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Finland Moves Closer to Joining NATO after Parliament Vote

Finland inched closer to joining NATO on Wednesday after its major parliamentary groups expressed support for some form of a military alliance as a response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

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-1 # Something bigger going onEddamnit 2022-04-25 22:47
What's really going on?
Why all this very antagonistic talk from the west?
Why all the hate?
They are doing everything in their power to start WW3, why?
Evil has taken hold of this world, is it my fault? Maybe, but the one's in charge had to allow this evil to take hold of them.
If the US government wants WW3 they should just launch the nukes already, won't be many people left to judge them after and they can rewrite history however they wish while hiding in their deep underground bunkers.
The people that survive on the surface will be busy surviving and won't have time for writing history books or worrying about how they may be perceived in the future.
-4 # Finnish Vox Populi: overwhelmingly Finn are in favor of joining NATO.Haarnaś 2022-04-25 18:53
For those smart Alecs here who think that they can make the decision about joining NATO for the Finns, the current public support in Finland for joining NATO is 68% and continues to rise. These are the people who know the Soviets like the backs of their hand (they lost their sovereignty to Russia in 1809 and like Poland won it back in 1917) and have never lowered the guard following the feigned collapse of the Soviet Union.

For Mr. Scurrilous Kook who disparages JR Nyquist, the noted author who has written several more books on the topic than the bad writer wannabe ever will, I would like to point out that Mr. Nyquist has extensive contacts with leading conservative political writers in Central and Eastern Europe and Scandinavia, being of the Nordic stock himself.

We can see a trend in the amount of the Polish military spending which parallels the growth in the size of the Polish army since 2010. The graph which you can find in the second link clearly shows that while the size of the Polish armed forces had gone precipitously down after 1991, the year that the Soviet Union collapsed according to kooks, since 2010 Polish armed forces have been growing in size continuously and it stands at 200 000 now! Why is that? Are they afraid in Poland of Finland invading her and vice versa?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/as-finland-considers-nato-membership-citizens-mobilize-for-an-invasion-by-russia/ar-AAWxgHp

