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Putin: "Previous World Order, Won't Return"

Putin: "Previous World Order, Won't Return"

Those who believe that things will go back to the way they were before the outbreak of the conflict in Ukraine are wrong, Russian President Vladimir Putin has said.

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+1 # "Victory"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-06-19 15:45
We'll launch Nukes at "Those Dirty Russ-kies" before "We let Putin Destroy the Ukrainian Nazis' Pay-off System" that was "Designed with You in Mind." We didn't send "BILLIONS TO UKRAINE JUST FOR BREAKFAST." We paid for "SPECIAL SERVICES (CASH PAY BACKS) TO OUR PRESIDENT, CONGRESS, SPECIAL TOP BRASS, OTHER SELECTED AGENCY HEADS TO KEEP YOU SAFE."
-5 # Magnificat, which is still in all the heretical protestant babbles, like the King James version below gets minus 8 rating!Haarnaś 2022-06-19 15:32
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-1-46_1-55/

It is obvious that all you biblical Zionist evangelical morons do not know what is in your babbles, other the most obscure and irrelevant.

Here is the Magnificat from King James (below). By the way a Lutheran who goes by the name JSB composed the 30 min cantata to HVM in 1726. HE was a Great Believer and not a heretic like all of YOU!

All you imbecils who do not recognize the presence of HVM in the real Bible should call the publisher of the King James version and have him delete all the references to her that you can find. Make sure you include the Visitation, Proverbs 8, Magnificat written by St. Luke himself and of course Holy Mary's presence at the crucifixion on Golgotha and the fact that she the HVM, Mary Magdalene and St. John were the only ones who did not escape from the scene, like all the other apostles who did so for "fear of the Juice". You are cowards also, all destined for the 7th Circle, third Rring as Proverbs 8:35-37 alludes to!
-1 # aśświpe, farts again...SuperSoul1971 2022-06-19 17:57
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-3 # Unfortunately for you moronsHaarnaś 2022-06-19 21:54
Quoting Baddbuttski:
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you do not own the world and will nor inherit the Earth. This honor is reserved for Roman Catholics only, not heretics who cannot even think logically about the Bible and cannot agree on anything amongst themselves!
-2 # MUST DISCERN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH AND RETURN WITH THE CHURCHDolph 2022-06-19 14:17
There's a huge difference between the Lord's "return" with the Church and the Lord meeting the Church in the sky, ie., the "rapture". YOU DON'T WANT TO BE HERE FOR THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS, THE TRIBULATION. The Lord's second coming TO EARTH is AFTER the tribulation, Rev.19:11. The rapture happens BEFORE the tribulation during which even the believers, who were left behind, are mostly martyred. The timing of the rapture is made perfectly clear by Paul in 2Thes.2:3-8:

"Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin (A/C) is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming."

The man of sin, the Antichrist, future world ruler, will not be revealed until he (the Church) is taken out of the way (raptured) who is currently restraining the mystery of lawlessness. Yes, the Church is a "he", masculine, because "he" is the BODY of Christ, the Church. Some say the "he" is the Holy Spirit, but that's not true because the Holy Spirit never leaves the earth during the tribulation because millions will be saved by the workings of the Holy Spirit during the tribulation. The rapture is described by Paul in 1Thes.4:13-18; 1Cor.15:51-57; Phil.3:20-21. Paul also states 5 times that the Church is not appointed unto the wrath of God, the tribulation. Also, Revelation itself mentions the Church 19 times in Chapters 1-3, but doesn't mention the Church once during the tribulation, Chapters 4-19. What bridegroom would persecute is bride before the wedding reception?? But God is not finished with the Jews, of whom 2/3 will die during the trib, Zech. 13:8,9. It will be Daniel's 70 Weeks, all of which were for Jerusalem and the Jews, Dan.9:23, including the last week, the tribulation, "Jacob's Trouble."Jer.30:7.
-4 # RE CITATIONSHaarnaś 2022-06-19 15:43
Quoting Dolph:
There's a huge difference between the Lord's "return" with the Church and the Lord meeting the Church in the sky, ie., the "rapture"


Citation, Citation, Citations.

Dolph, would you be kind enough to provide us with some references about the so-called rupure in the Magisterium of the Catholic Church, Catholic Bible-on-line or any other reliable biblical reference (Talmud, Torah, Books of Kabaka and Zohar as well as other BS references excluded) so that curious minds can be satisfied. Just as the Juice have infiltrated the Catholic Church eons ago, they have infiltrated American churches back in 19th century and did some serious brainwashing!
-2 # So, the Big Question is...Dolph 2022-06-19 14:40
Who is restraining evil on this earth so that the A/C can not be revealed because it is not yet his time to be revealed. Hint: "Onward Christian soldiers marching as to war." Who is fighting "the good fight of faith"; "resisting the Devil and he will flee from you"; wearing the "full armor of God". Who is with Christ at the Battle of Armageddon?" "The shield of faith resists all the fiery darts of the Devil" We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, powers and the rulers of darkness of this world." "No weapon formed against us shall prosper!"

Yes, it can only be the Church who is restraining all the forces of evil and the banner over us is Love.
+6 # THE RISE OF THE PHOENIX!Rick Geise 2022-06-19 09:04
WWI resulted in The League of Nations. WWII resulted in the United Nations. The objective of WWIII is the globalist''s Satanic totalitarian technocrats (i.e. "New World Order").
-3 # WELL SAID, RAGEISE!Dolph 2022-06-19 15:09
And it's not just the Jews. It's all the filthy rich who, because of their stealing, lying, philandering, kick-backs, blackmailing, threats, secret deals and fraud have opened the door to Satan who now manipulates them as his little whores and slaves. Alfred Milner, Cicil Rhodes, Rockefeller, Carnegies, Morgans, Bushes, the list is endless including the Queen and the House of Windsor.

It kicked into high gear at the turn of the century with Cicil Rhodes and the Rothschilds in England who created the Chatham House, the British Round Table, who came into the US and created the CFR, Trilateral Commission, etc.

The Bible says, The whole world is corrupt, the whole world is deceived, Satan rules the world and man has a fallen nature until he is born again. Why didn't we hear this in first grade or from our parents? The corruption is ubiquitous.
-1 # RUSSIA''S HARVEST?Rick Geise 2022-06-19 08:50
We will know a whole lot more about who is doing who behind the scenes when we find out that Russia ends up with a record wheat harvest!
+3 # Meanwhile Fauci keeps on killing.carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-06-19 08:38
Just saw him on Bloomberg advertising his new baby killing vaccines.
+2 # Gonzalo LiraAvanarts 2022-06-19 08:16
Isn't the only one who thinks the halt of Russian train traffic through Lithuania is a big deal.


https://sonar21.com/lithuania-may-have-lit-the-fuze-on-world-war-iii/
+1 # Ole VladForrest Mosby 2022-06-19 08:07
He’s a stud aint he?
+1 # Seriously speaking,Paul Lambert 2022-06-19 08:14
I can see how he would resonate with women.
# RE: Seriously speaking,mjc 2022-06-20 16:51
Quoting Paul Lambert:
I can see how he would resonate with women.

"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." - Henry Kissinger

Observe Kissinger.
Then observe his 'escorts'.

There are common underlying themes.


https://www.whosdatedwho.com/dating/henry-kissinger

Henry Kissinger has been in relationships with Samantha Eggar (1972 - 1973), Jill St. John (1970 - 1973), Joanna Barnes (1970 - 1972), Candice Bergen (1970), Gina Lollobrigida, Marlo Thomas and Barbara Walters.
# Groomed for warcarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-06-19 07:33
As we all know - Ukraine is collapsing.
NATO is readying to move in.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-british-troops-must-prepare-to-fight-in-europe-once-again-says-new-head-of-army-12636637
British troops must prepare "to fight in Europe once again" as the war in Ukraine continues, the new head of the Army has warned.

General Sir Patrick Sanders took over from General Sir Mark Carleton Smith on Monday and wrote to his charges about the challenges they face.

"Russia's invasion of Ukraine underlines our core purpose to protect the UK by being ready to fight and win wars on land," he said.

"There is now a burning imperative to forge an Army capable of fighting alongside our allies and defeating Russia in battle.

"We are the generation that must prepare the Army to fight in Europe once again."

He added that he is the first Chief of the General Staff since 1941 to take command of the Army "in the shadow of a land war in Europe involving a continental power".
Both the Prime Minister and NATO General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg have warned to be prepared to offer Ukraine its support long term.
His comments follow Boris Johnson's recent trip to Kyiv to meet with Ukraine's president, after which the Prime Minister said Vladimir Putin's invasion is "entering a new phase".

Writing in The Times, Mr Johnson said: "I am afraid that we need to steel ourselves for a long war, as Putin resorts to a campaign of attrition, trying to grind down Ukraine by sheer brutality.
+3 # Off topic: VideoWoulf 2022-06-19 01:13
The guy "seems" to be doing this for all the "right" reasons and believes what he says. I think he is wrong on at least 2 points.
1: Putin said they could not take on "all" of NATO. Hal reported they have removed the safeguards for an "accidental" launch. They will strike first if "Mother Russia" is "threatened".
2: All the phone calls and emails to your "selected" representees will not achieve anything. They will do as they are told. We have the best government money can buy. Too bad we can't afford them.
Aftermath: Keep your family and friends close, and GOD closer.
+1 # Woulf & mjc...JECJEC 2022-06-19 07:08
In comparison to all the other points of view concerning the situation between Russia and the U.S. plus NATO, I have to say you two appear to be the most accurate.
+3 # RE: Off topic: Videomjc 2022-06-19 02:05
He's a 70yr old man.....and to my eyes (engineer....not an MD) .... appears 'ill'.

