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CLAIM: Ukraine Soldiers SOLD U.S. HIMARS to Chechens . . . who were Russian Army Intel

CLAIM: Ukraine Soldiers SOLD U.S. HIMARS to Chechens . . . who were Russian Army Intel

Reports are coming in CLAIMING (not yet verified) that Ukrainian Armed Forces members SOLD a United States "HIMARS" Multiple Rocket Launcher System (MLRS) to men they thought were "Chechens" for one million dollars.

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+1 # This story almost makes you want to laughMan of the Atom 2022-07-09 05:51
Of course the unnecessary deaths caused by "our glorious leader" and the NATO crowd failing to seriously negotiate peace are really bad of course but maybe it had to happen - "when pride blossoms it reaps a harvest rich in tears" said the Greek poet Homer and it seems to me that "NATO" was the prouder one with their noses up in the air in all this mess. Now we know there is a "black market" in weapons and that has been true worldwide for a long time, and certainly it is true in Ukraine where some soldiers domestic and foreign are treated like cannon fodder. On the lighter side maybe you already heard that LGBTQ really means "Let's Get Biden To Quit!"
+1 # SerbiaLoki 2022-07-09 00:56
Also read somewhere that Ukrainians selling Javelins on black market in Serbia and being bought up by Wagner Group.
+2 # RE: CLAIM: Ukraine Soldiers SOLD U.S. HIMARS to Chechens . . . who were Russian Army IntelBeetlepumpr 2022-07-08 23:26
BIDEN BULLSHIT BLUNDERING ON PURPOSE DIRECTIVE FROM OH BLAMMA
+1 # OkSrmay72 2022-07-08 20:53
How can we talk about weapons that blows "known" physics away. Then say Russia can reverse engineer them to defeat them ???? Hymars might be advanced to the public but, if Russia finally tells the world of weapons that before now were impossible, then ah forget it Jesus said only those with eyes to see and ears to hear can understand it anyways.
+3 # RE: CLAIM: Ukraine Soldiers SOLD U.S. HIMARS to Chechens . . . who were Russian Army Intelpsampson 2022-07-08 18:55
What a humiliating slap in the face for Bydin and shows the true colors of Ukraine.....
-2 # RE: CLAIM: Ukraine Soldiers SOLD U.S. HIMARS to Chechens . . . who were Russian Army Intelmjc 2022-07-08 19:00
Quoting psampson:
What a humiliating slap in the face for Bydin and shows the true colors of Ukraine.....


It's bullshit. We've given them 8. We've promised 4 more (but not delivered). Those 8 are the most scrutinized trucks on the planet.

Ukraine knows what's at stake if they fuck up and 'loose' one.
# Two less nowLoki 2022-07-09 00:56
Two were destroyed by Russkies.
-1 # RE: Two less nowmjc 2022-07-09 01:28
Quoting Loki:
Two were destroyed by Russkies.


sure....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-disputes-russias-proofless-claim-it-destroyed-himars-launchers/ar-AAXM5eJ


Ukraine Disputes Russia's Proofless Claim It Destroyed HIMARS Launchers

3 days ago"High-precision air-based missiles have destroyed 2 US-made HIMARS multiple-launch rocket launchers and 2 ammunition depots near Malotaranovka in Donetsk People's Republic," the Russian Ministry of...
+3 # americaldocamericaldoc 2022-07-08 16:45
Her is another big one for Russia launched today

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-giant-nuclear-torpedo-carrying-submarine-declared-operational/ar-AAZmUSw?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=990f9537fbde4976a79f6fc059b2420f
# It looks impressive enough to meMan of the Atom 2022-07-09 06:07
They are obviously going another way than aircraft carriers which are big targets on the surface. If things go hot quickly, antiship missiles will quickly spell the end of the carrier era just as naval aviation effectively brought to an end the battleship era during WW II. This will be especially true in the Pacific where our genius politicians stuffed with corporate donations have seen fit to outsource our industry to a country which has used our largess to undertake a large and rapid military modernization - they are building one new navy ship EVERY MONTH.
-4 # RE: americaldocmjc 2022-07-08 19:19
Quoting americaldoc:
Her is another big one for Russia launched today

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-giant-nuclear-torpedo-carrying-submarine-declared-operational/ar-AAZmUSw?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=990f9537fbde4976a79f6fc059b2420f


And they view this as a 'success'.

