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China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military

China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military

A particularly disturbing revelation comes from China. In July 2022, a Chinese businessman making medical equipment announced that local officials had asked him to convert his production lines in China so they could produce items for the military.

Communist Party officials, he said, issued similar orders to other businessmen.

In addition, Chinese academics argue that the ongoing expulsion of foreign colleagues from China's universities appears to be a preparation for hostilities.

The People's Republic of China is preparing to go to war and is not hiding its efforts.

Amendments to the National Defense Act brought into force transfer powers from politicians to military officials.

In general, the amendments reduce the role of the central government's State Council by shifting power to the CMC, the Communist Party's Central Military Committee.

Specifically, the State Council will no longer supervise the mobilization of the People's Liberation Army.

As Zeng Zhiping of Soochow University told Hong Kong's South China Morning Post, "the CMC is now formally responsible for formulating national defense policy and principles, while the State Council becomes a mere implementer providing support to the military."

In a sense, these amendments were a window into war preparation.

"The recent changes to China's National Defense Law that reduce the State Council's power are largely political posturing ," Richard Fisher of the Virginia-based Center for International Assessment and Strategy said after the amendments went into effect.

Military mobilization

"The Chinese Communist Party and especially the existing CMC have always had the highest authority in decisions about war and peace."

Why then are we interested in the amendments to the National Defense Law?

The amendments, Fisher tells us, "demonstrate China's ambition to achieve 'nation-wide' levels of military mobilization to wage wars and give the CMC formal authority to control future Chinese capabilities for global military intervention."

"The revised National Defense Law also incorporates the idea that everyone should participate in national defense," the Communist Party's Global Times reported, quoting an unnamed CMC official as saying.

"All national organizations, armed forces, political parties, civic groups, enterprises, social organizations and other organizations should support and participate in the development of national defense, fulfill national defense tasks and carry out national defense missions in accordance with the law .

As Fisher said "for the past 40 years, the Chinese Communist Party has been preparing for war and is now accelerating its plans." The Party, being ready for battle, leaves nothing to chance.

Also preparing for sanctions – Invasion of Taiwan

On April 22, finance ministry and central bank officials met with representatives of dozens of banks, including HSBC, to discuss what Beijing might do if punitive measures are imposed on China. The holding of the "emergency meeting", as reported by the Financial Times, is ominous.

"Officials and attendees did not mention specific scenarios, but one possible trigger for such sanctions is believed to be a Chinese invasion of Taiwan," the FT noted.

The fact that Chinese officials held the meeting is a clear indication that Beijing is planning military action.

"Be ready for battle." This is how Hong Kong's South China Morning Post summed up Chinese ruler Xi Jinping's first order to the military of 2019.

In January of that year, he gave a major speech at the CMC on preparations for war, and the speech was then broadcast nationally.

Foreign analysts debate whether China will go to war soon. The Chinese political system has become less transparent over time, so it's unclear what senior leaders are thinking.

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-2 # Time for exercises and alerts is overmeanize1962 2022-08-24 15:40
As you can see the security establishment runs this country it doesn't matter who wins they give him the same briefing as far as China and Russia wanting big changes of behavior towards them it's either going to be silence and things stay the same or it's going to get worse like it is for our private lives the days of heaven exercises and military alliances and practice cruise missile launches and it's over with nothing but brute force will tell the trick now and there's somewhere behind by 10 years so about 10 years from now they'll finally come to conclusion that I am at right now I don't know how it was going to survive there could be a lot of Peace coming our way with this G20 meeting there could be cooperation new ways of looking at things there could be ceasefires we'll find out was a G20 where we're heading if there's no breakthroughs and there's no meetings and no one's even talking to each other and you're snubbing each other we know we're three months out for me worldwide war that will probably take 80% of us out but if they talk to each other and they have meetings and they come up with partial agreements and take it up at another time or whatever and you know there is some hope but we won't be liberated we'll still be stuck in our miserable selves with no love shown our way we won't climb out of each and every hole that we are in it means disaster for us the regular folks of this country America there is no help there is nobody to liberate us if they meet and talk
-1 # AshamedMANYROUNDS 2022-08-24 01:32
Gee folks, it would be kinda cool to allow my teenage son, or daughter observe this forum, to enlighten them on how pretty smart folks converse, I would if it were done in a decent manner. But I can't as it is now.
-4 # GeeMildB 2022-08-24 08:10
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As a teenager I was already in the Navy? Your kids were already set in a way at 12. Thats why the State wan't to get them at 5..

I assure you that the public State indoctrination camps are destroying our heritage, not a few post here.

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The country is in a great division and you think you can force a Care Bare road thru the raging war, you are only teaching your kids to be fodder.

Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

World Economic Forum Targets Children: ‘Rational Reasons’ to Microchip Them

Until recently, people who wrote about chipping people were dismissed as conspiracy theorists. However, the World Economic Forum globalist elites predict that subcutaneous chips will eventually become the most natural thing in the world, reports Reclaim The Net.

An article on the WEF’s website about augmented reality referred to as “an augmented society,” states that parents can see chipping children as a “solid, rational” move.

Augmented reality, or AR for short, can be used in healthcare, education, and work but must be regulated in an ethically responsible manner, according to the WEF.
Seamlessly integrated

The WEF calls AR and related technologies transformative but emphasizes that this ‘needs the right support, vision, and audacity.”

“Augmented reality doesn’t end there. Your phone might feel like part of your body, but it’s not put in through surgery. Technology will become more intertwined with the body in the form of implants, but it will also seamlessly integrate with the environment – you might have sensors in a chair, for example,” writes Kathleen Philips of microelectronics company Imec.

Brave new world’

“Are we heading towards a ‘brave new world’? As scary as chip implants may sound, they are part of a natural evolution that wearables have once undergone,” claims Philips, adding that there is no longer a stigma attached to hearing aids or glasses.

They are even seen as a fashion item. In the same way, implants will become commonplace, Philips predicts.

Critics, however, are not concerned with the stigmas but with civil rights, privacy, and human autonomy. source
-4 # MANYROUNDS, "When The Vile Comes??Dolph 2022-08-24 15:21
Oh, you don't think the vile is here? Or perhaps you speak of the seven viles of judgment from God that will begin i three years?
-2 # MildBDolph 2022-08-24 15:15
You quote scripture but have no idea this age is about to end along with secular scientists fooling around with our DNA that God created and talk of evolution.
# Narrow path.MANYROUNDS 2022-08-24 14:53
Not the care bear road, and right about Prov. 22, and I was also in the navy as a teenager, and later an 11b in the Army, I also read that from the mouth, the heart speaketh, and from their fruits ye shall know them. What comes out of a mans mouth defiles a man. In regard with foul language, U.S. Grant once said, there is no need for it. And He was one to get the job done. And so, I will teach mine the narrow path, and when the vile comes that will inevitably come, comes, they can see the folly of it, and quench it,if it is in their power to do so. And if it requires violence to maintain their stand, not to hesitate about it. The wicked flee when none pursueth, but the righteous are as bold as lions, fodder I think not. It is a hard thing, raising little ones in this world, thank you God that you are there. Take care man.
-3 # Japan Pre-WW2Loki 2022-08-23 23:07
These actions by China appear to be similar to Japanese militarism prior to WW2.
-1 # AgreedKill Roy 2022-08-24 00:00
Feels like 1939.
-1 # Right Kill Roy, Except...Dolph 2022-08-24 15:27
Except we have become imperialist Britain trying to hang on to our empire.
# RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military RockyMountainBeerMan 2022-08-23 22:24
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They're about bankrupt after investing heavily in Treasury notes that devalue every day with inflation, so they need war and Taiwan provides a convenient excuse; will probably go for Japan, etc., if things go well for them.
-2 # USALoki 2022-08-23 23:08
That would appear true for the elites in the USA, as well.
-2 # Too much vitriolMPAFF 2022-08-23 18:47
Way too much vitriol on this website!
# RE: Too much vitriolForrest Mosby 2022-08-25 16:05
Quoting MPAFF:
Way too much vitriol on this website!