Sometimes....there are the 'heroes people need' and sometimes the 'heroes people want'.

I think Putin was the hero Russia needed.

I believe he loves/loved his country and is a sincere Russian patriot.

It's not all wine-and-roses though......he may well be the world's richest man, ahead of Musk, through graft : https://foreignpolicyi.org/vladimir-putins-net-worth/

But, comparatively, has America 'done better' through Putin's reign?

With the exception of Trump....I say 'NO'.
Putin has done better by Russia than W/Oba-mao/Biden have done better by the US.

Trump broke that mold.....and thus was fraudulently disposed of.
+1 # MJCDolph 2022-06-19 15:40
The difference between our leaders and the Russian leaders is no secret. Russians are still nationalists while the US has been conspiring to bring America down and create the New World Order. As different as night and day. Lately our elites have become desperate because their window of opportunity has quickly closed with the dramatic rise of both Russia and China and the threat of the dollar crashing as the world's reserve currency. So desperate that they very crudely had to steal the election from Trump and now are gambling with nuclear annihilation in an attempt to get their way with Russia, not to mention China. These despicable, faceless, antichrist elites will soon be enjoying their well deserved places in Hell.

The perfect storm for the climax of the Greatest Story Ever Told. God is amazing.
-2 # americaldocamericaldoc 2022-06-19 01:35
Agree!
+1 # BREAKING: Did Lithuania Light the Fuse on World War III?lola rutherford 2022-06-19 00:25
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/breaking-lithuania-light-fuse-world-war-iii/
# Thank you for the message from Gonzalo LiraMan of the Atom 2022-06-19 00:18
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/breaking-lithuania-light-fuse-world-war-iii/
+4 # RE: Putin: "Previous World Order, Won't Return"mjc 2022-06-18 23:51
I have a huge amount of respect for Putin.

He appears to genuinely love his country.....although he appears to have taken advantage of his office to enrich himself.....and may well be the world's richest man (Musk in second place) at this point.

But the US, in comparison, has been ill-served through the W Bush/Oba-mao/Biden presidencies.

Trump broke that pattern.....and so, of course, had to be fraudulently removed from office and (I suspect will soon be) prosecuted to keep him from running again.


I weep for the Republic. My father and father's fathers are spinning in their graves.

Harness THAT motion, and you could retire every fossil fuel electricity plant in America......
+3 # Hal? Hal?...SuperSoul1971 2022-06-18 23:33
Maybe Hal could make a Topic/thread, and have it daily current, up there alongside the topics of the day...
and those who wish to engage and debate and present and argue and name call, whatever, ABOUT THEOLOGY AND BELIEFS, ETC... would be afforded the space & go there to hash it out. And the news topics of the day could be reserved for comments about the topic of the post. This religious banter, is ridiculous, mostly off topic, and not what most come here to have to wade through
# Remember one ThingOccamsRazor 2022-06-19 02:43
A military chaplain once made a profound observation: "There are no Atheists in a Foxhole" . How can you be so certain that when those nukes are falling that you won't be praying as well? You might find that you'd be joining hands in a prayer circle and taking the lead in prayer yourself. City-Wide Repentance Saved Nineveh, Might as well give it a try, what would you have to lose?
# wht the hell are u talking about?SuperSoul1971 2022-06-19 09:17
relative to what i requested? I dont locate myself so as to avoid the BVM and Kevin the dodo and heretic boolscheit name calling , its too juvenile and u'll never debate God into someone's life or heart. ur comment is too ridiculous as well. Im asking that it stop. Times are too serious for this foolishness of engaging some stupid faux intellectual kid over his catachism against one's will.
+4 # dittodave0975644 2022-06-18 23:44
and the current thread should accept important topics
that are not covered in the active list of topics - like
stuff in the past:
- updates on those nuke missiles that got shipped to
ukraine by supposed 'accident' - we have heard
nothing more about it
- updates on evergrande default (nothing was said
for at least a week before the report of the market
shutdown yesterday)
- anything that seems to have gone down the memory
hole...
-3 # stupid fckn kid...SuperSoul1971 2022-06-19 00:45
its a shame to have to see the butthole's name and the long posts, and have to continually take the high road, and not respond in kind. It wouldnt do any good. How did they get their hooks so deep into the kid? & OMG, such pride...
-9 # Lest I forget. Here is Magnificat, the prayer of Holy Mary from St. Luke's Gospel. It is so powerful that a world-famous composer JSB set it to music back in 17th century!Haarnaś 2022-06-18 21:23
Here is the Herbert von Karajan performance of Magnificat with Berlin Philharmonic, Kevin!
Soprano: Judith Blegen
Alto: Helga Müller-Molinari
Tenor: Francisco Araiza
Bass: Robert Holl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSzWDc8UoN0

The Magnificat
The Prayer Of Mary


My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord,
my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
for he has looked with favor on his lowly servant.
From this day all generations will call me blessed:
the Almighty has done great things for me,
and holy is his Name.

He has mercy on those who fear him
in every generation.
He has shown the strength of his arm,
he has scattered the proud in their conceit.

He has cast down the mighty from their thrones,
and has lifted up the lowly.
He has filled the hungry with good things,
and the rich he has sent away empty.

He has come to the help of his servant Israel
for he remembered his promise of mercy,
the promise he made to our fathers,
to Abraham and his children forever.

(Lk 1: 46-55)

Magnificat anima mea Dominum;
Et exultavit spiritus meus in Deo salutari meo,
Quia respexit humilitatem ancillae suae; ecce enim ex hoc beatam me dicent omnes generationes.
Quia fecit mihi magna qui potens est, et sanctum nomen ejus, Et misericordia ejus a progenie in progenies timentibus eum.
Fecit potentiam brachio suo;
Dispersit superbos mente cordis sui.
Deposuit potentes de sede, et exaltavit humiles.
Esurientes implevit bonis, et divites dimisit inanes.
Sucepit Israel, puerum suum, recordatus misericordiae suae, Sicut locutus est ad patres nostros, Abraham et semeni ejus in saecula.
+1 # Sorry..disregard Fatima completely.Doug Brown 2022-06-18 23:12
Read harnas again. Weak man.
Weak thinking .
Pinning hope where he pins it. Sad.
Such.Error
Spinning Wheels.
About the warning from the well spoken
Ukrainian newsman. We know his general
Informational framework, but we did not
know about the new travel restriction
forbidding access to Russian rail.
Meaning no travel to Kaliningrad.
That is a bad development.
And he was right about Biden.
Biden cannot turn back.
He hopped out of a Church today
hoping to tell the world his bicycle spill
wasn't that bad.
The Ukrainian newsman's admonition
that Biden would "be forced" to go nuclear
rang true. Dark winter indeed.
-6 # RE: Sorry..disregard Fatima completely.Haarnaś 2022-06-18 23:24
Quoting Doug Brown:
Read harnas ...
About the warning from the well spoken
Ukrainian newsman...
new travel restriction
forbidding access to Russian rail.
Meaning no travel to Kaliningrad...
The Ukrainian newsman's admonition
that Biden would "be forced" to go nuclear
rang true. Dark winter indeed.


Another textbook example of Brownian random associations and word salad with all the psychopathology that it implies.
-6 # RE: Lest I forget. Here is Magnificat, the prayer of Holy Mary from St. Luke's Gospel. It is so powerful that a world-famous composer JSB set it to music back in 17th century!Haarnaś 2022-06-18 22:48
Quoting Haarnaś:

The Magnificat
The Prayer Of Mary


My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord,
my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
for he has looked with favor on his lowly servant.
From this day all generations will call me blessed:
the Almighty has done great things for me,
and holy is his Name.

He has mercy on those who fear him
in every generation.
He has shown the strength of his arm,
he has scattered the proud in their conceit.

He has cast down the mighty from their thrones,
and has lifted up the lowly.
He has filled the hungry with good things,
and the rich he has sent away empty.

He has come to the help of his servant Israel
for he remembered his promise of mercy,
the promise he made to our fathers,
to Abraham and his children forever.

(Lk 1: 46-55)

Magnificat anima mea Dominum;
Et exultavit spiritus meus in Deo salutari meo,
Quia respexit humilitatem ancillae suae; ecce enim ex hoc beatam me dicent omnes generationes.
Quia fecit mihi magna qui potens est, et sanctum nomen ejus, Et misericordia ejus a progenie in progenies timentibus eum.
Fecit potentiam brachio suo;
Dispersit superbos mente cordis sui.
Deposuit potentes de sede, et exaltavit humiles.
Esurientes implevit bonis, et divites dimisit inanes.
Sucepit Israel, puerum suum, recordatus misericordiae suae, Sicut locutus est ad patres nostros, Abraham et semeni ejus in saecula.


This is more intimate version of Magnificat than what Von Karajan had produced with Berlin Philharmonic. Latin is much better here without Teutonic accent and the text can be followed more easily (so that even Kevin Dodo or Doug Braune can follow the Magnificat in Latin) without being distracted by Germans mispronouncing the original Latin Vulgate text of St. Jerome!

