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China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade Taiwan

China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade Taiwan

Preparations for what China is now calling "the de-americanization of Taiwan" are in full swing.

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-2 # Done for propaganda purposesMan of the Atom 2022-06-14 01:16
An actual attack on Taiwan is would preceded by a missile barrage that really would be "shock and awe". They have thousands of missile on their side of the Taiwan strait. The takeover would then happen rapidly.
# RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade Taiwanhardway90909 2022-06-13 21:14
May be that i made a mistake buying 50 year usa savings bonds today? heheheh
# RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade Taiwanmjc 2022-06-13 22:10
Quoting hardway90909:
May be that i made a mistake buying 50 year usa savings bonds today? heheheh


It's not a lost cause. I've paid $10+ for $1trillion (very fine) zimbabwean dollar notes, although their value is well under $0.01 at current exchange rates.

They have historical/novelty value.
+2 # RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade TaiwanWoulf 2022-06-13 14:00
I have a few thoughts on how it could be done faster and more efficient, but I am not saying. I hope the try that in NYC. By the time they get done being mugged, molested, infected and burned, they might make it back home. I hope they don't expect the NYPD to come out on that call.
Gives us your tired, your poor and you're hungry. We are all out of people to mug. Welcome to America!
-1 # RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade Taiwanmjc 2022-06-13 18:15
Quoting Woulf:
I have a few thoughts on how it could be done faster and more efficient, but I am not saying. I hope the try that in NYC. By the time they get done being mugged, molested, infected and burned, they might make it back home. I hope they don't expect the NYPD to come out on that call.
Gives us your tired, your poor and you're hungry. We are all out of people to mug. Welcome to America!


I can't believe even the Chicoms would seriously consider this to be feasible. Take a look at the video:
- the waterline is 15' in the air. Based on the curvature of the bow bulb, it's at least 3/4 above the waterline. And there's close to 15' vertical of RUDDER exposed above the waterline.
- it's being maneuvered by tugs (00:30) and is dead in the water. With that little rudder, and that high in the water, it couldn't maneuver itself. And I'd expect to see exposed screws.....and there are none.
- there's about 75' of deck cut off....with no apparent way to cover it
- launch time was SO BAD they didn't even try to show it.....just clips of one crane going so slowly it would take 10s of minutes to launch one boat.
- their 'amphibious landing craft'.....are unarmed and unarmored speedboats. Hehehe.....that or the camera angle hides the little tricycle wheels at the botton and the retractable armor. Gonna be a long walk from the beach to Taipai.

It DOES show they're thinking about (want) amphibious warfare.
It also shows they're unequipped for it, and clueless.
# No Way This WorksForrest Mosby 2022-06-13 05:06
Under fire off a hostile beach…Be like the Texas National Guard on the Rapidan River…A massacre
-1 # "We Must Stop"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-06-12 20:49
Those "WHITE SUPREMISTS CHINESE SHALL BE ELIMINATED UNDER THE NATO DE-POPULATION AGENDA RIDDING THE WORLD OF ALL STRANGE LITTLE BROWN GUYS!"
+1 # Fear not so much what you see?acturner067 2022-06-12 17:38
Has not China already invaded us to a degree? Will they send boots on the ground into a country that most every citizen is armed? I think not. Maybe that is why all of those increase fake (false flags) school, mall, subway, etc, shootings are all about to weaken and or to remove our ability to defend? Also the clot shot hasn't kicked well enough yet? The leaders of our world are mostly traitors (secret society) to their people by handing over their control to the world corporation/Globalist base in Rome aka modern Babylon/Egypt.