Here is where American cost/benefit analysis and game theory have driven Russia into the ground.

Consider this....this submarine's primary armament will now be 4 glorivied (long-range/maneuvering) huge mini-subs.

It will haul them everywhere.....forevermore. If they launch one ..... it'll be Armageddon....an unrestricted nuclear exchange. As such, it has deterrent value....just like a nuclear ballistic missile or cruise missile. Except......it can only be launched at port cities.....unlike a nuclear ballistic missile or cruise missile.

It's utility is that it would probably be more effective at destroying moored ships than an air or ground burst missile would be. The Bikini tests have shown that ships are extremely resistant to air/surface burt nukes.

Now..... how many such ports in the world are there, controlled by Russia's 'adversaries'. Perhaps 12 (Norfolk, San Diego, Alameda, Bremerton, Kings Bay, Philadelphia, Scapa Flow, etc).

So......
1) there are a dozen or so targets for which this 'adds value' as a deterrent
2) the space dedicated to attack those dozen or so targets......is lost, and can not be used to target the hundreds of other strategic targets in Russia's adversaries
3) with minimal 'deterrent' value (and a small target set).....the space can also now NOT be used to carry conventional (non-nuclear) weaponry. You know....the kind that could be used in a conventional war .....LIKE IN UKRAINE OR SYRIA.

Meanwhile.....in the free world.....these cost/benefit analyses ARE done. America fields enough Trident subs to destroy every major city in Russia.....NOT JUST THE COASTAL CITIES. And are remaining subs, although then can carry nuclear weapons, primarily carry the weapons America uses EVERY YEAR.

Good luck finding an American nuclear sub that has NOT fired dozens of Tomahawk cruise missiles in its service life.

These Russian boats add NOTHING to their strategic deterrent. And the little nuclear mini-subs have NO VALUE in low-level (Afghan/Syria/Iraq/Ukraine/etc) conflicts.

This is the kind of GROSS mis-allocation of resources that that inevitably results from an un-elected kleptocracy.

The Russian military is a donkey-show.
+2 # RE: americaldocpaulattahoe 2022-07-08 20:00
Quoting mjc:


The Russian military is a donkey-show.


Wow! With you mjc, a little bit of ignorance goes a long way.

Outnumbered by the Ukrainians Russia has eliminated 80% of the Ukraine Army.

Col. MacGregor: "Ukraine lost 80% of its army and is effectively a failed state."

Macgregor is a retired U.S. Army Colonel and was appointed Senior Advisor to the Acting Secretary of Defense during the Trump administration.

https://rumble.com/v1bakrh-col.-macgregor-ukraine-lost-80-of-its-army-and-is-effectively-a-failed-stat.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Russia+Intel&ep=2
-3 # RE: americaldocmjc 2022-07-08 20:05
Quoting paulattahoe:
Quoting mjc:


The Russian military is a donkey-show.


Wow! With you mjc, a little bit of ignorance goes a long way.

Outnumbered by the Ukrainians Russia has eliminated 80% of the Ukraine Army.

Col. MacGregor: "Ukraine lost 80% of its army and is effectively a failed state."

Macgregor is a retired U.S. Army Colonel and was appointed Senior Advisor to the Acting Secretary of Defense during the Trump administration.

https://rumble.com/v1bakrh-col.-macgregor-ukraine-lost-80-of-its-army-and-is-effectively-a-failed-stat.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Russia+Intel&ep=2



Except everything you've said is wrong, and Macgregor is a clown.