Now Sugar, no one is making you read what the Nasty People posted…
-2 # "Too Much Vitriol??Dolph 2022-08-24 15:33
Then go back to NBC and The Weekly Reader.
-2 # NATO PREPARING TO BLOCKADE BALTICla0508 2022-08-23 18:10
https://warnews247.gr/ektakto-fotia-stin-valtiki-se-24ori-peripolia-tria-mig-31-me-kinzhal-symfonia-esthonias-finlandias-to-nato-fylakizei-ton-rosiko-stolo-me-dipli-zoni-naftikou-apokleismou/
+2 # "Brilliant Deduction"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-08-23 16:48
China's 'Economy' is "Imploding into a Bankrupt State" much like "The United States after Biden Shut the Oil Industry Down (Big Kickback) to Favor Pushing Electric Cars (Our Buddy Elon Musk's Tesla Cars) ." My point being "Both China and Biden's New Communist America Under China's Command" have "Really Horrible Leadership Under Their Pride and Joy Communism." Hence, "The Communist Experiment Seeking Global Dominance is Failing." What to do? Rational People or Leadership would admit Their Short Comings which "Would Allow New Vision Too Save Both Nations." What has happened through is "Both Countries Have Such Evil Tyrants being Xi and Biden running the Countries" Who would "Rather Destroy the World verses the Possibility of Giving Up Their Power and Positions." I keep wondering "When Will Servants (Citizen Slaves) Step in and Take Out These Monsters to Save Humanity?"
-1 # Come ON Kuss, Put Your Spiritual Glasses Back OnDolph 2022-08-24 15:46
These are all Godless governments whose leaders all will be found guilty and sent to Hell, including imperialist USA. Satan is the prince of this world, the whole world is deceived, the whole world is corrupt and man has a fallen nature. People must keep their spiritual glasses on and not get suckered into the constant drum beat of Satan's lies.
-1 # And...Dolph 2022-08-24 15:48
A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways. Those who are led by the Spirit of God, they are the children of God, Rom.8:14.
+6 # Re Brilliant Deductioncodeblue 2022-08-23 18:45
If the leaders of these countries actually do intend to kill off a substantial percentage of their populations then their actions make a creepy kind of sense.
# PlusDolph 2022-08-24 16:05
Being a Christian is not going to church on Sunday. It's a world view, a mind set. When you wake up in the morning you thank God for a good night's sleep, for your salvation and ask the Holy Spirit what we going to do today? Come away from the world and be ye separate. A Christian is constantly fighting the world, the flesh and the devil.

Sin and Satan, like God and righteousness are ever present and the saved man will be tempted. But sin will never be experienced again in a believer if he will always yield to God instead of the Devil and live and walk in the Spirit.
+1 # BossBoss 2022-08-24 21:55
Following this chain can be frustrating because we have many different opinions. Some of us are religious. some, not so much. i do not like the verbage that is profane; but, I try to just overlook those commentaries and just move on.
Freedom of speech. First amendment.
God bless.
# The CCP & Russia are AlignedGQHTRS2021 2022-08-23 16:16
AS I HAVE POSTED FOR MONTHS THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY & RUSSIAN FEDERATION ARE MILITARILY ALIGNED AGAINST THE UNITED STATES , WHICH IS THE REAL TARGET, THEY PLAN ON ATTACKING & INVADING THE UNITED STATES & MURDER EVERY AMERICAN, YET THIS SITE HAS CONTINUOUSLY PUSHED THE COMMUNIST RUSSIAN & CCP PROPAGANDA & TALKING POINTS, ARE YOU AWAKE NOW !!!
# And who is responsible for this? Incompetent politicians at the levers of power or worse yet acting with sinister motives?Man of the Atom 2022-08-24 03:20
Russia is now playing "the China Card" as Nixon did in 1969. "Turnabout is fair play."

Here is an interesting sidelight on China:

"There were no Chinese people working in the private sector in 1979, according to a 2010 article published in the journal Asian Affairs: An American Review. All businesses were owned by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) government. But that changed in 2001 when CCP General Secretary Jiang Zemin began recruiting private entrepreneurs to the ruling party. It was a delicate balance of maintaining communist rule and allowing private ownership for the first time in CCP history. By the end of that year, two million private Chinese companies employed 270 million people.

China went from having no middle class in the 1990s, to 19% of the country being classified as middle class by the end of 2003. More than half of China was middle class by 2018. The Brookings Institute estimates that 1.2 billion Chinese people will be middle class by 2027, constituting 25% of the world’s middle class population. Compare that to 1950, when 90% of the world’s middle class resided in North America and Europe."

https://thecovidblog.com/2022/08/23/executive-order-14067-update-will-paper-currency-really-end-in-the-u-s-on-december-13-2022-and-be-replaced-by-government-controlled-cryptocurrency/
# " Who's Responsible For This? Who Should We Be Angry With?Dolph 2022-08-24 16:22
These are never ending discussions like people playing a big stake poker game on the deck of the Titanic. Ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of truth.

When they should be talking about salvation, how do I know if I am saved? What is your definition of salvation? What does the Bible say?

Majoring in the minors is upside down logic. Will one sin send you to Hell? Is it a sliding scale like back in school? How good a grade do you need to be saved? Is it all about grace and works are not a factor? What about faith without works is dead? Once saved always saved?

Make sure you are saved. Hell is hot and eternity is a long time! Are you born again?
-6 # RE: The CCP & Russia are AlignedPaul Kurzlee 2022-08-23 18:30
Quoting GQHTRS2021:
AS I HAVE POSTED FOR MONTHS THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY & RUSSIAN FEDERATION ARE MILITARILY ALIGNED AGAINST THE UNITED STATES , WHICH IS THE REAL TARGET, THEY PLAN ON ATTACKING & INVADING THE UNITED STATES & MURDER EVERY AMERICAN, YET THIS SITE HAS CONTINUOUSLY PUSHED THE COMMUNIST RUSSIAN & CCP PROPAGANDA & TALKING POINTS, ARE YOU AWAKE NOW !!!

Quit shouting at us you fucking Looooozer. Everyone on this website is perfectly aware why we are here. Why don't you go to the booster clinic and leave us alone you fucking GOOF. GTFO Asshole.
+6 # Paul Kurzleecodeblue 2022-08-23 18:41
Comments with crude language and ad hominem attacks are not needed to express a point of view. It;s depressing to come across such vitriol in a site like this.
+4 # RE: The CCP & Russia are AlignedRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-08-23 17:37
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Nope. Think Big Picture and Long Game.

