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"FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 Weeks

A potentially catastrophic situation is emerging that threatens to wipe out the entire supply of diesel engine oil across the United States, leaving the country with no diesel engine oil until 2023.

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# Diesel Oil DealA706 2022-07-03 06:37
I've been buying up the 2.5 gallon jugs at my local O'Reillys avg. $ with sale and rebate offer from Rotella $43.00. The Rotella sale is over and price is now $65.00 per 2.5 gal.
Recently I found 5 gallon buckets of Mobil Delvac 1300 Super Heavy Duty Synthetic Blend Motor Oil 15W-40 - $99.00. Same store.

a 55 gallon drum of the Mobil Diesel oil is around a $1000.00.

Master Mechanic 1988-Present
+2 # It's the DPF stupid--Borrowed from James Carville 1992paulattahoe 2022-06-25 16:43
Just kidding, but... Anybody that's gone into a dealership to pay for their DPF replacement without a defibrillator handy you have my sympathy.

I started off as a Cummins mechanic after high school in the 1960's and currently still own many types of diesel variations at present.

These articles should have read "Necessary DPF motor oil additives gone in 8 weeks".

DPFs require special low-ash oil and additives in the crankcase oil. Yep, the DPF is the batpiss converter and one of the LEAST reliable, most expensive single system on a modern diesel vehicle.

According to the API, “CJ-4 oils are effective at sustaining emission control system durability where particulate filters and other advanced after-treatment systems are used. Optimum protection is provided for the control of catalyst poisoning, particulate filter blocking, engine wear, piston deposits"

It was the introduction of this new engine oil category that enabled DPFs to function efficiently.

DPF blockage is a symptom of mostly improper motor oil along with excessive blowby, over-fueling, and mostly closed emission systems feeding crankcase vapor into the turbo. Pull the intake hose off your turbo and if the compressor blades are dark and discolored you likely have a problem. However, K & N filters with their spray additive on the filter itself will turn the compressor blades dark as well.

As many have said here it's true that you can use most types of motor oil in diesel motors if you discount the DPF. We used Series III 30W Delo "molasses" back in the day. I would use synthetic oil with the DPF and more frequent changes tho.

But, in order to keep the DPF and all the other components of the DPF system protected, the engine oil must have good viscosity control. Oil thins under heat and cheap oil turns into vapor and ends up in the DPF along with the soot to plug the DPF.

Earlier motors like the 7.3 International (Ford Powerstroke) need not worry about this diesel dilemma. I built one of the 7.3s in 1997 with Hypermax components giving about 500 HP and 1200 FPT. The guy hauled trailers with it for well over 700K miles and never had the heads off of the motor using Shell Rotella non-synthetic oil. But, the oil changes were done constantly at 5K to 7K miles.
# I was Oil King abourd the USSUSS Mississinewa (AO 144)MildB 2022-06-25 07:39
We had large oil separators for all used oil aboard to clean it for re-use. I looked at this product for diesel trucks and it looks good.

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Operating at speeds up to 4,000 rpm, Spinner II centrifuges remove both large particles and contaminants as small as one-tenth of a micron. Units are typically self-powered (pump-assisted configurations also available), using fluid pressure to generate centrifugal force 2,000 times greater than gravity. This force extracts solid contaminants from the fluid stream and stores them as a dense, solid cake in a cleanable rotor.

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The Model 3600 is a large-capacity unit which remains in service many times longer than an ordinary media filter. Specific centrifuge maintenance intervals will vary, based on operating conditions and service hours.

Like all Spinner II centrifuges, the Model 3600 is durable and requires little maintenance. There are no costly filter elements to replace and no used elements for disposal. To service the centrifuge, simply remove the cover and empty the dry, compacted contaminants from the reusable rotor.* Model 3600 centrifuges feature quick-clean, three-piece rotors, making service even easier.

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SOLIDS HOLDING CAPACITY: 6,000 cubic centimeters SERVICE PROCEDURE: remove and clean rotor by hand; no special tools required.

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# Additives-MildB 2022-06-25 08:12
#5 · Nov 4, 2018
All additives are in solution. The centrifuge, at best, creates G forces of around 3,000 times the force of gravity and cannot remove additives. It is like sugar mixed with coffee, it cannot be removed once in solution.
Spent additives, when mixed with soot, become additional wear particles and contribute to oil thickening. Only spent additive package in lubricating oil is removed along with soot and other debris by the spinner.

It’s to be remembered that additives deplete, that’s why we change oil. It is also a known fact that the dirtier the oil the quicker the additive pack will destruct. This explains why engine oil burn often stops or decreases and oil lasts longer soon after fitting a SPINNER centrifuge.

I would imagine the "sludge" and impurities become bound with the additives and detergents to help remove it which is what it is supposed to do isn't it? I would be willing to bet you would have the similar results if you tested the "sludge" in your regular spin on filter as well.

Centrifuges are installed on many large diesel engines to control soot. You know, the stuff that destroys your bearings.. I have 400k miles on mine without issue and my oil analysis prove that.

Why would some of the most expensive diesel engines in the world have a centrifuge if it hurt them? (Source https://www.duramaxforum.com/threads/anyone-using-cat-oil-filter-1r-1807.987357/ )

Motor Oil Additives and Modifiers Explained.

Anti-wear additives work a bit differently from friction modifiers. Most of them only become reactive under conditions of extreme temperature or pressure. They react with the surfaces of the metal and form a sacrificial layer on the parts that protect the parts themselves from wear.

One of the oldest and most-popular anti-wear additives is zinc dialkyldithiophosphate (ZDDP). At high temperature and pressure, ZDDP breaks down and forms a phosphate coating on the metal surfaces that protects them from wear. It works so well that it's the main ingredient in many consumer oil supplements.
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The problem is that those same phosphates that protect your engine are murder on a gasoline-powered vehicle's catalytic converter. Even dually-rated diesel engine oils that are also approved for gasoline engines usually contain more ZDDP than I'd personally want in an oil for long-term use in a gasoline engine with a CAT. ZDDP is also toxic to aquatic wildlife, and some environmentalists believe that the collective effect of oil leaked from engines washing from roads into bodies of water can harm fish populations.

My advice is not to add ZDDP nor any other oil additives to your engine's oil. Buy high-quality oil to begin with, and you won't need them. If you have a diesel vehicle, use a high-quality diesel engine oil like Shell Rotella or Mobil Delvac. If you drive a gasoline-powered vehicle, use a high-quality oil made for gasoline engines. Some of the better oils for gasoline engines include Castrol Edge Titanium, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, Mobil 1, and AmazonBasics Synthetic; but once you get to the top shelf, most of the major manufacturers' flagship oils are excellent.

Other chemicals used as anti-wear additives include boron, chlorine, phosphorous, sulfur, zinc, and others. As is the case with ZDDP, these chemicals are added in precise dosages by the oil's manufacturer. Adding additional consumer additives is unlikely to provide any meaningful improvement in protection for average cars driven by average drivers, and may in fact cause more harm than good. My advice, again, is to buy high-quality oil to begin with, change it regularly, and skip the oil supplements. (Source https://motoroilbasics.com/motor-oil-modifiers.php )
-1 # Not as bad as it seemsItolduso 2022-06-24 22:46
It may not be ideal, but, Diesel engines will run just fine on regular 20-40 oil. I have run regular oil in Diesel engines many times without issue. If it comes to shutting down or running oil intended for gas engines, people will run regular oil.
-1 # RE: Not as bad as it seemsmjc 2022-06-25 01:39
Quoting Itolduso:
It may not be ideal, but, Diesel engines will run just fine on regular 20-40 oil. I have run regular oil in Diesel engines many times without issue. If it comes to shutting down or running oil intended for gas engines, people will run regular oil.


For fuck's sake......read your manual.
If it says use 15w-40....IGNORE THE ABOVE.....and use whatever it says.

"C" oil is diesel engine. 'S' oil is gas engine.
https://totalsaudi.com/en/gas-vs-diesel-engine-oil


don't be the douche-bag who recommended using wd-40 instead of engine oil.



Recently, The American Petroleum Institute (API) released a new category specifications: “C” for diesel oil & “S” for gas engines.
# Reality CheckMel 2022-06-24 14:30
Gave a call to a relative with a small long haul trucking company.

Absolutely true but, unfortunately, this is only one of many required items in a squeeze. Looks like a tough patch up ahead.
+1 # RE: Reality CheckBeenThere 2022-06-24 17:47
It is unfathomable to realize just how many people have no idea about the pending massive train wreck that is about to occur!