In 1953 Queen Elizabeth was a deception to the people of this world? Her speech and the photo are very revealing. She handed over so much to the real powers that control us all today. Do not think our (US) traitorous politicians hasn't done likewise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEw2jKFmwNo
# WRONG MTNGALDolph 2022-06-12 17:32
First of all the Olivet Discourse of Math, Mk and Luke is Jesus talking to the Jews about the Second Advent. Paul's N.T. doctrine is years away. Secondly, Paul writes 5 times the Church is not appointed unto wrath. Thirdly, immediately after the O.D. Jesus says, be prayerful that you might be considered worthy to escape these things coming upon the earth. I have 50 scriptures supporting the pre-trib rapture. Here are three: I Cor.15:51; 1Thes.4:13-18; 2Thes. 2: 3-9. GB
+9 # Religious Dogma vs Spiritual TruthRBI 2022-06-12 19:21
With Respect: I just read those three versus, and they very explicitly point to and clarify the "Rapture" (Return of Christ) is AFTER the Tribulation Period.

If you allow someone to program you and tell you what to believe, you will miss the literal translation as well as the deeper spiritual significance of those Scripture verses. And you’ll miss ALL the prophetic connections!

You are correct that the Church is NOT appointed unto Wrath. Zero ambiguity there. The problem comes up when you confuse WRATH with JUDGMENT. Two vastly different concepts.

WRATH is the destruction of the wicked. JUDGMENT is God correcting His children, so that their lives will become more pleasing to Him and in accordance with His will.

Every promise from God is a dual character statement: A BLESSING if we keep his Promise, and a JUDGMENT if we don't. In both cases, God is expressing His Love for us.

WRATH on the other hand? It is the Destruction of the wicked, and begins immediately after the Abomination of Desolation.

You have to be blind as a bat and totally ignorant of Scripture if you can't see the End Times taking shape now, PERFECTLY in alignment with the Scriptures!

COVID was the First Seal, the White Horse. (White = Lab coat; Bow = Syringe; Crown = Corona).

On March 24th 2022, Peace was taken from the Earth (Red Horse, 2nd Seal) when Russia entered Ukraine and set in motion the seeds of WW III, which will include the USA, All of Europe (NATO), and eventually bring in All of Asia (China-Taiwan-India-Pakistan-N Korea) and Africa/Middle East (Israel vs Muslims & Persians).

FAMINE (3rd Seal, Black Horse) is "saddling up" now, right under our noses as we speak with the ORCHESTRATED supply chain crash and the mandatory food destruction.

And on it goes towards the fulfillment of Prophecy and the Glorious Return of Christ!

COVID was the first and only time in almost 2,000 years that ALL Global Governments (194 Member Nations of the UN) have operated in one accord, under a single Authority.

The Health Passport and Mark of the Beast (Graphene Oxide) is taking shape right now, and will be in place in less than a year.

Our Beast System of Global Banking exists now, as does the CBDC program to stand up a digital currency within a year.

The astute Biblical Scholar can already tell who the Anti-Christ is, simply from knowing the character traits and credentials. (Hint: He has to be a world ruler that has stepped down temporarily, but will return to power - again sometime next year). For the same reason, the False Prophet is already cast onto center stage. It is ridiculously easy to see it, and once you KNOW, you can't unsee it. Hint: Who changed the worship day from the Sabbath (Saturday) to Sunday?

All of this of course doesn't matter in the least! The important dynamic is to study and understand the Creator's Calendar. ALL Prophecy and Prophetic Fulfillment happens on the Creator's Calendar - and does so with extreme precision. For example, the Shemitah Cycles and Blood Moons in 2014-2015 that rolled into the Jubilee Year on Oct 2nd, 2016 had Prophetic Events fulfilled to the second on a 3000+ year old Prophecy. Likewise, the Rev 12 sign (alignment) that happened on Sept 23rd, 2017 was confirmed by the fact that it HAD to happen during the Jubilee Year, which was complete about a week after the alignment.