Russia thinks China is aligned with them.

China is play the Let's You and Him Fight game.

China cannot beat either the largest Capitalist and Christian nations - America or Russia - on their own, so they are pitting us against one another to destroy each other.

China always plays the Long Game.

And it's working...
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+3 # RE: The CCP & Russia are Alignedcarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-08-23 17:29
It is the USA that is backing the Ukrainian Nazis that want to kill every Russian.

Pyotr Vrublevsky, the Ukrainian ambassador to the Central Asian country, told a local blogger in an interview about the Ukraine conflict on Monday: “We are trying to kill as many [Russians] as possible. The more Russians we kill now, the fewer our children will have to.”
-9 # NoKing Goro 2022-08-23 18:15
Do the Ukranian Nazi's want to kill the Russian Nazi's? The Wagner group are Putin's pet Nazi's. How do you de-Nazify....using NAZI'S?
+1 # Bai-denLoki 2022-08-23 23:11
So when the U.S. sends $49 billion to Ukraine, but most of it doesn't get to them, and even the few billion that does often gets re-directed into black market in Serbia where Javelin's are sold to Wagner Group, does that mean U.S. is helping Nazi's? Yep.
+2 # RE: Nocarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-08-23 18:51
All Russians means all Russians.
+2 # AwakeSjerpSnellen 2022-08-23 16:39
Yes, i am awake now. Certain prophecies also predict nithing good.....
-3 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military MPAFF 2022-08-23 14:44
". . . a stone, a leaf, an unfound door; of a stone, a leaf, a door. And of all the forgotten faces.

Naked and alone we came into exile. In her dark womb we did not know our mother's face; from the prison of her flesh have we come into the unspeakable and incommunicable prison of this earth.

Which of us has known his brother? Which of us has looked into his father's heart? Which of us has not remained forever prison-pent? Which of us is not forever a stranger and alone?

O waste of loss, in the hot mazes, lost, among bright stars on this most weary, unbright cinder, lost! Remembering speechlessly we seek the great forgotten language, the lost lane-end into heaven, a stone, a leaf, an unfound door. Where? When?

O lost, and by the wind grieved, ghost, come back again."

Thomas Wolfe - Look Homeward Angel
-3 # Thomas Wolfe389rivka@gmail.com 2022-08-23 14:56
Such a poignant excerpt from a powerful work of literature. T/Y
+5 # I've come to pay/bill you a visit?acturner067 2022-08-23 14:31
Hello, I am your Big Banker and I have a deal for you. China you are in need of of an infusion of more of our blood money because of your spending on ghost cities and rapid expansion of the war machine. USA listen to me as well you also need an infusion of our special rate cash, for inflation is outta control just as we wanted. World, you know I own you, spend while you can for we have a surprise for you all coming soon it will be on the block of chains. War is in the cards as always it make us banker richer no matter who wins or loses it only betters our position so we can take your land/country for pennies on the dollar many times for free, yeah boy. Thank you world, for allowing us fat bankers to control your currency.
-1 # time to pay GODs fiddler bankersDAVID MAAS 2022-08-23 22:21
Yes, you EVIL, UNFORGIVABLE bankers can all the money, property, and even food that you can. NO MATTER TO THE CHRISTIANS, FOR OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, and when Jesus OUR Christ returns, go with HIM and all you "bankers" have to look forward to is ETERNITY IN HELL. You ALL bought satans lies, and he collect your miserable souls. Don't think there isn't a "PECKING ORDER" IN HELL? THERE IS, AND EVERY FALLEN HUMAN BEING IS AT THE VERY BOTTOM IN THAT ETERNAL HELLHOLE. BUY, BUY, more "gold" YOU INSIGNIFICANT NON-HUMANS. ALTHOUGH I PRAY YOU REPENT BEFORE YOU DIE AND ACCEPT JESUS, I DOUBT THAT MANY OF YOU WILL.
+5 # Wartime EconomyOccamsRazor 2022-08-23 14:14
So I think we are going to see nation-states start to cannibalize private wealth/resources- under the guise of a "Wartime Economy". This is where the Government tries to run the economy (rather than allowing the free market) and things fall apart fast. So there will be round after round of political salary cuts until those realize that working for the government doesn't pay and so they get even more corrupt and start abusing their positions of power in extortion rackets, demanding side fees / bribes / ransoms. Then revolution sets in and destroys whats left of the economy and the country. Takes years to decades to build back any sort of financial/investment trust with nations that have gone feral.
+9 # Ladies Are HereEagleLady77 2022-08-23 14:07
Gentlemen, could you please refrain from using so much nasty language? There are ladies here in this forum. You are intelligent men, and you must be capable of saying what you mean without having to resort to such crude, biological language.
+2 # What ??oldschool 2022-08-23 18:06
I haven't heard anything from men that I haven't heard from a woman also. Fact.
-8 # RE: Ladies Are Hereselah 2022-08-23 16:45
Yo jezebel, go preach to your ahab
+4 # Washington's Order Against ProfanityMildB 2022-08-23 14:26
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The General is sorry to be informed that the foolish and wicked practice of profane cursing and swearing, a vice hitherto little known in our American Army is growing into fashion. He hopes that the officers will, by example as well as influence, endeavor to check it and that both they and the men will reflect that we can little hope of the blessing of Heaven on our army if we insult it by our impiety and folly. Added to this it is a vice so mean and low without any temptation that every man of sense and character detests and despises it.

(Signed,) George Washington
+5 # a while backcowgirl 2022-08-23 13:23
Hal reported Chinese troops in Canada...any news on that front.
+1 # Chinese troops in Canadaoldschool 2022-08-23 17:52
Haven't heard any updates on that lately, but that was reported long ago by others as well.
Like Dave Hodges, Mike Adams, Steve Quayle.
And I receive email updates from Pastor Sam Honnold from south of the border in Mexico about once a month. We have Russian and Chinese troops south of the border, and we have Chinese right here in America as well. There were large numbers reported training in British Columbia maybe two years ago.
-1 # India has as many people or more than China this year.MildB 2022-08-23 13:11
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India to surpass China as most populous country in 2023, UN report says
Story by Reuters
Published 9:59 PM EDT, Mon July 11, 2022
-9 # Order Of EventsDolph 2022-08-23 12:54
1. China invades Taiwan

2. Japan retaliates

3. China attacks Japan

4. US attacks China

5. China attacks Hawaii & Guam

6. Russia attacks US with many other nations

The only comparisons are the first time God judged the earth. Noah's building of the ark was God's long warning. Jesus said it would be like the time of Noah.

We know that God's five fold ministry includes pastors, evangelists, teachers, apostles and PROPHETS. God has been warning us since Dumitru Duduman was a guest on the 700 Club and Stan Johnson toured America with Dumitru. More recently Prophetess Vicki Parnell has been sounding the alarm. In January in a vision she was taken to Kazakhstan where Russia took military steps to secure Kazakhstan's allegiance. Doubters here will soon know that she is the real deal when the above steps to war happen just as she warned. There haven't been prophets like Coverstone and Parnell since Dumitru Duduman of the '80's and '90's.

