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Putin Speech Told Ukraine to Halt Attacks; Ukraine Attacked Harder - Now, Iskander-M's Coming in from Russia

Putin Speech Told Ukraine to Halt Attacks; Ukraine Attacked Harder - Now, Iskander-M's Coming in from Russia

In his landmark speech at yesterday's ceremony to accept four formerly Ukrainian regions into Russia, President Vladimir Putin told Ukraine to Cease-Fire and return to the negotiating table.  He pointed out that the four territories are "now Russian citizens, FOREVER."   Instead of stopping its attacks, Ukraine attacked worse.

Russia told Ukraine not to attack the areas that had the Referendums, after the referendums were completed, or the Hammer would be dropped. People are now being killed across the referendum areas by Ukraine shelling. Donetsk today,. Across city is being hit. What is Russia going to do now?

Apparently, what Russia is going to do now is answered: trainloads of Russian Iskander-M hypersonic missiles are now entering the Kherson Region.  Video below shows one such trainload:

Iskander-M

This is a Variant for the Russian Armed Forces Iskander missile forces, with two 9M723 quasi-ballistic missiles with published range 415 km, rumored 500 km. Speed Mach 6–7, flight altitude up to 6–50 km, nuclear capable stealth missile, controlled at all stages, not ballistic flight path.

Immediately after the launch and upon approach to the target, the missile performs intensive maneuvering to evade anti-ballistic missiles. The missile constantly maneuvers during flight as well.

These missiles are REAL power.  This is very heavy military weaponry; not some rinky-dink token of power.  Ukraine is bringing this upon itself.

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# RE: Putin Speech Told Ukraine to Halt Attacks; Ukraine Attacked Harder - Now, Iskander-M's Coming in from RussiaDanbowser71 2022-10-02 13:18
The Russian Ministry of Defense is on the brink of internal liquidation with PMC Wagner head Prigozhin siding with Kadyrov, calling for "all these scumbags to be sent barefoot with machine guns straight to the front"!

This is an obvious reference to Russia's military leadership.

Undoubtedly, a circle has been created consisting of "hawks" who demand purges at the top of the Ministry of Defense and beyond.

Yevgeny Primakov, head of a government agency that manages relations with Russians abroad, wrote that "we gave a Russian city to the enemy" for the first time since World War II
-1 # I'm Prepared To Think...Doug Brown 2022-10-02 00:18
I'm prepared to think Putin may be a genius.

In warfare, Putin examples the wisdom
of the Holy Spirit, impregnating and
motivating his crafty plans.
So, he has a big bash in Moscow welcoming the new four new states.
He makes a big deal of "new Russian land."
He says inviolate, inviolate.
Yet, that's when a Ukrainian counter-offensive makes
dramatically contradicts his dictum!
Wow.
All this as his Iskander-M hypersonic missiles
fill hundreds of railway cars, moving inexorably
toward war. If the sight of innumerable train
cars loaded with Iskander-M, didn't fill one
with chills and the deepest shudder,
nothing will.
The wisdom of his move, dare I say. genius,
Is that psychologically,
it's like he's asking to be hit.
Then when he strikes with blinding ferocity,
he thinking will be understood.
See? Reticence is instructive.
God is with Putin. I can see the Holy Spirit's
distinct hand.
+2 # Ummmmmm nogjones7777 2022-10-02 14:17
Just because God uses someone to fight destroy evil, doesn't mean God is with them nor is the Holy Spirit. God repeatedly uses godless nations to punishment Isreal AND in Hezekiah used Assyria to destroy all the other evil nations all the way to Israel, and then kill 120000 Assyrian solders in 1 NIGHT JUST TO SHOW THE WORLD WHO WAS GOD OF THE UNIVERSE. PUTIN is a tool, but I don't believe a Christian. But I'd like him to be. For sure
-1 # From khersonAzrael76 2022-10-01 21:02
With love... Range of iskander would allow Kiev and lviv strikes
-3 # RE: From khersonmjc 2022-10-01 21:18
Quoting Azrael76:
With love... Range of iskander would allow Kiev and lviv strikes


Won't be many more of those trains.

They've been bled dry and cannot restock due to sanctions. But by all means......having burned through 78% of the inventory, blow the remaining 22% in a fit of pique so we can be done with that.....

https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/how_many_iskander_and_calibr_cruise_missiles_has_russia_left_quantitative_research-2825.html

"How Many "Iskander" and "Calibr" Cruise Missiles Has Russia Left (Quantitative Research)...
US Department of Defense estimates, russia still has up to 50% (and that would be the top end) of what it had stored before the invasion in all types of ordnance as of today
....
russian army has up to 200 9M723 ballistic missiles for "Iskander" OTBM. Before the active phase on February 24, there were around 900 missiles of this type."
-2 # Lmaogjones7777 2022-10-02 14:20
Provided that: 1 the people who count missles counted correctly and 2. The Russians didn't lie about the numbers. And we all know governments ALWAYS tell the truth.....right? Lmao
-2 # RE: From khersonmjc 2022-10-01 23:23
Ohhhh......our little Russian down-voter friends are BIG MAD about that!

I'm dispassionate as to the outcome of a war between the two most corrupt states in Europe.

But someone.....cannot accept the reality of how that is playing out.

I love it! Go ever further out on a limb denying reality. It's so much sweeter when the truth can no longer be denied. As engineer (which defines my belief system)......these are the moments i savor.


Seethe.
Watch.
-2 # RE: From khersonClintm 2022-10-02 09:48
Quoting mjc:
Ohhhh......our little Russian down-voter friends are BIG MAD about that!

I'm dispassionate as to the outcome of a war between the two most corrupt states in Europe.

But someone.....cannot accept the reality of how that is playing out.

