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Lithium Battery Storage Warehouse BLAZING INFERNO - in France

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A logistics facility which houses thousands of Lithium Batteries is engulfed in a raging inferno in Grand-Couronne, France.

The facility, run by Bolloré Logistics, has caused the evacuation of all people from the surrounding area due to toxic fumes from the burning batteries.

Brief video below shows the magnitude of the fire, which has caused hundreds of firefighters from around the region to be called-in:

As of 4:10 PM EST here in the New York City area, we are receiving reports that the fire near the city of Rouen, has spread to a nearby warehouse housing tires. Plumes of smoke are seen for miles; emergency response teams are asking for additional reinforcements.

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# RE: Lithium Battery Storage Warehouse BLAZING INFERNO - in France — Beetlepumpr 2023-01-17 09:28

.and that's just one flashlight [:>)=

# RE: Lithium Battery Storage Warehouse BLAZING INFERNO - in France — Beetlepumpr 2023-01-17 09:29

a flash of light , get it

# RE: Lithium Battery Storage Warehouse BLAZING INFERNO - in France — Beetlepumpr 2023-01-17 09:24

well that gonna be hard to put out. it will run it's course.

# RE: Lithium Battery Storage Warehouse BLAZING INFERNO - in France — Beetlepumpr 2023-01-17 09:24

well that gonna be hard to put out. it will run it's course.

+1 # Greenies must be upset — MSNews 2023-01-17 07:56

The greenies must be very upset today, watching all that smoke and knowing that poisons are in the air....... but, but, but

SILENCE

is all we hear from the greenies, it doesnt fit their idiotic narrative.

# Green Energy??? — Kevin 2023-01-17 05:03

My understanding is that only about 35% of a Lithium battery can be recycled, and it costs 10 X as much as a new one, so nobody does it and old Lithium EV batteries wind up in storage. This was initially what I thought was in the warehouse.

+2 # RE: Lithium Battery Storage Warehouse BLAZING INFERNO - in France — jrd803 2023-01-16 22:26

Wow! That's a bad combination - lithium batteries and tires! As I recall, the tires in a big fire can melt into a liquid, that also burns.

From a quick search:
1) Small lithium batteries contain very little lithium, so they can be doused with water. To put out large lithium-ion battery fires, use a foam extinguisher containing CO2, powder graphite, ABC dry chemical, or sodium carbonate.
2) U.S. authorities have conducted a substantial amount of research on how to extinguish lithium-ion batteries. In 2013, the Fire Protection Research Foundation — sponsored by the U.S. Energy Department — found that water can be used to put out a burning lithium-ion battery.

But how much water would be needed is the question, IMO.

# 10,000 to 20,000 gallons — codyshrader 2023-01-18 10:23

.... Suggested for a car fire.

-1 # RE: Lithium Battery Storage Warehouse BLAZING INFERNO - in France — Eddamnit 2023-01-17 00:45

Graphite is a conductor.

# RE: Lithium Battery Storage Warehouse BLAZING INFERNO - in France — Kevin 2023-01-17 05:04

Quoting Eddamnit:

Graphite is a conductor.

Not to mention water.

+2 # RE: Lithium Battery Storage Warehouse BLAZING INFERNO - in France — Eddamnit 2023-01-16 22:20

Lithium is a dangerous psychoactive element.
Everyone down wind is poisoned.

+7 # Does this mean... — Adiff5466 2023-01-16 20:32

My Tesla won’t be delivered this month? Darn. (for those without a sense of humor, no I don’t have one, nor could you pay me enough to drive one)

# RE: Does this mean... — Kevin 2023-01-17 04:57

Quoting Adiff5466:

My Tesla won’t be delivered this month? Darn. (for those without a sense of humor, no I don’t have one, nor could you pay me enough to drive one)

If electric vehicles are the answer, what is the question?

# RE: Does this mean... — Eddamnit 2023-01-17 00:43

I was over at a friends house last year and a Tesla crashed right in front of his house, when the fire and rescue services they wouldn't go anywhere near the car until they could make sure the battery was disconnected and safe.
They were all standing around for a half hour not knowing what to do.
Fortunately the battery never shorted and burned.
Can't put out an electrical fire with water...