These coming events remind me of the Stalin Ribbentrop Pact before WW II. Russia and Germany didn't trust each other but did cooperate with each other during the early stages of the war. China and Russia may even have secret deals going with the US that will hold up until one of them betrays the others, There is no honor among thieves.
-1 # BTW Step #1 Is HistoryDolph 2022-08-24 17:22
Russia tangled with Kazakhstan just before their action in Ukraine. Ukraine was the start of WW III. Next up is Taiwan and the last four steps could happen within 24 hours.
-1 # war is imminentBoss 2022-08-23 21:11
War is imminent...on this very website. If you do not care to read a comment move on to the next. Freedom of speech...and, writers stop using profanity or off-color speech please. Thank you kindly.
-2 # PropheticFaith11 2022-08-23 14:32
Coverstone isn't a prophet, he has made that pretty clear. He had a few dreams that have come true . He dreamt of the pandemic, the coin shortage, power outages in the SW, and people wearing coats without power in the cold which I believe was the Texas Freeze. Some prophets will come out and say something then ten others will come out and say the opposite! Coverstone's recent dream " Precision Dream" ( link is below) is a SERIOUS warning. According to his dream, an attack takes place during the summer. He saw grass that was dry and yellow. That could mean this month or September. For those interested here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9N6JqDGSiY&t=150s
-7 # █▓▒░ Why You Should Reject the Message of Dana Coverstone Dana CoverstoneEschatologyFalse ProphetsFalse TeacherHeresyLead Article ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-08-23 15:33
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His Message Assaults the Sufficiency of Scripture
His Message Lacks the Authority of a Prophet
Why Should We Reject Dana Coverstone’s Message?

We are given Scriptural warnings that prepare
us for Jesus’ return and strengthen God’s
people for trials and tribulation. Why would we
need a modern dream from a pastor in
Kentucky if we have the 66 books of the
biblical canon?

https://g3min.org/why-you-should-reject-the-message-of-dana-coverstone/
-4 # █▓▒░ Christian Zionism ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-08-23 20:53
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"The Rapture" is the queen bee in Christian Zionism's hive, and
from it, a lot of financial honey flows to prophecy teachers, authors,
publishers, TV networks, and seminaries.

Will there be one “Second Coming” of Jesus or two? The question
sounds silly. If Jesus returns twice, the second “Second Coming”
would have to be called the Third Coming of Jesus Christ. The
obvious answer is: There is only one Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Why must such a ridiculous question be asked in the first place?
Despite the question’s absurdity, tens of millions of sincere Christians,
who genuinely love the Lord, are confused about the answer.

Check out today's broadcast:

https://www.trunews.com/stream/rapture-vs-second-coming-does-jesus-christ-return-once-or-twice
+2 # At The Rapture Christ Doesn't Come to the EarthDolph 2022-08-24 03:06
The Church meets Christ in the clouds. There are only two comings of Christ to the Earth.
-1 # █▓▒░ Christian Zionism ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-08-24 10:49
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The favorite lie of the pre-trib cult:
Quote:
At The Rapture Christ Doesn't Come to the Earth
Here once again we see the deception of removing scripture
from it's intended contextual structure.

In order to “meet Christ in the clouds” Jesus must remove
Himself from His heavenly throne as positioned at the right
hand of His Father. From this point He must completely exit
the heavenly realm of existence, and manifest Himself into the
earthly physical realm of existence of the earth, it's atmosphere,
time and space. Otherwise, a complete reversal of his leaving
earth after rising from the grave.

Guess what... He's back.

Every scripture you claim in your support, you have twisted from
the second advent.
The pre-trib rapture cult worships the "event" rather than the
personage thereof.
And second, you worship the Sabbatean kabbalist rabbinical,
Synagogue of Satan controlled, sand pile called Israel, after being
set up by the Luciferian Rothschild banks after WWII.

You are a Joke!
+2 # Acts of the apostlesBoss 2022-08-24 22:02
Lord Jesus appeared to His disciples several times post Resurrection; so, it possible for God to do this things......
-2 # █▓▒░ Christian Zionism ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-08-24 12:05
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AND IN ADDITION...

The pre-trib rapture cult teaches a different gospel.

The pre-trib rapture has 3 big problems.
* Jesus never say it.
* The Apostles never taught it.
* The universial Church never heard if it for over 1,800 years,
until the days of John Nelson Darby and Scofield. (Both of whom
were very corrupt people)

The word "rapture" came from the Latin word "rapere" - "seize,
carry off by force, abduct" (see rapid). Also figuring in
alliterative or rhyming phrases, such as rape and renne
(late 14c.) "seize and plunder."
# LIAR!MildB 2022-08-26 10:05
Please stop your False Teaching.
# Your Last Desperate ArgumentDolph 2022-08-24 17:56
Daniel wrote, "In the final days knowledge shall increase" and that has happened within the Church as it has in the world. There was no purpose to fine tune eschatology until end time events began to happen like atomic weapons and the return of the Jews.

#2. "Jesus never said it". Jesus was the apostle of the circumcision and the rapture doctrine was given to Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles along with 18 other mysteries of the Church.

#3. "Jesus will have to leave Heaven". Is that a problem? He and the Church will be doing that on a regular basis when Jesus establishes hi government here on earth, in Jerusalem that will last for eternity. He had already gone to Heaven when he rose from the dead and returned to earth for forty days.

#4. "The apostles never taught it". That's right, they stayed in Jerusalem and had to be taught by Paul the doctrines of the New Covenant.

#5. "The universal church never taught it. That's right, the Catholic was ignorant of many doctrines of the Bible and it wasn't considered until the Protestants could read the Bible after the Reformation and Guttenberg.

36. The word rapture came from the Latin word rapere. Yes, is that a problem? The Church will be snatched off the earth in the twinkling of the eye. Is that a bad thing? And what does that have to do with the timing of the rapture? All Christians believe in the rapture/resurrection.
-1 # █▓▒░ Jesus never say it ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-08-25 00:02
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Quote:
"In the final days knowledge shall increase"

You mean like Nuclear Physics, Astronomy, Medicine, communications... etc. etc.

If you are trying to use this as an excuse as to why your failed rapere has gained your attention you are delusional at best.

Good Greif!
-3 # █▓▒░ Jesus never say it ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-08-24 20:38
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Quote:
and the rapture doctrine was given to Paul,

Blah Blah Blah just more of your nonsensical laughable BS.

Quote:
"The apostles never taught it". That's right, they stayed in Jerusalem and had to be taught by Paul the doctrines of the New Covenant.

Something this "important" had to wait on Paul... wait what, “forever?”
That is so lame...

All you have is lame made up foolishness.
Just more of your twisted excuses and make believe garbage.
Completely unsupported by any scripture and verse to be found.

All you have is fantasy and distortions of scripture.

What a Joke.
# RevelationBoss 2022-08-24 22:07
The large part of Revelation, following the first 4 or 5 chapters discussing the churches, has no mention of the Church. So where did the Church go?
-1 # █▓▒░ Jesus never say it ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-08-24 22:50
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Just because the Church is not mentioned does not mean it is MIA.
The Book of Revelation is about the return, and appearance, of
Jesus Christ and is not focused upon the church.

You people just let your imagination run wild trying to support
the non-scriptural per-trib "rapere."

Something that profound better have more explicit support
than your “odds and ends” tapestry of misinterpreted verses
taken out of context,

And most important is that near 100% of such is simply
splinters shaved off of that which concerns the second advent.