Best to get those last few wanted/needed items before the other shoe drops!
+1 # Yeap!!!Luis503 2022-06-24 16:51
I did the same thing, I reached out to a friend that has a small trucking company and she confirmed the same thing…
-1 # americaldocamericaldoc 2022-06-24 11:59
Looks like Russia scores again.... we don't have the urea that is needed to make DEF
# RE: americaldocamericaldoc 2022-06-24 12:01
Forgot to paste this information on the shortage above http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/a-warning-about-the-coming-shortages-of-diesel-fuel-diesel-exhaust-fluid-and-diesel-engine-oil/
# SOME CONFIRMATION!Rick Geise 2022-06-24 11:13
After learning about this developing situation 72 hrs ago, I was unable to find what I needed at the local Walmart so I went across the street to a national chain auto parts supplier and his inventory was depleted. The sales person made the unsolicited statement "We are having a hard time getting diesel oil".

I responded. "That is why I am here"!
+1 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 Weeksclove 2022-06-24 10:38
Truckers have come forward to say 10 W 40 works just fine, if not better. It just does not contain ingredients, most of which the gobernment requires.
+4 # There seems to be a LOT of oil options for dieselNHydg 2022-06-24 00:38
Amazon lists many synthetic oils for diesel .......on is the Mobil Delvac .......boasts "the million mile oil" ....... stuff is expensive in normal times ......still not TOO bad. Hmmmmm a MILLION MILES .....I think that is the one I would use ...... I think it would be tough to do a million miles until 2023 .......
+1 # Million miles!1.618 2022-06-24 00:51
Quick calc tells me that at current prices, the fuel alone will be almost a half a million dollars to drive that far!
-3 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 Weeks1.618 2022-06-23 23:24
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# RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 Weeksclove 2022-06-23 21:23
The oil can be homemade from 4 ingredients
-3 # Like LilBirdie says ......NHydg 2022-06-24 00:26
AND .......... you BOAST your "ingredients" ....... SO ....just WHAT are those ........or ..... ARE you just looking for attention ........ Snake Oil Salesman > ????
+4 # RE: Like LilBirdie says ......clove 2022-06-24 10:33
As time marches on, truckers have come forward to say that 10W 40 works just fine. If not better. This is one example of how our country has become bewitched, and sad to say dumbed down. Less is more. And although it is probably illegal to use the 10 W 40, it works....better. Just like fuel without ethanol is better for our cars. We must be prepared to think outside the box. On our own. If the lights go out, the toilets back up, and the water gets turned off. We will have to come up with solutions on our own.
# Aaaah ....GOOD follow upNHydg 2022-06-24 14:49
Like yer sayin' ...... AND ...like all we have been "dumbed" down to the level of "believing in" by the ones in a socialist gov ........... there are alternatives and solutions to everything .......
Hals site brings together ....in most .....good intelligent folks with MOST of the solutions to MOST problems.
# Inquiring minds would like to know???LilBirdie 2022-06-23 22:15
Pray tell, what are those 4 additives?
+2 # RE: Inquiring minds would like to know???clove 2022-06-24 10:22
I got my information from one of Mike Adam's page's. I don't know what the 4 ingredients are. But I am sure the information will quickly be known in the trucking industry. In the mean time, more information has come to light. The younger the person is, the less they remember a simpler time. A time where the government did not require useless ingredients. Truckers have come forward to say that they run their trucks on 10W 40; and their engines run better, no issues for years. I am sure it's illegal lol. Part of the take down plan. Those of us who can remember a time when ethanol was never added to fuel and the lowest octane fuel was 89, will be able to think outside the box, and make simple adjustments to solve problems like this.
# RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 Weekspoodlestix 2022-06-23 20:39
I've heard diesel engines can run on peanut oil, but I don't know how the price of peanut oil compares to the current diesel price.
+1 # DEFdave0975644 2022-06-23 20:25
there have been lots of explanations on the
importance of DEF
but I am not clear whether it is going out of
production or getting very hard to find
it uses totally different chemicals from the
crankcase oil...
+1 # RE: DEFebelfer52 2022-06-23 22:06
multiple issues with DEF. made from urea which union pacific rail is cutting shipments down to the manufacture of DEF, less being made.. also union pacific rail is cutting shipment of DEF to Flying J. flying J distributes 30% of DEF in the USA, but since farm and construction companies get DEF from alt sources your talking about the majority of DEF that is used by OTR trucking. without DEF the engines don't work and all trucks since 2010 have that system. diesel crankcase oil, the topic of this article, requires additives that aren't being made and most OTR, over the road, truck get an oil change every 10 weeks or the engine will burn up. when the oil runs out, likely late august, about 10% of trucks will cease to be usable per week. 2 and half months and no freight trucks... thats everything in modern life to include the chems for clean water and all food and anything else you want and will impact parts and supplies for electric and gas utility companies. without correction there is nothing functional in the USA by Thanksgiving. Buckle up.. and don't forget the green push is now wanting to eliminate the toxic lithium batteries
+6 # CarolCarol A. 2022-06-23 20:15
Big Picture: "Deagel Report:" 2025 250Million
Americans Dead! There's the (1) CV non-vac.
shot to kill; and now (2) a famine, due to the
destruction of so many US food 'factories' (3) add to this the diesel 'destruction' so any food that may be available will be un-attainable.
COMING SOON: (4) DESTRUCTION OF THE DOLLAR! Don't forget that. This will all hit the
fan pretty much at the same time. The few left alive will be killing each other in the streets.
For those who survive, they will be faced with Gates' "cricket" food - But Only if you take the Digital I.D.! "Mark of the Beast."
Worship Jesus, don't take the mark, no matter what it costs you. This world is fading
fast. Eternity is forever. "Revelation 13 & 14"
Almighty God is "loving" - but He will NOT tolerate anyone taking the mark. The mark will turn you into 1/2 A.I., cyborgs. And God's
Son, Jesus, did Not shed His Blood for artificial
intelligence!!!
+2 # RE: CarolForrest Mosby 2022-06-24 05:39
Quoting Carol A.:
Big Picture: "Deagel Report:" 2025 250Million
Americans Dead! There's the (1) CV non-vac.
shot to kill; and now (2) a famine, due to the
destruction of so many US food 'factories' (3) add to this the diesel 'destruction' so any food that may be available will be un-attainable.
COMING SOON: (4) DESTRUCTION OF THE DOLLAR! Don't forget that. This will all hit the
fan pretty much at the same time. The few left alive will be killing each other in the streets.
For those who survive, they will be faced with Gates' "cricket" food - But Only if you take the Digital I.D.! "Mark of the Beast."
Worship Jesus, don't take the mark, no matter what it costs you. This world is fading
fast. Eternity is forever. "Revelation 13 & 14"
Almighty God is "loving" - but He will NOT tolerate anyone taking the mark. The mark will turn you into 1/2 A.I., cyborgs. And God's
Son, Jesus, did Not shed His Blood for artificial
intelligence!!!


Everyone assumed the Deagel numbers came as a result of an EMP…Killing diesel power looks to be doing the same thing
-4 # "Thank You Mr. President"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-06-23 20:10
Your exciting "LEADERSHIP THAT COUNTS" has avowed "A BUILD BACK BETTER AMERICA FROM THE ASHES YOU CREATED ON PURPOSE TO TEACH AMERICANS TO APPRECIATE WHAT THEY ONCE HAD AS A LESSON IN OBJECTIVITY." I have to admit "JOE 'HOLE' BIDEN THE SHIT PANTS DIAPER DEMENTIA GUY HAS MADE AN HISTORICAL DIFFERENCE TEACHING ALL OUR CITIZENS WHAT YOU ONCE HAD IS NOT IMPORTANT AND JUST BE THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU MIGHT GET IN A BREAD LINE." Yes the Old "A-HOLE IS TEACHING US TO BE HUMBLE!" Fact Checker: "THE 25TH AMENDMENT DOESN'T APPLY TO DEMENTIA RIDDLED SHIT PANTS DIAPER GUY JOE 'HOLE' BIDEN."
+4 # RE: "Thank You Mr. President"Forrest Mosby 2022-06-24 05:40
Quoting t.n.kuss@hotmail.com:
Your exciting "LEADERSHIP THAT COUNTS" has avowed "A BUILD BACK BETTER AMERICA FROM THE ASHES YOU CREATED ON PURPOSE TO TEACH AMERICANS TO APPRECIATE WHAT THEY ONCE HAD AS A LESSON IN OBJECTIVITY." I have to admit "JOE 'HOLE' BIDEN THE SHIT PANTS DIAPER DEMENTIA GUY HAS MADE AN HISTORICAL DIFFERENCE TEACHING ALL OUR CITIZENS WHAT YOU ONCE HAD IS NOT IMPORTANT AND JUST BE THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU MIGHT GET IN A BREAD LINE." Yes the Old "A-HOLE IS TEACHING US TO BE HUMBLE!" Fact Checker: "THE 25TH AMENDMENT DOESN'T APPLY TO DEMENTIA RIDDLED SHIT PANTS DIAPER GUY JOE 'HOLE' BIDEN."