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/POL/poland/military-army-size
-3 # A heebie jeebie question:Dudimus Maximus 2022-04-25 18:47
Izzrayell has it's "Samson Complex"... a doomsday deathswitch scenario in the event of imminent existential annihilation; and uhmm, Russia has this saying, "We don’t need a world without Russia…" or, "“Why Do We Need a World if Russia Is Not In It?”.... somewhat the same... I am wondering how much damage and casualty Russia is going to sustain, before they upset the game board, while they still and because they can. I would. And further, what makes us think they are not moving in that direction even now, and perhaps it's a known conclusion/destination, and just that right now, today, its not GO time, ie, they are not ready to do it , yet, but are lining up the shot, as in "hoooooooold hoooooooold" (we like that one cuz it was Mel being a super patriot) I dont feel like it's time to relax, "When it's time to relax, one beer stands clear (Beer After Beer), if you've got the time, we've got the beer…" i wish it was,,,
-1 # RE: A heebie jeebie question:Eddamnit 2022-04-25 20:22
The Samson option has the nukes prepositioned in major cities around the world.
All they have to do is send the signal.
-4 # Prophecy: Europe Will FallDolph 2022-04-25 17:06
https://444prophecynews.com/next-steps-in-world-war-3-europe-next-then-north-america-urgent-danger-ahead-part-2-handmaid-of-the-most-high/
-2 # The Demise Of The G-20Dolph 2022-04-25 16:36
In addressing the Russian-allied countries within the Eurasian Economic Union, BRICS and the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation today, this report continues, it saw Director Denis Manturov of the Ministry of Industry and Trade urging all of them to dump US Dollars and Euros and switch to their own national currencies, with him stating: “What is happening today in the global economy and in the world gives us a hint about how we need to rebuild our logistics, industrial cooperation, in what directions we can develop our economies…This is de-dollarization, and now we have added de-euroization, that is, the transition to our own currencies in order to be as independent as possible in terms of mutual settlements”—a call for the world to move away from the Western colonial powers that follows global economic experts noting last week: “April 20, 2022 has every chance of going down in the history of modern international relations as the day that led to the sudden demise of the G20, which represents the leading economies of the Western and non-Western world...With their demarches against Russia, Western members of the global club are demolishing its purpose”.
-2 # Boris Johnson: Russian Victory Is Inevitable an Victory IsDolph 2022-04-25 16:27
In truthful articles now appearing like “The West is Very Scared: Russia Wins”, this report notes, it is being noticed that over the past week Western colonial leaders -- like British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who said “A Russian victory is not only possible, it is inevitable” – have retreated into a fantasy world after they were pummeled by the leftist media for telling the truth with comments like “This conflict is about the survival of the West...If Ukraine is allowed to fall, then everything that the Western world stands for will also fall”—is a fantasy world ruled over by Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, who yesterday claimed that the war was unparalleled to any other in the 20th century—a delusional claim quickly met by State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin, who factually stated about the “Special De-Nazification Operation” to liberate Ukraine: “This is a special military operation…If Russia were fighting a full-scale war, it would have been over long ago…This would have happened if we used the United States’ customary carpet bombings and scorched land tactics, repeatedly employed by ‘the world’s most democratic Air Force’ in Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq and Syria...Russian soldiers and officers do not kill civilians, but liberate them, sometimes at the cost of their own lives...Our soldiers are doing their utmost to save peaceful residents”.
-2 # Sanction FailureDolph 2022-04-25 15:49
President Macron warning on Friday that the European Union would not be able to survive next winter without Russian gas—a warning that follows German Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck factually stating: “There is no value-based fossil fuel energy strategy for European countries other than importing all their energy from the United States, Canada or Australia, which is impossible”—and in response to these European Union leaders, it saw Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev stating: “We appreciate the consistency and integrity of our European partners…Especially considering the fact that, according to recent IMF data, Europe will be able to do without our gas for no more than 6 months…But speaking seriously, they won't even last a week”
-1 # RE: Sanction FailureEddamnit 2022-04-25 15:59
Germany starting old long cold nuclear reactors to generate electricity has disaster written all over it.
Most likely even if they can get the reactor up and making steam there is no guarantee the long still turbine or the generator still works. Once cold the windings in the generator begin to corrode and won't make electricity any more and will need to be rewound or replaced. If the turbine is corroded or bearings bad it will need to be replaced.
Big jobs!
No spare parts on the shelf.
# Bryansk missile strikeEddamnit 2022-04-25 15:17
Just saw a video of the missile strike on Bryansk Russia. Looks like the US is now in the game up to their neck.
Very bad.
# Empire of LiesJ Grayman 2022-04-24 20:27
"Major Empire of Lies/NATO Provocation Looms in Ukraine"

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/324374-2022-04-24-major-empire-of-lies-nato-provocation-looms-in-ukraine.htm
+2 # BAD Idea !!!Redlist Renegade 2022-04-24 17:22
Residents of Finland , prepare to bend over and Kiss Your Ass Goodbye SOON !!!
-9 # RE: BAD Idea !!!mjc 2022-04-24 20:40
Quoting Redlist Renegade:
Residents of Finland , prepare to bend over and Kiss Your Ass Goodbye SOON !!!

They WILL join NATO this year.

Russia won't do a damned thing about it.
They have their red-lines.
We have our red-lines.

NATO member or not......NATO WILL commit troops if Russia invades Finland.

They've also 'been there' before in war against Finland, in the 'Winter War' - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Russia's already having the tar beaten out of them in Ukraine.

War with Finland is the LAST thing they need.
-3 # RE: BAD Idea !!!Eddamnit 2022-04-24 23:06
Why go after the tail of the snake?
-5 # RE: BAD Idea !!!mjc 2022-04-24 22:59
And Boo hoo hoo...... the Russians had their asses handed to them by the Finns in 'The Winter War'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

340K Finns killed.....vs 760k Soviets.
Finns lost 32 tanks......USSR lost 4000.
Finns lost 114 aircraft.......USSR lost 4000.

