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UPDATED 8:41 AM EST -- "POINT OF NO RETURN" - Kremlin: Russia and the West Have Reached the "Confrontation" Stage

UPDATED 8:41 AM EST -- "POINT OF NO RETURN" - Kremlin: Russia and the West Have Reached the "Confrontation" Stage

The relationship between Russia and the West has reached the confrontation stage, and the sides will have to live in this environment further on, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Pavel Zarubin’s Moscow. Kremlin. Putin program on Rossiya-1 TV channel.

"Well, we are not moving. We have already arrived at a station named ‘Confrontation’, and we have to be reserved, strong, to have underlying strength, because we will have to live in the environment of this confrontation," he said when asked where the relationship between Russia and the West is moving.

UPDATE 8:41 AM EST --

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Ryabkov said just moments ago "US hostile actions & arrogant disregard for #Russia’s legitimate demands for security guarantees, incl non-deployment of strike weapons near the Russian border, non-expansion of NATO, return of its military potential to 1997 level, have brought relations between the USA and Russia to a point of no return."

 

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# Dumitru Duduman,1997Dolph 2022-12-13 20:51
Russian president says to Chinese president, I will give you the land with all it's people but you must free Taiwan of the Americans. Do not fear, we will attack from behind. A voice says, watch where Russians penetrate America, then I saw the words Alaska, Minnesota and Florida. Then the voice spoke again, When America goes to war with China the Russians will strike without warning. The man said, I am the protector of America. America's sin has reached God and He can no longer stand such wickedness. God, however, still has people who worship Him with a clean heart as they do His work. He has prepared a heavenly army to save these people.
# Red Line Was CrossedDolph 2022-12-13 22:30
When those missiles landed at the major, nuclear Russian Air base, south of Moscow last week, I think the Russians knew war was then inevitable. It was time to put in motion the master plan for WW III and meet with China to coordinate all operations. Time to throw the first punch like he had learned on the streets growing up in St. Petersburg.

Parnell's dream of a few months ago revealed the order of events. China would attack Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Guam, Hawaii and lastly a neutron bomb over the USA.

Have you had a serious talk with God lately? Are you born again and led by the Spirit of God? Confessed your sins? Stopped sinning?Romans 8:14; John 3:16; 1John C.1.
# When The Bombs Come Down...Dolph 2022-12-13 21:59
On November 17 Vicki Goforth Parnell received a dream showing Xi Jinping in a strategy room with his top military leaders. There were maps all over the table of electrical grids...

New maps were brought out and Xi begins circling areas with a red marker. He draws a red circle around Taipei...I know he is finalizing his attack on Taiwan. I see bombs going off and ships, submarines and drones off the coast...

Now I see that I'm in space, behind the sun and the big grey rock is here but it's no longer spinning and is held in one space. It once again begins heading toward the earth. When Father, when?

...I see missiles flying in an arch upon a displayed map of our world, laid out suspended in the air, coming down from different locations in Russia heading toward us, America, coming fast. Just before hitting our soil I see a bright light as in a super nova flash across the sky to the East. Now I see lights being pulled from the Earth upwards towards this great light. It happened so quickly then WHOOSH, in an instant, the great light and all the smaller lights from the Earth are gone with it! The missiles and weapons then strike the Earth below and mushroom clouds begin forming everywhere one falls.

I see, all of a sudden, a vision of a revolver... I see the hammer is pulled back and released. I hear, Taiwan is the trigger for this war of the world. Next, I see a lighted room with a hand on the light switch, a beautiful hand of power comes out of nowhere and swipes His hand over the switch. As everything goes dark I hear, "Lights out for your nation of America. That great whore Babylon. Now it's gone!"
(Today's prophecyclub.com)
-1 # Shit meets FanMp 2022-12-13 14:01
Finally
+1 # Im Still [More] ConcernedForrest Mosby 2022-12-13 02:06
W the 10’s of 1000’s of combat troops that have swum over from Mexico in the last 2 years
+3 # American “Civilizational Suicide”Nevada Swede 2022-12-12 20:51
December 12, 2022

By: Sorcha Faal
While Ukraine sends untrained soldiers to die by the hundreds-of-thousands, this report notes, this past week it saw Russian television commentators mocking Socialist Leader Biden for leaving behind a “a decorated Marine hero” for “a black lesbian hooked on drugs”, and factually stating: “A nation that spits on it heroes says a lot about America”—and upon returning to Russia after being swapped in a prisoner exchange that left decorated war hero Paul Whalen imprisoned for spying, while drug criminal WNBA black lesbian Brittney Griner walked free, Russian businessman Viktor Bout observed: “What is happening in the West is simply the suicide of civilization…And, if this suicide is not prevented, at least within the non-Western world, within the world that is not controlled by the Anglo-Saxons, then the whole planet will commit suicide…And it may be happening in all areas, with drugs and LGBT+ among them”.