Brandon isnt running things..he just puts his signature on papers…his handlers get their orders from bho
# "You Mean"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-06-24 18:31
The Muslim, "MAHDI" known to Christians as "THE ANTI-CHRIST!" Muslim Prophecy states, "HE WOULD RISE TO POWER IN THE WEST AND DESTROY AMERICA FROM WITHIN THEN GOING FORWARD TOO THE MIDDLE EAST AS KING OF THE MUSLIMS." Yeah that's exactly why "SHIT PANTS WAS PUT INTO THE PRESIDENCY WITH LAP DOG KAMALA (BEST MOUTH IN THE WEST)."The Biden Experience "LEADERSHIP THAT COUNTS!" Fact Checker: "AC says 25th Amendment doesn't apply to Dementia Riddled Shit Pant Diaper Man Joe 'Hole' Biden."
+1 # WHO'S ON FIRST?Rick Geise 2022-06-24 11:03
Obama is not at the top of the organizational chart... he is not even that smart?
# "Rageise Your"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-06-25 12:32
A "White Supremacist!" Black is beautiful and "You don't have to be smart." After all "Look At The Old Joe 'Hole' Biden the President Proving You Don't Have To Even Be Able To Think To Hold The Greatest Country On Earth In Your Hands."
+2 # OilFlatfootfrank 2022-06-23 20:00
I read about this in “Natural News today and they used Amazon as an example. Went to Amazon and they had various products available.

D.E.F./Urea is another issue.
+2 # Maybe all BS?uCantSaveYourself 2022-06-23 18:48
Being stockpiled, just not for us?
+1 # Time for a change.Carloisme 2022-06-23 18:00
The Backhoe is getting an "Inframe rebuild" and will need 3 gallons and the dump truck is almost due and that's another 5 gallons. All 15w40. Guess it's off to Sam's Club or Tractor Supply to stock up!!!
+1 # Electricity not so muchfeemeister 2022-06-23 17:07
if you use coal. Ranger Mike said the coal is transported by diesel trains, for coal powered plants. He also mentioned ambulances, firetrucks, besides the obvious. What he did not mention was garbage trucks, which I am assuming are diesel. He said 4 - 8 weeks worth left, but didn't specify a date that started. Could have been a week or two before he found out (or more). SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET TO WORK REALLY FAST AND INVENT A NEW DIESEL OIL THAT IS CHEAP AND AVAILABLE! (You would probably get totally rich!) OH! He was talking about today one of his transportation places that said the trains would be okay, because they run on COAL!!! Somebody behind the times who had no clue they are all diesel now, and the coalman days on the trains are like WAY past! So no trains, no trucks (semis), and no coal powered electric plants (coal delivered by train of course). I think this is a Biden Majeure!
+2 # RE: Electricity not so muchBeenThere 2022-06-23 18:18
Blackrock has a huge hand in all of this........
+4 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksJbRiddle 2022-06-23 17:06
I work for Detroit Diesel, we build diesel engines. Hell I test them. And this is the first I'm hearing about this. I'll look into this tonight at work.
# Any word Riddle?feemeister 2022-06-24 16:42
???
+1 # Detroit DieselCarloisme 2022-06-23 18:08
Hey Riddle. I worked for Metro North and we had a flle of Brookville locomotives with Detroit teir 0 engines in them. Management hated them but I loved them. I thought they were very smooth. German Made. The gaskets for the water cooled exhaust failed and we had one bust a rod due to hydraulic lock. The problem was they put 13,000 hours on an engine and never replaced the coolant. Documents say replace at 5,000 hours. Oh well. They took out the Detroit's and put in Cummings. I retired before we got one back.
+3 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksBruce Oxenford 2022-06-23 15:00
Sanctions have consequences, especially when poorly thought out.
+9 # List of companies and why —Christine 2022-06-23 14:42
Mike Adams (Natural News) compiled list of companies declaring force majeure and the reasons why.

See here - https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-23-diesel-engine-oil-additive-manufacturers-that-have-declared-force-majeure.html#
+1 # Does anyone knowAnonymoussoul123 2022-06-23 14:33
Does anyone know if this diesel shortage would be just in the USA or might it be all around the globe ? Are any countries safe from this event ?
+1 # RE: Does anyone knowPastorK 2022-06-23 16:52
Quoting nglulla:
Does anyone know if this diesel shortage would be just in the USA or might it be all around the globe ? Are any countries safe from this event ?


According to Mike Adams, it appears to be global.
+1 # LetsForrest Mosby 2022-06-23 14:25
Get it on
+6 # Gasoline deliverydicverbo 2022-06-23 14:23
It's a good thing that only gasoline-powered trucks deliver gasoline to stations. Actually, since most of those trucks have diesel engines, how long before even gasoline becomes unavailable?
+1 # RE: Gasoline deliveryForrest Mosby 2022-06-24 05:36
Quoting dicverbo:
It's a good thing that only gasoline-powered trucks deliver gasoline to stations. Actually, since most of those trucks have diesel engines, how long before even gasoline becomes unavailable?


You’re saying that ALL tankers filling the tanks at the local stations are GAS powered?

No they are not
+1 # RE: Gasoline deliverydicverbo 2022-06-24 13:14
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
Quoting dicverbo:
It's a good thing that only gasoline-powered trucks deliver gasoline to stations. Actually, since most of those trucks have diesel engines, how long before even gasoline becomes unavailable?


You’re saying that ALL tankers filling the tanks at the local stations are GAS powered?

No they are not


The first sentence was meant to be sarcastic. I can't remember ever seeing a gasoline-powered truck delivering gasoline. In my experience, I have only seen diesel-powered trucks delivering gasoline. And that's the problem, considering the shortage of diesel engine oil.
+2 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksBeenThere 2022-06-23 14:12
DEF is an additive used in FARM TRACTORS too.....
# DEF ...... its Urea and waterNHydg 2022-06-24 15:12
Someone could work on this one ........
Urea is produced in the kidneys of a mammal ...... hence the name urine ......... urine ..urea
practically the same thing ..... Wikipedia has an interesting definition and description of Urea AND the chemical breakdown ........
Kinda wondering............did all the Politicians get together as one of their schemes to sell back to the peons their piss ...........
The nitrogen in solution, in the Urea, is SUPPOSE to activate the catalytic converters to "neutralize" emissions ......
Piss is basically DEF .......water and urea
+1 # more than just truckstccon00 2022-06-23 14:04
trucks,trains, planes,b oats race engines, turbine take down gear boxes, the list goes on. each one of these one or more of the additives. Zinc; Molybdenum; and phosphates, besides the emulsifiers and anti corrosives ect. ect. its a small world and getting tighter all because of lack of experiance,fore sight, and not eneough education to realise cause and effect of one actions. but they know their pronouns.lets here it for LGBTs liquer,guns, bacon and tits.
+3 # Contrived circularity-tslinger 2022-06-23 13:57
Stock up on DEF- it's in short supply.
Put back some diesel fuel- it's getting too expensive and in short supply.
Get an extra oil change or two, diesel oil will be gone soon.
Translation- Ain't gonna be driving nowhere soon.