I love it! Go ever further out on a limb denying reality. It's so much sweeter when the truth can no longer be denied. As engineer (which defines my belief system)......these are the moments i savor.


Seethe.
Watch.

Your stupidity is astonishing go die somewhere
-2 # One must ask...JayBird60 2022-10-01 20:43
Why are most all video and photo stills of consequential items or events fuzzy/blurry? Why does blood from war casualties appear to always be the color of tomatoes soup? Real blood doesn't look like that depending on the time frame. It's mostly crimson or darker. Something seems off.
+2 # RE: One must ask...mjc 2022-10-01 21:25
Quoting JayBird60:
Why are most all video and photo stills of consequential items or events fuzzy/blurry? Why does blood from war casualties appear to always be the color of tomatoes soup? Real blood doesn't look like that depending on the time frame. It's mostly crimson or darker. Something seems off.


The stills and videos are mostly from cheap cell phones.

These are not American combat photographers shooting Kodak Ektachrome or Fujicolor Pro 400.
-3 # LMAO!JayBird60 2022-10-01 22:08
There are no more "cheap" cell phones with cheap cameras.
+2 # RE: LMAO!mjc 2022-10-01 22:44
Quoting JayBird60:
There are no more "cheap" cell phones with cheap cameras.


NOT so. Here are the top 10 selling cell phones in Ukraine (you know......where the pictures are shot).

https://www.appbrain.com/stats/top-android-phones-tablets-by-country?country=UA

They're all Redmi's and Xiami's.

This is NOT America.
-4 # The entire war is bogusNathan 2022-10-01 21:12
Just another bogus story posted on this website to prolong the brainwashing that nuclear war is on the way. Just another " rumor of war " to
make it look like the Russians are going to attack at ant moment. And why, because war talk makes money, the more war talk, the more cashflow coming in, so keep the rumors of war coming.
-1 # #rogue_ 2022-10-02 08:04
The deep state needs some nuke go off in the EU and US. Then they can blame the very mass vaccine deaths on radiation.
+1 # OpsecAzrael76 2022-10-01 21:05
They blur stuff to obscure where the filming is from, who is around, they also censor the gore from certain sources.
-6 # I WAS THAT MAN THAT DAYMildB 2022-10-01 20:12
Joshua 23:10 One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, he it is that fighteth for you, as he hath promised you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymILH4GI7mA
-5 # WellMildB 2022-10-01 20:03
~
Here is a CHRISTIAN Bennetta Betbedal, she was one of those slaughtered by Muslims in San Bernardino.

When she was 18 years old her Christian family escaped Iran and the persecution there and NOW BECAUSE OF OBAMA INC , ITS HERE! MOZTEC VIOLENCE!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=964765230213677&set=a.100522349971307.875.100000406277362&type=3&hc_location=ufi



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That is all.....
+3 # RE: Putin Speech Told Ukraine to Halt Attacks; Ukraine Attacked Harder - Now, Iskander-M's Coming in from RussiaRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-10-01 19:56
.
Thinking the Special Military Operation is over now.

Now onto the Extra Special Military Operation
.
-4 # ROFLMAONda 2022-10-01 22:15
Quoting RockyMountainBeerMan:
.
Thinking the Special Military Operation is over now.

Now onto the Extra Special Military Operation
.


Hahahahahaha! Thanks, Love...So needed the laugh Tonite, for I know in my bones when something isn't quite right.

Monday makes me shiver.

But Tonite - We laugh out loud.

xo
-4 # Well HalMildB 2022-10-01 19:29
~
District 10 Mich

Has had nite time moves?

That is all.
+1 # You Know They Are Going To Scream.Doug Brown 2022-10-01 17:40
When Putin gets started you know there is
going to be some screaming.
As in belly-aching.
Putin hasn't really kicked it off yet.
I guess he is waiting.
+7 # RE: Putin Speech Told Ukraine to Halt Attacks; Ukraine Attacked Harder - Now, Iskander-M's Coming in from RussiaHope springs 2022-10-01 17:26
Russia’s patience is oft mistaken for weakness.
Russia has the will and fire power.
After Nordstream and the developing situation in Lyman, the time has come to show some serious fire power. Go on Russia. It’s a life and death struggle, and you cannot afford to lose to a bunch of Nazi-Zio-US scums.
+7 # Stupid bloody Ukrainian nazis ...DBBBB 2022-10-01 17:23
and stupid bloody Obamanation demonrats and demon EU/Nato... including the whore Trudeau and demon liberals in Canada... Rebuke these filth Lord and lay your sword against the Babylon whores of the earth...these greedy globalist rats only want to murder us all ...O Lord hear our prayers and send your mighty army and your mighty sword against these warmongering monsters...they do not want peace...help us Lord in Jesus Christ name! We are angry O Lord for they fill the earth with the blood of the innocent. We remember you said be angry and do not sin .. it is better to be hot or cold than lukewarm and now we see these innocent victims of this Nazi hatred for NO JUST CAUSE AGAINST THEM! Help them O Lord stand against this wickedness! The blood lusting Nazis have risen again because of operation paper clip and are spread upon the earth again!
+4 # Awesome restaurantjoe@tittiger.com 2022-10-01 17:13
Russia has a hell of a lot more patience than I would have. The City of London would have already been thermobaricly bombed if I were Putin.
-6 # And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.MildB 2022-10-01 17:11
~
6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. (assault rock)

Genesis 9
5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

This is the word of our Lord!
# What is that supposed to mean..DBBBB 2022-10-01 18:43
The only mark that should be upon those bloody ukraine/nato/eu/us/canada NAZI troops and bombs and killing equipment sent in by the west is a bloody nuke on the lot of them,,, they have been murdering for 8 years these innocent non catholic people and it is time to nuke the lot of these filthy globalist whores. And now these filth have been slaughtering mankind 2 years with the bloody clotshots... they don't deserve mercy or a mark on their foreheads for protection...they deserve the same blood on their heads with bullets in them that these poor innocent Donetsk and Luhansk people have had these 8 years! I mean what a text to put there, let them free with a mark on their head?? ..well I dissagree with that ...these bloody nazi/globalist should be judged ten times what they have done to the world...yes that includes all our leftist pig leaders that have taken part this butchery of the innocent!
-6 # Have any of you smelled Blood.MildB 2022-10-01 17:59
~
Then a few days, then a week.
The smell, gets you ready for the next.