Source
https://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index4116.htm
+1 # Confrontation becomes "Go loud" when?Jack Finch 2022-12-12 16:28
Depending on what source you believe, the ground in Ukraine will freeze to an adequate degree for cross country mobile operations between early JAN 2023 and FEB 15th. If these forecasts are shown to be accurate we likely have a few more weeks before any serious Russian ground operation commences in Ukraine. We shall see how Mother Nature responds soon enough.
-4 # RE: Confrontation becomes "Go loud" when?mjc 2022-12-12 21:17
Quoting Jack Finch:
Depending on what source you believe, the ground in Ukraine will freeze to an adequate degree for cross country mobile operations between early JAN 2023 and FEB 15th. If these forecasts are shown to be accurate we likely have a few more weeks before any serious Russian ground operation commences in Ukraine. We shall see how Mother Nature responds soon enough.


Early bird gets the worm........

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/12/12/ukrainian-troops-may-be-massing-for-their-fourth-counteroffensive-russian-artillery-is-already-trying-to-stop-them/?sh=29725017761c

"Ukrainian Troops May Be Massing For Their Fourth Counteroffensive. Russian Artillery Is Already Trying To Stop Them.
This widely-anticipated attack—the Zaporizhzhia left hook—would aim to liberate much of southern Ukraine and push Ukrainian troops all the way to the narrow neck of land connecting mainland Ukraine to the Crimean Peninsula, which Russian forces seized in 2014."

Russia's already lost this one....

If they're smart/realistic (and they're not......they're dogmatic and in denial)........they'd let that go. If so....they may hold Donetsk. If not.......they'll lose that also by June .
-1 # Koolaid kidMp 2022-12-13 14:05
Keep drinking the koolaid.
-1 # Re what is going on in BrazilStarDawg 2022-12-12 18:02
https://newspunch.com/brazilian-military-declare-bolsonaro-supreme-commander-of-brazil-as-troops-execute-treasonous-lula-da-silva-officials/
# Well, what can I sayChappyusa1 2022-12-12 15:54
if you read pikes 3rd world war "They will fight until complete exhaustion and everything is spent, burned up or destroyed"

I think the west plan was to deplete all western arms so this fight can go longer and kill and destroy more people and countries.
Remember nothing is by chance.

Also, there is an evil to this beyond man that seems to be controlling this and moving the pieces in place for this fight. This evil wants this and needs it.

NWO wants and needs this fight so it can bring in its new order and burn down the old one.

Just like Cortez burnt his ship because there is no turning back to the old. The world must move forward. And this evil is Satan.
+2 # RE: UPDATED 8:41 AM EST -- "POINT OF NO RETURN" - Kremlin: Russia and the West Have Reached the "Confrontation" StageThe Deplorable Renegade 2022-12-12 13:52
If our weapon stocks are so low now then at some point we’ll have to cut off supplies to Ukraine and then they’ll be forced to seek peace talks with Russia and try to get the best deal they can. This can’t go on forever.
+9 # WW3 Dreamsdaniel_martin 2022-12-12 12:43
I said here many times that the Nuclear War is inevitable, predestined and prophetic. I have Premonitory Dreams, among other paranormalities that I didnt asked for. But everything I dream happens, everytime, and I saw Russia Nuked all USA Mainland cities. No warning, no declaration of war, no eletricity before the explosions (it was at night in my dream). Next Dream Putin told me "London too" and if the rest of World retaliates (after NATO is gone) Russia end the World and win. I saw US Mil crying, and Russia told will spare their lives but will remove their ranks, and told them to start a new live in another country, because America was uninhabitable. I saw American people partying just before the Holocaust, totally unaware of the incoming danger. I saw the Smoke of her Burning would be visible from Central America. Last dream I saw Putin speeching to his Nuclear Trucks soldiers before He Command the Codes to Fire. It was before the Dawn, in The Dark. Both Dreams I had with Putin were in The Dark, which shows the high secrecy of how this war is being planned. In The Bible, the Great Northern Archenemy (Russia) of Babylon (America) attacks her totally undetected.
-1 # This sounds bad butGregg W 2022-12-12 22:04
I was hoping this would be in the daytime. It would be an incredible sight that you won’t see again.