Apply to any industry or commodity- we are grinding to a halt. Rev. 18:22-23 is beginning to have a "soon" ring to it. Can't stop what's coming- too far into the weeds now.
+6 # God Is In ControlDolph 2022-06-23 13:53
He uses evil as part of His master plan to bring man to Him without force, He's a gentleman. He used heathen countries like Egypt, Syria, Babylon, Medes Persia, Greece and Rome to chasten Israel when she wandered too far from Him. Jesus defeated Satan at Calvary almost two thousand years ago at the cross but allowed him to continue tempting, deceiving and lying to people for His purposes of testing and developing character but He won't allow Satan to tempt you beyond what you are able to handle, 1Cor.10:13. Positive proof of this is Bible prophecy. Read the Book of Revelation. This is good news! This is how I was saved 43 years ago. I knew there was a communist conspiracy to rule the world before I heard the Bible said the same thing. I knew communism was evil and the MSM was part of the plan. Originally I wondered why big business was part of the problem, aren't all business men conservative? But I gradually understood that most of the elites are corrupt and in bed with the ever-expanding government leading us to communism, which, btw, is Godless or antichrist. Bottom line: if you understand the Bible and the communist conspiracy it shouldn't be so hard to connect the dots which makes the Bible true and opens the door to immortality and a future in the coming millennium and into eternity. Most at this site have a pretty good handle on the present evil conspiracy but are weak on Bible knowledge which was prophesied, btw, in 2Thes.2:1-3. Connect the dots, make Jesus Lord and Savior of your life and relax, make some popcorn and enjoy the rest of the story!
+3 # Yes, He isSnowqueen 2022-06-23 18:25
Good post Dolph. Brings us all back from the ledge and reminds us Who really is in control.
+3 # for years, FOR YEARS!!Dudimus Maximus 2022-06-23 13:25
weve been told... hear ye preppers! get a diesel truck! get a diesel generator,,, GET DIESEL

DIESEL stores for years, diesel is safe, diesel is plentiful.... those in the know, go diesel,
once you go diesel, you'll never go gas.... etc etc etc ,

now whaddyasay? got a dinosaur truck? hey if ya ever wanted one, they may be gonna get reeeeal affordable soon... where's an expert and his opinion, when ya want one?
+1 # DIESEL vs GASOccamsRazor 2022-06-23 15:56
Diesel Engines can go for 350,000 - 1 million miles. Gas will go maybe 200,000. So Diesel was for Longevity, so your generator won't burn out. There is BioDiesel that can be made from Vegetable oil and Algae. Can't do that from Gas, you might be able to melt plastic and get a low grade petrol. Solar would be good so long as there isn't an EMP. The only other things that might work are Methane/natural gas from compost/animal dung or a Wood Gassifier Generaor provided you have the right type of wood that won't tar/gum up the engine.
# artificial engine oilPeter H 2022-06-23 16:52
There may be a way w coconuts
se"the coconut revolution"
boganville was blockaded by Austrlia and indonesia
they fermented coconuts and ran their jeeps on it
-3 # RE: for years, FOR YEARS!!Clintm 2022-06-23 15:47
Quoting Baddbuttski:
weve been told... hear ye preppers! get a diesel truck! get a diesel generator,,, GET DIESEL

DIESEL stores for years, diesel is safe, diesel is plentiful.... those in the know, go diesel,
once you go diesel, you'll never go gas.... etc etc etc ,

now whaddyasay? got a dinosaur truck? hey if ya ever wanted one, they may be gonna get reeeeal affordable soon... where's an expert and his opinion, when ya want one?
dumbass
+2 # RE: for years, FOR YEARS!!BeenThere 2022-06-23 14:15
DEF is an additive that is used in diesel running vehicles manufactured in 2010 and after. If your running something manufactured before 2010 then you don't need DEF.
+2 # The Base ProblemMel 2022-06-23 12:59
The base problem is the companies that make the additives that changes the generic oil into diesel oil. They (supposedly) can no longer source their ingredients to produce the additives...hence, no additives to process normal oil into diesel oil.

A relative owns a smaller long haul trucking company. They confirmed and the oil is getting hard to find and each engine gets a change approximately every month.

Gonna get interesting!
-2 # RE: The Base ProblemEddamnit 2022-06-23 13:04
Perhaps these additives are made in Russia?
+14 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksErfman 2022-06-23 12:49
Stolen elections have consequences.

Anyone who actually did vote for Joe Biden has not right to complain about anything.

They deserve every bit of pain that is coming to them.

Unfortunately, the good people of America who didn't vote for this pervert globalist are suffering also.
+2 # NOBODYDoug Brown 2022-06-23 14:27
Nobody voted for Joe Biden.
Animals can't vote.
# Why Can't They?ItsMePaulaC 2022-06-24 03:46
Apparently a bunch of dead people "voted" for the damned old Jester Joe....so why can't the animals? No shame in his game, ya know.
Let's Go Brandon!
# Is this happening in other countries??dave0975644 2022-06-23 12:48
Latin America, Europe, Africa, India, the Far East,
Australia???
If not, where do they get their chem additives, and
how long before we start importing them here and
driving up the prices worldwide? Futures and
commodity trading markets will get created...

Remember, this is crankcase oil - how often does that
need changed for diesel engines - how long can they
run without a change, or just a top-off if they have to?
AFAIK, DEF is only needed because of EPA rules -
and those can change overnight, or be ignored under
all sorts of emergency orders... Everything will not
stop instantly, but there will be a big wind-down...
+2 # plannedTim421 2022-06-23 13:42
This is what they want. A shutdown to assume total control. No elections. Everything a emergency order
+1 # Defell 2022-06-23 13:05
to run most trucks without Def you have to buy a tuner and have someone who knows how to tune it. Electronics cause it to go into limp mode or not run at all. Most of those tuners that you can do the deletes with have been outlawed by epa and are no longer made.
# DEF and CaliforniaOccamsRazor 2022-06-23 15:59
I hear that California won't allow trucks in (at least big rigs) if they have been Delete to the ports. Or if you have to relocate, your truck might not be allowed to be registered. Not that any of this will matter in a post nuclear war world, but now it could cause you issues too. Best just to get a few extra canisters of DEF. I think I get about 1000 miles while towing per 2-3 gallons. Seems like it goes much longer than than when I am just driving around town. It doesn't go bad, but the effects are diminished the older it is.
-1 # business opportunity!!:Dudimus Maximus 2022-06-23 13:15
Quoting Grahamhome:
to run most trucks without Def you have to buy (or FIND) a tuner and have someone who knows how to tune it.
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+1 # RE: DefEddamnit 2022-06-23 13:11
My brother in law deleted all that stuff on his diesel and I was shocked to see the pile of parts that removed from his truck.
I was talking to another friend yesterday with a diesel truck that he uses to tow his equipment and after his truck being down for a month waiting for some small part he is now going to delete all that stuff on his engine.
# RE: DefJohn Galt 2022-06-23 21:43
Quoting Eddamnit:
My brother in law deleted all that stuff on his diesel and I was shocked to see the pile of parts that removed from his truck.
I was talking to another friend yesterday with a diesel truck that he uses to tow his equipment and after his truck being down for a month waiting for some small part he is now going to delete all that stuff on his engine.


I’ve noticed over the last month or so that my company is getting rid of the Freightliner Cascadia trucks equipped with DEF.
Only 1-2 left on the yard that aren’t equipped with it. Damn shame cuz I prefer Cascadias over Columbias.
+1 # addendum...dave0975644 2022-06-23 12:52
I would also bet that smart bureaucrats are hard at
work writing rules that give them emergency control
of allocations - a la, WWI and WWII...
-1 # RE: addendum...JFY 2022-06-23 13:15
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Those rules have been in place by executive order for decades now. All they have to do is announce a few legal technicalities to implement them.
-3 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksGmcclenon 2022-06-23 12:45
As several have mentioned already - Diesel engines can use oil made for gasoline engines. We are talking about what lubricates the engine internally - not the fuel.

In fact, many large fleets use "Mixed Fleet Oil" that works in both gas and diesel engines. A diesel engine using high quality synthetic oil made for cars will work fine.

If I were the deep state, I would destroy the DEF market because diesel engine computers can tell when you are out of DEF and will SHUT DOWN the engine without it.

This story about no engine oil is most likely a scare tactic.
+3 # I see a lot of expertspaulattahoe 2022-06-23 14:08
on here which proves that a little knowledge is worse than none at all.

The additive packages in diesel motor oil have been formulated to keep the DPF (Diesel Particle Filter) clean and flowing without back pressure.

In addition, the DPF regeneration process from 2007 to present GM, Ford, and Dodge diesel pickups have also been identified as a major cause of excess levels of fuel dilution.

2007+ OEM engines employ an “active” regeneration strategy that includes in-cylinder injection of raw diesel fuel during the piston’s exhaust stroke. Some of the fuel is wiped/washed past the rings and directly into the crankcase, diluting the oil and plugging the DPF. This periodic washing of raw fuel into the oil makes it even more prone to viscosity loss and places the engine at greater risk of abnormal wear.