See a pattern here? Bueller?

The Finns beat the TAR out of the USSR.
Ukraine IS beating the TAR out of the USSR.

The common mistake for the USSR/Russia (in both cases) was

- underestimating the morale ("To the Death!") of the defenders, vs the morale of their conscript/slave-labor troops
- believing their OWN bullshit. It doesn't matter if you say you've lost 100 tanks and the defenders have lost 1000. That is to keep YOUR OWN citizens from striing your officials up IN THE STREEts. When YOU lose 800 tanks, the 'enemy' loses 400......and YOU proceed on that......YOU'RE ASS is on a plate. REALITY matters in the battle......NOT your lies.
-2 # RE: BAD Idea !!!John Galt 2022-04-25 07:47
Quoting mjc:
And Boo hoo hoo...... the Russians had their asses handed to them by the Finns in 'The Winter War'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

340K Finns killed.....vs 760k Soviets.
Finns lost 32 tanks......USSR lost 4000.
Finns lost 114 aircraft.......USSR lost 4000.

See a pattern here? Bueller?

The Finns beat the TAR out of the USSR.
Ukraine IS beating the TAR out of the USSR.

The common mistake for the USSR/Russia (in both cases) was

- underestimating the morale ("To the Death!") of the defenders, vs the morale of their conscript/slave-labor troops
- believing their OWN bullshit. It doesn't matter if you say you've lost 100 tanks and the defenders have lost 1000. That is to keep YOUR OWN citizens from striing your officials up IN THE STREEts. When YOU lose 800 tanks, the 'enemy' loses 400......and YOU proceed on that......YOU'RE ASS is on a plate. REALITY matters in the battle......NOT your lies.


One difference: today Russia has nukes. Why waste troops and equipment when you can drop a half dozen 800 kiloton warheads on their capitol?
-2 # RE: BAD Idea !!!mjc 2022-04-25 20:36
Quoting John Galt:

One difference: today Russia has nukes. Why waste troops and equipment when you can drop a half dozen 800 kiloton warheads on their capitol?

Surely.....a cunning plan! When they get their asses hande to them again, they'll just drop a half dozen nukes and everyone play nice.....and not kill the rabid dog. That's how that works, right?
+2 # Not the onlyJohn Jones 2022-04-25 08:45
Not the only difference. The Winter War was right after Stalin's purge of the officer Corps and was very ill-advised against a motivated Finnish defense. Finland is not the same country they were. Like the rest of Europe they have gone woke, they recently jailed a Finnish politician quoting the Bible because it was hate speech. Also, is Russia really getting beat in Ukraine? Don't go on the silly projections of Russia winning in 48hrs, go by who is controlling the initiative and taking their current objectives...that is Russia.
-3 # When Russia Crosses NATO's red line...Dolph 2022-04-25 16:08
...it will be all out WW III not Helsinki. Russia has out foxed NATO so far as the sanctions have failed, the Ruble is solid and America sells out our reserve fuel and dwindles our military assets.This will continue because the elites plan is to destroy America from within. Didn't Stalin say something about us selling Russia the rope to hang us with? We should've listened to Tail-gunner Joe McCarthy.
-3 # RE: When Russia Crosses NATO's red line...Eddamnit 2022-04-25 16:19
But what happens when NATO crosses Russia's "Red Line"?
I doubt this missile strike on the oil facilities in Russia was launched from Ukraine and the accuracy of the strikes has USA written all over it.
These hits were like 100 miles deep into Russian territory.
Seems like a cruise missile strike and the missile could have been launched from Poland and steered into Ukraine airspace before hitting Russia to make it appear that it was launched from Ukraine.
-1 # RE: Not the onlyForrest Mosby 2022-04-25 15:53
Quoting Johnny Rotten:
Not the only difference. The Winter War was right after Stalin's purge of the officer Corps and was very ill-advised against a motivated Finnish defense. Finland is not the same country they were. Like the rest of Europe they have gone woke, they recently jailed a Finnish politician quoting the Bible because it was hate speech. Also, is Russia really getting beat in Ukraine? Don't go on the silly projections of Russia winning in 48hrs, go by who is controlling the initiative and taking their current objectives...that is Russia.


