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RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"

The Russian people are enraged beyond words over the sinking of their Black Sea flagship, the Guided Missile Cruiser "Moskva" and they are already publicly saying on TV that they are in World War 3 with the United States. 

Barrages of Russian missiles were launched late last night against at least 8 different "fronts" inside Ukraine, hitting targets in Kiev, Kharkov, Nikolaev, and elsewhere, causing thunderous explosions.

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# Everyone Keeps Using AgeForrest Mosby 2022-04-17 13:30
Of a ship as a comparison benchmark…Our carriers are built w an expected 50 yr service life
but they dont build that way..Its a piss poor design w slap-dash added components that didnt help it a bit when it came to the nut cuttin..Their excuse is a drone distracted them and let the missiles in..Aegis, as designed, could track over 200 targets..its been upgraded since then…
They just dont have the tech to allow a vessel like that to survive a missile environment-nor do we now that the Hypers have arrived…Even if Aegis can track them, nothing we have can intercept them…Navy's within 500 miles of a shoreline are relics that will sleep w the fishes…like Moskva
-1 # So What If They..Forrest Mosby 2022-04-17 09:15
Were deliberately sacrificed?..An antiquated ship,w 16 Hvy Carrier Killer missiles strung all around the outside where most any ship killer was sure to hit,advertise its presence and call it The Flagship, then sail it around within easy missile shot of an enemy's coastline in wartime…

Kinda seems like an invite to me..Great teason to get The People all riled up…From what I see, its working too
# RE: So What If They..mjc 2022-04-17 13:50
If not deliberately sacrificed, they were incompetently sacrificed.

Look at the armament - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cruiser_Moskva

Moskva had become a 'prestige ship'.....the largest hull they could afford to maintain afloat.

It was designed (during the cold war) for one mission.....to shadow US aircraft carriers and sink them at point blank range. It was designed for that alone.

She had 10 SS-N-12 Sandbox launchers, 10 (!!!!!!) 533mm torpedo tubes, and 1 twin 5" gun. Her job (during the cold war.....which she did) was to sit 10mi behind a US aircraft carrier......and sink it without warning when ordered, using a combination of guns, missiles, and torpedoes. And it may well have succeeded at that, given the ranges and our realistic response times.

But this ship brought NOTHING to the fight in Ukraine. It had no land attack missiles. And the Ukrainians have NO ships for it to shoot at!

The only thing it could contribute to the war......was 1 twin 5" gun....on a 12k ton hull.....with a crew of over 500 men.


Yet people still say 'Ukraine can't win!'.
Define 'win'!

This war was Russia's to lose. And they are doing the BEST job they can to do that!

Look at the math.....Russia is being bled out, and often through incompetence as in the loss of the Moskva.

NATO is methodically eviscerating their armed forces with asymetric warfare.

They trot up tanks....which they can't don't/can't build anymore....and Ukraine is blowing them up with in-production guided missiles (given to them for 'free') that cost 1/10 the cost of the tank

Russia trots out ships.....which they can't /don't build anymore.....and Ukraine is blowing them up with in-production guided missiles (SOON to be given to them for 'free') that cost 1/10 the cost of the ship.

And people still say 'Ukraine can't win!'.

FUCK....they already HAVE won.
Russia at this point CANNOT achieve its stated goals militarily.
Ukraine, in contrast, had limited goals (survival as a sovereign/independent state).

Russia, through it's own arrogance/incompetence HAS been bled out and turned back. This was their war to lose.........AND they pulled it off.

This war WILL now end with a 'negotiated settlement'.
Ukraine WILL cede land to Russia.
Ukraine WILL join NATO.

Russia HAD their a real shot at taking Kiev and installing the government of their choice (Plan A).....AND.....turned it into a goat fuck.

Has the US fucked the goat worse? Debateably.... Look at the Afghanistan withdrawal.


For all of our (American failings), I thank God every day I do NOT live in either Russia or Ukraine.

