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CLAIM: U.S. Navy P-8 Spy Plane Provided Coordinates for Ukraine to Attack Russian Ship


Information is leaking out of the United Kingdom that the US Navy used its new marine surveillance aircraft to provide accurate targeting data to Ukrainian forces to sink the Russian Black Sea flag ship Moskva on April 13.
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I listened to some of what Dr. Fuellmich said. He's talking about older version nuclear weapons, which he doesn't believe Russia will use. But Russia's nuclear arsenal has advanced beyond the first generation weapons. Now nuclear weapons are so efficient that it is possible to detonate a nuclear weapon and leave no nuclear residue to contaminate the area.
Perpaps that data sank the Moskva.
Yet.....no worse than what Russia provided to North Vietnam during the Vietnam war.
And in fact....Russian pilots FLEW against US pilots during tIhe Vietnam war.
I see this as fare recompense.....50yrs later.
Russia is being decimated.
It doesn 't matter if you agree with that or not.
NATO is systematically dismantaling Russia, using Ukiraine a proxy.
And yet.....Russia (and their sycophant clowns in the US) seem to ignore that.
It's pathetic.
Russia is being evicerated....but refuses to accept or recognice that.
And THAT is why they will lose.
FWIW......
I could NOT care less who wins here.
Both Ukraine and Russia are as dirty as they come.
Let them kill each other.....until they're so sick of the killing that they ask for help.
At that point....we do our/m BEST to help /mediate.
Perhaps that data sank the Moskva.
Yet.....no worse than what Russia provided to North Vietnam during the Vietnam war.
And in fact....Russian pilots FLEW against US pilots during tIhe Vietnam war.
Payback's a bitch.
Russian pilots shot down our planes in Vietnam and Koriea,
Boo..hoo...we told the Ukrainians where their cruiser was, and they sank it.
Their cruiser was effectively defenseless due to obsolesence.
It should not have been there.
Russia lost it due to gross incompetence.
They are losing....ane WILL lose....this war for the same reason.
This WAS their war to lose. And they HAVE ALREADY lost it.
Also, the fiction book "Twilights Last Gleaming" suggests that when the US loses its first major military asset like an aircraft carrier that the US would come unglued internally with massive social unrest approaching civil war. I wish I could believe that but I think the problem with the US is that as long as they have NASCAR, NFL, and Kardashians that they US population won't get off their obese butts and engage in massive unrest. Way too lazy.
That's my speculation for the day, and typically nothing in the real world plays out the way I think so don't worry about it. Except for the apathy of US citizens.
The book I pointed out, though fiction, has what seems to be predictions on the chaos. For example when people riot in the upper northwest the government sends troop to quell them.
When the public in Texas is threatening to riot the government starts making an effort to send in troops until the Texas governer basically says don't you dare. Because in Texas you can be sure that the majority of the populace is well armed and best left alone.
So I get from the comments that Russia, to justify a retaliatory attack, would have to present difficult-to-obtain hard evidence on the world stage; evidence which would be ignored by the Western media.
So then, rather than a direct accusation as a grounds for retaliating, a possible response by Russia might be to assist the Chinese with targeting on one of our carriers in the South China Sea. China has been itching to start it up with Taiwan, and Russian assistance would give Russia plausible deniability, and set things off for China.
China right now needs the public distracted from its economic woes and Shanghai fiasco. Bingo, we're in a two-front war, which the neocons of course insist we can win. ( The two fronts are: expensive materiel sent to Ukraine along with troops into Poland, and Communist China )
China/Russia have developed a number of very potent anti-ship missiles in several attack modes; some even cloaked and non-detectable.
This would be playing dirty in a tit-for-tat, and with the same result - who to blame for the enhanced accuracy and lethality?
As the title says, not likely, but something we better watch out for. Russian tacticians are clever; ours are mostly woke.
The Putin probably would not eeven do that. He would be worrying too much about his **partners** and therefor refuse to get into it. Like he does on the home front....NOTHING. No retaliation for the ship. Its been a week now. WTF is the Putin doing about it?? NOTHING. Next week at this time the story will be the same. Probably MORE attacks on Russia and NO response from the USELESS Putin. On and on it goes. Week after week.
Maybe the Russian strategy is to force us to commit resources to every possible contingency of attack by Russia, not knowing what they will do, or where, or when. I have already seen stories of Congressmen complaining we are depleting some of our best common-fielded weapons for Ukraine. Contracts are being let to replenish these. What is the lead time ?
Maybe Russia also realizes that in causing us to react to everything, our huge budget deficit becomes more unmanageable and fatal. We have already started on the immutable path to hyperinflation as we keep printing money ( aka issuing Treasury Notes bought up by our own Fed ) to "rescue" everything.
Do some math here: March Wholesale Producer Index was up 11%. That's an exponential X^0.11. What if April's is 20% ( likely ) ? Then we are dealing with an exponent growing at an exponential rate ! That runs away so fast it's incomprehensible. VERY soon, nobody will take the U.S.' credit or printed money, including our own Defense Contractors. Who will force the employees to come to work for worthless money ? Who will force the suppliers' employees to come to work, etc. ?
Also, as a military strategy, ambiguity of response is one of the most devastating to an enemy. We know they can do any number of very nasty things, yet they hold their peace - very unnerving.
If China plans to attack and invade, they would have a much easier time.
I know. 300 million guns in this country! They wouldn’t dare.
Our guns aren’t gonna help against tanks, bombs or more modern weapons. Maybe we could mount some guerilla war for a while but with no resupply, what can you do?
I’m not saying we shouldn’t fight, but it won’t look good.
Biden is even depleting our Emergency Oil Reserves. It’s like he’s following a written plan to prepare a nation to be invaded.
A P-8 however, can carry SLAM-ER which has an 800 lb. warhead and pinpoint accuracy. What if the P-8 launched from in or near Romanian airspace, and guided the missile(s) around to the shore side and directed the hit right on the Moskva's missile batteries? You would get exactly what you saw in the big fireball and sinking.
The Russians would see the launch from space assets and know we did it; also post investigation of the wreckage might confirm it. I hope I am wrong, because this would be a direct attack on Russia by sinking their flagship, and we could then expect total war with them.
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/neptun.htm
The Putin IDIOT still REFUSES to retaliate. How many more decades is this going to take for a response? Of equal value? I wish they would replace the Putin with a hardliner. Then the response would already right now be done. Russia needs to respond to each and every provocation RIGHT AWAY. But the USELESS Putin won't. So nato keeps attacking him. Duh........
The USELESS Putin REFUSES to retaliate. So WTF are you taslking about here. Dont matter if nato did it. The USELESS putin won't respond.
sunk Russian Ship had a sliver of the true Cross
on board, and that it was lost.
Protestants scorn venerated relics but Catholics and
Orthodox do not. The Russians are far more
religious than Catholics and Protestants,
unfortunately. Catholics used to regard piety and
Holy acts, but generally not any more.
The Russians, on the other hand, would esteem
A piece of the True Cross with the greatest
reverence, and may answer the question as
to why they are so passed off.
Sure. Dream on buddy. Joke of the day award goes to YOU.
Probably NOT with the Putin in charge. What will his **partners** think if he retaliates?? OOoooh sounz soooo scary ooooooh.
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