Chinese invading force and then ask for china's permission to come to the island? Lol
+5 # RE: China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitGunner 2022-07-30 11:20
US is such a fucking joke anymore.
+6 # False BravadoQuestionMark28 2022-07-30 10:16
I wouldn't doubt it if this is some kind of stunt to make it appear that 'she' and the current admin' are tough on China, meanwhile 'she' is probably going there to secretly meet with some CCP officials to arrange some type of arrangements for 'her' husbands garment business that's operation in parts of Asia.
# The Emperor Has No ClothesOccamsRazor 2022-07-30 12:00
I'm sure there is a joke in there somewhere about that. I'm sure the Visit to Taiwan is some kind of sham for China Joe. Everyone's economy is imploding, they are looking to Plunder Everyone else, or blame shift.
+15 # The CCP is evil 100%.Doug Brown 2022-07-30 10:12
One, it's damned hard defending a thourally
disreputable and corrupt administration.
Still...
Second, damn the Chinese communist,
no matter what
they say,
Taiwan isn't there's.
Taiwan is not their possession, no matter what.
Taiwan is what it is today because the
Chinese were fleeing the barbarity of Mao.
Seeking freedom from the communist, in other words.
The Chinese communist never had a reformation
moment, meaning they never repudiated state
enforced atheism, as Russia did in 1991.

Cannot make common cause with barbarity.

As a boy our family took in a family from Taiwan,
They told us why they fled Mao.
# The CCP is evilchip 2022-07-30 16:27
That's why the NWO Satanic boys
and girls never wanted us to team
up with Russia. That would have
screwed up their world domination
plans. No matter Jehovah God
himself will turn over their game plan.
+5 # If we would havePioneer 2022-07-30 10:39
Recognized Taiwan officially as a country back when this all started, we would not be having this problem today.
+6 # Again, truly, Nancy is like a sickly Dog.Doug Brown 2022-07-30 10:31
Defending Nancy Pelosi is extremely difficult.
Most Americans would concur.
Nor would Americans lose sleep if she died.
Her philosophy is the reason America is on a
downward trajectory.
Still, do you honor the person,
Or the title?
+15 # YesKing Goro 2022-07-30 10:46
I understand your frustration. I would be torn whether to pin a medal on a Chinese pilot who shot down that bitch, or be outraged over the Communist scum trying to impose their dominance over others. My family escaped shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and I can yell you Communism is evil. Pelosi and the Dems trying to disarm law abiding Americans is also evil.
+7 # RE: YesThe Deplorable Renegade 2022-07-30 11:42
Svetlana, my wife and her family escaped from communist tyranny in Cuba in 1962 before the Missile Crisis so I know where you're coming from. My point in my earlier post is that Chicoms can't dictate anything to Americans. I don't care what happens to pelosi.
+4 # UnderstandKing Goro 2022-07-30 13:40
I understand, your wife and her family have first hand knowledge of what they escaped from. The problem is the West has already fallen to the same hellish ideology. There is still an ember of freedom but it is fading fast.
+5 # So I clicked on the video of the troop trainSteve in Buffalo 2022-07-30 10:09
As soon as the train in the clip started moving
The Doors "The End" started running through my brain. Then I had to google it and play it.

Meanwhile the rest of the country, Do you really think Ye and Kim will get back together?

God, we are so screwed. They are going to kick off a 2-front war. And they have the short supply lines. And the hyper missiles.

Although I have wondered more than once if the U.S. is sandbagging on our hyper missiles tech....

Enough of the bad thoughts this morning, off to the Farmer's Market.
+11 # What about the innocent servicemen?northshorepaul 2022-07-30 10:05
I hope the pilots of the aircraft Pelosi is flying on are volunteers and that no one was ordered to make this flight. Even if volunteers I feel for the poor bastards that will be sacrificed on the altar of politics all for what???
+5 # The Count down when things Goes Hot.Garyhines 2022-07-30 10:05
Hi Hal the count down has now begun .this is well planned to start a war with China . eventually the United States will default on its debt .which owes most of its debt to China .yeah that country..if this goes down Hal you won't be seeing any goods or merchandise coming out of the Chinese Ports .it will come to a screeching halt..people in Washington already know full hand that war (Thomo Nuclear) and the Pentagon.Hal just so understand these people that are running our government are complete total Maniacs at the highest level. Hal. So the count down has started .get prepare as much as possible.
+4 # The Speaker Creature WontForrest Mosby 2022-07-30 10:04
Land in Taiwan….this junket is a face-saving maneuver to show she can go where she wants, even after chinee-man said NO but at the last minute, some reason will surface that she ‘just wasnt able’ to ‘work Taiwan in’ to the other stops…she will fuck around in the area long enough to establish her courage in the face of the Warning but she wont go
+2 # Come onmizzy777 2022-07-30 09:52
She is not really on the plane. If they shoot it down they will say she was on the plane,but most likely will be in a bunker,so ppl will not ask where is she right before poop hits the fan.
-3 # RE: Come onHaarnaś 2022-07-30 16:19
Quoting mizzy777:
She is not really on the plane. If they shoot it down they will say she was on the plane,but most likely will be in a bunker,so ppl will not ask where is she right before poop hits the fan.