Jordi Savall and his Spaniards not only do much better job making Latin more transparent, but also use historical period instruments, giving the performance much more original feel and timbre!

Hanna Bayodi-Hirt, Johannette Zomer soprano
Damien Guillon contratenor
David Munderloh tenor
Stephan MacLeod baríton

La Capella Reial de Catalunya (in Barcelona)
Le Concert des Nations
Jordi Savall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK9i1f3l-rU
-9 # Putin: "Previous World Order, Won't Return"Haarnaś 2022-06-18 19:55
That is a very interesting statement by Vladimir Vladimirovich and it is loaded. Is he really a Catholic in pectore who knows about the three Fatima prophecies which state that once all the wars of Chestisement ARE OVER, HE WILL NEED TO COVERT AND RE-CHRITINIZE THE WORLD. This is at least how I read it. The old order cannot be defeated by human hand or just because Putin says so. Conversion of the whole world including all the heretics here of various shades, Jews and atheists into one Roman Catholic faith lead by the pope is indispensable for the Novus Ordo Seclorum to go away!
# Credit where credit is due.Paul Lambert 2022-06-18 17:51
I can only hope that Putin's words as cited in this article are totally correct.

The west seriously needs to turn a page and be rid of the globalists and their wicked agenda. Even without the war in Ukraine, or COVID or financial problem, western countries had already become very sick societies being rotted out from within by infiltrators and native-born traitors alike.

There really is no going back to anything worthwhile. We need to learn from historical experience and start going forward.

The human race finally overcame slavery after thousands of years. Our challenge now is to overcome statism.
+3 # █▓▒░ "Previous World Order, Won't Return" ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-06-18 17:26
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NEW - Powell: "Rapid changes are taking place
in the global monetary system that may affect
the international role of the dollar.
"


Cash is trash and will crash... SOON!

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1537832095602597890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1537832095602597890%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2F
-9 # RE: █▓▒░ "Previous World Order, Won't Return" ░▒▓█Haarnaś 2022-06-18 19:57
Quoting Palehorse:
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NEW - Powell: "Rapid changes are taking place
in the global monetary system that may affect
the international role of the dollar.
"


Cash is trash and will crash... SOON!

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1537832095602597890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1537832095602597890%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2F


Kevin, would you kindly rephrase you statement? As usual I am still at loss what you are trying to say.
-11 # Re: Catholicism teaches a different gospelHaarnaś 2022-06-18 20:08
Kevin as usual shoots himself in a foot with this misleading statement. The truth is that only Catholics have the whole Canon of the Gospels. Seven or eight books in the Old Testament were rejected by Luther and Calvin and in addition the wording of all heretical babble has been changed by the new denomination's founders compared to the original Latin vulgate to suit their tastes and not so brilliant innovations, so that it is the Protestant babbles that are not recognizable as Christian today. They were written by innumerable heretical men and not the Holy Spirit like the original Gospels. Where did you pic up all this syncretic religious ideas Kevin, I do not remember anyone teaching like this when I went to school!
# █▓▒░ Catholicism teaches a different gospel ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-06-18 15:37
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Since recorded history began one common thread has
stood fast through time. It spanned the empires of ancient
Mesopotamia, Babylon, Egypt, Greece, Rome and many others.

The Bible clearly states that Lucifer sinned against God in
that he said “I shall be as the Most High.”

Lucifer wants to be worshiped. God removed him from
his prominent position and became known as Satan. He
has tried every trick to get humans to worship himself.

And Satan appeared as the queen of heaven and the above
mentioned ancient pagan empires all had female deities
and goddesses. And it continues to this very day.

The Jewish Sabbatain Kabbalah (red wrist string) teaches
that Satan is a hermaphrodite. (LGBTQP Sodomite Dyke Pedo...)

Scripture clearly states that in the end of days that:
“...Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for
the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath,
because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Rev 12:12

Satan's end time full court press will include female deity
worship which is completely void of any form of scriptural

support. Today it is known as the cult of Mary.

“... Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall
not come, except there come a falling away first...”
“...and
that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;”
2 Thessalonians 2:3

And where do you find female statues and shrines
that emulate the ancient goddess statues?
Take a guess!
# Well said PalehorseDolph 2022-06-19 13:54
Worshipping Mary alone is a good reason to run from the Catholic church as fast as you can and don't look back!!!
-9 # re: Kevin the Dodo virginal obscession!Haarnaś 2022-06-18 20:59
Quoting Palehorse:
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And where do you find female statues and shrines
that emulate the ancient goddess statues?
Take a guess!


Kevin, are you still obsessing about Holy Mary, Ever-Virgin? Did you not get the professional help that I had suggested for you, ie, Prozac, Mellaril, Seroquel or whatever else they give to folks here who are a little off balance?

Holy Virgin Mary is a Catholic Church institution going back to the nascent Church persecuted by Jews immediately after the deicide of Jesus Christ 2000 years ago. When the apostles and other smart alecks like you scattered to the four winds for fear of the Juice, HVM is the one person that held the Church together. She is venerated all over the world now and is not going away any time soon. Did you not hear the beautiful hymn written in her honor by the Indian converts to Eastern Orthodoxy in St. Mary's Indian Orthodox Cathedral in Bahrein? Here it is again, just in case you missed it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLPZ-cuFqsU

Here is another such hymn, Catholic this time and encore!! Enjoy it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruA-Vo4y5x4&t=70s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s79UtFyNuE&t=6s
-13 # RE: █▓▒░ Catholicism teaches a different gospel ░▒▓█daniel_martin 2022-06-18 17:27
virtually all christianity is a Saul of Tarsus cult. Remind you, he WAS NOT one of 12 apostles. Christ himself was Jewish, and never spoke one single word contrarywise to The Torah/OT. But the wicked 'Apostle Paul"said the law is dead and a curse. And its "OK"to eat foods sacrificed to idols ( 1 Corinthians 8). Needless to say anyone with the slightest Torah knowledge knows its a straight one way ticket to hell. Only real christians will pass through the antichrist test REV2;2. back to geopolitics
+2 # RE: █▓▒░ Catholicism teaches a different gospel ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-06-18 21:24
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Your reference to 1 Corinthians 8 is incorrect as you must go to the book of Acts for your answer.

For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay
upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:
29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from
blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.
If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.
Acts 15:28-59

The law that was done away with was the
animal blood sacrifice etc. but the 10
Commandments still stand, which was part of
the OT law.
# There are more than 1,000 commandments in the New Testament.Dolph 2022-06-19 16:16
Only the Jewish rituals have terminated because the Messiah has come. God doesn't change. We are saved by grace but that never replaced the moral laws of God who still abhors sin. If you are a true Christian you will try to keep the laws of God. Those who are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God, Rom.8:14. Faith without works is DEAD. Once saved always saved is anathema to God. Again, there are over a thousand laws in the New Testament. When you sin you give license to Satan to attack you.
+4 # Afternoon to you Daniel M....JECJEC 2022-06-18 18:18
first and foremost, I am a believer and follower of Jesus Christ / Yeshua (or Yah-shua) HaMashiach. If Jesus Christ is not "the (only) way, the (only) truth, and the (only) life (John 14:6) then please feel free to simply disregard the rest of what I have to say concerning Paul.

Since I don't know you from Adam, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say that what you wrote concerning the law and Paul, it's my position that you've simply created a false conclusion of what Paul has to say about "the law". I see no need to go into a long winded dissertation - so - the really short version is as follows: in Romans 3 and Galatians 3, Paul makes it clear that the purpose of "the law" is still alive and serving well.

In Romans 3, Paul makes two points clear: if the law did NOT exist, then man could not be held accountable for having broken any law because we were not aware that we had commented any kind of violation of any law - In Short: the purpose of the law is to make us conscience of sin - simple. Romans 3:19,20 Specifically: Romans 3:20 NIV - Therefore no one will be declared - Bible Gateway

Paul's other point in Romans 3 is: ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Simple.

Now, the other purpose of the law is found in Galatians 3 and it's so simple: once we realize that we can not be justified by the law - nor can we uphold the law ( for if a person could uphold the law and thus receive salvation by observing the law, then the purpose of Jesus dying on the cross - in our place - would have been for nothing Galatians 3:21b )

So then the conclusion is simple: " the purpose of the law is to bring us to Jesus Christ". Galatians 3:19-25. Specifically: Galatians 3:24 - Bible Gateway

Hope this helps... Respectfully Jerry
-10 # RE: Afternoon to you Daniel M....daniel_martin 2022-06-18 20:52
Paul was obviously a psycho and like every psycho he was a VERY "many sided" person. " i became all things tô ALL Men". Who in sound mind would Said that. Look I studied this extensively, This is a Absolutely case closed tô me and YES, God sent me Very strong signals was spot on REVELATION 2:2
+1 # wow!JECJEC 2022-06-19 06:56
Okay then... thank you for the insight. Isn't it interesting that your first name 'Daniel' means "God is my judge".
# The links for Romans and GalatiansJECJEC 2022-06-18 18:24
Sorry, I meant to include the links for both books I quoted from:

Romans 3: 20

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Romans%203:20

Galatians 3:21

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Galatians%203:21

Galatians 3:24


https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Galatians%203:24

My apologies...
-10 # IsreHell is a terrorist entity!Haarnaś 2022-06-18 12:43
Where did I hear this before? Ahhh, Hal's show last night where he finally announced it to the world! As you all know, there has been always a very vocal and bold faction of this forum that from the very beginning promoted this very idea.