A lot has changed since the old days when we used Series III Delo 30W oil in diesel motors.

There is a lot more to it and I could go on but the bottom line on modern diesel motors is when the DPF plugs up it will put the motor into "limp mode" with minimum power.

The lack of proper diesel motor oil will put the emissions programs into a tailspin.
-3 # RE: I see a lot of expertsGmcclenon 2022-06-23 18:11
Yes, and postings from someone who is purely theoretical and has no practical experience does not help the world situation.

You clearly know enough to understand that the Particulate Filter is downstream of the exhaust port and the motor oil is below the piston and rings. Meaning that the absolutely miniscule amount of oil blowby that gets past the oil rings is 3rd-order at most in clogging the filter as compared to the diesel soot that is building up.

And if there is any truth to what you say - couldn't you just change the slightly over-diluted oil at 30,000 miles instead of 60,000 miles? And wouldn't that keep our country running. Let me answer for you. Yes and yes.
+1 # RE: I see a lot of expertspaulattahoe 2022-06-23 21:57
Gmcclenon, youngster, you are clearly in way over your head here. Your "yes and yes" answer is purely wishful thinking. Although I wish you were right, I'll try to explain this oil dilemma. I probably have a lot more invested in this oil availability game than you do. I was trained as a Cummins mechanic after high school when I graduated in 1960.

After losing two expensive DPF filters in the Duramax L5P-powered trucks, I needed some information. I finally got ahold of a GM diesel person who seemed knowledgeable about the DPF problem. He believed that the CJ4 Delo 400 "approved diesel oil" we used was the culprit, and I later verified that with others. I immediately changed everything to Shell T6 CK4 full synthetic oil and haven't had a DPF problem since.

I got into diesel engines as the efficiency at that time fascinated me. Clessie Cummins had the closest idea to "regenerative braking" in that period without energy recapture & storage. His engine brake released pressure at the top of the compression stroke by raising the exhaust valve instantly, making the popping noise like an air compressor. My dad took me to Echo Summit at Tahoe when Clessie did the first demonstration of the Cummins Engine Brake with a loaded Sheldon fuel tanker in the late 50's. Unfortunately, I was too young to appreciate what I was watching and meeting Cummins. My dad also had an open four-wheel race car and was acquainted with Clessie as he had one as well.

But unfortunately, Clessie's kids running the Cummins Engine Company thought the idea was worthless. So Clessie teamed up with Jacobs Chuck Company, creating the lucrative Jacobs Brake patent. Sorry, but you remind me of the Cummins kids Gmcclenon.

Elimination of the DPF will solve the oil shortage problem on most class 8 trucks, but unfortunately, the federal laws will need to be changed along with computer deletes.
+6 # Holodomor 2022plasmaglyphs 2022-06-23 12:44
...

Learn from history,,, Before it repeats in our lives..
...
In early 1900's communists overthrew Russia & destroyed ability of people to survive, it was called Death by Starvation,, Lenin's "Holodomor"
In 2022 The Communist-Democrat's Puppet, Pol_Pot-us O'bidEn, is destroying American's ability to survive.
Holodomor 22,, if we don't intervene
...
Greetings Mr Turner,,
Please take this opportunity to educate the American people and the world about the Lenin/ Trotsky Holodomor 1919 +/-,, that has been largely glossed over by the Gentile-smoke screen that was Stalin's actions that are also referred to as the Holodomor..

The Bolshevik Revolution,,, Darkness Descends is the title of one video on the subject.. So many others have been buried..
https://www.goyimtv.tv/v/2202962879/The-Bolshevik-Revolution---Darkness-Descends

The brutality, inhumanity is beyond belief...

A factor in this in-humanity, that has not been deeply explored,, relates to psychological deterioration / alteration during the reduction of our planet's protection from solar & cosmic radiation during solar minimums..

In a video titled Earth without protection part3 ,, Ben Davidson shows a chart of cosmic radiation fluctuation over the decades... The same pattern which we are entering into now was last seen in the ;ate 1800/early 1900,, and he speaks of the psychological consequences..
Where Are We Going? The Fall of Three Shields(3)
https://youtu.be/lmaeF9zjrBI
Earth without Protection
Part 1: https://youtu.be/hilN8eNp930
Part 2: https://youtu.be/wovUYvAX59s
Part 3: This Video
Part 4: https://youtu.be/p4d7naDAsKU

Communism removes God from one of the restraints of bad human behavior,,, and psychological harms from Extreme EMF exposure may have a compounding effect..

What else could explain such brutality which has been buried by western establishments media and educators (indoctrinators)

dzp
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+6 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 Weeksbleedingblue 2022-06-23 12:43
I bought enough oil for a few years of oil changes for my diesel engines because I knew a couple years ago that these shortages will take place.
You better be buying everything you need in your life to sustain you for years if need be. Socks, soap, food, shoes, toothpaste, tooth brushes, dish soap, replacement parts, tires, etc etc etc etc etc, etc
# RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksEddamnit 2022-06-23 12:40
A large percentage of electricity generated where I live comes from diesel generators.
# RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksEddamnit 2022-06-23 12:37
All motor oils have been in short supply for some time now. I used to buy Mobil 1 oil at Costco and they have been totally out of oil for months. My local United Auto Parts store has very little oil on their shelves also.
I've had to resort to buying my motor oil on Amazon.
I wonder if this is part of Biden's "Energy Transition" that he says the US/World is in the middle of? If all the internal combustion engines break down or can't run due to lack of oil everyone will have to switch to electric, ride a bike, public transit or stay home.
A while ago some friends told me to get an electric bike for my granddaughter to ride to and from work and I can now see one in her future.
+2 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksBowlsarefilling 2022-06-23 12:35
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-06-22-red-alert-entire-us-supply-of-diesel-engine-oil-wiped-out.html
+7 # President Wilson Warned UsDolph 2022-06-23 12:31
As history also reminds us, this “hidden society in the real world”, that President Woodrow Wilson described as: “Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately…Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something…They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it”, precedes their global wars of mass human annihilation with wholesale economic destruction—is an economic destruction designed to obliterate all truthful news sources so only official narratives are heard—in the 1970s it saw CIA Director William Colby revealing: “We own everyone of major significance in the major media”—and in the 1980s it saw CIA Director William Casey proclaiming: “We'll know when our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American people believes is false”.
+3 # Not CynicismDoug Brown 2022-06-23 12:41
Sounds off the wall. Rich and pure conspiracy
stuff. But sadly it's true.
Excellent post, Dolph.
+6 # Quick Follow-upDoug Brown 2022-06-23 12:56
Dolph's comment's sought closure.
His trajectory was excellent,
every word true.

Steve Quale's thinking on this subject
answers that question.

Who is the "big guy," so to speak,
and where is he?

The Devil is the "big guy," Satan himself.
Where is he physically located?

According to Steve Quale, the Devil,
who is Satan, is residing on planet earth.

Where?

Under Antarctica. Alive and well.
According to Steve, this nefarious angelic
wannabe is personally orchestrating
the multileveled depopulation events
currently happening upon this earth.
# Thanks Doug, BTW...Dolph 2022-06-23 14:09
... Satan moves between Heaven and Earth but will be thrown out of Heaven at mid-trib, 3 1/2 years from now. He is the accuser of the brethren to Jesus when we sin. Sin gives license for him to attack us, but if we are strong in the Lord no weapon formed against us shall prosper.
-9 # RE: Quick Follow-upEddamnit 2022-06-23 13:02
Under Antarctica? Really?
Quayle is nuts.
# Ignorance On BlastItsMePaulaC 2022-06-24 03:51
You're a newbie aren't you? You're really putting your ignorance on blast with your comments. Maybe take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth.....you just might learn something.
# RE: Ignorance On BlastEddamnit 2022-06-24 11:54
So you believe that Satan is living under Antarctica too? Along with Hitler, a bunch of Nazis and Aliens?
+3 # DieselClintm 2022-06-23 12:30
The world runs on diesel, without diesel engines we are back to the 1820's
# Force MajeurePastorK 2022-06-23 12:17
Has force majeure actually been announced or is it simply being anticipated at this point?
+1 # Some recent FM examplesCarla 2022-06-23 13:30
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Americas Styrenics (AmSty) declares Force Majeure, suffers temporary loss of production capacity for styrene and ethylbenzene

Total Energies declares Force Majeure for North American polypropylene production due to lack of additives

Shell declares Force Majeure due to equipment failure, announces maintenance and reduction of crude oil deliveries

ExxonMobil shutters Neftegas / Sakhalin-1 operations due to sanctions on Russia


https://citizens.news/632372.html
+1 # RE: Force MajeureAvanarts 2022-06-23 12:31
My understanding is that it has been declared and that's why the diesel additives are not being delivered.