Those Blood Moons (Shemitah Cycle) landing on Jewish Festival Days marked EXACTLY the end of the Age. They also lined up EXACTLY with the beginning of the Age, to bookmark this period of Prophetic History that begin on the Blood Moon Cycle of 32-33 AD, which signified the Crucifixion of Christ in 33 AD. Both sets of Blood Moons: in 32-33 AD and 2014-2015 AD landed on the EXACT same Jewish Festival Days - Passover and Tabernacles. No other Blood Moons in 2,000 years did that, and there were only 9 total Blood Moon events that connect with Prophecy.

Moreover, the Sept 23rd 2017 Alignment lined up Exactly with an identical event on Aug 5th, 3985 BC (Gregorian Calendar), which marked the end of 6,000 years of Human History. We were given 120 Jubilee Years (6,000 human years) as God’s Time for Man in Genesis, which fulfills the expression and prophecy that 1 Day = 1,000 years with the LORD, mentioned twice in Scriptures. 6 Days of Creation = 6,000 years of human history, followed by a 1,000 year "Sabbath" Reign of Christ.

If you want to tunnel a little deeper, go look at the “Two Witnesses” of the Shemitah Cycles prior to the Blood Moon Prophetic Fulfillment in 2014-2015. In other words, look at the Shemitah Cycle End Dates in 2001 and 2008. In both cases the Stock Market Crashed on Elul 29th (Jewish Calendar). So at the Market Close at 3:00 PM CST (Chicago Time) on the last day of the Shemitah, the Markets suffered their biggest crash in history. Note that event happened (both times) to the year, month, week, day, hour, minute, and second – to “Prophetic Time.” 3:00 PM is the time of the Evening Sacrifice, when Christ died on the Cross. Prophecy Fulfilled TO THE SECOND after 3,000 years! (Further reading, see Rabbi Jonathan Cahn’s “Mystery of the Shemitah” book). If that doesn’t make the hair stand up on the back of your neck (and bring you to your knees) – nothing will!

America HAS to be destroyed during this coming year, to make way for the One-World Government. Ditto for the US Dollar. Which is why all of these MAN MADE Events are happening now. (The Seals in Revelation). That paves the way for the geophysical events to kick in during the Tribulation, followed by the Cataclysmic events (space weather) as we approach the WRATH of God.

People that espouse the Rapture Theory are blinded by their Dogma and Deception. Deception? Yes – read 2 Thes 2:9-11 about the Great Deception. The Rapture THEORY is a product of Lucifer. His followers (Masons) included John Darby and Cyrus Scofield, which you probably know as the author of the Scofield Bible. That one, that contains the Rapture Theory. LoL, Scofield was a Politician, a Lawyer, and a CONVICTED FELON! He was in Prison for FORGERY. You can’t make this stuff up! If you want to sit on your butt and please Lucifer while the Greatest Battle in Human History is taking place – and while your LORD Jesus Christ (and fellow Christians) need you IN THE BATTLE to end Human History, be my guest. Said differently, if you want to BET YOUR ETERNAL LIFE on the Theories of a Satan Worshipping Convicted Felon (Forgery), be my guest! I’d recommend you have a good backup plan.

The Tribulation begins and ends on the Feast of Trumpets. Followed by Atonement, and then Tabernacles – which will kick off the 1,000 year Sabbath Reign of Christ. The information is explicit, detailed, and accurate to the second. All you have to do is deprogram yourself of Religion, and read the Scriptures for yourself.