I cannot think of two more God-forsaken and bureaucratically corrupt shit-holes in which I could have been cursed to live.

I have no love for EITHER of these countries.
THERE IS NO GOOD-GUY in the Ukraine/Russia conflct.

They deserve each other.
Let them fight it out.

This is textbook case of why Washington warned us against entangling alliances. Both of these countries are as dirty as they come.

Each has conflicting (and understandable) national interests. Great.....THEY can sack up to who see wins.

This is NONE of our business. Let them kill each other until they're tired of the killing. If they ever want to make peace.....THEN we offer to mediate.
-1 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"mjc 2022-04-16 10:19
Kremlin acknowledges death of Moskva's captain....

https://sofrep.com/amp/news/deep-six-kremlin-confirms-captain-of-the-moskva-killed-450-crewmembers-may-be-dead/?fr=operanews

"An official Kremlin statement has revealed the latest loss of commanding officers in the Russian military. This time aboard the Guided Missile Cruiser Moskva, not confirmed sunk by one or more Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship cruise missiles: “The commander of the cruiser ‘Moskva’, captain 1st rank – Kuprin Anton Valerievich – died during an explosion and fire on board.” In the Russian navy, Captain 1st rank would be the equivalent of a US navy Captain or Colonel in the other armed forces. This would make him the 34th officer of Colonel or Lieutenant Colonel rank in the Russian armed forces to die in action since the Ukraine War began.
...
More than just her crew may have been lost. As the Moskva was the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet it is likely that a considerable number of the command staff of the fleet were aboard the ship at the time it was struck by the Neptune missiles. We may be hearing about more casualties among high-ranking Russian naval officers in the coming days.

It is well known that Russian ships are Brass-Heavy with as much as 20% of the crew being officers. On a flagship like the Moskva, it would not be unusual for several officers of captain rank to be aboard as liaison staff for admirals ashore in Sevastopol. Eager for combat assignments and the medals that tend to go with them, there is a good chance that the crew of the Moskva had even more officers aboard of high rank wanting sea time, combat pay, and to earn a place in the line for medals and awards from the Kremlin.

There are unconfirmed rumors that the Admiral of the Black Sea Fleet, Igor Osipov has been fired or even arrested and taken to Moscow. So he was probably not aboard, but wishing very much that he was I suspect."
+1 # Regarding the "Lakota WWIII prophecy"pscinet 2022-04-16 09:24
This dude is a fraud and a liar. He just makes things up. If someone claims to be part Lakota they usually name their family directly. They’re not vague about where and who taught them.
No this is not a Lakota prophecy. He’s calling his so called “visions” a prophecy. So weird that he isn’t embarrassed to lie.
Sad that so many don’t know the difference so have nothing else to gauge the authenticity of folks like this.

Sending you prayers for continued courage and protection.
-1 # Gulf of TonkinLongrider53 2022-04-16 08:42
For those of us old enough to remember this event, sinking the Moskva seems like a wash rinse repeat scenario. Don’t think this will be the event that tips the iceberg over but it might be time to keep your ruck sack handy, iodine pills on the ready, and head on a swivel. They intend to have their war.. this likely is just a nudge.
# Hell..Call Their BluffForrest Mosby 2022-04-16 08:03
Sink something else
-1 # Finally saw the warning on FoxEMJL 2022-04-15 21:39
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/ukraine-russia-live-updates-04-15-2022

Several stories now reporting about Russia's response to the sinking of their flagship. They are giving the basics only. Apparently Zelensky is coming to DC next week!
# Hitting HWY and RR bridges is a good idea for themMan of the Atom 2022-04-15 18:51
It will be one way to divert the flow of weapons into "manageable" (targetable) channels.
-1 # Trillion watt laser?Sharon 2022-04-15 17:48
I wonder if our trillion watt laser from space was able to make Russia's own missiles explode on its ship? Just a thought.
+2 # whaddy wanna bet:Dudimus Maximus 2022-04-15 14:09
the stoopid fcks in the usa do the hubris - "OH YEAH"? thing back? ( some, probably from another continent)
and i cant stomach it, but watch MSM and see what the uptick will be in response to get the sheep & 'tards all riled up--- 'HOW DARE THEY! WE, ARE EXCEPTIONAL! DON'T YA KNOW!"
+2 # Multiple choice, Check only one boxoldschool 2022-04-15 13:39
[ ] The entire crew was evacuated after an ammunition explosion caused by a fire, the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement cited by Russian media on Wednesday night.