After 4 MONTHS....Russia controls 20% of little Ukraine. And they have ~30k dead to show for it.....and a good percentage of those being contract tankers, killed in their own shitty Russian tanks which cook off (due to ammo stored in the crew compartment) when hit by western anti-tank munitions.
+3 # Looks like mjc is a Brandon supporterpaulattahoe 2022-07-08 20:54
and reads the Brandon CIA-controlled media proven to be 100% lies. You are the "clown" mjc.

If you believe MSM surely you got the jab as well mjc. Maybe that is what's wrong?
-2 # RE: Looks like mjc is a Brandon supportermjc 2022-07-08 21:11
Quoting paulattahoe:
and reads the Brandon CIA-controlled media proven to be 100% lies. You are the "clown" mjc.

If you believe MSM surely you got the jab as well mjc. Maybe that is what's wrong?


Brandon's a turd and and you're an ignorant monkey who slings his name in lieu of a piece of shit against anyone who calls YOU out for being a fool.

Smarten up, dipshit.

YOU'RE the one buying a line of bullshit on this story.
+2 # Screw you Mr. Brandon puppet!paulattahoe 2022-07-08 21:20
The story is out of other places as well. Nice try potty mouth!
+1 # An underwater missile launch cruisercarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-07-08 17:42
https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/07/08/russia-acquired-belgorod-sub-it-carries-six-poseidon-nukes/
MOSCOW ($1=62.90 Russian Rubles) — Officially, the Russian Navy acquired the largest submarine built in 40 years – Belgorod, Oscar II-class. The information was confirmed by the largest shipbuilding enterprise in Russia – Sevmash.
The Belgorod submarine is a nuclear submarine, and its construction began nearly three years ago – in 2019. The length of the submarine is 184 m and its displacement is 14,700/17,000 tonnes surfaced and 24,000/30,000 tonnes submerged. There is currently no official information on her range, but according to open source data, her maximum speed is 32 knots [59 km/h; 37 mph] surfaced.

The main purpose of the Belgorod submarine is to carry six nuclear unmanned underwater vehicles [UUVs] – the Poseidon nuclear torpedoes. During combat, Belgorod can integrate a small nuclear submarine designed for deep-sea diving under its keel. Belgorod also impresses with other key advantages – the integration of a second rescue submarine on Belgorod’s back, as well as the ability to carry a large payload, including independent nuclear power plants.
The armament of the Belgorod nuclear submarine is standard for this class of submarines – torpedoes, cruise missiles, mines. More impressive is the presence of six Poseidon nuclear torpedoes.
About Poseidon UUV

Poseidon is an intercontinental nuclear-powered nuclear-armed autonomous torpedo. The Poseidon is the largest torpedo currently in the world ever developed by any country. The torpedo is 24 meters long and has a diameter of 2 meters. Its speed underwater is remarkable – 70 knots. For people who don’t understand sea speed, 70 knots equals 130 km/h. The torpedo can swim at a depth of 1 km. The propulsion is nuclear, and the warhead it can carry is 2 megatons.
+4 # JoeB-I did that…Jack Box 2022-07-08 16:32
This just pisses me off. Pissing away any and all tools that will be needed later on when they turn to take FUSA down. Well, at least they can’t be turned on us if they are pissed away on the other side of the globe. Pentagon done pissed off their salt-of-the-Earth middle class parents who send their sons and daughters to enlist. Pentagon and Disney are a special kind of stoopid. Pushing their woke crap to the wrong crowd. Good luck hitting recruiting goals now, JCS staff! High school diploma or not, they will not raise manpower this way.
+3 # Austin & Milleypaulattahoe 2022-07-08 16:06
are the NWO woke comedy duo, Laurel & Hardy.