P. S. Those scriptures you referenced that precisely show the Return of Christ is at the END of the Tribulation Period? You won’t or can’t understand them until you study and know what the TRUMPETS signify. You are mistaking Event Sequencing (living following the dead on the Ascension) with Event Timing – THE LAST TRUMPET, which comes at the END of the Feast of Trumpets. When we will see from horizon to horizon the RETURN OF CHRIST!
# Religious Dogma vs Spiritual Truthmolver 2022-06-13 19:51
I appreciated your post enough to convince me to reply. I have been looking at some interesting dates as you have. April 8th, 2024. is the 2nd of 2 "Great America Eclipse". The first was of course in August 2017. I find the timing of this 2nd eclipse interesting because April 9th 2024 is Nisan 1 the first day of the new on the Hebrew calendar. I am also thinking this is beginning of a 7 year period. I do agree with you, change is coming.
-4 # Sinking an Oil TankerOccamsRazor 2022-06-12 17:23
So Oil is So expensive right now, and so much in need, anyone seeing an incoming oil tanker probably wouldn't think to delay it, let alone to sink it, otherwise that battleship too might be adrift once it runs out of fuel. No one will even have the fuel to check out the other incoming oil tanker, they will optics-inspect it at a distance. And then the Chinese can swarm their Russian oil powered mini troop delivery fleet into Taiwan and other places.
+2 # The CCP & Russia ( Putin) are Enemies of The U.S.GQHTRS2021 2022-06-12 16:47
Many idiots on this site push Russian Propaganda & Talking points, cheering for Putin, IDIOTS !!! , Get this through your heads , The CCP & Russia are aligned militarily & enemies of The U.S., They have every intention of attacking The U.S. , Ukraine & Taiwan are mere stepping stones to the real target which is The Continental United States, So Aholes stop your cheering for Putin he is your enemy period !!!
+2 # And...Gulfcaptain 2022-06-12 19:29
The US corporation is the enemy of the American people of the USA. So, where does that put us in the scheme of things? You rooting and supporting the US Corp? Enemies of humanity are what we are talking about not support for one governmental killer entity over another. The US Corp. has stopped serving the citizens long ago and have turned on them. Haven't you noticed?? Sheesh.
Perhaps it's best you take that 3rd booster shot, turn in your guns, get that 2nd job, wave that pride flag and suck it up like a non binary neutral birthing partner two mom love child you seem to be.
+1 # Three cheers for Putin !carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-06-12 17:29
Alcohol consumption in Russia has dropped 80% in 7 years.
Good to see a country on the up.
-2 # Wait just a minute.Jack Box 2022-06-12 17:23
Equating that Russia happens to be in the right more than the collective Western powers and being a cheerleader for Russia is going too far. Russia has a national interest in not allowing the globalist neocons a foothold next door within east no warning missile range. We have no strategic interests there that do not include threatening Russia - after promising we would not expand NATO into former Warsaw Pact countries. Well that promise in 1991 lasted all of 6 years. We have since added a dozen.

The US is not the beacon of the free world it was when we were kids. It is something different now. Scary different. Maybe, just maybe we have already seen through all the propaganda the western presstitutes are dishing out.

Make no mistake; I for one, think ALL governments have turned evil. All. But in this case, Russia is more in the right than we are. They are the lesser evil we are contending with presently. This is the lead up to the Gog-Magog War that will bring about world government and the Great Tribulation. At least Russia is fighting back against these forces, as it appears we have acquiesced to them. Face it, the Good old USA is now a “captured operation.” The sooner you can see that, the sooner you will see the truth in front of you.
+5 # WatchAzrael76 2022-06-12 16:57
Your mouth... It's YOUR government making enemies... There is nothing wrong with Russia doing what it has been doing because YOUR government is fucking around in their backyard. We dick around in the affairs of the world because we can, now everyone is sharpening their swords because their sick of it and they finally have the power to strike back... Maybe you should have been more vocal 20-30 years ago writing congress to slow their role... But we're here now... We've earned what's coming.. be ready to fight for your life or punch your ticket nobody cares, good luck God bless
+3 # why this concerns me:SuperSoul1971 2022-06-12 15:54
The Russian president began to speak to the Chinese one. "I will give you the land with all the people, but you must free Taiwan of the Americans. Do not fear, we will attack them from behind"
Then, the man spoke again, "When America goes to war with China, the Russians will strike without warning."