I know that sounds callous. Don’t mean to be. Just speaking honestly. What’s coming is God’s judgment on a sinful nation. He will save His own - whether by death or life.
-1 # RE: WW3 DreamsJFY 2022-12-12 17:28
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Daniel Martin, sorry for this being totally Off Theme, but what is happening in Brazil today? Has martial law been declared yet?
# RE: WW3 DreamsForrest Mosby 2022-12-13 02:06
Quoting JFY:
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Daniel Martin, sorry for this being totally Off Theme, but what is happening in Brazil today? Has martial law been declared yet?


Yes
+2 # Dream about being nukedSuicidedoordavid1 2022-12-12 15:03
I too had a dream a year or so ago about being nuked. I live near New Orleans. In my dream, I woke up from a dead sleep in a very disturbed panic feeling when I felt the ground under the house shaking and rumbling. We do not live in a earthquake zone so I knew this had to be something different. I ran to the front door but before I could get to the front door to open it and see what was happening, a very bright blinding light was coming through the window next to the door. End of dream. I’m saved, I know where I’m going when I die.
+2 # Extremely Interesting.Doug Brown 2022-12-12 14:40
Totally relevant dreams.
If they show anything they show the
contemptuous hatred which
Russia has for the West, ie, it's decadence.
Observation: secret attacks are, according
their perception, are what scum deserve
.
+8 # RE: WW3 Dreamsdaniel_martin 2022-12-12 14:02
dear americans, remember, is totally indifferent to me if you believe in my warnings or not, totally indifferent. I live in Brazil, and we are not Nuclear Targets, we are the main North Hemisphere backup to rebuild mankind. Both sides knows that, thats why there no Nukes in South Hemisphere (and Equador blocks the stream). I said I say Again, I strongly believe the safest NATO places are Greece Portugal Alaska. Maybe British Columbia and North of Canada. Russia takes Alaska back, thas the deal. Worst places US mainland. EU Capitals. I calculated the attack for December 2023. My Rabi also calculated 2023. Im 90% certain of this timing. If you dont leave Mainland you might meet The Creator. As a Watchman Im morally obligated to share my knowledge. Believe me its emotionaly very hard. I dont wish this to no one. Dont put your Nationalism above your Faith in God. Dont love Earth more than Heavens. I have been in the Other side once and let me tell you, this place we live is a prison, nothing more. Theres a wonderful world beyond the stars, so perfect I cant describe. What I saw was a place with the floor like white marble or cristal, armies of very tall bright angels, above them two great thrones, and beside the thrones I saw standing The King of Kings David of Israel. Vision from December 2009. I was there for like half a hour. God bless you all, and farewell
-1 # daniel_martinDoug Brown 2022-12-12 23:52
Fascinating post. Great thinking.
Thank you.
+1 # RE: WW3 Dreamsshirley5520 2022-12-12 16:03
Thank you for sharing your dreams with us. If you are on social media or youtube, please let me know. I believe your dreams are from God, and I take them seriously.
# RE: WW3 Dreamsmjc 2022-12-12 16:51
Quoting shirley5520:
Thank you for sharing your dreams with us. If you are on social media or youtube, please let me know. I believe your dreams are from God, and I take them seriously.


I, also, have had dreams and portents.

In one, I was standing on the bridge of a Worcester class guided missile cruiser (there is no such thing). North Atlantic....gray skies,...dead winter.....and we were EMPTYING the magazines.

Ripple fire. We got off about 60 outbound nukes. I was looking out through binoculars when the first (nuke) cruise missile came in and atomized us.


2nd dream.....

My college roomates and I (formally dressed) were gathered around a 20' long cake, shaped like the USS Iowa.

One roomate then laid down on his stomach........and proceeded to propell himself forward and eat his way through the Iowa, using only the motion of his jaws.