[ ] There were many victims on board. There was a monstrous explosion of ammunition and airborne missiles.
I think there may be several hundred dead, if not almost the entire crew.

[ ] Turkish commercial ships in the area responded to render aid and they report saving 54 sailors from the stricken ship.

Hal don't get me wrong, I'm not hacking on you my friend. I understand your only posting the information you get from your different sources. Like Prepper7 says, some weird news going around.
+1 # this link was news headline of citizen free pressKdasl 2022-04-15 13:10
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10721351/Ukraine-war-Fears-Moskva-warship-carrying-nuclear-weapons-sank.html
+3 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"Whitewolf 2022-04-15 13:04
Jim Stone is now saying confirmed that american missiles sunk the Moskva
+1 # do you have a linkKdasl 2022-04-15 13:06
to his website?
+3 # jim stone new linkWhitewolf 2022-04-15 13:14
http://www.jimstoneindia.com/.zz3.html
# Moskva Confirmed Sunk?Skidd333 2022-04-15 13:02
I'm confused. I thought the issue was confirmed that it did NOT sink and that it was NOT a missile attack by NATO or Ukrainian forces. I also heard that there were no deaths.
+1 # Nuance? Not.Doug Brown 2022-04-15 12:42
No more nuance.
We sank her.
Biden's loathsomeness did it.
We did it, but we couch it in innuendo, we
pretend the "FOG OF WAR" carrys the
responsibility.
We say:
No one is to blame.
No one is responsible.
We did not know:
That ship was representative to the Russian
people of more than we can ever imagine.
How big a miscalculation!
How big an error.
Someone at Langley. Maybe Biden.
Someone ordered it.
Maybe Nuland.
But:
The fog of war idiom cannot conceil
What is coming next.
.
-5 # RE: Nuance? Not.Haarnaś 2022-04-15 13:36
Quoting Doug Brown:

Someone ordered it.
Maybe Nuland.
But:
The fog of war idiom cannot conceil
What is coming next.
.


Nuland? You are making progress here, still I consider you the official unmasked Russia/IDF troll on this forum in addition to being Joseph Rudyard Kipling wannabe!

However, to date he has failed to write your own Yes, we have a real Joseph Rudyard Kipling wannabe on this forum. However, to date he has failed to write his "Into the Valley of Death rode five hundred" equivalent! It was actually six hundred in Crimea in 1864 during the charge of the Light Brigade, but it was 500 on the old Soviet cruiser Maskva' who believed in and followed Putin!
# RE: Nuance? Not.Forrest Mosby 2022-04-16 03:28
Quoting Haarnaś:
Quoting Doug Brown:

Someone ordered it.
Maybe Nuland.
But:
The fog of war idiom cannot conceil
What is coming next.
.


Nuland? You are making progress here, still I consider you the official unmasked Russia/IDF troll on this forum in addition to being Joseph Rudyard Kipling wannabe!

However, to date he has failed to write your own Yes, we have a real Joseph Rudyard Kipling wannabe on this forum. However, to date he has failed to write his "Into the Valley of Death rode five hundred" equivalent! It was actually six hundred in Crimea in 1864 during the charge of the Light Brigade, but it was 500 on the old Soviet cruiser Maskva' who believed in and followed Putin!