So now weekly, almost daily, we are getting reports of things that point to that happening.

when Ukraine was ramping up in 2011 China and Taiwan were not front and center. Watching Ukraine since then and then RUSSIA goes in, but still no China. Im sure there was much behind scenes activity, but it wasnt an imminent or brewing thing, not that I could tell. Then not too long ago, all of sudden it seemed, China and Taiwan have become front and center in the mix.
They had been missing as hot flash topics. So now we have Hal saying, hmmm, could they really be planning to attack CONUS, for example.
These are alarming ramp up developments and then the title of this article! Whether it happens this way or not matters not- Taiwan, like Jerusalem (not spiritually, okok?) was given long ago as a flash point location. there are others ( like Damascus, but for other reasons) This Taiwan thing signaling the attack by Russia on CONUS was indicated by someone in 1996 and 1984 that many regard as a real article based upon his life. We've all heard the "i sent you a canoe, I sent you a helicopter" story ,,, we've had many many words and indications of these very things from multiple sources.
+3 # RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade TaiwanRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-06-12 15:41
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I thought they already invaded us using cargo ships - everywhere I look, I see Made in China...
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+2 # RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade TaiwanEddamnit 2022-06-12 14:30
China will control all of East Asia, this is inevitable .
+7 # They can have itJohnnyinKY 2022-06-12 13:48
They can have Taiwan for all I care. I don’t support sending our kids to die protecting that place either. It’s time to give up the world police duty.
+2 # Well..Azrael76 2022-06-12 17:00
The way it's looking we won't really have to send the kids anywhere... We'll get to fight it out on home turf this time
+1 # JohnnyinkyGQHTRS2021 2022-06-12 16:51
Taiwan is a vital security interest to The U.S. both Militarily & economically.
# Ok??JohnnyinKY 2022-06-12 17:33
Quoting GQHTRS2021:
Taiwan is a vital security interest to The U.S. both Militarily & economically.


Perhaps. But it shouldn’t be. A country like the USA has NO REASON to be dependent on a little island on Chinas coast. Since we currently are it’s a good time to get off the tit and let it go. We can make our own F’ing computer chips
# TrueGQHTRS2021 2022-06-12 19:07
But not possible in the immediate, we need to protect our immediate security interest & work away from dependency, something that DJT was doing before he was Coup by The CCP & Democrat Party ( American Marxist ) .
-1 # Paratroops Is Way To Go!Dolph 2022-06-12 15:33
Taiwan has many advantages just by being an island. The add the US carriers, Japan, NZ, and Australia.
+3 # It's TragicDolph 2022-06-12 15:25
Our natural ally should be Russia, the only way to control the Chinese. If we do nothing then the Chinese have a wide open door to world conquest, Africa, M.E., South America. But these are not normal times, these are end times that Dumitru Duduman warned about. "When we go to war with China, that's when Russia attacks the U.S.". This was spoken in April '96 when China wasn't even a player. Duduman's prophecies and the fact that the Jews returned to Israel as prophesied by Isaiah (Is.11:11) should wake up those who give no credence to Bible prophecy. One third of the Bible is prophecy and Peter said, In the final days your sons and daughters would prophecy, your old men would have dreams and your young men would have visions, Acts 2.
+1 # No.Gulfcaptain 2022-06-12 20:07
No, the "Jews" did not "return" to Israel. What did move in were Jewish proselytes with Khazarian roots. The closest thing to a physical Jew are the Palestinian people left on the land after the Romans sacked Israel in 70 AD. So, who returned?
# KharzarianNikisky 2022-06-15 13:40
The nazi Khazarian propaganda has already been disproven, genetically. Google "the genetics of the jews". You will find that most European and American Jews are 75% Middle eastern by DNA. Palestinians are approximately 75% Greek. They are the decendants of the Greeks who came to Palestine after Alexander the Great and about the time of the Maccabees in the Bible. Amazing how modern genetics can put an end to hate, except for those who make it their agenda to continue the hate.
+2 # Moscow responds to idea of sending nukes to Ukraine The move would ultimately put all of Europe at risk, a top Russian MP warnedlola rutherford 2022-06-12 11:59
https://www.rt.com/russia/557038-ukraine-poland-nuclear-weapons/
+3 # Too slowDwilliamsDDS 2022-06-12 11:40
It takes 10 minutes for each boat to be offloaded. I don't see this really happening for an invasion. It looks more like a show of what they would do after the big show kicks off and they are close-in.
+1 # RE: Too slowmjc 2022-06-12 13:56
Quoting DwilliamsDDS:
It takes 10 minutes for each boat to be offloaded. I don't see this really happening for an invasion. It looks more like a show of what they would do after the big show kicks off and they are close-in.