Event, if you are legal to kill.

By State or God.

DEATH HAS A SMELL.

Numbers 9:6 And there were certain men, who were defiled by the dead body of a man, that they could not keep the passover on that day: and they came before Moses and before Aaron on that day:7 And those men said unto him, We are defiled by the dead body of a man: wherefore are we kept back, that we may not offer an offering of the LORD in his appointed season among the children of Israel?

Note: And William Wept
+8 # RE: Putin Speech Told Ukraine to Halt Attacks; Ukraine Attacked Harder - Now, Iskander-M's Coming in from RussiaHope springs 2022-10-01 17:02
Ukraine may not be in NATO.
But NATO already is in Ukraine.
And fighting disguised as Ukr troops.
Russia needs to deal with this..with a heavy hand.
-3 # Meanwhile in Moscow...jrd803 2022-10-01 16:30
The most recent from warnews247.gr

https://warnews247.gr/ektos-elegchou-i-katastasi-sfagi-sto-kremlino-gia-tin-itta-sto-liman-stinoun-sta-dyo-metra-a-geetha-a-ges-kai-stratigo-lapin-metaferontai-dekades-pyrinikoi-iskander/
# About WARNEWSla0508 2022-10-01 20:30
WARNEWS247.gr was a moderately good sources ---until the Greek govt decided to go along with sanctions (there has historically been a fairly close relationship between Greece and Russia), but after that I have noticed that they get their inflammatory stories about chaos in Russia and in the Russian war efforts directly from the propaganda department of Ukraine. It was a very abrupt change, I noticed.
-4 # the latestPSKYWAY 2022-10-01 16:01
At Pivdenny Buh direction Russian army shelled Stepova Dolyna, Myrne, Sukhiy Stavok, Olhyne and Arkhangelske, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report
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At Novopavlivka direction Russian army shelled Novosilka, Novopil, Prechystivka, Pavlivka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report
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At Avdiivka direction Russian army shelled Maryinka, Vodiane, Oleksandropil, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report
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At Bakhmut direction Russian army shelled Bakhmut, Zaitseve, Mykolaivka Druha, Paraskoviivka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report
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At Kramatorsk direction Russian army shelled Hryhorivka, Bilohorivka, Ivano-Daryivka, Zakitne, Rozdolivka and Spirne, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report
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At Slobozhanschyna direction Russian army shelled Strilecha, Ridkodub, Kuchkivka, Ohrymivka, Vilhuvatka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report
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Russian army conducted 4 missile strikes, 15 airstrikes and over 85 shelling with MLRS against over 50 settlements across Ukraine, including Bilohorivka, Novomykolaivka, Blahodativka, Sukhiy Stavok and Odradivka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report
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Destruction in Mykolaiv as result of Russian missile strikes
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Kirovohradska Oblast, Dnipro, Dnipropetrovska Oblast, Kherson, Khersonska Oblast, Mykolaiv, Mykolayivska Oblast, Poltavska Oblast(09:10). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!
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Zakarpattia Oblast, Ternopil, Ternopilska Oblast, Chernivetska Oblast, Rivne, Rivnenska Oblast(16:14). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!
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Ivano-Frankivsk, Ivano-Frankivska Oblast, Lviv, Lvivska Oblast, Khmelnytska Oblast, Volynska Oblast(16:12). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!
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Kyiv Oblast(15:47). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!
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Chernihivska Oblast(15:47). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!
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Zhytomyr, Zhytomyrska Oblast, Vinnytska Oblast(15:46). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!
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Kyiv(15:45). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!
+1 # PSKYWAYDoug Brown 2022-10-01 17:46
Comprehensive.
Explicit.
Thank you exceedingly.
Great report.
Thank you.
-2 # Those nukes ..Lexie 2022-10-01 16:01
Russia has been warning Nato and that cesspool or whats left of it Ukraine since this started .I think initially the warnings were counter measures to Nato interfering and as time goes by that threat gets more public and in your face ..Russia will reach its snap point soon because well you know the heightened attacks today tell Russia the nutwits are not listening and anyway how long is a ruler ... This ,come on Russia game , played by Zelensky and his Nato puppet allies has me thinking they might have something up their sleeve so Putin errs to caution because if I'm thinking that then he, Putin, did way before me.
-3 # History repeats itself...sixshots 2022-10-01 15:19
( just a neat video )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGykQfFt7oM
-13 # so why ?Nathan 2022-10-01 14:07
So how come Kyiv & Lviv are not being Nuked right now. I thought Russia wasn't joking, I thought immediately after any part of Russia
(including the new states ) was attacked, that Russia was going to Nuke Kyiv & Lviv. What happened? Must of just been idle threats like all the others. Just a
" Rumor of war ", like all the others.
-1 # I Believe...it is ok I will tell you ..DBBBB 2022-10-01 19:19
What is wrong is that Putin is not the NAZI killers these western PIGS ARE they are NAZI WHORES AND PIGS WHO DRINK THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS. Putin has no desire for war but God will unleash Russia and His other mountains...even Canada has troops with all the Nato troops with the NAZI Ukraine pigs...they are all together in this slaughter and it includes all of us not part of it. There are those separated by God...Multitudes in the valley of decision... we all notice those who don't care and those who do.
-1 # Putin is just like the rest of emNathan 2022-10-01 20:38
Get your head out of your ass already. Putin is just as evil as all the rest. He's playing a part like all the rest. He is told to jump and like all the rest he says how high master.
-4 # RE: so why ?Eddamnit 2022-10-01 17:42
This is a scripted football game.
-5 # Russia was going to Nuke Kyiv & Lviv.oldschool 2022-10-01 16:22
Where did you hear that ? During the show Hal mentioned Brussels, London, Washington DC.
+1 # RE: so why ?Avanarts 2022-10-01 14:18
No, President Putin said there would be reprisals. He never said anything about "nuking" Kiev or any other city.