After breaking the 'cake' amidships, he chewed his way into an open hatch into the steam tunnels underneath our residency, and disappeared into the darkness........
+1 # RE: WW3 Dreams389rivka@gmail.com 2022-12-12 17:13
@mjc
Bwahaha…I’ll have what he’s having…lol
-1 # RE: WW3 Dreamsmjc 2022-12-12 17:37
Quoting 389rivka@gmail.com:
@mjc
Bwahaha…I’ll have what he’s having…lol



Hehehe! Caol ila, 12yr...... :)
-1 # Caol ila 12389rivka@gmail.com 2022-12-12 17:52
Not familiar with this in particular ….so I googled
“What does Caol ila 12 taste like?”

Response:

Smoked meat, Honied pear, cinnamon, graham, melon, waxy citrus and light bits of spice, tropical fruit, mint and “oil”.

Question..What was he drinking when he created this concoction?!?!
-1 # RE: Caol ila 12mjc 2022-12-12 18:16
Quoting 389rivka@gmail.com:
Not familiar with this in particular ….so I googled
“What does Caol ila 12 taste like?”

Response:

Smoked meat, Honied pear, cinnamon, graham, melon, waxy citrus and light bits of spice, tropical fruit, mint and “oil”.

Question..What was he drinking when he created this concoction?!?!




A fair question! And, sadly, lost to time.

Hat tip to our forefathers.....who'd put milk in a skin, ride a hundred miles, and drink the congealed mess (butter) at the end of the day. Or who'd smoke barley over peat, make a 'tea' out of it, and then boil off the nuisance water. Giants, but unknown to history.

I'll second the 'smoked meats', pear/cinnamon/spice in the description, fwiw.

It is a 'light' islay scotch (you can taste the peat (i.e. Caol Isla).....rather than just the smoke (Ardbeg).



To your health, lady! And 'bon chance' for us all......
-1 # RE: Caol ila 12389rivka@gmail.com 2022-12-12 18:58
Salud
Prost
Skal
Shalom


*….and Praise the Lord
and pass the ammunition!
+2 # dreamsBoss 2022-12-12 13:28
Be careful when you are dreaming because it is then, in the dark of the night, when demons come to catch ahold of us...just be careful. IMHO God bless you and yours.
+1 # RE: WW3 Dreams389rivka@gmail.com 2022-12-12 13:23
Could the darkness also be an indication of an EMP attack prior…others w/prophetic dreams have mentioned grid down before the final attack..
+5 # Most likely a major holidayHuskerMike 2022-12-12 13:02
Like Christmas, or New Years Eve, or Super Bowl. They know when we are weakest.
+7 # Anyone Interested In Stopping This?tdanella25@gmail.com 2022-12-12 11:46
It seems to me that if people actually believed they could get nuked they would light up the switchboards in Washington. Trouble is they are to arrogant to think anything can happen to them.
+6 # RE: Anyone Interested In Stopping This?389rivka@gmail.com 2022-12-12 11:54
Normalcy bias rears it’s ugly head again…
+5 # RE: UPDATED 8:41 AM EST -- "POINT OF NO RETURN" - Kremlin: Russia and the West Have Reached the "Confrontation" StageGunner 2022-12-12 11:12
It's all a damn set-up to get our asses killed, compliments to this pig criminal US dog shit govt.
+4 # Point of no return?Doug Brown 2022-12-12 11:08
Consequences.
In '91, when Russia capitulated, it renounced
It's previously state enforced atheism.
If
If the West had had its act together, it would
of punced upon this ...
Seen it as a form of rough repentance,
and made the repudiation a form of common
ground...something to build peace upon,
and capitalized upon it as a rich source of
Agreement.
It did not.
The apple was bad, even rotten, even at
that time.
+5 # Fact. The West, even then.Doug Brown 2022-12-12 11:12
The West had left off
acknowledging God, even then.
+10 # yesAvanarts 2022-12-12 11:26
The push against Christians in the USA had started long before the fall of the Soviet Union.
-3 # All you jew hatersgjones7777 2022-12-12 10:40
Are most likely government trolls or bots. Put a sock in it asswipes!
-4 # The Best of Times...WilliamtheResolute 2022-12-12 09:11
The City of London Khazarian Jews must be breaking out the champagne...another war!
+1 # OK, grantedDoug Brown 2022-12-12 12:36
OK, Peskov may not be as clear spoken
as Lavrov or Medvedev, but you get the
Point.
-5 # ShadesofGreenjake 2022-12-12 08:50
It is the fault of both sides Russia and Europe as well as the US. However, the fault lies mostly on the West for refusing to NEGOTIATE.