There is only 1 harvest.
-3 # Palepony: Really??Dolph 2022-08-23 17:50
Like I asked you before, Whose your prophet?
What do they say about people who live in glass houses??
-4 # █▓▒░ Why You Should Reject the Message of Dana Coverstone Dana CoverstoneEschatologyFalse ProphetsFalse TeacherHeresyLead Article ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-08-23 18:25
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As Dana Coverstone is nowhere close to being a "prophet,"
of God almighty, your question is senseless.

Dana Coverstones promotes fake “dreams visions.” Coverstone
was boldly wearing a Zionist MOSSAD t-shirt, sending a cryptic
message, as to where his true sentiments lay, the Zionist state
of Israel and it's oppression of others.

Jeffrey Epstein was also Mossad, and blackmailing US government
officials and Judiciary members.

Coverstone a fake.
His excuse is very lame.

www.trunews.com/stream/pastor-dana-coverstone-responds-to-trunews-about-mossad
# RE: █▓▒░ Why You Should Reject the Message of Dana Coverstone Dana CoverstoneEschatologyFalse ProphetsFalse TeacherHeresyLead Article ░▒▓█Beetlepumpr 2022-08-25 18:39
AROUND 12 MONTHS AGO WHEN DC TOOK OFF i REMEMBER VERY WELL STEVE DENOON TALK ABOUT A DC GUY BEING CIA. IT WAS A QUICK 2-3 SENTENCE, A MATTER OF A FACT AND THAT WAS ALL.
-3 # Again Palepony, Who is your favorite prophetDolph 2022-08-24 03:12
Don't you have an answer to that simple question? Shouldn't there be many prophets speaking to the Church just before Christ's return and since the office of the Prophet is part of the five-fold ministry of the Church according to Paul, the Apostle of the Gentiles.
+1 # NoKing Goro 2022-08-23 13:23
So Coverstone doesn't even say he is a prophet, since all of his "visions" prove false he covers it by saying he isn't a prophet but has dreams. Parnell, Duduman and Coverstone are frauds.
+2 # False Because They Haven't Happened Yet??Dolph 2022-08-23 15:28
Duduman's earliest prophecies were made in 1984 and are now immanent, 38 years later.
-7 # Stan Johnson? LOL!MildB 2022-08-23 13:03
Kindgo

posted June 03, 2006 03:03 PM

Stan Johnson

The Prophecy Club hosted by Mr. Johnson is one of the most error prone prophetic ministries in history. Johnson is very much a promoter of pop-apologetics.
This where you have sensationalism and speculation replacing Biblical truth.


Ministry: The Prophecy Club

Home base: Topeka, Kansas

Specialty: Radio, TV, and Meetings

The Prophecy Club hosted by Stan Johnson is one of the most error prone prophetic ministries in history. Johnson is very much a promoter of pop-apologetics. This where you have sensationalism and speculation replacing Biblical truth. There is simply no teaching that is too nutty or outlandish for Stan to believe.

In 1999 the Prophecy Club was warning Jews that it is essential that they return to Israel because the United States Government and the United Nations are building concentration camps in America to imprison Jews and "Israel-supporting" Christians.

Stan Johnson claims "the Lord" told Peter Martinez and himself to start churches in the 42 cities where The Prophecy Club has meetings. Each city will get only one church, called 'The Church of Ephesus', or 'The Church of Philadelphia', 'The Church of Dallas', 'The Church of Modesto' and so on." This city-church' concept is similar to that being promoted by a number of other aberrant and cultic movements.

The Prophesy Club has featured a speaker who mentioned in passing his trip through the solar system, a Texas oil man that believers he will discover huge reserves of oil in Israel, and several folks that have falsely predicted the start of the tribulation.

Comment made about Stan Johnson and The Prophecy Club:

"If the Lord were really in Stan Johnson's ministry, there would not be so many conflicting "prophetic" utterances such as those by Dumitri Dudeman, and he would not be now issuing so many apologies in an attempt to regain some semblance of credibility. Therefore, I have also rejected the work of Stan Johnson of The Prophecy Club. Y2K was the last straw when nothing prophesied ever panned out. The Prophecy Club really played that one out for all it was worth - a prime example of fear-mongering."

"I have watched some of The Prophecy Club videos, and while they have some useful information, they are adamantly post-trib. Not just "Hey we believe in the post-trib view.", but they are getting close to the David Koresh brand of post-tribulational thinking."

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God bless,
Kindgo

Inside the will of God there is no failure. Outside the will of God there is no success.

Pulpit Commentary
1 Corinthians 14:

Verse 32. - And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. Into this golden aphorism St. Paul compresses the whole force of his reasoning. The articles are better omitted: "Spirits of prophets are under the control of prophets." Mantic inspirations, the violent possession which threw sibyls and priestesses into contortions - the foaming lip and streaming hair and glazed or glaring eye - have no place in the self-controlling dignity of Christian inspiration. Even Jewish prophets, in the paroxysm of emotion, might lie naked on the ground and rave (1 Samuel 19:24); but the genuine inspiration in Christian ages never obliterates the self consciousness or overpowers the reason; It abhors the hysteria and simulation and frenzy which have sometimes disgraced revivalism and filled lunatic asylums.
-2 # MildB: So who are the Prophets You Follow?Dolph 2022-08-23 15:42
Since Paul listed the offices of the N.T. Church as including pastors, teachers, evangelists, apostles and PROPHETS, who are the prophets you follow and what gifts of the Holy Spirit do you believe in? What cult or Christian denomination do you associate with? Are you a Christian troll? Where are you coming from?
-2 # ThanksKing Goro 2022-08-23 15:23
Thanks for the post, not deserving of the down votes. Thoughtful analysis of events, and even some very careful prophesies from the Bible are good, but Duduman, Coverstone, Parnell, Johnson have proven to be false.
-8 # RE: Stan Johnson? LOL!Paul Kurzlee 2022-08-23 15:05
Quoting MildB:
Kindgo

posted June 03, 2006 03:03 PM

Stan Johnson

The Prophecy Club hosted by Mr. Johnson is one of the most error prone prophetic ministries in history. Johnson is very much a promoter of pop-apologetics.
This where you have sensationalism and speculation replacing Biblical truth.


Ministry: The Prophecy Club

Home base: Topeka, Kansas

Specialty: Radio, TV, and Meetings

The Prophecy Club hosted by Stan Johnson is one of the most error prone prophetic ministries in history. Johnson is very much a promoter of pop-apologetics. This where you have sensationalism and speculation replacing Biblical truth. There is simply no teaching that is too nutty or outlandish for Stan to believe.

In 1999 the Prophecy Club was warning Jews that it is essential that they return to Israel because the United States Government and the United Nations are building concentration camps in America to imprison Jews and "Israel-supporting" Christians.

Stan Johnson claims "the Lord" told Peter Martinez and himself to start churches in the 42 cities where The Prophecy Club has meetings. Each city will get only one church, called 'The Church of Ephesus', or 'The Church of Philadelphia', 'The Church of Dallas', 'The Church of Modesto' and so on." This city-church' concept is similar to that being promoted by a number of other aberrant and cultic movements.

The Prophesy Club has featured a speaker who mentioned in passing his trip through the solar system, a Texas oil man that believers he will discover huge reserves of oil in Israel, and several folks that have falsely predicted the start of the tribulation.