Plus the Finnish Ski Troops didnt have to run from helicopter gunships after their attacksj
# I Sure Hope Russia DoesntForrest Mosby 2022-04-24 16:11
Purge all the Karelian Bear Dog bloodlines when he stomps them…Only good thing I know about Finland is their bear dogs
-1 # RE: I Sure Hope Russia DoesntRedlist Renegade 2022-04-25 14:49
And GREAT bands like Nightwish !!!
# RE: Finland Moves Closer to Joining NATO after Parliament VoteEddamnit 2022-04-24 16:00
Putin is Russia's JFK.
Without the Bay of Pigs disaster.
-6 # Not by a long shot. JFK was a Roman Catholic and although he had a weakness for the fair sex,Haarnaś 2022-04-24 17:45
Quoting Eddamnit:
Putin is Russia's JFK.
Without the Bay of Pigs disaster.

he did pray the Holy Rosary, including on the day he was assassinated by Mossad, DBG, LJB, JEH, FBI, Giancana, and eight CIA-trained Cuban snipers et al. On that fateful day he also want to confession, attended the morning Holy Mass and worthily took a communion Eucharist on his tongue. He did what heretics here refer to as "get right with God" but what obviously is not the same thing and in heretics' case fails to accomplish the saving of the soul!
+5 # RE: Not by a long shot. JFK was a Roman Catholic and although he had a weakness for the fair sex,Eddamnit 2022-04-24 20:08
My point is that Putin is doing what JFK did regarding missiles in our back yard.

Save your filthy religious crap for Sunday school.
-5 # You idiot, this forum is the Sunday schoolHaarnaś 2022-04-24 21:08
Quoting Eddamnit:
My point is that Putin is doing what JFK did regarding missiles in our back yard.

Save your filthy religious crap for Sunday school.

not only today since it is Sunday, but the rest of the week. Just check all the religious heretical nonsense that Unconverted Catholics publish here all week long and their citation are all wrong! Who the HELL are you to deny me? Another heretical blowhard skeptic, agnostic, I do not care. You have no administrative rights!
-3 # RE: You idiot, this forum is the Sunday schoolEddamnit 2022-04-24 23:04
Filthy Abrahamists.
Thousands of sects all serving the Wicked One.
-3 # Genius! One Holy Roman Catholic Church and 47 000 heretical sects worldwide including 4000 different Lutheran Churches in Germany.Haarnaś 2022-04-25 07:25
Quoting Eddamnit:
Filthy Abrahamists.
Thousands of sects all serving the Wicked One.


Thousands of other heretical sects already defunct over the LAST 500 YEARS. Where did Puritans go? How about Huguenots, Shakers? Puritans almost wiped Quakers OUT in the 17th century in the US when they committed innumerable atrocities on every single newly arrived Quaker , man woman or child. Only the intervention of the Duch Catholic Monarch stopped the carnage,

Thank you for bringing this up!
-4 # RE: Genius! One Holy Roman Catholic Church and 47 000 heretical sects worldwide including 4000 different Lutheran Churches in Germany.Eddamnit 2022-04-25 12:47
Evil since Abraham, Isaac and Jacob .
# HorseshitWilliam 2022-04-24 20:03
JFK eating a nacho chip placed in his mouth by a baby raping Catholic priest won't and DIDNT save his soul. And praying to Mary won't do any good either. With or without the hippie love beads. Maybe just a little more idolatry will do it,,,,,
+2 # RE: HorseshitForrest Mosby 2022-04-24 23:01
Quoting William:
JFK eating a nacho chip placed in his mouth by a baby raping Catholic priest won't and DIDNT save his soul. And praying to Mary won't do any good either. With or without the hippie love beads. Maybe just a little more idolatry will do it,,,,,

