Russia warned the U.S. on Thursday that it risked escalating the war in Ukraine if it pushed ahead with plans to equip Kiev with sophisticated air defense missile systems, warning Washington it would face 'consequences.'
Unnamed U.S. officials this week said the Pentagon was preparing to send Patriot missile systems to Ukraine as Russia bombarded its power infrastructure from the air.
Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said the U.S. had 'effectively become a party to the war.'
The transfer of such sophisticated weapons, she added, 'would mean even broader involvement of military personnel in the hostilities and could entail possible consequences.'
She did not specify what those consequences might be.
Senior administration officials on Tuesday said Washington was ready to supply a Patriot missile battery, after Ukraine had asked for more help in shooting down incoming missiles.
The country's infrastructure has been under sustained assault as Russia tries to freeze Ukraine by hitting energy supplies during the bitter winter months.
Operating and maintaining a Patriot battery requires as many as 90 troops, and for months the U.S. has been reluctant to provide the complex system because sending American forces into Ukraine to operate the systems is a nonstarter for the Biden administration.
Even without the presence of U.S. service members to train Ukrainians on the system, concerns remain that deployment of the missiles could provoke Russia or, worse, see a Patriot land inside Russia.
While officials have briefed privately that Biden and Defense Secretary are close to signing off on the plan, the Department of Defense this week declined to comment on the reports.
Russia has already said the Patriot systems would be a legitimate target for its armed forces.
Ukraine has so far been cautious in reacting to the reports. Hanna Maliar, Ukraine's deputy defense minister, told reporters Thursday in Kyiv that the delivery of such weaponry remains 'sensitive not only for Ukraine, but for our partners,' and that only President Volodymyr Zelenskyy or Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov would make any official announcement on such an agreement.
White House and Pentagon leaders have said consistently that providing Ukraine with additional air defenses is a priority, and Patriot missiles have been under consideration for some time.
As the winter closed in and the Russian bombardment of civilian infrastructure escalated, officials said, the idea became a higher priority.
Emergency electricity shutdowns have begun around the country as temperatures drop below freezing.
The state-owned grid operator Ukrenergo warned in a statement on Facebook that damage caused to energy infrastructure by Russian attacks is being compounded by harsh weather, including snow, ice and strong winds.
Maximum temperatures in the capital were forecast to barely climb above freezing heading into the weekend. Even colder weather is expected next week.
The southern Ukrainian city of Kherson was left completely without power following Russian shelling on Thursday, according to Kyrylo Tymoshenko, deputy head of the Ukrainian president's office, who wrote on Telegram. He added that two people were killed in the attacks.
Heavy shelling of the city's Korabelny district was still under way in the afternoon, and Russian shells hit 100 yards from the regional administration building, he said.
Amid the infrastructure attacks and power outages across the country, seven civilians were killed and 19 wounded on Wednesday and Thursday, according to a report issued by the Ukrainian president's office.
The head of Ukraine's eastern Donetsk province, Pavlo Kyrylenko, reported that Russian strikes the previous day had killed two civilians and wounded seven.
Kremlin-backed authorities in the region, which was illegally annexed by Moscow in September, announced that Russia had taken control of 80% of the city of Marinka, seen as critical to Ukrainian hopes of retaking the Russian-held regional capital, Donetsk.
The Moscow-installed mayor of Donetsk, Aleksei Kulemzin, said Thursday that the city center had been hit by 'the most massive strike' since the area came under the control of Russian-backed separatists in 2014.
Writing on Telegram, Kulemzin said 40 Ukrainian rockets struck Donetsk on Thursday morning, noting that multistory residential buildings were hit and that fires broke out at a hospital and university campus.
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Along w/a lack of basic literacy. Russia didn't attack Ukrainevin 2014. The CIA n WEF did.
Most readers here won't waste their time refuting disinformation attempts by trolls. I'm procrastinating over coffee. Heavy snow needs to be cleared from last night.
You can open as many bogus accounts for trolling as you like. No one here will be fooled or cooerced by your lies. We're not brainwashed, brain-damaged Leftists.
part of Russia via a majority vote did so according to stated international laws, which you, Hal, have accurately cited many times. Hold the line, Old Man Turner as you still set the reporting bar extremy high!
And you wonder why they dont want us in bed w the Ukes?
I’ve heard at least 3 prophets that seemed very believable.
Dmitru Duduman
Henry Gruver
And A.A. Allen
Each man saw America attacked and destroyed.
Whether all the globalists are in on it or it comes as a surprise to some. I believe God has said it will happen.
3 prophecy. Agree that these 3
are the most believable.
No one is paying attention that Bill Gates and the globalists quietly conducted a new exercise — ‘Catastrophic Contagion’?
You might vaguely remember, but shortly before the first suspected case of Covid-19 showed up in China, global bureaucrats and academic elites convened for a “global pandemic” exercise; it was known as Event 201?
Event 201 was a 3.5-hour pandemic tabletop exercise that simulated a series of dramatic, scenario-based facilitated discussions, confronting difficult, true-to-life dilemmas associated with response to a hypothetical, but scientifically plausible, pandemic. 15 global business, government, and public health leaders were players in the simulation exercise that highlighted unresolved real-world policy and economic issues that could be solved with sufficient political will, financial investment, and attention now and in the future.