You are the one who put those words where they were not before.
+1 # there is a whole showNathan 2022-10-01 14:27
there is a whole show dedicated to Russia stating they are going to nuke those two cities first. I suggest you get the facts before you waste others time.
-4 # RE: there is a whole showAvanarts 2022-10-01 14:50
A "show" dedicated to saying that Russia will use nukes is not the same as Russia formally saying that they will use nukes.

Please use a little of the grey matter between your ears.
-2 # RE: so why ?Paul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 14:25
Quoting Avanarts:
No, President Putin said there would be reprisals. He never said anything about "nuking" Kiev or any other city.

You are the one who put those words where they were not before.

Nukes are NOT REQUIRED. The MACHINE is doing an AWESOME job killing more nazis. Every ten seconds the MACHINE goes BOOM. Another artillery shell. More DEAD nAzis. Already these units Killed over 200 thousand of these SCUM. Nukes are NOT REQUIRED at all. The MACHINE is working GREAT. BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........Suck on that nazis. Russia is going to KILL every one of you SCUM. Only six hundred thousand of you left to kill. Its gonna be Fun Fun Fun. BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM.........BOOM........BOOM......... Pieces a shit. DIE!!!!
-2 # So where are these so called "reprisals"Nathan 2022-10-01 14:22
probably more rumors of war!
-4 # First Russian city under Ukrainian control: Russians flee Lyman amid shellingWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-10-01 13:55
One day after Russia signed a union with Donetsk and Lugansk, Ukrainians invaded Russian territory and captured the first Russian city, Krasny Liman. This is exactly what happened today and this is what Moscow will emphasize in the coming days by announcing a large-scale counterattack. It is an attack and occupation of Russian territory in accordance with the ratification of the referendums and the decree of Putin.

The Russian Ministry of Defense announced a while ago that Russian forces managed to open a corridor and withdraw from the city. This fact is considered a great success given the situation. The Russian forces withdrew amid heavy shelling and heavy Ukrainian fire, and of course not without bloodshed. There are losses.

The fall of the city of Krasny Liman opens the gate to Lugansk and now the Russians are urgently called to regroup, reinforce and stabilize the front because they risk losing what they had won months ago in Donbass. The Ukrainians will now reach the border with Lugansk and hit Lysihansk. Unless the Russians manage to keep them in Kremina, an area where they are setting up the last line of defense.

Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs: Retreat Ordered - "Ukrainians had the upper hand"
According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the troops were forced to leave the city due to the threat of encirclement. In particular, the Russian Ministry of Defense reports that Russian troops and Donbas militias were forced to withdraw from their defensive positions, as Kyiv launched a large-scale attack targeting the region."Due to the looming threat of encirclement, allied troops withdrew from the settlement of Krasni Liman and deployed to more advantageous positions ," the ministry said in a statement.

Earlier, the head of the Donetsk People's Republic, Denis Pushilin, described the situation in the city as "alarming" as he said the city has been "half-encircled" by Ukrainian troops. Ukrainian forces lost more than 200 soldiers as well as five tanks and five infantry vehicles during the attack on Krasny Liman, the military added. Despite the losses, the Ukrainian command sent reserves and achieved "significant superiority in men" in the direction of the attack, the Russian ministry also said.

Earlier today, the Ukrainian army announced that it had entered the city. He previously announced that he had "encircled" several thousand Russian soldiers in Liman, a railway hub of critical importance to Moscow.
-1 # Great clarification White LightningDoug Brown 2022-10-01 14:54
For those of us trying to follow events,
Your reports are very valuable.
Not second guessing Putin, but wondering
about his strategy. Wondering what use
he will find for his very capable Iskander-M
Hypersonic Missiles?
-4 # Luhansk not Luganskoldschool 2022-10-01 14:11
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-2 # Actually, in Russianla0508 2022-10-01 20:36
the city and region are spelled Луганск, which is pronounced LuGansk, not LuHansk.
-3 # I get it,oldschool 2022-10-02 01:25
I was going by the spelling off from Google maps
-21 # Evil ForcesKing Goro 2022-10-01 13:45
Putin is bringing all evil to him now. Wagner Russian Nazis, Chechen Muslim rapists, and North Korean slaves. He is now adding thousands of pathetic illiterate serfs as cannon fodder. The primitive forces he has have to fight a World War 1 style campaign of slogging it out. This also quenches his thirst for blood and fulfills the oaths sworn by Ramzan and his Muslim rapists to Putin.
+1 # We're you dropped as a childSrmay72 2022-10-01 14:06
You ever seen Chechen fighters fight? Yes they are demons from the pits of hell but they are the toughest SOBs I've seen. You need to watch the field doctors amputate arms with no pain meds at least I know they are evil when you fight backstabbers that's evil
God can use the evilest men to further his will remember the demons God has used you really need to dust off your Bible remember God puts a hook into Russia it don't say they wanted to
-12 # RE: Putin Speech Told Ukraine to Halt Attacks; Ukraine Attacked Harder - Now, Iskander-M's Coming in from RussiaHope springs 2022-10-01 13:11
I’m going to play the devil’s advocate and lay it clearly that Russia is no match for the US in.:-
A) Surveillance (satellite, drones and AWACS).
B) Accuracy of artillery fire. (HIMARS—laser and satellite guided shells)
C) Coordination and communication of warfare, especially between the different services.
2. Russia MUST go nuclear tactically immediately ,keeping the strategic deterrence alert.
3. No sense in celebrating in Moscow when you are losing precious lives on the battlefield.
# Turn off your Tel-A-Visionoldschool 2022-10-01 14:28
And do some research. Try this for starters ;