Comment made about Stan Johnson and The Prophecy Club:

"If the Lord were really in Stan Johnson's ministry, there would not be so many conflicting "prophetic" utterances such as those by Dumitri Dudeman, and he would not be now issuing so many apologies in an attempt to regain some semblance of credibility. Therefore, I have also rejected the work of Stan Johnson of The Prophecy Club. Y2K was the last straw when nothing prophesied ever panned out. The Prophecy Club really played that one out for all it was worth - a prime example of fear-mongering."

"I have watched some of The Prophecy Club videos, and while they have some useful information, they are adamantly post-trib. Not just "Hey we believe in the post-trib view.", but they are getting close to the David Koresh brand of post-tribulational thinking."

--------------------
God bless,
Kindgo

Inside the will of God there is no failure. Outside the will of God there is no success.

Pulpit Commentary
1 Corinthians 14:

Verse 32. - And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. Into this golden aphorism St. Paul compresses the whole force of his reasoning. The articles are better omitted: "Spirits of prophets are under the control of prophets." Mantic inspirations, the violent possession which threw sibyls and priestesses into contortions - the foaming lip and streaming hair and glazed or glaring eye - have no place in the self-controlling dignity of Christian inspiration. Even Jewish prophets, in the paroxysm of emotion, might lie naked on the ground and rave (1 Samuel 19:24); but the genuine inspiration in Christian ages never obliterates the self consciousness or overpowers the reason; It abhors the hysteria and simulation and frenzy which have sometimes disgraced revivalism and filled lunatic asylums.

More church shit from this harness replacement. FUCK OFF and take your religion with you. You POS. We don't need it here. This is not a religious site. Quit shoving this shit down our throat.
-6 # LOL. "We" you got a mouse in your pocket?MildB 2022-08-23 15:15
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Your not the boss just another false accuser following your sea daddy.

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

NO BODY HERE STANDS OR FALLS to your post! It is clear to all your lackluster.

Please Stop your SILLINESS.

NOTE: 2 Timothy 3

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
-5 # RE: LOL. "We" you got a mouse in your pocket?Paul Kurzlee 2022-08-23 18:34
Quoting MildB:
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Your not the boss just another false accuser following your sea daddy.

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

NO BODY HERE STANDS OR FALLS to your post! It is clear to all your lackluster.

Please Stop your SILLINESS.

NOTE: 2 Timothy 3

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

FUCK OFF harnass HOLE. Take your church shit and shove it up your ass. You fucking cocksucker.
-3 # Preacher Kurzlee /MildB 2022-08-24 07:46
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Vomiting forth his heart at his sea daddy's direction.

Note:James 3: 7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.

13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.

15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
-6 # Cuban missile crisisPeachey 2022-08-23 12:26
With the U.S. getting closer to Taiwan do the Chinese fear it becoming a NATO base with missiles pointed down their throat. Interesting idea.

Yes the Chinese want every American man women and child dead. But provoking them I believe is not the answer. Building up our defense might be a better way.
+2 # RE: Cuban missile crisisThe Deplorable Renegade 2022-08-23 12:39
Red China has had evil intentions toward the US ever since the Korean War. They provoke themselves. The CCP is the most evil organization in the world.
+2 # China Owns the United States.Garyhines 2022-08-23 11:39
Hi Hal China pretty much owns the United States .so going to war over Taiwan is the little invasion.the United States is the big invasion for Red Dawn .this what China is gearing up for. And of course we have traitors in our military like Milley .who said they would move naval fleet out of range to allow China to take Taiwan.(which will come this November) then the big invasion will begin.for Red Dawn. Hal they will hit the United States with Thomo Nuclear Hal. The United States is already under China's control.conjecture but they will move on the United States pretty quickly in the United States mid to late 2023 .
-2 # Red Dawnboogers 2022-08-23 22:21
They made a newer movie about "Red Dawn" but with North Koreans instead of China. Sucked!
+3 # Gordon Chang...J_Grayman 2022-08-23 11:35
Looks like this info is from Gordon Chang

The analysis is a bit alarming. Chang has been warning about the CCP and their plans for a while.

Here's the link, nearly word for word.

China Is Preparing To Go To War
-By Gordon Chang

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/08/china-is-preparing-to-go-to-war/
# ClarificationJ_Grayman 2022-08-23 11:39
"Looks like this info", meaning the above article Hal posted.
+2 # Why?njc 2022-08-23 13:22
Why does Hal not give credit to the original author?
-4 # WWIIIVercinge 2022-08-23 11:26
CHINA doesn't prepare for agressive (like Usa/Nato) but for defensif war and she has all right to do it. To think or to say the contrary is a little sign of American arrogance.

The principle of the sovereignty of each nation being founded on natural and divine laws is the only one that has a logical sense. Almost all (if not all) countries of the world agree with this fundamental principle based on mutual respect and collaboration. The only country that disagrees is America ruled by ZIONISM which wants at all costs, in view of its New World Order, to maintain its hegemony and extend it over the entire planet. The United States have been founded in 1776 by Jewish Freemasonry solely for this purpose. It is sad that American Goym will understand it only under a rain of radioactivity. The ONLY country responsible for the upcoming nuclear World War III is America, which will receive however a lesson from the rest of the world which has had enough of its Nazi-Fascist-Communist dictatorship disguised as a democracy of a disgusting hypocrisy, which it will remember for the eternity. It is not a wish, but an inevitable end. It can be objected that the principle of sovereignity is a utopian one and that the instincts of overwhelm sooner or later have the upper hand in some nations, but when 85% of humanity agrees, it is easy to put those tempted by these instincts back in line.
# Vircinge: Not ExactlyDolph 2022-08-23 13:57
There is a large element of truth in what you say above but is overall unsound in that it dismisses God's perfect point of view.

Israel has been in rebellion against God for the most part of her history. There final act of rebellion as a nation was when they killed their Messiah after killing all their prophets over the centuries as God's chosen people, 1Thes.2:15. This resulted in God using the Romans to destroy their temple and Jerusalem, disperse them to the four corners of the earth with Him turning to the Gentiles to spread the gospel.

But, because God wasn't done with the Jews he caused them to keep their identity to the present day. One thing that kept them together was their common agreement that Jesus was not their Messiah. They also believed they had a divine destiny to someday be the head of all nations. Their tragic mistake has been that they think they can do this without God, not realizing that they were still in a state of rebellion and had unknowingly taken Satan as their god. This is no exaggeration because that is the case of all human beings who reject the one true God.

So, by definition, these God rejecting Jews can be called antichrists yet are still holding the gifts of God, "which are without repentance", and with Satan's help have been pursuing their Godless goal of world domination. Being led by Satan it has not been hard for them to shed all moral decency and to lie, cheat and steal their way to the high seats of power, controlling the MSM, Hollywood and Wall Street. In 1913 they took control of our currency and in the 1920's began their acquisition of our media and the rest is His story.

The final chapters are about to play out. In 1948 God gave them back their country, surrounded them with oil rich countries who practiced a religion that hated them, founded by their rebellious brothers Ishmael and Esau. Two thirds of these returned Jews will die in the coming tribulation, Zech. 13:6-9. One third will see the holes in Christ's hands at Armageddon and accept their Messiah with tears becoming Christians and part of the Church that rules the earth and the universe with Christ for eternity, IMHO.
-3 # Not Biblical.MildB 2022-08-24 07:56
"There final act of rebellion as a nation was when they killed their Messiah "

They only demanded it, Rome did the deed.