Now, you’re not going to believe this, but the “scenario”:
…simulate an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic. The pathogen and the disease it causes are modeled largely on SARS, but it is more transmissible in the community setting by people with mild symptoms.
Gee, now what a coincidence! I recall an origin story of bat soup from Wuhan wet markets, a virus that looks like SARS, and “asymptomatic” spread….
Now, the same players are back, and recently hosted a new pandemic exercise, albeit it was all very hush-hush. Oddly, I can’t find much about it online, except from Johns Hopkins:
The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, in partnership with WHO and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, conducted Catastrophic Contagion, a pandemic tabletop exercise at the Grand Challenges Annual Meeting in Brussels, Belgium, on October 23, 2022.
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The exercise simulated a series of WHO emergency health advisory board meetings addressing a fictional pandemic set in the near future. Participants grappled with how to respond to an epidemic located in one part of the world that then spread rapidly, becoming a pandemic with a higher fatality rate than COVID-19 and disproportionately affecting children and young people.
Participants were challenged to make urgent policy decisions with limited information in the face of uncertainty….
First of all, this report illustrates one of the biggest obstacles to a free world, a message which is overtly relevant to America: bureaucrats should not be practicing making policy decisions, that responsibility lies in the hands of legislators, all of whom are bound to confines laid forth in the Constitution and respective state constitutions.
Yet, that’s exactly why these sorts of people are pushing for a global “pandemic treaty” to subjugate sovereign nations to the will of a global government.
Secondly, it’s worth noting exactly who the players are for “Catastrophic Contagion”: we have ambassadors from the WHO (the organization leading the charge for the “pandemic treaty”), we have Bill Gates himself, and two of the Event 201 figures (Tom Inglesby and Anita Cicero).
Lastly, we must deduce that this is a harbinger, just like Event 201 was. Klaus Schwab’s Great Reset has not been fully realized, and whether we like it or not, that’s the end goal.
The next “pandemic” is coming, and times like these require a reflection on timeless and grounding truths, like Ben Franklin’s famous 1755 adage: “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Note: Deep State Planning New Bioweapon Release Ahead Of Next WHO Treaty?
Attorney Thomas Renz joins Alex Jones live via Skype to share new intel he’s received from whistleblowers concerning the next bioweapon attack to be released on mankind by the globalist cabal, but first they want the World Health Organization’s treaty to give absolute power over medical emergencies to the U.N?
Renz explained the global establishment is afraid of the people looking into the involvement of the DOD and American intelligence apparatus in the creation of Covid-19.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/breaking-deep-state-planning-new-bioweapon-release-ahead-of-next-who-treaty/
https://www.animatedspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/dr._seuss_horton_hears_a_who__2008_276_poster-1.jpg
Matthew 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
"Vlad Steals The Flower" (2008)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmkNSKVhpmA
JMO.
Note: This is a song written by Jerry Manchas and recorded by Tommy Becker. If you're a fan of Johnny Cash and frustrated by the state of US politics, you'll enjoy this song. Please share with others and let's help inspire change in Washington, DC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzPUV9d9Duc
Wow not a one with krypto?
Hum? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-vK1WAJ0x8
Velasquez discusses his path to DARPA and how it serendipitously led him to inheriting management of a new AI program called Assured Neuro Symbolic Learning and Reasoning (ANSR). He also describes his idea for his next project, which will look at neuro symbolic knowledge transfer to accelerate the adoption of machine learning outcomes within modeling and simulation for military systems.
Can anyone explain it to me? Seriously.
So, Russia does not, now, consider the US/UK a 'party' to the war but if they send Patriot missiles this will fulfill the definition????
Does that happen when the US 'thinks' about sending them, or when they are sent/arrive, or when they're operational, or when Russians get hit by them?
What am I missing?
in the army. Is it any account or is it
overated???
Commonly known as the PAC-3 in the late ‘80’s, the Patriot is a very capable Air Defense missile system with interchangeable warheads. (Take that as you will). Its main focus is to take out enemy aircraft by exploding and sending shrapnel into jet engine intakes, thus crippling enemy aircraft.
What we found during the Gulf War, we knew already from the IHAWK radars. We could track helicopters, jets, flocks of birds (not kidding here) and satellites. But the Patriot system could determine incoming missile trajectory and even intercept them if they went behind mountains or other high structural landmarks. The computer systems track the trajectory and determine the optimal intercept vector. (The word ‘fire’ is not used to launch a missile in our military, unlike TV shows say, ‘fire’ means a fire is burning.)
Coding tracks items in the air, toneburst is an exploding missile, IFF hasn’t changed much, ‘Identify Friend/Foe’
Is it overrated? It, the Patriot system, can track and intercept incoming missiles off and speed, including hypersonic aircraft. The issue is the officer sitting in the ICC, will he react fast enough to take out the inbound aircraft/missile or will he hesitate, like they did in Israel, waiting for permission to fire on inbound Scud missiles?