It all goes back to Israela's founding Fathers, who were all evil and almost killed one another in Tel Aviv over the dispute involving ship named Altalena coming into harbor in Tel Aviv in 1948. Altalena almost sank Israel by coming close to causing civil war between Hagenah and Irgun Israeli terrorist organizations.

Israel has always been a terrorist nation and that includes terrorism against other Jews who do not agree with the script. That is why Israel is a failed state and will collapse very soon. It is going now through existential struggle with the latest generation of the dispossessed Palestinians and imminently will initiate a war against them as well as Iran, Syria, Lebanon and Gaza for survival. Good luck. They stand no chance. Israel is going to fold because it was always a terrorist nation and will remain as such. There is no benevolent Founding Father (like Gen. Washington on the US) in IsraHell at whose wholesome legacy the state of Israel can always look back and rebuild upon it. Golda, Ben Goofball (David Grün born in Plonsk, Poland) and Mieczyslaw Biegun (aka M.Begin) were all Polish or Uke thugs who had left terrorist legacy.

There is another ship that almost sank Israel in 1967 during the Seven Day ME war , the USS Liberty, (see below) where 35 American sailors were killed by IDF terrorist Ari Force. We almost forgot about it because JBL and all the presidents who followed have suppressed the info about the incident. Most recent American victim of IDF terrorism American-Palestinian- journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, killed by sniper fire in May of 2022. It is almost certain that Israel is forever no more than another such incident away from its end. Smart Jews know it and already making plans to make their getaway.

Israel in no different in this manner from other institutions in the world that continue to collapse after being established by evil men. Luther, Calvin who spawned other heretical factions were evil men. Luther was a murder, lifelong fornicator (with his favorite Augustinian order nun) and ended his life by his own hand. Calvin was a crypto-Jew and Talmudist with an agenda. Looke where the protestant heresy is today: either dead or dying on the vine. Contract this with a Catholic Church, established by a God-man which has stood for 2000 and will never go away.

https://unpacked.education/video/the-ship-that-almost-sank-israel/

https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/180308

https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-power-of-the-jewish-lobby/

https://www.vox.com/2022/5/11/23067365/shireen-abu-akleh-palestinian-journalist-killed-israel
+1 # One good thing about HaarnasDolph 2022-06-19 16:25
He is a great advertisement for the Protestant Reformation. Are most Catholics so ignorant of the bible?? I hope not.
-10 # RE: IsreHell is a terrorist entity!Haarnaś 2022-06-18 12:51
Quoting Haarnaś:
. Contract this with a Catholic Church,


Should be : Contrast this with
# RE: IsreHell is a terrorist entity!daniel_martin 2022-06-18 13:54
theres no more than a few jewish people left in arab countries, because they were all expelled or slaughtered. But 30% of Israeli citizens are arabs, with full freedom of religion. You think Israel is bad? Try to open a church in Saudi Arabia and lets see how long you keep your head attached to your neck. for 14 centuries muslims slaugtered christians, and you still lick their boots. Israel is the only one free country facing them. IDK if you know, but you dont fight force with flowers. I should expect more world knowledge from a devout catholic, but I almost forgot you are american. BTW Im israelite soon to be israeli citizen, I have enough Rabi friends, so I know a thing or two about Israel
-6 # RE: IsreHell is a terrorist entity!Haarnaś 2022-06-18 20:31
Quoting daniel_martin:
Israel is the only one free country facing them. IDK if you know, but you dont fight force with flowers.


Nice little composition, but it does not address the major point raised in my note, which is that Israel is not only killing other Jews, since most Palestinian Christians and Mohammadians are the early converts from Judaism, but is also killing Americans at will and with total impunity! I am not talking just about 34 sailors on the USS Liberty that we know about (although LBJ and McNamara had tried to suppress the news) only because Israel's terrorist Air Force missiles and navy's torpedoes could not sink Liberty. I am also talking about anyone else who gets in their way, such as JFK or most recently the American-Palestinian journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, killed by sniper fire in May of 2022 after covering ME news for Al Jazeera for 20 years

The issue is that Israel is not really a part ow Western Civilization if it has to kill prominent Americans in order to continue surviving!
-4 # █▓▒░ 6/14/22 Breaking Scriptural Alert ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-06-18 11:49
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IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM A TRUE MAN OF GOD ALMIGHTY

9 minute video you must see now.

https://rumble.com/v18gzw3-61422-breaking-scriptural-alert.html
# █▓▒░ The Prayer Of Desperation ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-06-18 18:19
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Derek Prince
https://www.bread-of-life.org/post/the-prayer-of-desperation
# RE: █▓▒░ 6/14/22 Breaking Scriptural Alert ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-06-18 16:03
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There will be heretics that will try and dispute this man of Gods warning with their deceitful words.

“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,”
2 Peter 3:3

“The thing that hath been,
it is that which shall be;
and that which is done
is that which shall be done:
and there is no new thing under the sun.
Ecclesiastes 1:9

“Jesus Christ the same yesterday,
and to day,
and for ever. “
Hebrews 13:8

The sins that brought judgment upon nations before us,
will receive the same response upon those of today.
-9 # This story defines balderdash and Horsefeathers, Kevin. This is the reason heretics are going the way of dinosaurs!Haarnaś 2022-06-18 14:21
Quoting Palehorse:
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IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM A TRUE MAN OF GOD ALMIGHTY

9 minute video you must see now.

https://rumble.com/v18gzw3-61422-breaking-scriptural-alert.html


To cut through all the heretical Mumbo-Jumbo, here is then the Catholic version :
Hosea's Prophecy was that the House of Israel would be scattered.

Here is the full analysis from the Douay-Rheims version in the Catholic Bible which has been synchronized with the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. The major methodological error which the good Pastor Langford commits is taking the text from the Old Testament that ONLY announces the future scattering of the ancient Judeans and Galileans and applying it to the present times. BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!

Things are not supposed to be done this way. What is history is history. It is in a can and cannot be taken out of 2500 years old can of pot-pourri and served as a guide to the modern times. The Ancient Israel was scattered, the prophecy was fulfilled. The US, Canada or even America are not mentioned in by Hosea, because he did not even know they existed (unlike Phoenicians, ancient Judean and Galileans were scared of the sea monsters and were not a seafaring people). In other words, the good pastor Langford is serving you heretics BALDERDASH!

http://www.catholic-bible.org/hosea/#:~:text=Hosea%20is%20book%20number%2015%20in%20the%20Old,often%20referred%20to%20as%20the%20Prophet%20of%20Doom
+2 # Truth be toldjudith L 2022-06-18 10:19
succinctly put, Putin.
Hidden faces, but creeping out of the shadows with sinister grins.
+5 # Biden Warned ominouslyDoug Brown 2022-06-18 09:30
Three times the mentally challenged
geriatric Joe Biden warned, during the Dabate,
of a Dark Winter. Nobody knew what he was
talking about. People ran to the CIA glossaries
wondering what dark winter was a code, or
euphemism for, but no one knew exactly.
Now with water/food/fuel shortages we can
guess. Is that type of foresight human?
It's like a gigantic marionette puppet show.
We ask who is operating the marionettes?
Again we do not know. Simple Simon harnass
believes its Jews. Other conjecture Valerie Jarrett.
Some believe believe Klaus Swaub, Otis Redding,
Elon Musk and others. But we do not
Know with certitude, not with absoluteness.
Invisible cleaners? Who? Hillary and Bill?
Whoever it is, they are clever enough to orchestrate
an election, orchestrate a pandemic, coerce events
to bring war, and totally control a media that
distorts reality, les continually, does nothing but lie.
Bill Gates? Who owns the marionette pieces?
There is such a ruling body?
-11 # You can stick your worthless exretion whe the sunshineHaarnaś 2022-06-18 12:49
Quoting Doug Brown:
Simple Simon harnass
believes its Jews. Other conjecture Valerie Jarrett.?


never shines, you moronic Zionist evangelical and Israeli Troll!
+4 # RE: Biden Warned ominouslyDread 2022-06-18 09:37
Try 13 families or „black aristocracy“. Try black, white and grey Pope. See „Jan Van Helsing“ … it‘ll give ya a hunch … and that’s only recent and our hemisphere…
-4 # Hillary warnsRush 2022-06-18 08:33
Hillary Clinton Warns Trump Could Help Putin Path to Victory in Ukraine

https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-warns-trump-could-help-putin-path-victory-ukraine-russia-1717112?piano_t=1
+7 # Let them be for signs.MildB 2022-06-18 04:26
The celestial show, best viewed between June 17 and June 27, will be the last time the five brightest planets cluster in the sky until 2040.

www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/see-a-rare-alignment-of-all-the-planets-in-the-night-sky

Genesis 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be FOR SIGNS, and for SEASONS, and for DAYS, and YEARS:

Hum? Daniel 4:3 How great are his signs! and how mighty are his wonders! his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation.

GREEN POWER = Electric cars with no grid capacity to charge them?. No longer the American road but a highway to Hell.

Last week we had brown outs in 17 states and 1 Canada providence and as the temps hit the 90's. Michigan AG proclaims that we need a transvestite groomer in every school as O~Biden Inc. celebrates Sodom and Gomorrah by signing a new executive order for even more "Special Rights".

All this as Severe thunderstorms hit the U.S. Midwest from June 13 to 15, 2022, causing widespread damage and leaving nearly 500 000 customers without power. Severe weather is now shifting to the Northeast.