This looks like WAR but in actual reality this is a massive STING WAG THE DOG operation.

Why because the NEW WORLD ORDER NAZIS want this WAR to be as it appears to be just a WAR.

Thousands of Civilians have died at the hands of both Russia and Ukraine (West). BOTH are GUILTY.

Russia has always planned on taking Ukraine back after the US and Europe illegally overthrew Ukraine's leadership.

Therefore, this isn't about a WAR focused primarily with Ukraine and Russia. This is a war to make the WEST suffer and to exterminate all Ukrainian citizens so that Russia can replace them with Russian citizens.

That is why this WAR has been going on for almost 10 months without a conflict with the WEST. In past wars, Russia has used this same strategy for example WW2 Eastern Europe.

Now the situation is changing. The Russia's are nearly finished with their strategy of extermination with the help of Ukraine Zelensky (a ZIONIST). It is time to up the WAR into EUROPE and begin the final extermination of the citizens in POLAND moving into GERMANY.

So, this war is about a take down of the CHRISTIANS and ALL those who are against TYRANNY.

The NEW WORLD ORDER PLANNED this in advance and the Timeline is to be Completed by the end of 2024.


ONLY our SAVIOR JESUS THE MESSIAH can prevent this DIABOLICAL plan from happening.
+14 # What?WilliamtheResolute 2022-12-12 09:17
My understanding is Putin is the last hope of Christianity...the Western forces are the ones trying to destroy the Christians...Russia has always been a predominately white Christian nation.
-1 # .jake 2022-12-12 17:50
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-1 # You may be correct.Doug Brown 2022-12-12 19:26
Shadesofgreen.
You may be correct.
You are right to be suspect.
Concerning the Russians?
They hate us. They loath us.
We represent the depths of sin man
is capable of falling into.
They look at the diseased personnel
attending Biden. They shudder.
They are repulsed at what they are
seeing in America. Repulsed.
They stare at us in shame.
They see people locked in degradation.
Incapable of shame.
Incapable of repentance.
I've heard Medvedev express his
hatred for these things mentioned.
His hatred of us.
Russia sees America as a 500
year old experiment gone horribly
bad.
Russia...sees America...as
needing destruction.
Like you'd tear down a rotted tree-house.
Suddenly, the prophets say, destruction
Comes upon them
You may be right in not trusting
Putin.
One that seriously wants to kill you
probably should not be exemplified.

..
-1 # So Russia sees the sameGregg W 2022-12-12 22:13
As WE do. Many of us imprisoned in America see things the way the Russians you described do.
+4 # WilliamtheResolute, yes.Doug Brown 2022-12-12 12:43
Correct, upon Russia's sustained
viability hangs the fate of mankind.
If the West succeeds in its war against
God, the bane of WOKE'ness decends
upon mankind,
like permanent black satanic cloud.
+5 # potbellyBilboFraggins 2022-12-12 08:15
this sucks, I wish we weren't at war.
# RE: potbellyWoulf 2022-12-13 04:36
Thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5FPPoLqkCke Police - Synchronicity II
+4 # Seriouslygjones7777 2022-12-12 10:42
It gets worse, much much worse. Get your affairs and relationships in order now. Time is short
+7 # RE: potbellyadino44 2022-12-12 10:15
Quoting BilboFraggins:
this sucks, I wish we weren't at war.

Be patient, it gets worse. Enjoy the day while you can, I wish we weren't either but neither side is going to back off.
+7 # UPDATED 8:41 AM EST -- "POINT OF NO RETURN" - Kremlin: Russia and the West Have Reached the "Confrontation" StageFollowTheeMoreNearly 2022-12-12 10:39
I wish ole Jens, all of NATO, et al had kept their DEATH WISH to themselves. Alas, God is not mocked. Mystery Babylon and her moronic hegemonic henchmen have been "given over" to judgment. It appears none are able to think clearly.
+3 # How Much More?Doug Brown 2022-12-12 12:56
How much more will Russia take?
Ships sunk
Bridges hit
Pipelines destroyed
Malls blown up
And much more....
The question is:
How much more can Russia endure?
How much more?

 

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