Think of this as using a bullet to shoot a bullet out of the air, with high accuracy. Can it make a difference? Yes, it can. Will it make a difference? Probably not.
The IHAWK left the launchpad at better than Mach-3, the Patriot is faster yet. (I won’t give details as it is still in operation by our Army personnel.) Let’s just say we had hypersonic Missile systems before anyone else, but due to fuel capacity, range was limited in the ‘80’s.
Other way around.
Patriot development began in 1969. It entered service in 1981.
THAAD was proposed in 1987. It entered service in 2008.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-104_Patriot#cite_note-9
"Designed 1969...
In service Since 1981; initial operational capacity 1984.[1]...."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_High_Altitude_Area_Defense
"The THAAD missile defense concept was proposed in 1987, with a formal request for proposals submitted to industry in 1991.....
In service 2008–present"
THAAD is roughly a 20yr advancement in design, hardware, and in-service date compared to Patriot.
to my inquiry about the Patriot
missile system. Great detailed
Analysis. Definitely answered my
Question.
("Tube-launched, Optically tracked, Wire-guided) anti-tank missile will remain in the U.S. Army's anti-tank arsenal through the mid-2030s. That is impressive given that the weapon system was first developed in the 1960s and has been in service since 1970.
The first generation of the TOW was used to bust North Vietnamese tanks in 1972—the first time ever that American troops fired an American-made missile under wartime conditions. Since then it has been the staple anti-tank guided missile on dozens of different vehicle platforms including the M2/M3 Bradley, COBRA helicopters, and the USMC's LAV-AT. It has been deployed to more than twenty international armed forces and has remained the preferred heavy assault anti-tank weapon system for NATO, coalition, United Nations, and peacekeeping forces around the globe.
Despite the fact that the weapon has been in service for fifty years, which is ancient by some military hardware standards, the TOW has gone through steady improvements since it was first developed by Hughes Aircraft Company. This has included an extended probe for greater standoff and penetration, along with an enhanced flight motor. In the late 1980s, the TOW 2 hardware improvements included a thermal beacon guidance system, while the 2A version gave the capability to defeat reactive armor.
The weapons system is now being produced by Raytheon Systems Company, which in 2010 upgraded the system to a wireless guidance system—thus changing the "W" in TOW from "wire-guided" to "wireless." (big mistake imo, should still have the hand on Analog type, much easier to show another how to steer ) In October 2015 the company also introduced the TOW EagleFire launcher, which could fire the wire-guided as well as wireless radio frequency missiles.
With these new improvements, the TOW has remained an effective and powerful anti-tank weapons platform.
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Wow, not a one with hands on play?
They don't even attempt to hide the corruption. The Democrat thieves have taught them well.
Today the lame duck Democrat congress are hammering out another billion dollar 'omnibus' bill raping the America taxpayer ... and acts like the above, to insert a Patriot missile system, will actually have the potential to cull many more than what the bio-shot ever did!
O~Biden Inc ain't at war with Russia, they are at war with America.
By | Sundance |December 14, 2022:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/12/14/french-social-media-erupts-as-store-clerk-on-avenue-montaigne-reports-zelenskyys-wife-having-e40000-christmas-shopping-spree-in-paris/
Olena Zelenska, wife of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, traveled to Paris France for a three-day visit December 12-14. As reported by Le Monde, “Members of the Ukrainian government will also come, including Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal, and several ministers in charge of reconstruction, including Yulia Svyrydenko (economy), Oleksandr Kubrakov (infrastructure) and German Galushchenko (energy).”
Additionally, the Biden administration is trying to push congress to pass another $38 billion spending package for Ukraine to bring the total spent well over $100 billion.
If the reporting is accurate, the spending spree comes at a bad time optically, as Mrs. Zelenska’s husband Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is simultaneously asking the European Union to provide more financial support for the embattled country.
Additionally, the Biden administration is trying to push congress to pass another $38 billion spending package for Ukraine to bring the total spent well over $100 billion.
Mrs. Zelenskyy Christmas shopping in glitzy Paris stores and dropping €40,000 while her husband bangs his tin cup isn’t exactly a good look.
It is what a man of God does daily.
Lamentations 5
1 Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach.
2 Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens.
3 We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers are as widows.
4 We have drunken our water for money; our wood is sold unto us.
5 Our necks are under persecution: we labour, and have no rest.
tekel,, upharsin". The former United States
Now known as Babylon is fast loosing
Its grip on world hegemony. Events seem
to be escalating rapidly.
Neocons out-of-control, but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch. (Mark 13:37)
BeSureYouAreSaved.com
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/15/ukraine-says-putin-is-preparing-major-offensive-in-new-year
Russians supposedly marching on Kiev in 2023, that was Ukrainian Gen. Zaluzhnyi grifting in (Rothschild's) Economist magazine.
It's all about the money, money, money...
Quote:
Don't believe everything the shit birds, Ukrainian authorities, and Nato says.
Russia's way of thinking is "why waste valuable time, men, money and other resources in taking Kiyv when we can take all the land around it and let the people take care of the Kiyv regime on their own.
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