What I haven't heard is why Force Majeure was declared.

The shortage of diesel engine oil is already happening. I just talked to a man who said he can't get his normal oil for his diesel pickup. I've heard two reports of different people trying to buy bulk diesel oil and not being able to get as much as they need, as it is being "rationed."
+2 # What is Force MajeureCarla 2022-06-23 13:20
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Quick overview...

Force majeure is a boilerplate clause in many contracts that allows a party to suspend or excuse its performance obligations, without being liable for breach of the contract, when the party cannot perform due to a force majeure event. A force majeure event is generally defined as an event or condition not existing at the time the contract was signed and that was not reasonably foreseeable at such time. These include events such as wars, civil unrest, revolutions, riots, acts of terrorism, strikes, fire, flood, hurricane, typhoon, earthquake, lightning, explosion, acts of state or government action prohibiting or impeding any party from performing its respective obligations.
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+9 # Russia has no need for Nuke'sSmiley1984*! 2022-06-23 12:08
Russia has no need for Nuke's, given time: America, Britain, and Europe, will fall apart anyway.

If this shortage is universal in the west all trans port that uses diesel will stop: trains, boats, and trucks, only electrically powered transport will work, if there is any electricity!

Not forgetting the coming food and fuel hyper inflation due to shortages anyway. Then of course there is the financial collapse to consider and Covid/Vaccine effects.

Have you noticed how many people seem to have blood pressure problems and are being fitted with monitors? Hmm. I wonder why that is!

Any more news on the explosion or situation regarding Lithuania. Israel seems to be deliberately trying to provoke Russia by doing the very thing it was told not to do-attack Damascus Airport!

The World has gone completely MAD!
# ISRAEL IS A MAJOR PLAYERDolph 2022-06-23 14:25
WW III ends in Israel. Russia, Turkey and Iran plus seven other counties attack Israel at Armageddon. Not to mention how Israel has infiltrated the US. Not to mention when we split Israel in July by supporting a two state solution, America will be split down the middle with the Great Lakes forming a sea that extends north east to the Atlantic and down through the Mississippi and Missouri river valleys.
+1 # Well saidpmoore67 2022-06-23 12:34
and you covered all the problems. We have an "everything" crash coming.
+4 # This story is too narrowly focused.AlcoluJohn 2022-06-23 12:06
Quoting Dan Edwards:
"Folks, if a truck can't get diesel, DEF, or fuel filters you will see your selves empty almost over night."

Trucks and trains are just the tip of the diesel-powered iceberg our "titanic" culture is headed for a direct collision with. Virtually ALL farm equipment -- including the combines, tractors, trucks and pickups vital to the coming harvest -- plus the pumps that irrigate many crops, the emergency backup generators that keep phone, internet, broadcasting and climate-control systems working in emergencies, fire trucks, ambulances, service vehicles and even large lawnmowers run on diesel.

No diesel-powered transport = starvation.
No harvest = no food to transport.
No backup power = no modern lifestyle.
No emergency vehicles = no rescue and recovery efforts.

Force majeure is right!
+5 # And what's more ...AlcoluJohn 2022-06-23 12:18
Diesel engines almost exclusively power barges, ships of all sizes, flood-control pumps, most construction equipment, virtually ALL military ground vehicles larger than pickup trucks, and much much more. Without diesel fuel, lubricants and exhaust fluid (DEF), very little can or will be done to keep our economy and our country operational.
# Great LakesPeachey 2022-06-23 12:05
use diesel generators to pump fresh water to communities around them.
+11 # Just A WordDoug Brown 2022-06-23 12:02
If this is true, in all its extremity,
there are many to blame,
but the only ones truly capable of
enacting the necessary change needed,
ARE THE GENERALS.
Biden and his Administration could be forcefully
removed.
The Sanctions apologized for,
and Russia aplologised to.
The police could put bullets in their guns.
The ARMY could stand at attention.
These traitors could be removed

But the military, the protectors of the people,
could stand up.
But like the college professor which has tenure
They DARE NOT SAY A THING.
+1 # Those Generals,oldschool 2022-06-23 13:16
you speak of have sold us out, they are sided with the Administration, They are sold out to the CCP. This NWO takeover cannot be stopped politically. It will only be stopped by divine intervention.
+9 # After hearing thisSrmay72 2022-06-23 12:02
When I heard this I let my friend hear it his sons an owner operator with four trucks after his son said he was only allowed one barrel he thought it was just a slow down but and that on to he has a dedicated run from Indiana to Pennsylvania for a couple months he dead heads home because he can't get a load back. What's sad is when guys like him say it and never sinks in the end is here not coming. You would think haveing your income cut in half before fuel went up now he can only get one barrel of oil to change the oil in 4 trucks they say it like oh well its normal we have been bailed out before. When his dad said no no your not damn well getting it NO FU.KING OIL MEANS NO FUEL NO PARTS NO NOTHING! IT WAS QUIET THEN HE SAID SHIT DAD YOUR RIGHT NOW WHAT THE HELL AM I GOING TO DO I JUST BOUGHT THOSE OTHER 3 TRUCKS LAST YEAR, IT WAS QUIET THEN HE SAID HOW AM I GOING TO TELL MY WIFE????? HELO WHY THE HELL SHOULD YOU HAVE TO TELL YOUR WIFE SHES THE BOOK KEEPER HOW THE HELL DOES IT TAKE A REDNECK CRAFTSMAN TO TELL YOU AND YOU JUST NOW LET IT SINK IN? I SAY THAT BECAUSE TWO MORE CALLS THE SAME EXACT RESPONSE EXCEPT ONE SAID THATS BAD, BUT DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE NEW FLU COVID THATS HITTING PEOPLE THAT GOT THE VACCINE??? HELO I TOLD YOU THAT A YEAR AGO ! THEY THEN SAY I GUESS WE BETTER GET A FEW MORE GROCERIES THATS WHEN YOU SAY IM DONE HANG UP AND WALK OUT OF THE ROOM!
ALL SHITS ASIDE THIS IS THE STATIS OF THE PEOPLE WE LIVE AMONGST. US. Steve quayle has a good story about the government and zombie apocalypse. Regardless how you feel the new numbers of people with at least one shot is "78%" that's 22% left that didn't, for you that down vote everything, if what we have read and seen and mrna technology with graphine oxide BS IF AFTER IT SELF ASSEMBLES , and right when they fear the masses wake up and want to hang them all flip the 5g and turn people into mindless zombies , remember our government don't just draw up plans unless they know it's coming. Now I see the damn zombies already just reread what I heard him saying on the phone. These people got all the jabs and it shows how the hell can you own a business and not see your screwed months ahead unless your f.cking brain cells are totally gone. Walk through a store and watch them state at you THEY KNOW YOUR NOT MARKED IF THE NUMBER IS 78% AND WE ALREADY KNOW 98% OF THE MILITARY ARE MARKED AND ALL WILL AND ARE BEING CONTROLED, "HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT TO FIGHT OFF THAT MANY WALKING DEAD?" FOLKS THAT STORY AT STEVE QUAYLES SITE THEY BELIEVE IN PREWRATH RAPTURE AND THINK THEY WILL DO IT AFTER TO KEEP THOSE LEFT FROM THINKING ABOUT MILLIONS DISAPPEARING, I PRAY FOR A PRETRIB RAPTURE BUT KNOW DEEP DOWN ILL PROBABLY HAVE TO DIE FOR JESUS CHRIST AND IF YOU ARE NOT READY TO DIE TODAY FOR JESUS YOU BETTER GET THAT WAY BECAUSE HELLS BEING UNLEASHED AND "TRUE" BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIANS AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT SO CALLED CHRISTIAN PASTORS WITH MORE MODERATERS LIKE BEGLEY THEN REGULAR SUBS, IM TALKING WAKEING UP PRAYING AND PRAYING AS YOU FALL ASLEEP FOLLOWERS THE TRUE NUMBER IM AFRAID IN THE END WILL BE LESS THEN 1% REMEMBER THE ISIS VIDEOS OF CHRISTIANS BEING BEHEADED, YA THATS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE IN FOR.
IF YOU DONT "KNOW" JESUS CHRIST YOU BETTER GET TO KNOWING HIM
# Biden will fix the problem..Garyhines 2022-06-23 11:37
Hi Hal don't worry Biden shit for brains himself will fix the problem.like everything else has done to this country . everything he touches turns to rust .this the problem with in the problem Hal.we have him or his handlers telling what to do next .this not their intention.their goal is too completely is to destroy your country at whatever means necessary.biden is doing a great job .in the not too distance future you will be under the Communist Chinese government.
+1 # We have beenoldschool 2022-06-23 14:02
under Chinese Communist control for sometime, it has been a stealth operation and a total take over of our government. Most Sheeple just can't see it. Anyone remember September of 2009 at Washington DC Capitol when the Chinese Communist flag was raised alongside the Stars and Stripes by our great and fearless Dictator, Obama ?
# RE: Biden will fix the problem..Gunner 2022-06-23 12:31
Why does it seem like I am the only person talking about how we the pathetic people keep on sitting on the damn sofa, doing NOTHING while we are fucked over at literally every single damn turn?? I know reality really sucks but truly WTF people? Are we going to decide its time to act when the gestapo like bastards are kicking in our doors and blowing our sad ass heads off??
# Right behind you,evolution14 2022-06-23 17:36
what are we going to do right now?
+4 # Even Electrical Power Needs a Traingreenghost1964 2022-06-23 11:37
Trains are also diesel/electric. If the trains can't run.............coal don't get to the power plant, so no electrical power. Reports are already saying some trains can't fill up completely at their terminals, cause lack of diesel on hand. remember over 2 yrs. ago the DEEP STATE said they would starve the Western World of 1. Food, 2. Energy/Fuel, and 3. Electrical Power. The blackouts are coming. War is knocking on our door too.
+5 # Great opportunityBurnit 2022-06-23 11:34
Act fast. Hey what you need before the main stream maggots get word. Thanks, Hal
Once again you have given us a valuable heads up
+11 # TRULY MEAN ITDean Easterling 2022-06-23 11:22
USA, COLLAPSE FROM WITHIN, AND WITHOUT!!! IMO, JUDGEMENT OF GOD ON UNREPENTED SINS OF OUR PEOPLE. One day soon we will pray "GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD" and truly TRULY TRULYMEAN IT.
+5 # Down votesChristine 2022-06-23 11:20
And the trolls have finally woken up this morning it seems.
# What is the relevanceevolution14 2022-06-23 17:27
of up or down voting on this forum? I'm new here.
-1 # I don't get the meaning of trollsDoug Brown 2022-06-23 11:53
Is it akin to disingenuous?
False? Insincere?
What?
There's an element of the subjective, isn't there,
which makes it difficult to know.
What is a troll?
An odd concept really,
I still do not fully understand it's meaning.
-2 # What is a troll?Eddamnit 2022-06-23 12:46
A troll is anyone that says something that someone else doesn't like.
+2 # RE: What is a troll?JFY 2022-06-23 13:19
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With all due respect, that is incorrect. See my comment below.