MORE SIGNS?

It is clear to all the ‘Days of Lot’ is an official part of the policy of this administration. Simply put, America is in free-fall on every level you can think of, and way to many are cheering our own destruction, exactly as the Bible said would be happening in the last days.

Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

O~Biden Inc. is the fulfillment of a generations-old strategy of communist infiltration for purposes of destruction!
Time grows short!

Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

The late Larry Grathwohl, penetrated the Weather Underground, as an FBI special informant, and recounts in the following video, what people like Ayers have had in mind on how to deal with people like you who dare to visit wesites such as these. The following is Grathwohl's chilling account of our collective future in the so-called FEMA camps that many are afraid to admit exist, or are trying OBFUSCATE their true existence and purpose.

youtu.be/VlN2t0oERHk

Word meaning — obfuscate
ŏb′fə-skāt″, ŏb-fŭs′kāt″

transitive verb

1.To make so confused or opaque as to be difficult to perceive or understand.
2.To render indistinct or dim; darken.
3.To darken; to obscure; to becloud.
-1 # O~Biden....LindaN3 2022-06-18 12:55
I'm flag you called him O~Biden, as it has been shown by the White House, Pelosi (in slip ups), and out of Hussains own mouth on a talk show about how his desire would be to be in his basement I sweats running the White House!!
# Their formal titlePierre Derelicto 2022-06-18 13:45
... is the "Obiden Clown Show Regime."

The satanists must have dropped their intelligence standards, one can only assume.
+7 # Putin: "Previous World Order, Won't Return"Smiley1984*! 2022-06-18 04:03
Putin: "Previous World Order, Won't Return" , sounds to me like the "Great reset" and "New normal", is Putin playing his part for the W.E.Fs New World Order.

Are the sanctions and his reaction to them all part of the plan to destroy the Western Economies, because that seems to me to be what is happening.

The dollar is in it's death throws, the Euro not far behind, with European disintegration. It is going to be a cold, hard winter in Europe!

Boris, the Joker, is still trying to persuade Zelensky to carry on fighting irrespective of the cost, as is America. Where does all this Russophobia originate; CIA, MI6, Sorros?

Before long, people are going to wake up to the reality that this "proxy war in Ukraine", is going to be coming home to those in the West that propagated this WAR!

All the current bloodshed and destruction, could have, should have, been avoided; with mutual respect and proper diplomacy. Now we face a very uncertain and fearful future!
+3 # "Ding! Ding! Ding!"Pierre Derelicto 2022-06-18 13:48
Russian President Vladimir Putin: one of the earliest graduates of the WEF's "Young Leaders" program.
+9 # RE: Putin: "Previous World Order, Won't Return"Woulf 2022-06-17 21:49
I was never too fond of the "old order". I get a feeling I will not be too fond of this "new" order either. I think that common sense and morals got a "lobotomy" some time ago.
+1 # More like ...Pierre Derelicto 2022-06-18 13:48
... a castration.
# #I Guess Putin Ain't DeadKathrynM 2022-06-17 21:46
Read on Jim STONE the only guy to have successfully stayed out and off tracking before was Kim Jong Un, for a year no less. And he couldn't be lured out with rumors. Kinda funny. When UKR tried to float the coma bs I thought of the last guy they tried that with in Putin's cabinet. Also in a coma from massive heart attack I believe.
These guys are like nasty 3 yr olds. Bite and spit and pee their pants when they don't get their way.
+9 # ElitesLoki 2022-06-17 21:19
The satanic globalist elite - many of whom are Americans - care nothing for the nation state. "Washington" is used to bleed the U.S. dry in every way so as to increase the level of human pain in the face of God. satan knows his time is short, so he moves to bring about what God allows as judgement on the world at the end of time.
+6 # Putin Standing Between Us & the GlobalistFaith11 2022-06-17 21:18
Putin is standing between us ( the entire world) and these old pure evil globalist agenda. The globalist were not elected they just made up some clubs that they joined, they truly are genocidal cult leaders. Trump talked about this group of incredible, powerful people that are evil. He knew all about them and their dastardly deeds. Putin gave a speech about the depopulationist plans and how he planned to stop them with the power of God and they will feel his wrath!
+7 # When will people...Carla 2022-06-18 10:23
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...stop looking for a Man to save them (like trump, putin...) and turn to the only one who can save...JESUS

Jeremiah 17:5
Amplified Bible

Thus says the Lord,
“Cursed is the man who trusts in and relies on mankind, Making [weak, faulty human] flesh his strength, And whose mind and heart turn away from the Lord."
-3 # When does that not apply?Paul Lambert 2022-06-18 18:02
Of course, the faithful always need to turn to Jesus. However, that is becoming somewhat of a black hole in these discussions. You could say that about anything.

God forbid you should ever suffer a house fire, but if you ever do, will you not turn to the 911 operator and the fire brigade to save you? Perhaps you will just turn to Jesus since only he can save.

Cursed is the man who trusts in and relies on mankind? God works through men! You need to consider the whole verse, namely, AND whose mind and heart turn away from the Lord. Turning to men who have the Lord in their hearts might be a good start.
+1 # RE: When will people...BeenThere 2022-06-18 11:48
succinctly put......
+7 # Thank youSBGlett77 2022-06-18 08:33
I tire of all this "Putin bad" talk, even among people who are supportive of his policies. It seems it is taboo to not believe Putin is in on it, is an evil billionaire, is still a KGB agent at heart, murders his opponents, wants to re-establish the Soviet Union, and on and on. These are always just presented as 'givens", "we all know", that is, naked assertions with no proof.

In actual fact:

- Putin is single-mindedly looking out for Russia as his primary goal, not seeking to spread anything such as any political doctrine anywhere else;

- Putin and his associates regularly appeal to God in a clear and respectful way as their source of morality and right and wrong. Putin has mentioned the saving grace of Jesus, publicly. He promotes and compliments the moral and spiritual work of the church;

- Putin gives regular talks on morality, family values, personal integrity, and patriotic duty. He stresses the development of the individual, instead of identification of people into groups of "oppressed" and "oppressors". These talks are reported on in the international press, except for the Western press;

- Putin and associates stand against the recruitment into LGBTQ++ of the young and impressionable. They make it illegal. They know it is detrimental to society;

- Putin stands against excessive national debt and its associated currency debasement. He promotes growing Russia's economy organically, instead of financially. A financial economy is doomed to fail.


So downvote all you want, if you are so disposed and programmed by the spooks who benefit from creating new enemies du jour for our financial and MIC economy.
-1 # REALLY? I don't think so...Carla 2022-06-18 09:57
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Here is why...

Russias President Vladimir Putin Meets with World Economic Forum Chairman Klaus Schwab

Russian President Vladimir Putin met with World Economic Forum Executive chairman Klaus Schwab in St. Petersburg.

'During the meeting, Putin noted the importance and significant benefits of the World Economic Forum in Davos as an international platform that supports people in their efforts to work openly within the framework of existing international law and establish contacts between business people and government officials.

We have always maintained relations with your forum that you founded and we will continue to support it. And, of course, Russian representatives have always taken part and will take part in the events you hold. For our part, we are holding similar events, which, of course, aim to establish business contacts with Russia’s partners above all else. You know we are holding the St. Petersburg Economic Forum here in St. Petersburg as well as in the Far East, in Siberia, and in southern Russia”, Putin said.'

https://forumspb.com/en/news/news/russian-president-vladimir-putin-meets-with-world-economic-forum-chairman-klaus-schwab/
# Alternately,SBGlett77 2022-06-18 13:45
You could see this as "hold your friends close, and your enemies closer".

This is particularly plausible because the West's representatives are ecstatic about the WEF's agenda. Putin's remarks could definitely, by comparison, just be polite non-animosity. Remember, Russia and the Far East hold their own area's economic forums and associations, of which they are fervently supportive. Contrast, if you will, the openly evil depopulationist and enslavement remarks of the West's elected and UNelected leaders at the WEF.

We are willing to give gigantic passes to people like Joe Biden, for which there is ample evidence he took skims from Ukraine, showered with his daughter, involved himself in Hunter's crooked business dealings, and accepted being elected fraudulently. But let Putin say something nice about the WEF, and in a far less giddy manner than Biden, and he's the one who is evil. It smacks of motivated blindness.

Again, look at Putin's actual personal and professional life and compare it with Biden's, Gates', Schwab's, Fauci's, Zelensky's, Pelosi's, Schumer's, Gore's, etc., etc.

The basic problem we have is not being willing, as individuals and as a nation, to accept that our un-repented tolerance or embrace of vast evil is what is going to cause us to be JUDGED as a nation. Nations are judged in time; individuals in eternity. It has to be that way, as nations don't exist there. But we want to have it both ways - God is just, but His actions are not our fault - it's someone else's.
-1 # SBGlett77, You assume a lot and much of it is wrong...Carla 2022-06-18 15:24
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I (nor probably most people who subscribe here) DO NOT give a pass to the illegitimate president nor do I condone any of the WEF agenda as putin and biden openly endorse.

Having identified America as Babylon, it should be clear to reasonable people my stance on the fact that America is under God's judgment and ONLY individuals can be saved, the nation is done.