I did not see any point-defense on their 'amphibious assault ship' (ie tanker with a crane mounted, and the deck cut open to hold speed boats). It'd be interesting to see how that works for them. But of course, life is cheap for the Chicoms'. "It seemed like a good idea at the time" may be the outcome.

Could it even move?! It was dead in the water in the videos. The waterline was 15' in the air, and the bow bulb was mostly exposed. Must be planning for a fair weather invasion......
-2 # Those boats look expendable.Soprone 2022-06-12 17:21
Those speed boats are on tires. Not permenant mounts. If you rigged the larger ship to sink below the tiny boats it would be a swarm of couple hundred in a few minutes.
# RE: Too slowEddamnit 2022-06-12 14:32
Strategy of tension.
+15 # RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade Taiwanbleedingblue 2022-06-12 11:02
Meanwhile the American military is drilling in high heels and dresses and having sex change parties.
# MilitaryKad2866 2022-06-12 17:06
Biden now wants American military to give and pay for abortions for service members. Will probably extend it to locals who live in same area as base.
+18 # WWIIIVercinge 2022-06-12 10:06
SOURCES: China preparing for “D-Day” INVASION of the continental United States, with forces to land on the beaches of California,...

https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-05-20-china-preparing-for-d-day-invasion-of-the-continental-united-states.html#
+1 # VercingeGQHTRS2021 2022-06-12 16:55
You are Correct , and Russia will be joining The CCP in the attack on CONUS, Many idiots on this site cheer Putin not realizing he is an enemy of The U.S. & Humanity. Sadly even Hal Pushes Russian talking Points & Propaganda.
# The military-industrial complex made Russia the enemy 75 years agoDolph 2022-06-12 17:16
Eisenhower warned us. The elite are our enemy not Russia which is white/Christian. But because of this Russia, Russia, Russia screaming of the MSM and Hillary and Neocons it has forced Russia into a corner where they have no choice but to nuke the rapid dog. Not to mention this is God's judgment on Babylon the Great, Rev.18.
-1 # RE: WWIIIEddamnit 2022-06-12 14:34
Why?
+7 # RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade TaiwanThe Deplorable Renegade 2022-06-12 10:06
I still question the quality of Red China’s military and their weapon systems. The last time they fought with anyone was Vietnam in 1979 and they got their asses handed to them. The only advantage they have is in numbers. In an extreme case it could take tactical nukes to defeat a huge Chicom army.
+3 # CockroachesAtomic Scout 2022-06-12 09:54
If you don't kill pests their populations grow out of control and spread to other continents.
+9 # RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade TaiwanShamo 2022-06-12 09:52
Rethink this. You don’t invade a heavily defended island with mountainous terrain, you siege it. This exercise is for what the CCP deems “The Final War”. A triple prong attack on the United States. 1) decouple the US from her allies and foment division internally. 2) nuke strategic targets; infrastructure, military, and ports. 3) send in troops from beachheads.