+4 # What — Woulf 2023-01-16 21:40

You don't like driving at 75 mph as a "rolling fireball"?

+5 # Lithium batteries — EmptyNester 2023-01-16 19:12

These lithium batteries are a huge fire risk because of thermal runaway and because you can’t put the fire out with water. I can’t believe the insurance companies haven’t come in and outright banned their use until technology can catch up to prevent thermal runaway! As these batteries get larger and are used in more continuous charge/discharge cycles, they are overheating. When a firefighter shows up no splashes water on it to extinguish, you get explosions. The fire protection industry is working hard to come up with new codes and such, and the battery companies are working hard to find a way to deal with all that heat. Until technology can handle the heat, we are going to burn everything to the ground before we ever convert everything to electric! Many jurisdictions are already banning the storage of e-bikes, e-cars, any vehicle using lithium batteries in their properties because of the huge risk of fires. I’m in this industry and I see this every single day, all the photos of the fires, the studies, seminars to explain and train, etc. The insurance companies is what drives all of our building codes and vehicles, too. Maybe they will grow tired of paying out all those claims and outright refuse to insure. OOh, those tires will be smelling nasty if they start burning, and that will be a tough fire to put out by itself, and toxic fumes!

# I worked in development at 3M Company on lithium battery research — NHydg 2023-01-16 23:40

If the battery is constructed properly it is totally forgiving to self ignition when exposed to oxygen . 3M had developed a method that allowed a lithium battery to be ripped open without a fire danger ....... the lithium was sealed in a gel that kept it from being exposed ....... however , I was not on any project to test the battery to a fire hazard ........ not sure there .....
The 3M Batteries were magnitudes better quality than the .....then best Japanese battery.
That was 22 years ago ...... I am sure the technology has come further now ....... hmmmm

+6 # █▓▒░ BLAZING INFERNO ░▒▓█ — Palehorse 2023-01-16 18:55

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Looks like a parking lot from the future, Greta Thunberg style.

# RE: █▓▒░ BLAZING INFERNO ░▒▓█ — Kevin 2023-01-17 05:06

Quoting Palehorse:

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Looks like a parking lot from the future, Greta Thunberg style.

Wish I could up-vote this more!

+5 # RE: Lithium Battery Storage Warehouse BLAZING INFERNO - in France — RockyMountainBeerMan 2023-01-16 18:47

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All the kids that mined that lithium are going to be mad!
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+1 # Well, well! — Man of the Atom 2023-01-16 18:33

You see it does not take an electric vehicle or a cell phone to start a lithium ion battery fire. How about that!

# oh boy — rugerwild 2023-01-16 18:11

i hope all of the migrants are safe

-1 # Time for a new/old Idea. — MildB 2023-01-16 17:14

~
137-year-old idea could be a viable lithium-ion battery substitute.

Zinc bromine batteries are proving quite efficient and much safer.

https://interestingengineering.com/video/batteries-137-year-old-invention

+9 # That's a hazmat scene — unixguru24 2023-01-16 16:26

They're gonna have a wonderful time putting that mess out.

# RE: That's a hazmat scene — Kevin 2023-01-17 05:08

Quoting unixguru24:

They're gonna have a wonderful time putting that mess out.

Yes, and if we have learned anything from history, it is that we have learned nothing from history!

+2 # Inherently unstable ? — SBGlett77 2023-01-16 16:22

Has a way been developed to keep these from developing an internal discharge and bursting into flame ? Otherwise, I need to rethink even where my small lithium batteries are stored. If they are near other combustibles, watch out.

# RE: Inherently unstable ? — Kevin 2023-01-17 05:12

Quoting SBGlett77:

Has a way been developed to keep these from developing an internal discharge and bursting into flame ? Otherwise, I need to rethink even where my small lithium batteries are stored. If they are near other combustibles, watch out.

I had a new, fully charged, 12 v LiFePO4 battery go thermal runaway and fill my house with smoke. It melted the plastic case. It was never connected to anything other that an appropriate charger for the initial charge.

Oh, and yes, it was mfg in China.

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