I believe that given her age and the propensity to imbibe, she is indeed on the plane albeit, departed!
+3 # RE: Come onmackmaster99 2022-07-30 10:10
I bet you see film to verify ... ;0)
+5 # RE: China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitRAFO 2022-07-30 09:51
You have to ask yourself why in the world would Pelosi be off on a world tour?? She’s not a diplomat, Secretary of State, etc. Just speaker of the House. And why go to Taiwan? Just to irritate China?

No, I think we’re seeing a planned drama being played out. It’s highly possible she’ll never return and that might be the plan. Possibly she’ll be shot down by our own forces and it’ll be blamed not on China, but Russia.
With Joe declining into dementia, Kamala is also lacking upstairs and won’t survive, and Nancy possibly gone, I think the reigns will fall to the SecDef., under Obumer control… God help us.
+3 # line of sucessionDemirnus 2022-07-30 10:15
Sec. Def is 6th in line. President Pro Tempore of the senate would be next, Patrick Leahy. After him would be Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, then Secretary of Treasury, Janet Yellen. After that would be Sec Def. We are in a lot of trouble.
+2 # "Pelosi Says America"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-30 09:48
Eat "ICE CREAM" you stupid "SLAVES!" Hit the 'Negative Button' if you believe "Pelosi is a good person."
+9 # DISTRACTIONDean Easterling 2022-07-30 09:45
IMO, this is a way to change the news narrative from the NATO disaster with RUSSIA which cannot be hidden much longer. Hopefully it will not start WW3. EVERYONE LOOK OVER HERE, NOT OVER THERE.
+5 # "KICKBACKS TOO L-PRESIDENT & L-CONGRESS COMMUNISTS SALEOUTS"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-30 09:44
Absolutely Insures "CHINA ALREADY OWNS OUR AMERICAN LEADERSHIP AND THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND CONGRESS (COMMUNIST SALE-OUT) NOR CHINA ARE GOING TO START A GLOBAL WAR." This Charade is a well planned by Our Communist Leadership and Chinese Communist Leadership to "KEEP AMERICAN CITIZENS BELIEVING THEIR COUNTRY HASN'T BEEN TAKEN OVER BY COMMUNIST CHINA!"
+5 # Pelosibrucetheobald 2022-07-30 09:44
Pelosi is out of her flippin mind. Just exactly what does she think she will accomplish that could not be done just as well with a phone call?

The idiot bee-och is going to start a war and get us all killed. Hope she does get her stupid ass shot down.
+2 # Thats whatmizzy777 2022-07-30 09:55
they want. They NEED a war, to get rid of debt and kill off a number of population. And they "think" they will be comfy in their bunkers.
-1 # Watchmackmaster99 2022-07-30 09:43
*EVA 17
EVA 11
EVA 629
-1 # Watchmackmaster99 2022-07-30 10:35
EVA 629 showing unusual flight path... possible EW... watch...
+2 # CoffersSparkyTaz 2022-07-30 09:36
Pelosi won't cancel a world trip when kickbacks for her coffers are involved...besides her Medusa like looks will fossilize any attacker...as Hal said, "Put her in the cock pit!" That would turn any adversary's heart to stone with one look!
+7 # RE: China Armor Headed To Fujian - Across from Taiwan; Navy Starts Live Fire Drills in Taiwan StraitLambs Servant 2022-07-30 09:30
It's going to be an interesting next few days.
+9 # Polosi is dispensibleSnug 2022-07-30 09:27
Polosi is now disposable. She has reached the end of her useful life for the DNC and the Deep State.

Look at this and to see for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMJh20DYE30

Something’s Wrong with Pelosi!!! by channel Dr. Steve Turley.

They may even stage it themselves.
+3 # Biden, Pelosi, HarrisDoug Brown 2022-07-30 10:37
Their collective incoherence is reflective
of how America is precieved worldwide.
+6 # Yeah, Ron Brown comes to mind.Steve in Buffalo 2022-07-30 10:36
You kids may want to research the April 3, 1996 plane crash of Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown. Some people think that was Bill and Hillary cleaning up loose ends.
# WARjroot 2022-07-30 09:27
Pelosi's hubris knows no bounds. Now it is about asserting authority and saving face. Who will flinch first?

 

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