I remember when they shot him…most people I remember were commenting on how dignified Jackie looked…Nobody really gave a shit about him or Bobby-not in the South…Most were kinda glad he went until Johnson started his Great Society bullshit to buy the black votes…people wished for JFK back then but it was too late….He flaunted being Irish Catholic when people still temembered his daddy was a bootlegger
# RE: HorseshitRedlist Renegade 2022-04-25 14:54
I still think that he was the Last fairly honest President that we had ., I got to meet him and shake his hand when he was campaigning for the presidency back in 1960 .
-5 # They have a special place in the Pit abyssHaarnaś 2022-04-24 21:30
Quoting William:
JFK eating a nacho chip placed in his mouth by a baby raping Catholic priest won't and DIDNT save his soul. And praying to Mary won't do any good either. With or without the hippie love beads. Maybe just a little more idolatry will do it,,,,,


for blasphemers. It is the third ring of the 7th circle!

-Dante and Virgil proceed through the forest to where the Third Ring of the Seventh Circle begins, and there they find a desert of fire-hot
sand, where flakes of fire burn and fall down unendingly on those who were
violent against God—blasphemers.

Repent and convert!

http://danteworlds.laits.utexas.edu/circle7.html

https://mapofdantesinferno.weebly.com/seventh-circle.html?c=mkt_w_chnl:aff_geo:all_prtnr:sas_subprtnr:1538097_camp:brand_adtype:txtlnk_ag:weebly_lptype:hp_var:358504&sscid=41k6_pqvio
-6 # RE: Not by a long shot. JFK was a Roman Catholic and although he had a weakness for the fair sex,Haarnaś 2022-04-24 17:51
Quoting Haarnaś:
Quoting Eddamnit:
Putin is Russia's JFK.
Without the Bay of Pigs disaster.

he did pray the Holy Rosary, including on the day he was assassinated by Mossad, DBG, LJB, JEH, FBI, Giancana, and eight CIA-trained Cuban snipers et al. !


Fo Converted Catholics only!
Here is the JFK Rosary offered for an auction. One of the best president ever! The only one who knew hot put Mossad and DBG in place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1cGb5pU1ek
+4 # We are discussing warsupporttheblue 2022-04-24 22:07
Not Catholicism. You’re entitled to your beliefs, but please spare us the preaching
-3 # Wrong you are. WE are discussing JFK, the best president ever, who did not just happen to be Catholic!Haarnaś 2022-04-25 07:33
Quoting supporttheblue:
Not Catholicism. You’re entitled to your beliefs, but please spare us the preaching


It was Gods design for a Catholic president to come forward and save the US from Commies in the 60s.
# RE: Wrong you are. WE are discussing JFK, the best president ever, who did not just happen to be Catholic!Forrest Mosby 2022-04-26 08:06
Quoting Haarnaś:
Quoting supporttheblue:
Not Catholicism. You’re entitled to your beliefs, but please spare us the preaching


It was Gods design for a Catholic president to come forward and save the US from Commies in the 60s.