You are spending an awful lot of precious time defending putin against mounting and unquestionable evidence like what came out of his own mouth about his support of WEF and Schwab which was published by the kremlin so they want you to know it...

https://forumspb.com/en/news/news/russian-president-vladimir-putin-meets-with-world-economic-forum-chairman-klaus-schwab/
-2 # Russia and China planning simultaneous attack to ELIMINATE the United States and occupy North AmericaCarla 2022-06-18 09:43
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https://citizens.news/627305.html

From this article by Mike Adams from interview with JR Nyquist (and confirmed by trusted sources)...
"Russia and China have an agreement to invade and occupy North America, dividing the territory between them."

"The continental United States will be attacked...

-From the North: Russian and Chinese troops cross from Canada into Washington and other northern states. (Canada will quickly surrender to Russia or China thanks to traitorous Trudeau.)

-From the South: Chinese troops working with drug cartels invade US southern states along human smuggling routes.

-From the West: Chinese troops bombard National Guard bases in California with offshore artillery or tactical nuclear weapons, then carry out a beach landing and seize the ports, after which larger ships dock and unload battle equipment for the full-scale war.

-From the East: Russia detonates its Poseidon underwater drones, unleashing a tidal wave of radioactive water that will inundate the entire East Coast, taking out Naval infrastructure in Norfolk, rendering Washington D.C. uninhabitable and wrecking Wall Street and New York City, among other places. It's also not a good day to live in Miami."

Believe it or don't...but your belief doesn't change reality
# I Agree with Carla and...Dolph 2022-06-19 16:59
...but I don't think it will happen until world-wide earthquakes happen that may begin today when Asst. Sec. of State Barbara Leaf visits the West Bank and Israel. Her visit was set for today but not a word can be found. Many important prophecies have predicted that when the US divides Israel God will divide the US straight down the middle.
+1 # Since we are talking about reality...Paul Lambert 2022-06-18 18:11
How do you make water radioactive? Do you actually mean that the water will be full of radioactive particles mixed in? If so, how much radioactive waste of that sort can be generated by the drones and, given that it is heavier than water and non-soluable, how would it be distributed through the water.

And what would create the tidal wave that inundates the entire east coast?

Believe it or not? If citizens.news could answer those questions rationally, I would consider it, for sure.
+3 # RealitySBGlett77 2022-06-18 10:18
Do you not see that, as Putin has stated, the West ( and he has specified this as mostly the U.S. ) has shown a determined persistent effort to destroy Russia to let our corporations plunder its resources and cement our world hegemony? He has also stated that the U.S. needs to be cut down a few notches so this unipolar world-dominant mindset we have will be gone. We stubbornly refuse to give up this "U.S. Century" concept.

If Russia invades or simply attacks, it will be for this reason, a reason Lavrov has calmly made very clear: to get the very powerful U.S. finally off their backs once and for all. This doesn't make them bad; only long-term defensive, or if you will, pre-emptive. In one sense, all governments of men are "bad" and corrupt by their nature, but this doesn't only apply to Russia. It applies to us as well. Sorry.

Godless China, North Korea, and Canada ( yes, Canada ) have other motives, of course; selfish and evil motives of conquest and slaughter. They are exploiting our angering of Russia to ally and ride Russia's coattails. We drove Russia into their arms.

Yes, we will no doubt be attacked and invaded as a judgment from God for killing developing babies, using usury to finance all manner of evil worldwide, promoting abominations like homosexuality and its offspring, and forgetting God as a nation. That changes none of the facts about Russia or the Putin administration I outlined above. It's just easier to claim "Putin bad" than to take the blame ourselves.

Yes, Putin has feet of clay just like ALL the rest of us. We needn't amplify those out of proportion to justify a narrative.
# Well said SBGlett77Dolph 2022-06-19 17:10
Most here I'm sure agree with your summation. Never the less, Russia will be attacking us because of the demonic faceless antichrists in Washington, not to mention our MSM. When the US is split down the New Madrid Fault, from the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico, it will be the first of the end-time events of Biblical proportions.
+11 # Bye Bye Babylontoemoss 2022-06-17 20:42
Just a matter of time before Babylon USA is destroyed!
+2 # RE: Bye Bye BabylonLongrider53 2022-06-17 20:57
Quoting toemoss:
Just a matter of time before Babylon USA is destroyed!

Make sure your election is sure.. “How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken. How is Babylon become a desolation among the nations.”
# Cut AsunderDolph 2022-06-19 17:14
Exactly, down the Mississippi.
+9 # Cleaning em up.Rush 2022-06-17 20:40
The Nativity School of Worcester can no longer call itself Catholic after flying the gay pride and Black Lives Matter flags, according to a bishop’s decree.

I refuse to go back to always bowing to the left.
+14 # WOW .........Russia states it AS IT IS .......GREATNHydg 2022-06-17 18:47
I appreciate the statements by President Putin .......I identify with those comments ...... Putin is SO RIGHT ON!
+14 # America is Babylon the great...FewThereBe 2022-06-17 18:30
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How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. (Rev 18:7)
-2 # The kine of BashanMildB 2022-06-18 04:39
Amos 4
1 Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy, which say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink.
2 The Lord GOD hath sworn by his holiness, that, lo, the days shall come upon you, that he will take you away with hooks, and your posterity with fishhooks.
3 And ye shall go out at the breaches, every cow at that which is before her; and ye shall cast them into the palace, saith the LORD.

4 Come to Bethel, and transgress; at Gilgal multiply transgression; and bring your sacrifices every morning, and your tithes after three years:
5 And offer a sacrifice of thanksgiving with leaven, and proclaim and publish the free offerings: for this liketh you, O ye children of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.
6 And I also have given you cleanness of teeth in all your cities, and want of bread in all your places: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.

7 And also I have withholden the rain from you, when there were yet three months to the harvest: and I caused it to rain upon one city, and caused it not to rain upon another city: one piece was rained upon, and the piece whereupon it rained not withered.
8 So two or three cities wandered unto one city, to drink water; but they were not satisfied: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.

9 I have smitten you with blasting and mildew: when your gardens and your vineyards and your fig trees and your olive trees increased, the palmerworm devoured them: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.

10 I have sent among you the pestilence after the manner of Egypt: your young men have I slain with the sword, and have taken away your horses; and I have made the stink of your camps to come up unto your nostrils: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.

11 I have overthrown some of you, as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and ye were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.

12 Therefore thus will I do unto thee, O Israel: and because I will do this unto thee, prepare to meet thy God, O Israel.
13 For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is his thought, that maketh the morning darkness, and treadeth upon the high places of the earth, The LORD, The God of hosts, is his name.

The point is behavior. Animals are used by God metaphorically to describe character in people, ‘loyal as a ‘dog’.; ‘sly’ as a fox’., ‘cunning as a serpent’., ‘harmless as a dove’, ‘silent as a lamb’, ‘terrible as a lion roaring’, and so on. In fact it is for THIS very reason - driving home such illustrations - that God GAVE the animals their specific characters. He could do this. He’s God.

The fat cows example was given to emphasize the Lord’s scorn for these lusty, carnal Israelites, for who the next verse (Amos 4:2) warns of reprisals.

From Bible Hub:

New International Version

Hear this word, you cows of Bashan on Mount Samaria, you women who oppress the poor and crush the needy and say to your husbands, "Bring us some drinks!"

New Living Translation

Listen to me, you fat cows living in Samaria, you women who oppress the poor and crush the needy, and who are always calling to your husbands, “Bring us another drink!”

English Standard Version

“Hear this word, you cows of Bashan, who are on the mountain of Samaria, who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, who say to your husbands, ‘Bring, that we may drink!’

Berean Study Bible

Hear this word, you cows of Bashan on Mount Samaria, you women who oppress the poor and crush the needy, who say to your husbands, “Bring us more to drink.”

New American Standard Bible

Hear this word, you cows of Bashan who are on the mountain of Samaria, Who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, Who say to your husbands, "Bring now, that we may drink!"

King James Bible

Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy, which say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink.

Christian Standard Bible

Listen to this message, you cows of Bashan who are on the hill of Samaria, women who oppress the poor and crush the needy, who say to their husbands, "Bring us something to drink."

Contemporary English Version

You women of Samaria are fat cows! You mistreat and abuse the poor and needy, then you say to your husbands, "Bring us more drinks!"

Good News Translation

Listen to this, you women of Samaria, who grow fat like the well-fed cows of Bashan, who mistreat the weak, oppress the poor, and demand that your husbands keep you supplied with liquor!

Holman Christian Standard Bible

Listen to this message, you cows of Bashan who are on the hill of Samaria, women who oppress the poor and crush the needy, who say to their husbands," Bring us something to drink."

International Standard Version

"Listen to this message, you fat cows from Bashan, who live on the Samaritan mountains, who oppress the poor, who rob the needy, and who constantly ask your husbands for one more drink!"

NET Bible

Listen to this message, you cows of Bashan who live on Mount Samaria! You oppress the poor; you crush the needy. You say to your husbands, "Bring us more to drink!"

New Heart English Bible

Listen to this word, you cows of Bashan, who are on the mountain of Samaria, who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, who tell their husbands, "Bring us something to drink."

GOD'S WORD® Translation

Listen to this message, you cows of Bashan who live on Mount Samaria. You women oppress the poor and abuse the needy. You say to your husbands, "Get some wine! Let's drink!"

JPS Tanakh 1917

Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, That are in the mountain of Samaria, That oppress the poor, that crush the needy, That say unto their lords: 'Bring, that we may feast.'