https://thesurvivalmovement.com/what-really-happened-to-the-uss-donald-cook-in-the-black-sea/
-1 # RE: Turn off your Tel-A-Visionjrd803 2022-10-01 16:03
Ah yes, Thomas Bearden often alluded to Russia's advanced understanding of electromagnetics. Even back in the mid-1980's.

Thanks for the link!

Kippis
+3 # Harderchip 2022-10-01 14:17
Undoubtedly Russia has made some
mistakes on the battlefield. You learn
from your mistakes. Satan thought he
had God whipped when Jesus died on
the cross.. SURPRISE!! As Yogi Berra
said " it aint over till it's over. God is in
charge. NATO and the USSA will have
more fight than they can handle before
this is all over.
+11 # Really?Lexie 2022-10-01 13:47
If the US is so mighty why is it hiding behind Ukraine and Nato's skirts ? Why hide it intentions at all? Why has the US failed to win a war ever except that one time they dropped two nukes on Japan ? Sure you can argue the aim was to decimate countries like Iraq or Libya and feed its gargantuan glutinous military industrial complex BUT never have they completed a war they started INFACT I would say that the US has spent so much time creating and enjoying the havoc that it has no idea how to actually win any war. So for all the weapons etc etc the US and the rest of the west is useless.
# RE: Putin Speech Told Ukraine to Halt Attacks; Ukraine Attacked Harder - Now, Iskander-M's Coming in from RussiaPaul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 13:31
Quoting Hope springs:
I’m going to play the devil’s advocate and lay it clearly that Russia is no match for the US in.:-
A) Surveillance (satellite, drones and AWACS).
B) Accuracy of artillery fire. (HIMARS—laser and satellite guided shells)
C) Coordination and communication of warfare, especially between the different services.
2. Russia MUST go nuclear tactically immediately ,keeping the strategic deterrence alert.
3. No sense in celebrating in Moscow when you are losing precious lives on the battlefield.

Enjoy while you can gringo. Russia is going to win this. nAzis will be exterminated with predjudice. The MACHINE is still in action just for you. Boom.......Boom........Boom.........Boom Die you nazi. Boom.......Boom........Boom........Boom
Russia is gonna KILL every one of you. The MACHINE runs 24/7. Boom.....Boom.........Boom.........Boom LOL
-1 # So Kurzleeoldschool 2022-10-01 14:41
Your going to live threw all the Boom Boom's ?
-2 # RE: So KurzleePaul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 18:33
Quoting oldschool:
Your going to live threw all the Boom Boom's ?

I wanna be the trigger man. But all jokes aside a guy such as yourself must know I am correct in what I say. The body count in the last 6 months says it all. I aint on the nazi teams attacking kids and women in donbass. So I aint going to be on the recieving end of the BOOMs. Again you should know that. Get a grip buddy.
+7 # RE: Putin Speech Told Ukraine to Halt Attacks; Ukraine Attacked Harder - Now, Iskander-M's Coming in from RussiaAvanarts 2022-10-01 13:28
We don't have hypersonic missiles. They do and have proven the accuracy of their missiles at least twice in Ukraine already.

I would bet you have been smoking Hopium if you think they are "no match" for the US in any of the areas that you listed.
-1 # NATO won't waitMANYROUNDS 2022-10-01 13:10
I hear some knees knocking over in europe, don't you? Fear is a dangerous thing when in the hearts of men with thermonuclear weapons at their disposal. And yea, there are others that have brought this upon themselves and have far more guilt. these things have a way of returning upon one's own head. Fall on us they will say to the rocks.
+16 # How...Gulfcaptain 2022-10-01 12:59
How do you fight a war with limited energy, no manufacturing base, dwindling food, a broken supply chain and rising inflation?

NUKES.

Get ready folks.
+15 # Prediction...Gulfcaptain 2022-10-01 12:39
As crazy as things have become and as insane policies from NATO have been (self destructive) how much are you willing to bet that NATO admits Ukraine as part of NATO.

Any takers?

On the surface, this would seem to be a crazy move guaranteeing a NATO Article 5 war. However, since Putin check mated the West with the annexation of the Donbas, it may be thought that by bringing Ukraine under the umbrella of NATO protection that the war would come to a stalemate. Then NATO could slowly diminish Russia's coffers by forcing them to station large amounts of troops in the new "Russian Territory" for an indefinite amount of time all the while starting other "color revolutions" in neighboring countries bordering Russia.

This would bind up thousands of troops in Ukraine at the same time spread their military thin over other countries. Eventually, with the help of sanctions, the Russian economy would come under pressure with the hope that Putin would come under pressure and be removed.

I am sure there is a pro-Western Russian party just waiting in the wings to take over Russia if given the opportunity.

In the past, I would have thought this idea would be crazy. However, not today. Will Russia be check mated and forced to stand down if Ukraine was made a NATO member?

At this point, I don't think they can. So, Davos will get the war they desire. Russia will have no choice just like they had no choice but to invade Ukraine to save Russians living in the Donbas and Crimea.