One thing is a difference of opinion, and another thing entirely is a concerted effort to manipulate the discussion on a comment section.
-3 # RE: What is a troll?Eddamnit 2022-06-23 13:26
Please, in this thread under the article give an example of a "troll" comment.
# RE: What is a troll?JFY 2022-06-23 17:08
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Please read my explanation below.

There are 3 main trolls on this subscriber's section. The rest of us can and do have differing opinions.
-2 # RE: What is a troll?Eddamnit 2022-06-23 18:39
So who are the three main trolls here?
Can you name them?
# RE: What is a troll?JFY 2022-06-24 14:04
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I've done so before. I certainly didn't mention you on the list.
+3 # RE: I don't get the meaning of trollsJFY 2022-06-23 12:31
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A "troll" is a person who works for some organization, usually some government agency but not always, who is sent into an online community or comment section to sow discord in various ways because the people on that comment section do not agree with the official narrative or promote ideas that are considered dangerous to the agenda of said organization.

There are many ways that trolls work, including by posting inflammatory comments that veer the main discussion away from the theme at hand on the board.

Another tool they use is to downvote everyone so that no one can be sure of what the other posters think, thus reducing the effectiveness of interaction between legitimate posters.

In essence, that's what we've been seeing here since the special military operation in ukraine began.
+2 # Thanks,evolution14 2022-06-23 17:32
You answered my recent question.
+1 # Mr Minus Onecarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-06-23 11:40
If I see any I just nix them.
+7 # The Final HourFaith11 2022-06-23 11:11
We are literally watching the accelerated destruction of then U.S. It is amazing all these years we have paid gazillions of dollars to the greatest military in the world to protect us, from our enemies foreign and domestic. Here we sit waiting for the final hour of our destruction. it is so unbelievable. I have faith, hope and I pray that an act of divine intervention happens soon to save us from this evil.
# "I pray that an act of divine intervention happens"Dolph 2022-06-23 12:59
You are experiencing divine intervention!! It's called God's Day Of Wrath. He has watched patiently for nearly two thousand years just as He watched Israel's rebellion, who killed Christ and all the prophets, 1Thes.2:15. Time to wake up and smell the coffee! Those who don't learn from His story are condemned to repeat it.
# So Unbelievable??Dolph 2022-06-23 12:43
Not unbelievable to those who have read the best selling book of all time. It is TOTALLY BELIEVABLE to those who understand that 1/3 of the Bible is prophecy. It is the central theme of the Bible. Good vs. Evil. The sheeple are so blind, so deceived, like little children lost in the dark. WAKE UP!!! Your judgment draweth neigh. You have been conned by Satan. He has made a fool of you. You have failed the final exam unless Jesus, your Creator, is #1 in your life.
-5 # RE: So Unbelievable??Eddamnit 2022-06-23 18:37
The Bible is Satan's book.
+2 # RE: The Final HourGunner 2022-06-23 12:43
Folks it is painfully obvious: We all sit back and allow the criminal govt pukes to pull all of this vile, disgusting, illegal,unconstitutuional nonsense for DECADES now. As long as we can sit home in our fancy homes, watch the trash on Netflix, etc, etc we just think life is grand. Well I hate to break it to you my friends but we are going to be treated like the JUDEN of WWII Germany quite literally!!! And we have been taken over and not 1 damn shot was fired. WTF?
# It's a mad world and it's getting madder!Hope springs 2022-06-23 11:02
Must be Putin. I saw him sneaking a few cans...!
+10 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksJFY 2022-06-23 10:57
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This is the final takedown.

I'm sure that most of those companies, if not all, belong to Blackrock, Vanguard, & co. at some point further upstream.

They're pulling out all the right pieces they control to achieve the total demolition of civilization.

Honestly, with something as basic as this being made scarce, I don't think any amount of prepping will fit the bill. It will only delay the inevitable for everyone, even if for some that may be 2 years down the road.

The only thing that could maybe delay The Final Meltdown would be if some group were to seize power and take control of all the companies that are holding back the goods that are needed for the manufacture of many things, and release them so that the workers could make the necessary items. But I'm certainly not holding my breath for that to happen.

Once the massive wave of deaths and chaos has mostly passed, they (the globalists/zionists) will release all the items that destroyed society so that the few survivors will welcome the zionist's "mashiach", also known as the AC.
+18 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksDan Edwards 2022-06-23 10:57
Folks, if a truck can't get diesel, DEF, or fuel filters you will see your selves empty almost over night.
Flying J and Pilot are warning of shortages of Diesel fuel and diesel exhaust fluid, a new truck will not run without DEF. Diesels use a very high grade of oil with special additives that let a truck run up to 60,000 miles without an oil change. Regular oil will not stand up to the requirements of a large diesel engine.
A major concern for me is fuel filters. They need to be changed anywhere from 10 to 20 thousand miles. If a fuel filter is clogged your truck is not moving anywhere. Supply chain issues could cause problems with fuel filters.
Stuff like this does not happen by accident, someone somewhere is doing this to you and I on purpose.
# Think bigger -- and worse!AlcoluJohn 2022-06-23 12:04
Quoting Dan Edwards:
Folks, if a truck can't get diesel, DEF, or fuel filters you will see your selves empty almost over night.


Trucks and trains are just the tip of the diesel-powered iceberg our "titanic" culture is headed for a direct collision with. Virtually ALL farm equipment -- including the combines, tractors, trucks and pickups vital to the coming harvest -- plus the pumps that irrigate many crops, the emergency backup generators that keep phone, internet, broadcasting and climate-control systems working in emergencies, fire trucks, ambulances, service vehicles and even large lawnmowers run on diesel.