However in the book of Acts you will read where THEY DID MURDER STEPHEN. This was what had Christ stand up and take notice. This was the final act.

Acts 7:

51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.

59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
-7 # RE: Vircinge: Not ExactlyEddamnit 2022-08-23 14:21
Israel has served Satan since Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Abrahamism is a cancer on our world.
+2 # Ummell 2022-08-23 12:38
Historically that may have been true but China has decimated their environment and is running out of resources. They are currently about to run into issues feeding their population. They are looking for new lands to plunder.
-5 # RE: UmmEddamnit 2022-08-23 13:45
China did not get to be the most populous and powerful nation on Earth by not being able to feed their people. Heck, I can buy produce imported from China in my local grocery store ever day.
+2 # Eddamnit: Really?Dolph 2022-08-23 17:45
The USA made China a super power in 40 years. With all of our think tanks and 17 intel agencies we should've done a lot better job. It all happened without a public debate, treason?? They drank our blood and now we're anemic.
+1 # Chinese famineell 2022-08-23 14:53
If u look up Chinese famine, it is regarded as one of the deadliest famines in world history. 1958-1962. Farmers in China are reporting this drought is worse than 1960. Keep watching. Famine will make any country go to war.
+7 # China reads Hal's comment sectionsixshots 2022-08-23 11:23
Although it made quite a few people have a negative knee-jerk reaction, I posted that China didn't have enough time to react militarily to Nancy Pelosi's plane landing in Taiwan.
I said that first Xi needed to get permission from the ministry of ideology, then the communist party's central committee, then the PLA administrative committee, then contact the media and instruct them on how to spin the whole thing for propaganda purposes and that all could take weeks or months.
- BUREAUCRACY - it was the downfall of the communist system.
China just corrected that issue.
Now China can make quick and decisive military moves free from the hindrances of an army of pencil-pushers.
-6 # RE: China reads Hal's comment sectionPaul Kurzlee 2022-08-23 11:33
Quoting sixshots:
Although it made quite a few people have a negative knee-jerk reaction, I posted that China didn't have enough time to react militarily to Nancy Pelosi's plane landing in Taiwan.
I said that first Xi needed to get permission from the ministry of ideology, then the communist party's central committee, then the PLA administrative committee, then contact the media and instruct them on how to spin the whole thing for propaganda purposes and that all could take weeks or months.
- BUREAUCRACY - it was the downfall of the communist system.
China just corrected that issue.
Now China can make quick and decisive military moves free from the hindrances of an army of pencil-pushers.

Now if the Putin would just do the same thing......
+7 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military Shamo 2022-08-23 11:05
If you don’t get it then you don’t get it.
Somethings are just beyond understanding.

Chinese military gear and weapons could possibly be worthless trash. The simple fact is, is that China has 1.5 BILLION PEOPLE. They could mobilize 100 MILLION of those men at the least, give them .22 long rifle, and they will still out gun an unprepared America.
-3 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military Paul Kurzlee 2022-08-23 11:11
Quoting Shamo:
If you don’t get it then you don’t get it.
Somethings are just beyond understanding.

Chinese military gear and weapons could possibly be worthless trash. The simple fact is, is that China has 1.5 BILLION PEOPLE. They could mobilize 100 MILLION of those men at the least, give them .22 long rifle, and they will still out gun an unprepared America.

Key word is COULD BE.
Soon yankeestan will see that the weapons do in fact work well. Then your arrogance will be knocked down a few notches. Guaranteed to be funny beyond belief.
+1 # Chinese weapons...J_Grayman 2022-08-23 12:13
Aren't some of China’s weapons based on US military tech that the Chinese either bought ir stole?
Just a thought, and if so, they probably do work and work well?
-1 # RE: Chinese weapons...oldschool 2022-08-23 14:09
Come on people, how long has the AK-47 (7.62 x 39mm) been around, sold and used by over 100 countries in the world including the US. probably the most widely used caliber ever made and still going strong.
I'll take one any day over the AR. My opinion.
-5 # TeamRealAmericanPride 2022-08-23 10:51
Harbor freight ain’t gonna do squat, those chickenshits might release another virus or the likes but those little bastards don’t have any balls to stand up to anybody. Harbor freight is all talk.
+7 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military Gunner 2022-08-23 10:47
Well everything the United States has been doing for the past 2 years is to virtually WEAKEN us and send our weapons and supplies all over the place and especially how much has been wasted and sent to Ukraine? Folks we are in Trouble. Russia will take Alaska and the rat-bastard Chinese will take over the rest of America.
Guys this is what happens when the citizens sit back and allow an out of control, criminal govt to run wild, completely unchecked.
# Criminal Bankers to run wild,oldschool 2022-08-23 14:55
This takedown of America has been going on for much longer than 2 years, how about for at least 109 years sense the creation of the Federal Reserve Banking system.
This is a Satanic Banking system takeover with a depopulation agenda all mixed into one. The more people that die in this process the better.
All wars are Bankers wars, They profit from both sides of the war. But their time is running out, won't be long until they are destroyed, their god of Riches, greed, and power will be gone forever. Praise God !
-2 # I don’tRealAmericanPride 2022-08-23 12:42
Think Russia would stand a chance against a bunch of pissed off Alaskans, they already said they can win a conventional war against nato how would they win a conventional war against a bunch of tough Alaskans toting heavy hitters like 45-70s and 44 mags? I spent years up there and they don’t fuk around.
-3 # Can’t win aRealAmericanPride 2022-08-23 12:43
War, sorry for the typo
-4 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military daniel_martin 2022-08-23 12:42
If the Rússians Will take back Alaska this means a few things 1 They Will Nuke Mainland 2 They will Not Nuke Alaska 3 Chinese Will invade what is left of Mainland 4 Its better to Fall under Christian hands as POW thans. Yes Russians are christians. NATO is Pagan. God sided with them
-2 # DUDE ! ! ! We have ALL been waiting for YOU to lead us into battle.NHydg 2022-08-23 12:05
WTF man....... You bluster and scream but no leadership ????????
OR .... do you know as soon as you step out the door the U.S, Nazi's will blow yer oversize BALLS OFF ......
# Unclear?MANYROUNDS 2022-08-23 10:28
It will be crystal clear when they hit the beach in Santa Monica, Astoria Washington, and San Diego. There was a guy, about 84 years ago or so, it was "unclear" to many what his thinking was too, until it wasn't.
-3 # you do mean Astoria Oregonoldschool 2022-08-23 14:19
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-1 # YesMANYROUNDS 2022-08-24 01:24
Thanks, I stand corrected.
+2 # Not surprisedell 2022-08-23 10:12
Since the Kings of the East are all through Bible prophecy, guess we can’t be too surprised they are building up. https://www.biblestudy.org/prophecy/china-in-prophecy.html
-3 # RE: Not surprisedEddamnit 2022-08-23 13:50
Satan's book.
+4 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military Shamo 2022-08-23 10:05
China will not invade Taiwan for the same reasons we did not invade Japan in ww2. They will blockade Taiwan and that will be sufficient enough for sanctions.

The sanctions won’t matter. The Chinese are communist and don’t care about economics. They will force their people to continue industry through force and food rations. The Chinese are subservient people, they will listen.