New American Standard 1977

Hear this word, you cows of Bashan who are on the mountain of Samaria, Who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, Who say to your husbands, “Bring now, that we may drink!”

Jubilee Bible 2000

Hear this word, ye cows of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, who say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink.

King James 2000 Bible

Hear this word, you cows of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, who say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink.

American King James Version

Hear this word, you cows of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy, which say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink.

American Standard Version

Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, that oppress the poor, that crush the needy, that say unto their lords, Bring, and let us drink.

Brenton Septuagint Translation

Hear ye this word, ye heifers of the land of Basan that are in the mountain of Samaria, that oppress the poor, and trample on the needy, which say to their masters, Give us that we may drink.

Douay-Rheims Bible

Hear this word, ye fat kine that are in the mountains of Samaria: you that oppress the needy, and crush the poor: that say to your masters: Bring, and we will drink.

English Revised Version

Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy, which say unto their lords, Bring, and let us drink.

Webster's Bible Translation

Hear this word, ye heifers of Bashan, that are in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy, which say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink.

World English Bible

Listen to this word, you cows of Bashan, who are on the mountain of Samaria, who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, who tell their husbands, "Bring us drinks!"

Young's Literal Translation

Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, Who are in the mountain of Samaria, Who are oppressing the poor, Who are bruising the needy, Who are saying to their lords: 'Bring in, and we do drink.'
+2 # Steer a Wide BerthDoug Brown 2022-06-17 18:09
Steer a wide berth from:
From Brother Nathaniel
From Harnass
Both dark and dingy.
Both exemplify an evil seedy grasp.
-9 # You naked Israeli TROLL and the run-of-the-mill Zionis evangelicalMoronHaarnaś 2022-06-17 22:58
Quoting Doug Brown:
Steer a wide berth from:
From Brother Nathaniel
From Harnass
Both dark and dingy.
Both exemplify an evil seedy grasp.


Doug Braune. Brother Nathaniel in not on this forum yet, but maybe he should be. Unlike me, he is Jewish and knows his Jewish staff even better than me from Pittsburg perspective where he grew up, whereas I am all NYC, Brooklyn and DC. Hats off to him for his courage!
+19 # PutinDoug Brown 2022-06-17 18:06
Putin a pretty bright cup-cake.
Sharp accurate analysis.
-2 # They say -Rush 2022-06-17 17:50
You can never go home, again.

But I know a gal who has a set of Ruby slippers.

She just clicks her heels and - we go home again.

I love that show. Wizard of Oz.
-9 # KirbySammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-06-17 17:39
Kirby's I meant I don't know what Joe what kind of fight he's looking at but I have no army I have no weapons I have no friends find someone else to fight with Joe to get to feeling like they're trash it's not me I'm not your enemy Mr Biden I voted for you and your security establishment is causing all this friction and all these problems don't trust the secret service Joe there's a problem there is a problem they are the problem
-6 # Big wake up call for me todaySammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-06-17 17:36
I found out they took my social security checks plus they're cleaning I owe them $21,000 total they overpaid me I should have not been getting money for 2 years they're going to be taken away my medical insurance I found this all online when I went to change my direct deposit today they won't let me live in peace they won't let me have a peaceful coexistence here so I wrote to Trump three or four times I know he's not the president now but he's the only one I know to trust to write to about delicate situation stuff is this I had a problem with the curb these years ago now he's living in the White House I was treated as trash and garbage by a robin I think it's his sister I'm not sure she had Brothers Mark and John she claimed to be in witchcraft I had a crush on her she said I was trash and garbage and an embarrassment to her now John's in the White House you see what kind of problems I have I had a Russian friend from online for 4 years I had to tell her today not to come and I even told her I think they should start doing nuclear test again on the islands course that was me being very very upset and disappointed I just wish I could be liked like everybody else I don't want to be hated I'm heading to being homeless without medical insurance with diabetes I'm going to die horrific death
+5 # RE: Big wake up call for me todayJFY 2022-06-17 19:23
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Sammy, get a lawyer as soon as possible. Like yesterday. Forget about Trump and get a lawyer who can help you now.
+4 # No.lmschofield44@hotmail.com 2022-06-17 19:37
Get a job! If you can engage in this site, and make comments, you should be able to hold down a job. Even if it is wrapping silverware in a restaurant. GET A JOB and get some purpose in life!
+5 # I’m a former social worker!lmschofield44@hotmail.com 2022-06-17 19:48
I still say people need purpose to get up in the morning and move through life. Anyone who sits in a basement & types out crap, has no purpose and certainly doesn’t deserve a government check. You can do something. I am tired of paying for people who are using my tax dollars to feed their addiction… including the lottery!
Get a job!
+9 # Russia/Putin = CompetitorJayBird60 2022-06-17 17:27
The globalists wanted no competition and the battles are just beginning. Pro Tip: God wins.
+5 # War is...DaveB 2022-06-17 17:21
THEATER! The world is "their" stage and none of this has to happen, the actors make it happen it's all artificial so we give them more power and control
-13 # Communist PropagandaGQHTRS2021 2022-06-17 17:16
Nothing but Communist Propaganda talking points, The CCP & Putin are one, working hand in hand, Make No Mistake America, The CCP & Putin ( Russia ) are your enemies period, Only treasonous useful idiots don't see these facts.
+4 # Once KGB, always KGBLoki 2022-06-17 21:26
GQHT, no one's saying Putin is a nice guy, not the point, and once KGB, always KGB. That said, you have understand that if Russia had signed a security pact with Mexico, with the ability to put missiles on our Texas border, we would not allow that to happen. You've clearly not done your homework on the fact that our gov't has turned against us and much worse is coming. Fight to the last breath and take as many of them out with you before you (we) check out.
+1 # You may want to do some homework LokiCarla 2022-06-18 07:38
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I venture to say these gentlemen know more on this subject than you so you may learn something...

https://citizens.news/627305.html
+1 # Loki 1 Carla 0Dolph 2022-06-19 20:48
Carla, you're a strange bag of right and wrong.
+21 # What I heard....HOOVER 2022-06-17 16:39
Friday, March 13th 2020. Walking into a local Aldis food store, and seeing shelves emptying on everything. A mother with 2 toddlers frantically looking for anything she needed and a line of people waiting to check out, I heard the Holy Spirit speak pertaining America. " You have lived as a Queen enthroned, but no longer." When the Holy Spirit TRULY speaks a prophetic word to you, you will always remember every single little detail about it. It was terrifying to see empty shelves, but more so to hear the heart of the Father. Putin is right once again. Into the Great Tribulation we go. The return of Jesus Christ keeps our head and eyes looking up. Much love, blessings and peace to you all.
+3 # Look Up...Dolph 2022-06-17 20:12
... your redemption draweth neigh. Looking for the Blessed Hope. Some are looking for the A/C and the trib.
-2 # You Dolph...Carla 2022-06-18 07:11
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are fooling yourself (and attempt to lure others with you) but you are entitled to your opinion.

Interesting though that my comments to you on the subject have been in kindness and meant to be helpful. You seem to be mocking...
# Carla, I mocked you?Dolph 2022-06-19 20:55
Please tell me where. If so, sorry. I wouldn't say your greeting to me, You Dolph, was sweet as candy. Pretty cool though.
-4 # Safe places on NATOdaniel_martin 2022-06-18 01:11
ALASKA Portugal Greece
# Alaska??Dolph 2022-06-19 20:59
I hear the water's just like Bermuda, but they're going back to Russia!
+5 # LolAzrael76 2022-06-17 16:28
You were on a roll don't stop now!!
+14 # WWIIIVercinge 2022-06-17 15:29
When Jews Run A Country
June 16 2022
When Jews run a country your nation’s on a psychiatric couch.

BROTHER NATHANAEL: I grew up in Judaism and all Jews are on Prozac.

They invented it…for themselves…the most neurotic people walking the face of the earth.

The latest episode of Jewish neurosis is brought to the American goys by Avril Haines, Director of National Intelligence.

This Jew from New York’s Upper West Side told the Jew-riddled US Senate that “insight” into how Ukraine uses American military assets is “hard to tell.”

That’s a no-brainer.