Comedy, War Full Length Film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXNWzpkF0ak
+4 # RE: CLAIM: Ukraine Soldiers SOLD U.S. HIMARS to Chechens . . . who were Russian Army IntelRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-07-08 15:55
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Hilarious!

Brilliant move by Russia - not so good by us.

Well, unless its a poisoned pill.
+1 # "Swamp Yankee Too Tango Charlie"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-08 15:09
1-4 Nine-r Victor Charlie Tango 6 Dark "Black Knight 777 Queen To Bishop 3 Checkmate!" The Ukrainians should have known something was Wrong when "They Saw The Weapon System Buyers Wearing Biden Face Masks."
+1 # "Ukrainian Skunks"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-08 14:51
Smell as Bad as the Old Joe 'Hole' Biden "Having a Run in His Pants." You see Old Joe "Gave Them This Missile Stuff Knowing Full Well Ukraine is the Sale-out Capital of the World" aside from "Being America's Politicians Laundry Account." Point being "Nobody with a Brain would Give that Type Weapon to Ukrainians" but then again "Old Joe Lost His Mind 2 Years Ago." Yet I ask, "What is the Excuse for Congress?"
+2 # Stop bolding your text!Adiff5466 2022-07-08 16:22
Sorry if this comes off wrong, but it’s really hard to read your comments when you bold every sentence. Please use the feature when something is particularly important, opposed to everything you put in quotes AND bold the type.
# RE: Stop bolding your text!TerraHertz 2022-07-08 22:48
Quoting Adiff5466:
Sorry if this comes off wrong, but it’s really hard to read your comments when you bold every sentence. Please use the feature when something is particularly important, opposed to everything you put in quotes AND bold the type.


No no... please don't try to reform such people. Stinky text formatting styles are useful - they let the sane easily avoid reading stuff from people who have some kind of medical condition that prevents self awareness, hence they write in bizarre styles.
+2 # "Powerful Statement"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-09 05:20
Democrats have a "Special Logic."
+4 # Ukrainian Army are Businessmen FirstFaith11 2022-07-08 14:27
Well it looks like Ukrainian army see the value in weapons deals... they are businessmen, before they are soldiers. Russians again have outwitted these idiots. Ukrainian army of traitors, just gave Russia the information on how to defeat them further. Maybe the Ukrainian army is just losing so bad they just stop caring.
+3 # Arms soldDeepwoo 2022-07-08 14:24
There is a report that Russia bought 2 m777 howitzers from Uke troops for less than a penny on the dollar. They also traded canned food for man pads.
+9 # Systems so good I bought 3 more...sixshots 2022-07-08 14:23
Sure it's a nice system but the real bargain is the B-2 Stealth Bomber now selling for 3.3 million in Ukraine.
Better get your order in now before they are all gone.
Just tell them Joe Biden sent you.
+1 # RE: CLAIM: Ukraine Soldiers SOLD U.S. HIMARS to Chechens . . . who were Russian Army IntelEddamnit 2022-07-08 13:35
Easy money!
They are good capitalists.
+2 # Red alert in Syria: Russian fighters bombed the American base Al-TanfWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-07-08 13:24
The Israelis are talking about a dangerous escalation in Syria after the hardening of Moscow's position and the bombing of the American base in Al-Tanf, in the Syria-Iraq-Jordan triangle by two Russian Su-35 fighters and one Su-24.

Indeed, powerful explosions had rocked the US base and the area around the Omar oil field in the eastern province of Deir al-Zour days ago, but no one knew until now exactly what had happened.
US forces located in the Al-Tanf area monitor the most important road in Syria, the M2 Baghdad-Damascus highway, and an area within a radius of 55 kilometers.

"Difficult times are coming in Syria"
Following Ukraine's deployment of Russian general Aleksandr Chayko to Syria, US CENTCOM chief General Michael Erik Kurilla visited the Al Tanf base.
Israeli media emphasize that the "Russia-US hostilities broke out in Northern Syria after the transfer of a key Russian general to Ukraine".Michael Kurila, head of the US Central Command, visited the important US base Al-Tanf, which is located on the border, in the Syria-Iraq-Jordan triangle.