The real focus of the Chinese is to split the US from her Asian allies (SK, Japan, Philippines, Guam, even AUS). Once containment of the US is underway (Russia is working on neutralizing NATO/EU) they will begin their fifth column attacks within the US (sleeper agents) to sow internal chaos. Then the invasion of the mainland US in what can only be described as 1984 Red Dawn. DF nukes will decimate our Navy, DF nukes will neutralize what resistance occurs on the west coast. PLA soldiers will pour in from North, West, and South by the hundreds of thousands.

South American countries can be expected to aid the Russian/Chinese alliance in defeating the Eastcoast or what’s left of it after strategic targets are hit.

When this happens, remember the prayer from Mel Gibson’s “The Patriot”

“Lord, make me fast and accurate.”

God bless you all, Godspeed.
-3 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military Paul Kurzlee 2022-08-23 11:00
Quoting Shamo:
China will not invade Taiwan for the same reasons we did not invade Japan in ww2. They will blockade Taiwan and that will be sufficient enough for sanctions.

The sanctions won’t matter. The Chinese are communist and don’t care about economics. They will force their people to continue industry through force and food rations. The Chinese are subservient people, they will listen.

The real focus of the Chinese is to split the US from her Asian allies (SK, Japan, Philippines, Guam, even AUS). Once containment of the US is underway (Russia is working on neutralizing NATO/EU) they will begin their fifth column attacks within the US (sleeper agents) to sow internal chaos. Then the invasion of the mainland US in what can only be described as 1984 Red Dawn. DF nukes will decimate our Navy, DF nukes will neutralize what resistance occurs on the west coast. PLA soldiers will pour in from North, West, and South by the hundreds of thousands.

South American countries can be expected to aid the Russian/Chinese alliance in defeating the Eastcoast or what’s left of it after strategic targets are hit.

When this happens, remember the prayer from Mel Gibson’s “The Patriot”

“Lord, make me fast and accurate.”

God bless you all, Godspeed.

What a great scenario. All designed as paybacks for yankeestan. It will be glorious when these MEN get this going and then FINALLY we will get to see this shithole destroyed. After destroying countless other countries for the last 200 years or so and hundreds of regime changes FINALLY there are people willing to stand up and get rid of the scum running this shithole. It will be great when the same thing happens to limeystan. That place needs posiden 100 megaton bombs on all 4 coasts. Get rid of them get rid of yankee and get rid of the kazars and we can FINALLY have peace. Great news also is how many countries are on board with this agenda. All of south america most of africa etc etc etc. Good bye gringostain. SOON we will see you wiped out. Try taking all them on at once gringo. They are going to destroy you. and the whole planet is going to rejoice your death. Vey well earned and deserved. Just too bad we have to wait so long.
+2 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military Gunner 2022-08-23 10:50
Ding, Ding, Ding. Give this person a cigar and a big fat steak!! We are in serious trouble folks. Russia will take back Alaska and China and the rest will deal with the Lower states so to speak. Our military is in poor condition, low on supplies, weapons, missiles, bombs, etc, etc.
+5 # You maybe on to somethingRed Deer 2022-08-23 09:59
Both China and Russia have extended relationships with North Korea and diplomatic efforts have warmed. North Korea has been developing rocket systems and have been able to test these rockets over the last few years. I really don't think N. Korea is alone with this effort but are working with others to skirt the ever watchful eye of the Western Powers, China and Russia my have some interests in these tests. All the tensions between West and East are a lot more that saber rattling and we, the US and Nato are going to get punched in the face soon. We have been very aggressive and arrogant towards the East including Iran, Syria and in some ways India and South America. These countries have found an economic work around from sanctions placed by NATO and the US. I just wish we, the people in the US, could find a work around from our elected "leaders'. They have become nothing more than bullies and trouble makers.
+3 # RE: You maybe on to somethingGunner 2022-08-23 10:53
We the people should be ashamed for being such complete impotent, apathetic shits and boy will we pay the price for that shit. And much sooner than later.
-3 # RE: You maybe on to somethingPaul Kurzlee 2022-08-23 11:24
Quoting Gunner:
We the people should be ashamed for being such complete impotent, apathetic shits and boy will we pay the price for that shit. And much sooner than later.

In a country with millions and millions of guns that is an understatement buddy. Why the people have never gone after these goverment fuckers is really a mystery to me. So in leu of that the rest of the people on the planet are going to take up the job. And yankeestain will be destroyed. Paybacks are a bitch. After 200 or more regime changes and countries destroyed this is much much deserved. The people here should have used the guns on this regime.
-4 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military The Deplorable Renegade 2022-08-23 09:57
The chicom troops and weapon systems have to get battle-tested at some point. Their last war was with Vietnam in 1979 and the Vietnamese sent them home crying to Mama. I still say there’s a huge question mark over their weapon systems. Don’t forget, they’re MADE IN CHINA.
+1 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military Paul Kurzlee 2022-08-23 11:26
Quoting The Deplorable Renegade:
The chicom troops and weapon systems have to get battle-tested at some point. Their last war was with Vietnam in 1979 and the Vietnamese sent them home crying to Mama. I still say there’s a huge question mark over their weapon systems. Don’t forget, they’re MADE IN CHINA.

Gonna find out soon dude. I would not count on the weapons being garbage. That arguement aint gonna wash.
+1 # Well, they march nice!Burnit 2022-08-23 10:55
The have nice parades and the uniforms are clean, too!
+6 # RE: Well, they march nice!Paul Kurzlee 2022-08-23 11:28
Quoting Burnit:
The have nice parades and the uniforms are clean, too!

You don't see their MEN wearing high heels and womens clothing either do we? It will be funny when thise MEN get here FINALLY.
+10 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military Gunner 2022-08-23 10:54
Do NOT underestimate your enemy, never do that.
# For sureoldschool 2022-08-23 20:07
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-4 # You Mean To Tell MeForrest Mosby 2022-08-23 09:32
All that growling and stomping and driving tanks on the beach when Naked Nancy went to Formosa and they weren't on Alert?
So it WAS all bullshit…show for the people…Bread and Circuses..
More to come I guess…Shows I mean…These fukheads arent gonna do anything…,Just more noise to keep the peoples attention off whats really going on
-1 # Ladies Are HereEagleLady77 2022-08-23 14:05
Gentlemen, could you please refrain from using so much nasty language? There are ladies here in this forum. You are intelligent men, and you must be capable of saying what you mean without having to resort to such crude, biological language.
# Tell me389rivka@gmail.com 2022-08-23 10:16
Not a challenge…just a what if…
What if you are dead on….how do we adapt our shtf plans to be ready for, well, for whatever you are suggesting? Not rhetorical, I’m open to specific suggestions?
+5 # RE: Tell meGunner 2022-08-23 10:56
Get ready to be INVADED! !
-2 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military MPAFF 2022-08-23 09:29
Tick, tock...
-9 # RE: China Prepares for Conflict: Politicians Hand Power to Military Paul Kurzlee 2022-08-23 11:08
Quoting MPAFF:
Tick, tock...

Now if only the Putin would follow suit. We are still stuck with that bleeding heart POS. He still REFUSES to do anything concrete in the repay department. He's been taking their abuses for more then 20 years and did NOTHING about it.

 

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