No diesel-powered transport = starvation.
No harvest = no food to transport.
No backup power = no modern lifestyle.
No emergency vehicles = no rescue and recovery efforts.

Force majeure is right!
# RE: Think bigger -- and worse!Eddamnit 2022-06-23 12:52
Much of the electricity where I live is generated by diesel generators.
# All by designd_5 2022-06-23 10:55
Remarkable Admission, Pete Buttigieg Announces Biden Inflation Plan is to Create Increased Dependency State and Apply Socialist Economics, Biden Led Govt to Provide Medicine, Childcare, Housing and Food

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/06/05/remarkable-admission-pete-buttigieg-announces-biden-inflation-plan-is-to-create-increased-dependency-state-and-apply-socialist-economics-biden-led-govt-to-provide-medicine-childcare-housing-and-fo/
-1 # Spend some Gold,oldschool 2022-06-23 10:54
Buy from Russia. :-)
+1 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksNotthemama 2022-06-23 10:49
It's not just the oil additives that are running out.
The base components for drilling and service rigs is running short.
More importantly the base chemicals for cracking in tge refineries is getting hard to get.
If you can't produce the gasoline and diesel at the source, you have much bigger problems than not changing your oil.
On the bright side if you have no fuel then you won't reach max service life of your current engine lubrication.
See, the failure of government has a secondary way to solve the diesel motor oil shortage.
# Good commentSBGlett77 2022-06-23 12:38
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That all stands to reason. Refineries today use a ton of chemicals to break up molecules. Some of these are recycled in the process; others not.

A robust chemical industry is highly interconnected, and even slight disturbances can upset the entire system.
-1 # if ur a gluten free vegan thing...Dudimus Maximus 2022-06-23 10:46
and you have no food.... you will eat what's available. diesels can run using oil that isnt labelled "diesel" the additive pack is best for them, but they will run on alternative oil for an engine lubricant. The air machine wont shut off and strangle us all if a diesel engine runs using an oil of sufficient viscosity and properties, but not labelled "organic diesel oil" ok? go ahead,,, have a fit...
+8 # Yeah, they'll run on it - for awhileSBGlett77 2022-06-23 11:11
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If I had nothing else, I would use a heavy-weight regular oil. But one of the most important special additives in diesel oil is the dispersant. Diesels blow-by large amounts of carbon soot into the crankcase. If this isn't suspended in the oil properly, it forms sludge which will quickly block oil ports, especially the drainback holes in the head, and ruin the engine. So any non-diesel spec oil must be run for much fewer hours, like about 20% of normal, and the valve cover removed at about 25 hours to inspect for sludge.

I run about 18 large diesel engines of different ages on my farm: tractors, combines, and stationary, and I can't afford to mess around with "iffy" oil. The same would go for a semi truck with a $25,000 Cat or DD engine.
# please give an opinionDudimus Maximus 2022-06-23 12:52
Quoting Atomic Scout:
DEF fluid should be in short supply soon as well. The fertilizer industry supplies DEF and we know how that industry has been under attack.
right, DEF fluid has urea in it. We used to bust out cat converters so we could burn leaded gas (early 80's) in our fleet
Can a diesel exhaust system similarly be modified and the computer/circuitry be defeated to run without it?
-1 # agreed. so, you have none: "GO"Dudimus Maximus 2022-06-23 12:48
. it aint gonna be pretty or ideal. none of it.
SELCO:
I remember for the first time seeing and teaching a group of students who considered themselves survivalists and Preppers. After few hours of talking with them my first impression was to tell them, or to yell at them "you are so f*cking dead when SHTF, on second day you are dead!!!“

Of course I did not tell them that, but the point is that their survival mentality and mine were like two completely different worlds.
+2 # More info needed hereCloudNebula 2022-06-23 10:45
Who are the "key manufacturers of these additives", where are they located and why did they cease operations ?
+1 # RE: More info needed hereGunner 2022-06-23 12:51
I believe there are only 2 in the damn world the crap. Shell Rotella is 1 and I forget the other one. It's truly fucked badly.
+1 # Explained hereChristine 2022-06-23 11:10
https://yournews.com/2022/06/22/2364755/mike-adams-entire-u-s-supply-of-diesel-engine-oil-may/

Explains what happened
Need to scroll down to see the article
+5 # GRID DOWN.Charlie Bravo 2022-06-23 10:44
No oil for Diesel Locomotives means no coal for coal-fired power plants... GRID DOWN!
+3 # You can...Gulfcaptain 2022-06-23 10:43
You can run normal engine oil in diesel trucks. Most major brands say in the package that it is safe for diesel engines. HOWEVER most warranties demand that certain types of oil (diesel oil) be used only or the warranty is void. The problem here is that much of the same ingredients in diesel oil are put/used in auto oil. In diesel oil, there is more of it such as detergent.

So if there is a shortage of ingredients for diesel oil, then probably normal auto oil will be having a problem too at some point.
# My guess ..Gulfcaptain 2022-06-23 10:47
Truckers will use normal engine oil and say "screw the warranty, we have to work" This no doubt will drive up the price of ALL motor oil. Best stock up now while it is affordable.
# RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksLambs Servant 2022-06-23 10:41
Get prepared NOW!!
+1 # Diesel oil report from Mike AdamsJoseph 777 2022-06-23 10:40
https://www.brighteon.com/aeef8f40-6235-4290-8018-4c4ce428e3f2
# Just the beginningAtomic Scout 2022-06-23 10:39
DEF fluid should be in short supply soon as well. The fertilizer industry supplies DEF and we know how that industry has been under attack.
-1 # now this is worse- there is no "substitute"Dudimus Maximus 2022-06-23 10:48
Quoting Atomic Scout:
DEF fluid should be in short supply soon as well. The fertilizer industry supplies DEF and we know how that industry has been under attack.
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+1 # Let’s order it all from Chinasupporttheblue 2022-06-23 10:37
Those pricks love us.
# RE: Let’s order it all from ChinaRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-06-23 10:44
:-D
+1 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksRealAmericanPride 2022-06-23 10:35
Well, this ought to shorten the life of all those Diesel engines. I couldn’t imagine driving across the country knowing I am overdue for a oil change before leaving the parking lot.
+1 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 Weekskarlk 2022-06-23 10:32
Don't forget alot of trains are diesel as well
+2 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 Weeksaschnelly 2022-06-23 10:40
Quoting karlk:
Don't forget alot of trains are diesel as well
Trains, Ships, Agriculture Combines & Tractors, Ambulances, Fire Trucks, and... Military Vehicles too!
+6 # Diesel Fuel - what it’s used for?Christine 2022-06-23 10:28
For those who don’t understand just how integral to EVERYTHING diesel fuel actual is.. here is just a start…

“Diesel fuel is used for many tasks help transport nearly all products people consume. Diesel fuel is commonly used in public buses and school buses.

Diesel fuel powers most of the farm and construction equipment in the United States. The construction industry also depends on the power diesel fuel provides. Diesel engines can do demanding construction work, such as lifting steel beams, digging foundations and trenches, drilling wells, paving roads, and moving soil safely and efficiently.

The U.S. military uses diesel fuel in tanks and trucks because diesel fuel is less flammable and less explosive than other fuels. Diesel engines are also less likely to stall than gasoline-fueled engines.

Diesel fuel is also used in diesel engine generators to generate electricity. Many industrial facilities, large buildings, institutional facilities, hospitals, and electric utilities have diesel generators for backup and emergency power supply. Most remote villages in Alaska use diesel generators as the primary source of electricity.”

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/diesel-fuel/use-of-diesel.php
+2 # Two things. Maybe three.Doug Brown 2022-06-23 10:43
1. This is over the head of Biden. He is
oblivious.
2. He doesn't give a shit.
Lastly?
3. He knows full well what this intends.
+2 # OIL. Not FUEL.supporttheblue 2022-06-23 10:38
Thanks for the lesson anyway.
+1 # RE: OIL. Not FUEL.Christine 2022-06-23 10:53
Quoting supporttheblue:
Thanks for the lesson anyway.


You can’t run a Diesel engine without the oil and changing it regularly.

Lots of people only have experience with gas and not diesel. Why I posted that.
+10 # RE: "FORCE MAJEURE" DECLARED - Oil For Diesel Engines Gone in 8 WeeksAvanarts 2022-06-23 10:27
Trains run on diesel too and need those same lubricants for their engines.

 

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