Addressing his soldiers, General Kurilla spoke highly of the Russian administration in Syria and urged the army to prepare for difficult times," Israeli media reported.
According to information, the Russians will push the Americans throughout the country, in an obvious attempt to create unbearable conditions for their presence in the region. General Kurilla said about the new Russian Administration: " This is not the kind of dog that barks and doesn't bite, everything will be the other way around."
Russian jets bombed Al-Tanf. The US administration and the Pentagon in Washington are also seriously concerned by the expansion of cooperation between Russia and Iran in aggressive tactics. On June 18, two Russian Su-35 and one Su-24 jets bombed Al Tanf after notifying the Pentagon just 35 hours in advance to evacuate troops to safety.
Moscow claimed the attack was aimed at the Syrian Maghawir al-Thawra force, a force established by the Americans to fight Islamic extremists. This group is now accused of conducting guerrilla operations against Russian forces based in Syria.
CENTCOM: Prepare for difficult times!
+3 # Armageddon and Apocalypse Rolled into One Big CigarWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-07-08 13:33
The Biden administration decided not to retaliate for the Russian attack, although it was seen as a move by Moscow to redefine the existing red lines between the two powers in Syria. In addition, US military sources note the increase in incidents of Russian fighters flying threateningly close to US aircraft. "The American administration and the Pentagon in Washington are also seriously concerned about the expansion of cooperation between Russia and Iran in the field of offensive tactics ," Israeli media reports. These incidents appear to coincide with the harassment of US warships by Iranian Guard speedboats in the Red Sea and the Gulf. The Pentagon has counted 59 such incidents in recent months.
CENTCOM sources attribute both the expansion of aggressive Russian operations in eastern Syria and their coordination with Iran to the arrival of Russian General Chaiko from Ukraine and his apparent determination to prove his mettle.
Escalation between Russian and US troops in Syria clearly linked to US support for Ukraine.
The more weapons Kyiv gets from NATO, the "hotter" the situation in the Middle East becomes. There is an opinion that Moscow is putting hard pressure on Washington in Syria in order to create conditions for new contacts between the State Department and the Russian Foreign Ministry, especially in the context of the nuclear program of Iran and Syria.
+14 # $40 Billionjimmyc 2022-07-08 13:24
So nice to see how our $40 Billion was so wisely pissed away. Just a big-ass Christmas present. We are fools to be involved in this stupid war.
+14 # Cost of a HIMARSSwamp Yankee 2022-07-08 13:20
Cost is estimated at about $33 Million USD for a HIMARS system. A great deal for RUSSIA at a million. Putin must be smiling a the thought of the stupid and greedy Ukies and Gringos.
+7 # RE: CLAIM: Ukraine Soldiers SOLD U.S. HIMARS to Chechens . . . who were Russian Army IntelGunner 2022-07-08 13:18
God it is ALL so truly fucked guys. . . No other words do it justice.
# RE: CLAIM: Ukraine Soldiers SOLD U.S. HIMARS to Chechens . . . who were Russian Army IntelDean Easterling 2022-07-08 13:15
Easy come easy go!!!
+7 # RE: CLAIM: Ukraine Soldiers SOLD U.S. HIMARS to Chechens . . . who were Russian Army IntelNotthemama 2022-07-08 13:11
Bringing capitalism to the neo nazi socialists.
Is this what they meant?
I am pretty sure every gun runner on the planet just waits for a new round of American military intervention to get their hands on new gear.
+1 # Ukraine is good country!Loki 2022-07-09 00:59
They've been doing this in Ukraine for decades, but especially after 2014 when the O-bomber and his buddies over threw the Ukrainian democratically elected gov't.

 

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