The Chinese will do unspeakable evil to us Americans and our posterity.
+9 # RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade TaiwanThe Deplorable Renegade 2022-06-12 10:09
We can and should make the Chicoms pay an unbearable price if they attack our country.
+1 # its also how they invade the west coastwherami 2022-06-12 09:24
this plan was revealed a while back. its confirmed that they are planning this in other areas as well.
-1 # Cargo Ships???Dolph 2022-06-12 15:39
It would be like shooting fish in a barrel!!
# RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade TaiwanLambs Servant 2022-06-12 09:19
Not surprising.
+6 # RE: China to use Civilian Cargo Ships to Stealth Invade TaiwanGunner 2022-06-12 09:10
It's all trickery - and then those rat-bastards will come for the U.S. Homeland!!!!
+9 # There was a story about exactly that!Dogsncars 2022-06-12 09:23
Mike Adam’s and JR Niqurst talked about that and recording from the meeeying in China where it’s discussed. They talk about using those ships to invade the US with in there they were talking about thousands of those ships they could park them all far west coast and using tactical nukes on our navy
# RE: There was a story about exactly that!Palehorse 2022-07-05 09:09
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Is it a test?
+2 # Here is part of itDogsncars 2022-06-12 09:24
https://www.brighteon.com/8b4636dc-e69c-4b00-b1c0-ef62ae5eb031
+2 # Oh bravo China!Lexie 2022-06-12 09:08
So what is stopping them? This game of charade has gone on too long.
+3 # Excellent pointzVsq@4aM9 2022-06-12 09:50
Excellent point, it is said as much to keep off balance an relax with repetitive statements then at such time when think not STRIKE, Chinese doing on their terms, they do risk losing 70% infrastructure once they do hit Taiwan, Taiwan has military pacts with several countries that hit China targets with hypersonic missles o e being 3 gorges dam that alone destroy most of china's logistical bases for rest of country there's more but Chinese won't hit until it has advantages....you do have point but what mention in mind
+9 # RE: Oh bravo China!John Galt 2022-06-12 09:44
Quoting Lexie:
So what is stopping them? This game of charade has gone on too long.


The only thing holding them back is the Holy Spirit. When the church is removed, He will step aside and Satan will completely have his way on the earth for a short time.
+11 # HeisFaithfulandTrueBowlsarefilling 2022-06-12 10:49
Believers in the West, particularly here in America, are literally the last part of the Body of Christ globally who still believe in a pre-trib rapture timing. I say this gently, but one can only believe in pre-trib timing only from hearing someone say that. One can not get that out of reading the Bible itself. It is only a 150 year interpretation that a note in a Darby study Bible stated. We must strengthen our hearts and minds to not be offended with Him, let our hearts grow cold, hard, deceived as lawlessness increases. Believers thru the centuries have stood as beacons of life, Truth, hope, love in the midst of great darkness and persecution. We r not whisked away, we r to be salt and light in the midst of it all, sharing and fulfill His sufferings and to be an equally yoked Bride to partner with Him one Day. He will never leave or forsake us. He will return to make all the wrong things right. He will rule and reign in perfect justice, mercy, righteousness. Is 60:1-2. Matt 24 especially the timing and placement of the word "then" in verses 29-31. The pretrib Theology is a dangerous false doctrine for it doesn't motivate the believer to press into His heart and be made ready and to be His testimony in the midst of troublings times.
# MtnGal is CORRECT!RBI 2022-06-13 09:31
MtnGal, very well said! The best I've ever seen it summarized in any Forum, and confirmed by some of Jack Box's analysis. I wrote a summary, clarifying events and placing them in context with the Creator's Calendar. It is above, near the beginning of the comment stack. Please read and share your thoughts there, as your Spiritual Wisdom is quite revealing.

You can tell the people who truly Believe in Christ, follow Him, and serve Him with their life's mission and purpose. Such people are full of Spiritual Wisdom, and have a grasp of reality that lends itself to serving our fellow humans. And we do NOT fear the future!

On the other hand, you can sense the desperation in the Rapture Believers, especially as global events indicate the Tribulation Period is manifesting in real time.

IF there was going to be a Rapture, it would have happened in Sept-Oct 2019.

A Pre-Trib Rapture is simply impossible, and is easily discerned with common sense - before you even have to dive into the Scriptures for verification.