WWIII will crush the markets. A lack of energy will close industry. A lack of food will cause riots and strife furthering the economic collapse. War will kill thousands if not millions of people. These are goals of the WEF / Davos group. For them, what's not to like? Guess we will have to have that "reset" after all.

ONLY when these Davos elite pedo banksters are threatened DIRECTLY will they back down. They care not for you and me. We are destined to eat crickets and die. However, they value their lives. Russia must make is clear that these scumbags will not be sipping their wine and eating their $3,000.00 cheese nibs safely in their underground cities. These MUST be targets along with their power centers, the REAL "decision making centers."

Only then, will the West stand down if only temporarily.
+4 # Predictionchip 2022-10-01 14:24
Good post and write up Gulf Captain
One can only hope Russia has some
bunker busters to nail some bankers,,
Neocons and politicians.
-2 # Nail some bankersoldschool 2022-10-02 01:38
scatter that gold among the Peasant's.
+12 # Good line of reasoning.Doug Brown 2022-10-01 13:14
I'm afraid what we are viewing is the lull
before the storm.
+1 # Radiological Survey Meter389rivka@gmail.com 2022-10-01 12:13
Inside meter and out side sensor calibrated and in position } Check
+12 # Russia proactiveSBGlett77 2022-10-01 12:10
.

Go.

"Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked."

Psalms 82
-22 # Prophecy 1987King Goro 2022-10-01 12:07
Gog will loose his arrows in the Autumn, killing many innoncents.
+9 # RE: Prophecy 1987Dan Edwards 2022-10-01 12:35
Quoting Dimitru Duduman:
Gog will loose his arrows in the Autumn, killing many innoncents.

Gog and Magog we're ancient cities in what we now call Turkey. If you draw a line North from Israel the line will pass right through the middle of Turkey not Russia, they will come down in the last day and attack the unwalled cities (Israel)
Find this prophecy in Ezekiel charters 38 and 39
-4 # RE: Prophecy 1987dnhq3behbnsaksasa 2022-10-01 12:57
There are other possibilities. For example, Russia and Turkey could sign a pact giving Turkey nuclear weapons.
-5 # RE: Prophecy 1987dnhq3behbnsaksasa 2022-10-01 13:01
Another possibility: The Americans could sign a pact with Turkey, giving them nuclear weapons. There is already an American nuke base (Incirlik Air Base) in Turkey which has maintained 50 tactical nuclear weapons since the Cold War.
# Turkeyoldschool 2022-10-01 17:06
I thought those nuke's were removed when the USSR removed their nuke's from Cuba.

Or did I miss something ?
+1 # RE: Prophecy 1987Dan Edwards 2022-10-01 12:41
Find this prophecy in Ezekiel charters 38 and 39
+1 # RE: Prophecy 1987Paul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 12:24
Quoting Dimitru Duduman:
Gog will loose his arrows in the Autumn, killing many innoncents.

Can you explain to us all here what is gog? What does that mean? We know zog (zionist occupying goverment) but what is gog?
-9 # GogKing Goro 2022-10-01 13:25
Thank you for asking. Peace and friendship to you. Gog is a title for a coalition including Russia that will come against Israel. Currently Putin is a good candidate for Gog but we do not know for certain. Based on your comments it seems you think Putin is weak so you would certainly not think he is Gog. You may be right.
-1 # RE: GogPaul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 13:35
Quoting Dimitru Duduman:
Thank you for asking. Peace and friendship to you. Gog is a title for a coalition including Russia that will come against Israel. Currently Putin is a good candidate for Gog but we do not know for certain. Based on your comments it seems you think Putin is weak so you would certainly not think he is Gog. You may be right.

Thank You for your explanation. I say the Putin is weak because he refuses to retaliate. I hope I am wrong also. Peace and friendship to you.
# ErrorKing Goro 2022-10-01 13:28
My apologies with no edit. Gog is a title for a man who also leads a coalition of nations by the same name.
-3 # RE: Prophecy 1987Vanqualls@yahoo.com 2022-10-01 12:45
The popular view is tge biblical Gog and Megog are Rysdia. I believe that is mistaken
Gog and Megog represent ancient Khazaria or modern day Ukraine, Georgia, and parts af Azerbajan
+1 # The Nations who follow SatanOccamsRazor 2022-10-01 12:34
“Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them” (Revelation 20:7-9).
-6 # RE: Putin Speech Told Ukraine to Halt Attacks; Ukraine Attacked Harder - Now, Iskander-M's Coming in from RussiaPaul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 12:06
Now everyone can sit and wait for the personal attacks to begin for me. It won't be too long for everyone to wait. The way I see it anyone that keeps attacking me supports nazis. I call to KILL THEM ALL. Some in this group have a problem with that. WHY?? As everyone can see I have NOT attacked anyone for their opinions. I only retaliate. Now we can wait for them to attack me again. It is getting sickening here having to tolerate it. Why dont you all let me be and have my opinion?
-7 # YesKing Goro 2022-10-01 13:32
Personal attacks are not a good thing. You are entitled to your opinion. I just differ when you say Gringo or AngloSaxon. That can be misconstrued as racist against white people. I am nor white but I love many white females who come to me for my gift.
-5 # RE: YesPaul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 14:17
Quoting Dimitru Duduman:
Personal attacks are not a good thing. You are entitled to your opinion. I just differ when you say Gringo or AngloSaxon. That can be misconstrued as racist against white people. I am nor white but I love many white females who come to me for my gift.