Or for a papist to be taken out to set up LBJ/Great Society/Cloward-Pliven…which is exactly what happened
-5 # Thanks for causeingme to crySamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-04-24 15:39
Thanks Putin for causing me to cry on your holy day you feel good for yourself you think you're a big tough guy and you mess all over me you think it's funny you think it's happy your presidency has been nothing but a ruination for me
-6 # P u t i n you're in my waySamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-04-24 15:24
I love you dearly but you are in my way I find this insulting that you're controlling the New York State lottery when you have sanctions against yourself and Russia you're committing a war of woman and children and families suffering I can see the national security reasons why I don't disagree with anything you've ever done as in office as president I'll tell you one thing you're my way with that lottery hey I'm asking you to stop it I'm somebody you know nothing about and you don't want to know me you can't answer no love it can you I feels totally insulting that the United States is not free and sovereign to even have a lottery safely and I'm asking you to cut it out as a gentleman I'm no threat to you these days I'm totally disgusting of living here and not being free to make to have fun enjoyment to me it's fun to have a chance to win you taking that phone out of it and I think you have a man riding around the country doing new favors and if I were you I would update with him to cut it out with the lottery and that goes to griffo too
-3 # Lottery Numbers, MY SPECIALTY!William 2022-04-24 20:09
I have ALL the willing lottery numbers locked in my safe. Uncle Vladimir sent them to me for safe keeping so they wouldn't be seized by American sanctions. I am more than willing to sell you a month's worth of winning numbers for the right price. Contact me @ yeroutyerfuckingmind.com
-5 # The buddy systemSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-04-24 14:57
The buddy system is still working for a for Ron865 is his number one number for a Sunday afternoon he's working for the track now and all of a sudden all the numbers are coming in and you notice Putin's not saying or doing much he's acting friendly and nice that's what I call the buddy system you have the Ukraine president praying for peace or using Easter trying they're s******* on me doing it everything they can to bring about peace ✌️ I used to be a pretty big heavyweight I don't have no army myself but I'm a pretty big heavyweight in my day probably bigger than Mr Putin himself remember double remember general lebid how he died in the helicopter crash he thought he was important he thought he'd censor me look how far and white they got him he got pretty far ahead and didn't he I'm one of those nobody's they can reach out and touch someone and I don't need money to do it money has nothing to do with it well has nothing to do with the powers I had nothing absolutely nothing I could have been homeless I still run things in Russia and that's the truth they could have happened if they get their piece sitting on me like they are this weekend and they've been doing for 10 years God bless him for it maybe I deserved it but I don't know I haven't done anything wrong I've been a man wanting nothing but good to happen and I'm very very trouble now my mom's in the hospital on a respirator dying and they're bringing in a scumbags numbers when I was her son taking care of her for 18 hours a day over here responsible I couldn't even go out and play tickets tickets not him I feel completely s*** on I feel hostile very very upset giving up game when maybe I should go gamble tonight but just to watch this s*** coming in probably looking like the donut King they went missing and Putin's family maybe from Moscow I can't wait to that presidency ends I can't wait and I am not looking forward to warm fuzzy relations with the USA the way I've been treated with their lottery for 10 years I do not feel fuzzy I do not feel warm about it and I do not feel like cooperating I want things to be quite even more Hardline then they were in Soviet times with worldwide trade I'm sick of the woman crapping on me going out with relations instead doing nervy things to me I feel like our warfare has been declaring on me since 1986 and remember folks I was the good guy in 1989 through 1999 I don't consider myself a good guy anymore and I don't want to be the good guy and I don't want to be a threat either I'm just totally disgusted
-1 # The buddy systemchip 2022-04-24 17:33
Sammy b3368,, are you on hardcore
drugs or do you grow your own weed?
+3 # RE: The buddy systemRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-04-24 15:17
Okay, sure.
-4 # Russian politicians have said the only thing Finland would achieve by joining NATO is the destruction of their country.Haarnaś 2022-04-24 14:43
I have no access to behind-the-scenes discussions and calculations in Finland, which might be very interesting to follow if Hal Turmer can get his hands on it.

Certainty, looking at Central European countries like Poland, the Baltics, Czech Republic, Slovaks, that is all of them with exception of Hungary had lost freedom of pursue their nationalist goals. They are bound by various NATO rules and regulation to keep everyone in place. Those limitations do not somehow seem to affect Turkey much.

Anyway, only Hungary is looking after its own national interest at the present time. Poland and Baltics in particular are no longer independent countries and have to follow the official American/NATO policies. Poland, unlike Hungary no longer has independent press informing public opinion. Just like Italy or Germany, what the public is told is strictly under the CIA control and designed to protect the American interests!

Finland and Sweden may be walking into a trap by joining NATO, although on paper being a part of the block of nation with one billion total population should give one a sense of greater security than being alone. The current population of Russia is only 146 million.

 

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