If there was a Pre-Trib Rapture, there would be no need for the events and players mentioned in Revelation. In other words, if the Saints were already gone, what would be the point of the 144,000? Or the Two Witnesses? Or Christ returning FOR His Bride - if they were already WITH Him? LoL, in fact there would be no need for the Book of Revelation!

We are given the description of events, timing, and prophetic themes and markers so that we can prepare. It is our Final Exam! As Jack Box has so accurately expressed (with respect to Scripture Truth), we will be persecuted for His Name's sake. That has always been so, and it will increase with the increasing desperation and resentment by the Anti-Christ followers. They won't have a plan on how to cope, simply because they won't have any understanding of manifesting events and catastrophes.

How much worse will it be for the Rapture Believers, when all of these events transpire and they are still here - and totally unprepared? Not to mention the devastation from having to abandon their Faith, at the hour of their greatest need.

Words can't properly express what a tremendous responsibility and wonderful opportunity it is to be here during this period of history! It will be a glorious event to witness the Return of Christ - and think of what an honor it will be to be part of the Remnant standing here to greet Him. Especially after we have endured unto the End.

Compare that to the SHAME the Rapture Believers will experience, when the best they can say is that they sat down and did nothing to prepare for the Messiah's Return. That's not going to be a pleasant conversation.
-2 # Wrong MtngalDolph 2022-06-12 17:36
First of all the Olivet Discourse of Math, Mk and Luke is Jesus talking to the Jews about the Second Advent. Paul's N.T. doctrine is years away. Secondly, Paul writes 5 times the Church is not appointed unto wrath. Thirdly, immediately after the O.D. Jesus says, be prayerful that you might be considered worthy to escape these things coming upon the earth. I have 50 scriptures supporting the pre-trib rapture. Here are three: I Cor.15:51; 1Thes.4:13-18; 2Thes. 2: 3-9. GB
-1 # And Where Do The “Tribulation Saints” come from …Jack Box 2022-06-12 14:12
If the Saints are all raptured “off planet?” The Greek word for saint used universally means the ‘elect’ or the ones who are saved through Gods Grace. My reading of Revelation 6:9-11 (5th Seal) and other passages in Revelation that indicate the Antichrist will wage war on the Saints really mean only one thing. Jesus said it, and we had better get used to it. We will be persecuted for his name’s sake. Dispensation Theology has been thoroughly proven to base its conclusions on a narrow “it can happen only the way we have discovered,” through a mechanism of dispensations of God’s Grace that has special a very special dispensation called the Church Age, that is found nowhere in scripture.

Has any of this lead-up to the tribulation happened like the dispensationals said it would happen? That is because it is scriptural error that has given hope to several generations reinforced by books and movies about being left behind. When that turns out to not be the case, how many will fall away from the faith due to a popular Christian Culture error?
-2 # JackDolph 2022-06-12 17:46
A great multitude are saved during the tribulation, in fact they are called the Great Multitude. Many of these are those left behind because they were luke warm believers. Paul wrote five times, We, the Church, is not appointed unto wrath. God died for us and their is no reason for us to die again unless we weren't saved when the rapture comes, called Jacob's Trouble because it is Daniel's 70th Week and all seventy weeks were appointed unto the Jews and Jerusalem, Dan. 9:24.
+1 # RE: HeisFaithfulandTrueCarla 2022-06-12 13:17
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Well said
+7 # China, due to disbeliefDoug Brown 2022-06-12 08:59
Disbelief in Jesus Christ, Son of God,
relegates them, the CCP, to the dust bins of
history.
-1 # There may be more true...Dolph 2022-06-12 17:01
...believers in China than the US.
# RE: China, due to disbeliefEddamnit 2022-06-12 14:37
Satan and the fallen believe in Jesus.
Believing is nothing.
+8 # Amensupporttheblue 2022-06-12 09:08
May it happen soon

 

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