Those names I use are meant to be derogatory, a sign of contempt and defiance. I am white. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with skin color or anything like that. I hope this clears it up for you and everyone here. My contempt for this zog we have to live under words can not describe really. Thats the best I can do to show what I think of them. I hope everybody understands my motivation for those terms.
-1 # UnderstandKing Goro 2022-10-01 16:56
Thanks for clarifying. Use whatever words you wish, just friendly advice; maybe use zog or collective west, most people in common language have another definition for gringo or AngloSaxon.
-3 # Paul Kurzlee?Doug Brown 2022-10-01 13:24
One of the brightest, most astute, clearest,
thinkers...
One of the most intelligent commenters here.
Look forward to reading his war analysis.
Always on the same page.
Yes, Iskander-M's on their way.
They can't get there soon enough.
May they do their damage.
Decapitate Zelinski.
Stop this conflict...without prejudice.
+1 # It's simpleThe_Big_Guy 2022-10-01 12:32
There. Are. No. Nazis. In. Ukraine. They are posers, they don't do anything the national socialists did, nothing. They are nothing more than mercenaries and scoundrels
+2 # Putting lipstick on the Nazis is easy.paulattahoe 2022-10-01 14:00
Quoting The_Big_Guy:
There. Are. No. Nazis. In. Ukraine. They are posers, they don't do anything the national socialists did, nothing. They are nothing more than mercenaries and scoundrels


The Ukraine division of the Azov Battalion freely admits that they are a NAZI organization for war. They have been at war with the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk for many years, killing and burning many citizens.

Their Nazi reputation is not just a fixation by Putin. The Nazi monicker of the Azov Battalion goes far beyond Russia. They identify as a nationalist hate group From WW II.
-7 # CorrectKing Goro 2022-10-01 13:54
You are correct. The only Nazis in this campaign are Putins Wagner Russian Nazi mercenaries.
# RE: It's simplePaul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 12:48
Quoting The_Big_Guy:
There. Are. No. Nazis. In. Ukraine. They are posers, they don't do anything the national socialists did, nothing. They are nothing more than mercenaries and scoundrels

Whatever they call themselves they need to be exterminated post haste. They are trying to harm Russia and for that they ALL deserve to be KILLED. They wear nazi uniforms so what more proof do we need? KILL THEM.
+14 # Time To Vaporize Kyiv .Garyhines 2022-10-01 12:05
Time to vaporize Kyiv into Dust . They want to play these games . Zelensky horse shit signing to become part of NATO . Absolutely worthless the paper signed on means nothing. I send the Russian Bombers up and start a Massive Scale Bombing campaign .you also go after NATO Headquarters and bomb the living shit out of it.and also hit London. Then the United States unfortunately I don't see peace coming from them. Like said before their whole Bag is Death. You better get ready because it is coming.
-4 # Thank YOU AlexanderPaul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 11:58
Alexander Lukashenko is THE BEST leader on planet earth. Bar none. It would be such an honor to live in his country and be part of this amazing team of MEN that are now FINALLY standing their ground and FINALLY going to engage these anglosaxon nazi scum and hopefully kill every last one of them that refuse to surrender. With all these MEN and probably more it should push the nazi body count high into the sky hopefully into the 6 or 7 digit numbers. It is getting cold now too and these nato shitbags in their high heels might get a little chilly. Then they will ask for a ceasefire when they start getting wiped out in high numbers. These morons think it is still 2014. Problem for them is Russia aint going to grant them one this time unlike in 2014 Donesk Airport style. No No. This time Russia fights till the nazis are ALL dead. Go Russia Go. Hope the soldiers coming in on those trains have lots and lots of artillery shells with them just for these nazi pieces of shit. The MACHINE will soon be back in action. Heres how it goes...BOOM...10 seconds later BOOM... 10 seconds later.....BOOM 10 seconds later.....BOOM. Another shell. 10 seconds later....BOOM. More DEAD nazis. The assholes on the recieving end of this can't even catch their breath between rounds. It keeps them pinned down. And it goes around the clock 24/7 Its called THE MACHINE for good reason. It is super effective for killing large numbers of nazis. It moves slowly. Sometimes just a few feet in a day. But THE MACHINE keeps moving forward rolling over the dead nazi SCUM. Boom............Boom...........Boom......Boom......Boom.....Boom.......Boom..........Boom.............Boom WELCOME TO THE MACHINE you stoooopid nazis. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
+8 # For Crying Out Loud.Doug Brown 2022-10-01 11:54
They are just doing what they've been told to
do.
Biden.
Stoltenberg.
Truss.
Zelinski can't make peace.
He has been deluded.
Many must perish to accommodate his
delusion.
Its going to ramp up.
-2 # RE: For Crying Out Loud.Paul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 12:20
Quoting Doug Brown:
They are just doing what they've been told to
do.
Biden.
Stoltenberg.
Truss.
Zelinski can't make peace.
He has been deluded.
Many must perish to accommodate his
delusion.
Its going to ramp up.

Hopefully this week it will ramp up.
+20 # As you mentioned yesterday Hal,oldschool 2022-10-01 11:50
An utterly GIGANTIC escalation is about to begin.

I'm waiting for that first attack or false flag event here in America.
+5 # It's hard to understand ...The Infant Phenomenon 2022-10-01 11:46
WHY Ukrainians keep obeying these orders from Zelinsky. Is it just the Azov fighters? The Ukrainian army has been badly degraded. They are almost certainly not capable of another offensive.

Winter is in sight. Putin has said that he would cut or ALL gas supplies if they did not cease hostilities forthwith.

So WHO is continuing the fight?

I suppose it's possible that social pressure keeps even hopeless young men in line, knowing that if they refuse to fight (suicide) their lives will be unlivable later on.

But on the other hand, if they keep this up, Russia will have NO CHOICE but to destroy the WHOLE of the Ukraine's infrastructure--and I'm talking about sewage, running water, railroad, highways, bridges, power supplies and water supplies. They are going to find themselves in the Stone Age. Without sewage, they'll have epidemics. And winter will be bitter.