It instantly goes on the global black market and the corrupt Jews running the Ukrainian government stash the cash in their Swiss bank accounts, etc.

https://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1543
-1 # Freud's Psychology...Dolph 2022-06-17 20:20
...it's their religion along with Marxism. Strange Darwin wasn't Jewish...or was he?
+4 # RE: WWIIIEddamnit 2022-06-17 17:11
I know their history, they have been doing this for thousands of years, destroying nations from within then looting them and leaving them as dust to blow away with the wind.
+2 # God said,Dolph 2022-06-17 20:28
"As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the elect, they are beloved for the (fore) fathers' sake, Rom.11:28. Two thirds die in the coming trib, Zach.13:8,9. It's ok to understand the Jew but don't forget to love your neighbor.
+7 # routed the neo-Nazi'sMein.Dingus 2022-06-17 15:24
...took out the subterranean network centers of local human traffic 'n , Frank'n labs , took out NWO power brokers in part... Putin wears a white hat , w/minimal casualties as unfortunate as they are. What will he do with the space weapons that just hit his GASPROM facility? Weather control , food crimes , mass extermination of cattle herds via microwave attack.
# Yea, but...Dolph 2022-06-17 20:35
...tragically, the Ruskies will attack the US and stay awhile. Biden's and elite's fault...oops, actually God's judgment. All's good if you have your ticket to Heaven.
+54 # OuchAdiff5466 2022-06-17 15:03
This won’t end well for us.
But can I share something that happened to me the other day? I will anyways ;)

I was stressed about all of this conflict and coming food shortages (which really suck for me as a restaurant owner) and decided to thank God for everything I have. I just started singing to Him and praising Him and something happened that has never happened before. Maybe I’d never taken this approach. I know I haven’t actually.
All of the sudden as I was singing a great joy came over me and a peace I’ve never truly FELT. It was awesome. Really awesome!
So I’m no longer worrying about these crisis. He flat out “told me” in the feelings He bestowed upon this sinner “I’ve got this. I’ve got everything under control”.
If you’d told me this would happen to me 5 years ago before I was saved I’d have thought you were crazy. But I cannot lie or face the lake of fire. So believe me when I say you should lay your worries at the foot of the cross and trust The Most High. He still performs miracles. His arms aren’t short. He loves us.
Note: it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t prepare as much as you personally can. He helps those who help themselves. But give him thanks and true PRAISE.
Love y’all!
+2 # Yea!judith L 2022-06-18 11:14
You speak true... God comes to us in our praise and thanksgiving. Humble hearts seek the Lord, and yes, He is in control. we are being pruned of our pride and disobedience. I, for one don't want a return to former "normal" times.
+2 # Amen!Igorbzo 2022-06-18 07:34
Praise His Holy Name... Aleluya to the Lamb of GOD
+9 # Beautiful storyDoug Brown 2022-06-17 18:02
Great story. Thank you.
+14 # Look upRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-06-17 16:02
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Look up on a clear night.

God created the (currently-93-billion-light-years-wide-and-growing) universe and all the life therein just by speaking.

I'm thinking He can handle a few problems on Earth.

It's like you are watching a play and an idiot interrupts the play trying to tell you a different storyline when we all know how it ends.

"And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."

Rev 20
+25 # Amen and Amen!!DesertGirl 2022-06-17 15:57
I praise the Lord everyday! I've had two miracles in the last two weeks and me a sinner God listens to.
Now is the time for prayer warriors to get praying!
And may God bless and keep you Hal Turner!
+17 # RE: Ouchtslinger 2022-06-17 15:23
Big Amen brother!

Here's a quick test of how blessed you really are if you have any/all of these things:
Light- when you flip a switch.
Water- when you turn a handle.
Sanitation- whether by flush or by deep hole.
Transport- if you hear a roar when you turn a key.
Comfort- if there is someone you can hug.
And the list goes on- a bed to lie on, shoes and clothes, a roof to shield the rain, heating and air conditioning, and on and on. When we break it down- we have it pretty good still.
+10 # RE: Ouchpaulattahoe 2022-06-17 15:21
Absolutely Amen! This will not be good for all of us, but everything is falling into place as God intended it to be.
+12 # RE: OuchBeenThere 2022-06-17 15:06
Amen brother.........
+6 # that checks outwherami 2022-06-17 14:49
seems to go along with your other information about next week.
and there is only 6 weeks left of parts and food
+5 # Exactly As Plannedszutavern@yahoo.com 2022-06-17 14:44
Multi=polar world is EXACTLY what Lucifarian elites have been planning. Has the Anti-Christ been kicked out of Heaven? I hope so, lets get this party started for the elect's sake the time has been shortened or there would be no flesh alive.
-3 # IMHODolph 2022-06-17 20:51
The trib begins after the rapture because the A/C can't appear until he (Church) that restrains the mystery of iniquity is taken out of the way. Then the A/C will appear and make or confirm a 7 year peace treaty with Israel. Yes, the church is a "he" because we are the body of Christ. The Holy Spirit never leaves the earth because many of the left behind will be saved when they realize they missed the rapture, 2Thes.2:3-8 (imho)
+1 # █▓▒░ It works like this ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-06-17 22:36
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You, and your pastors, were taught Bible lessons from an occultist.

The pre-trib concept was never taught throughout all church history. No. This complex lie, and damnable heresy, was set forth by a man named John Nelson Darby, the father of this cult.

You do not study the Bible. You follow the directions of the deceived.
-1 # Pale PoneyDolph 2022-06-18 10:34
Daniel wrote, in the time of the end, knowledge shall increase and men shall run to and fro, Dan.12:3. Just use common sense, there are 5 scriptures that say we Christians are not appointed unto wrath: 1Thes.5:9, 1:10; 2:16; Rom.5:9, 9:22,23; Eph.2:3. Three verses say to comfort yourselves with these words, referring to the wrath to come:1Thes.4:8; 5:11; 2Thes.2:17. Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles wrote, "We are eagerly awaiting for Him to return as our Savior. He will take our weak mortal bodies and change them into glorious bodies like his own," Phil.3:20,21. During the Olivet Discourse, Math.24, Jesus is speaking to the Jews about the 2nd advent, years before Paul was given all the N.T. doctrine. God has unfinished business with the Jews who rejected Him almost 2,000 years ago and who killed Him and all the prophets, 1Thes.2:15. Compare them to the Blood- washed Church, filled with the Holy Spirit, His body, His brothers and sisters, citizens of Heaven and joint heirs with Him, to rule and reign with Him as kings and priests. The Jews, on the other hand, have not completed the 70 weeks of Daniel that were given to them in Daniel 9:23 but still have one week remaining. What bridegroom would send his bride through hell just before their wedding banquet? And what is the point of a rapture at the end of the 7 years of God's wrath?? Would those Christians be prepared to rule and reign on earth? I don't think soooo. GB
-1 # █▓▒░ Your "IMHO" is garbage ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-06-18 12:56
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Your brainwashing is so complete that you do not even
realize that Jesus Himself even warned not to listen to
people like you... (The lie of His “secret” arrival)

“Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is
in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the
inner rooms!’ do not believe it. For as the
lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west,
so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Matt 24:26

ALSO:

MATT 24:
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days...”
(Notice “WHEN”... and AFTER WHAT...
come on now rub both your brain cells together and see if you can figure this out...)

shall
the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the
heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:
and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they
shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with
power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds,
from one end of heaven to the other.

AFTER the tribulation of those days...” With no make believe pre-trib
completed mustering of your lies.


The scriptures clearly state that there is only 1 harvest.
+1 # Yes, PalehorseDolph 2022-06-19 17:32
I agree with those scriptures but they speak of Christs return WITH the Church. They in no way negate the pre-trib rapture. Many will be saved during the tribulation, they're called "the great multitude" in Revelation.
-6 # Since you and I agree on this pre-tribulation rupture thing, MAYBEHaarnaś 2022-06-17 23:19
you can bury your hatchet in this virgin obsession matter that you have and have some peace? Since Pastor Dolph and others who are not even heretical pastors, but just clueless heretics, can post anything they want here, why don't we agree that I have identical privileges here and the right as a regular Catholic bloke to post Catholic (not mine) biblical Truths as I see fit. You do not have to leave me alone, but just cut Holy Virgin Mary, the spouse of the Holy Spirit some slack and avoid the fate that awaits you if you do not (see Proverbs 8:35-36).
# █▓▒░ Your "IMHO" is garbage ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-06-17 22:00
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Just proof of your John Nelson Darby Zionist
inspired deception promoted and brought forth
via. C. I. Scofield the adulterer and lier that he was.
Your nonsense is so far off base and disproven
that your eyes are blinded.


Quote:
(Church) that restrains the mystery of iniquity

Well you got that part way off base as the church does not
do the restraining. If so, then look at the track record so far!

Are you kidding??

Archangel Michael is the restrainer as he is the only one
powerful to do so, and not the perthitic weak church that
exists today.

Your "humble opinion" counts for absolutely nothing. What
counts is the truth.

You are on the milk and not the meat.
+1 # Death and Hell HorseDolph 2022-06-18 10:49
Are you saying that Michael and his armies have done a poor job of restraining evil? You will experience how bad things will get when the Body of Christ exits this world.

BTW, the Church is mentioned 19 times in Revelation Chapters 1-3, but not once during the tribulation, Chapters 4-19. GB
-1 # █▓▒░ Your "IMHO" is garbage ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-06-18 11:32
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Look how you twist my words.

YOU SAID: "(Church) that restrains the mystery of iniquity..."

I RESPONDED: "...church does not
do the restraining. If so, then look at the track
record so far! Are you kidding??

(Meaning, where is the evidence in this God
forsaken land?)

AND...
"...Archangel Michael is the
restrainer as he is the only one
powerful (enough) to do so, and not the perthitic weak church that exists today."

All of the other verses you reference have absolutely nothing to do with a pre-trib. Not
one of them.

Scripture plainly states there is 1 harvest and
that is on the last day.

wherefore; "...work out your own salvation
with fear and trembling."

Philippians 2:

Tares and the Wheat---
“ Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” Matt 13:30

It's that simple.

Did Jesus and the Apostles teach a pre-trib? NO.
# Pale poneyDolph 2022-06-19 21:22
Give me one scripture that says Michael is the restrainer and that he is going to be "taken out of the way". You said, if the Church is the restrainer, he has done a pretty poor job. I would say most of the progress of the world took place in Western Civilization, more specifically Northern Europe and finally in America where the pilgrims landed.
+11 # YepTexasWolf 2022-06-17 14:34
This is all true. The current "Grand Chessboard" strategy cannot succeed.

 

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