WHO is calling the shots and WHO is obeying those orders?
+10 # WHO is calling the shots ?oldschool 2022-10-01 12:31
The HIGH up's in NATO and America are taking orders from the HIGHER up's in the Banking World. Rothschild's, Rockefeller's, the world bank, the IMF, ect, ect. All wars are Bankers Wars.
And,, All of these Bankers work and do the bidding of their Boss, their god, LUCIFER.
+1 # RE: It's hard to understand ...Paul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 12:03
Quoting The Infant Phenomenon:
WHY Ukrainians keep obeying these orders from Zelinsky. Is it just the Azov fighters? The Ukrainian army has been badly degraded. They are almost certainly not capable of another offensive.

Winter is in sight. Putin has said that he would cut or ALL gas supplies if they did not cease hostilities forthwith.

So WHO is continuing the fight?

I suppose it's possible that social pressure keeps even hopeless young men in line, knowing that if they refuse to fight (suicide) their lives will be unlivable later on.

But on the other hand, if they keep this up, Russia will have NO CHOICE but to destroy the WHOLE of the Ukraine's infrastructure--and I'm talking about sewage, running water, railroad, highways, bridges, power supplies and water supplies. They are going to find themselves in the Stone Age. Without sewage, they'll have epidemics. And winter will be bitter.

WHO is calling the shots and WHO is obeying those orders?

yAnkees are giving the orders. And so far Russia REFUSED to do anything to stop it. Hope this week that will change.
-5 # How MAny MORE Years do we have to waitPaul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 11:43
So now how many more years will we have to wait for the Putin to use these ghost weapons that he brags about so often? How many more?When is Russia going to FINALLY retaliate? HOW MANY MORE FUCKING DECADES?
+6 # How long do we have to wait ?oldschool 2022-10-01 12:57
I would guess not very long. Question is are "you" ready when these ghost weapons come to your town ?

Time to get right with God.
-1 # RE: How long do we have to wait ?Paul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 13:40
Quoting oldschool:
I would guess not very long. Question is are "you" ready when these ghost weapons come to your town ?

Time to get right with God.

Ya man. I am fine with it. Better then living under the regime installed in this shithole country now.
-2 # Delusionalsupporttheblue 2022-10-01 12:06
From thank you Alexander to this. That’s why he is locked up.
-3 # RE: DelusionalPaul Kurzlee 2022-10-01 12:54
Quoting supporttheblue:
From thank you Alexander to this. That’s why he is locked up.

Are'nt you dead yet you useless pig. I see you have not found the right 10-69 yet. One day somebody will pull a gun on you. It would be nice to see you tits up on the pavement with a big hole in your fat head. PIG.
+12 # We will wait until the right move opens upla0508 2022-10-01 12:03
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/luongo-curious-whodunit-nordstreams-1-2
This is not just a military operation, this is a complex geopolitical wrestling match. Putin is being very clever not to be sucked into the West's provocations. He is right to do so. Don't worry, he WILL strike when all the pieces line up. But not before.
+8 # Excellent post.The Infant Phenomenon 2022-10-01 12:08
Good, clear thinking. Well said.
+19 # Sadly...PastorK 2022-10-01 11:41
this won't end well for so many. As Hal often says, 'It's time to get right with God.'
+6 # Yes, Pastor, it is hard ...The Infant Phenomenon 2022-10-01 12:17
... not to feel sorry for the ordinary Ukrainian soldier and civilian. They don't have any more say-so over what "their" government does than we have over what "our" government does.

It's abundantly clear that "their" government hates them just as "our" government hates us, so I'm also wondering just WHO is going to "answer the call" when "they" send MY grandson a draft notice.

Annalena Baerbock, the German Foreign Minister, stated publicly that Germany would stand by the Ukraine to the bitter end, and that she didn't care what the German voters thought, said, or did. Now the US has condemned Germans to a very unpleasant--and for many, unsurvivable--winter. So how many Germans will go to war for a government that hates them

Can NATO even field an army?
+1 # planRickyRaccoon 2022-10-01 12:38
Quoting The Infant Phenomenon:
... not to feel sorry for the ordinary Ukrainian soldier and civilian. They don't have any more say-so over what "their" government does than we have over what "our" government does.

It's abundantly clear that "their" government hates them just as "our" government hates us, so I'm also wondering just WHO is going to "answer the call" when "they" send MY grandson a draft notice.

Annalena Baerbock, the German Foreign Minister, stated publicly that Germany would stand by the Ukraine to the bitter end, and that she didn't care what the German voters thought, said, or did. Now the US has condemned Germans to a very unpleasant--and for many, unsurvivable--winter. So how many Germans will go to war for a government that hates them

Can NATO even field an army?


I believe its all part of the plan to annialate a large percentage of people on earth.
Easier to control a small group rather tha a mob.

GOD hardened Pharoah's heart. Why cant he do the same today.

Moses and Aaron were just a preview to the two witnesses!
+2 # Oh, yes, I agree with you ...The Infant Phenomenon 2022-10-01 12:47
... but what I'm wondering is will NATO troops obey their governments and go off quietly to certain slaughter at the command of governments that HATE them?

"They" couldn't possibly lock up ALL the young men between 18 and 22. Can't be done.

Those young men are going to think this through--and their parents will explain it to the slow-witted and the ignorant young men--and they will SEE that they are being sent off to kill young men like themselves at the command of a government that HATES them.

I am not at all convinced that NATO can field an army.

Who here remembers "What if they gave a war and nobody came?"

We might be about to find out.
# Military LawWoulf 2022-10-03 02:50
"If" that "order" is sent and they do not "respond". They "will" be "hanged" period.
Unless the "Command and Control" structure is "reset", no one "wins".

 

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