1854, Battle of Balaclava and Kipling didnt write it-Alfred, Lord Tennyson did…that same day there was also The Charge of the Heavy Brigade and The Thin Red Line..both astoundingly successful actions…
-8 # The portable nigger lyncherBigDee223 2022-04-15 12:40
Hal was the voice of the common man and advertised the portable nigger lyncher
Them was shows ya waited all week to listen to
+10 # Please no commenting with talk like that...Bruce Oxenford 2022-04-15 12:54
Please go elsewhere.

That talk of murder due to another's skin color, is not acceptable.

I hope you change your views.
+2 # Sinking shipKad2866 2022-04-15 12:35
Read somewhere, think it was Jim Stone?? that USA could be responsible for sinking with a space based heat weapon.
Just throwing it out there..
Hell could have been at Rense.com i cant remember shit anymore.
+1 # RT Says the Moskva is okay ....NHydg 2022-04-15 12:12
The RT news says the Moskva fire is out an there is only SOME damage .......it is being towed to a port .
Sure some weird news going around .....even from Russia.
# Checked RT again ....NHydg 2022-04-15 12:40
While being towed in to a port the Moskva sunk ......
+1 # Questionldx 2022-04-15 12:11
Would it be in the continental U.S.?

If the queen of the ant pile is left behind, nothing changes!
+6 # Eyes to see and ears to hearSrmay72 2022-04-15 12:09
The Bibles clear at what's coming. For many you won't believe till its to late yet you will believe. What Evers coming is just to set up the new boundaries of the one world government and billions will be slautered but you watch most cities and targets they hit will be liberal cities why? Because satan already has liberals souls they are worthless eaters. What his prize is , is to make Followers of Jesus "CHOOSE" TO WORSHIP HIM! WE ARE LIVING IN THE END OF DAYS. We know that all will have to choose whether to get his mark or die. The Bible is 100% fact so when news tries to make you fear something not Bibical tell them. If satan allows man to say destroy a city that's predominantly republican Christians then those souls will go to Heaven , well if they didn't get the vaccine. The gas still flows all this is to blame the new world antichrist system on the war THATS IT YOU BETTER BE PLANTING LOTS OF ROOT VEGTABLES YOU CAN HIDE FROM HUNGRY THEFTS , THEY ARE COMING AND COMING SO FAST MOST WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STOP IT. Soon you will get your door kicked in at 2am drug into your yard, if your lucky, forced to take the vaccine orand worship the serpent, or die. They will kill your wife and kids first . You better pray for spiritual strength because bullets they don't fear
+3 # And yetSrmay72 2022-04-15 11:55
The gas keeps flowing
# RE: And yetPaul Kurzlee 2022-04-15 14:12
Quoting Srmay72:
The gas keeps flowing

As do the insults and more weapon deliveries powered by that same gas. Those planes and trains dont run on air. They run on RUSSIA GAS. Thanks Vladmir. The attacks will continue.
+1 # RE: And yetselah 2022-04-15 11:58
yea, but now i'm thinking it's the only thing that is keeping the us/nato from blowing the pipeline to smitherines. if russia shuts it down then it's useless to europe, so they will kill it.
-5 # Bergoglio's (the antipope) cockamamie Vatican idea for Good Friday: A Russian woman and a Ukrainian woman will carry the cross together today during a procession in the Vatican. Everyone is outraged including the Ukrainian Catholic Hierarchy!Haarnaś 2022-04-15 11:51
This is wonton Bergoglian twist on the tradition where the Pope himself carries the Cross in Roman Colosseum, which is then followed by the adoration of the Cross in Rome and worldwide. Catholics line up in churches to kneel at the cross held by the priest and kiss it. It is the highlight of the Friday church service in place of the Mass which per tradition will not be celebrated from the Holy Thursday evening until Sunday. The Good Friday service includes elaborate prayers for the conversion of Jews. Threse special prayers are prayed only once a year and only on Good Friday. The prayers have been continuously abridged more and more every year since Vatican II.

Going back to today's ceremony in Roman Coliseum todat, both women, Ukrainian nurse Irina and Russian nursing student Albina, who are friends, are to silently shake hands while holding a cross. Andriy Yurash, Ukraine's ambassador to the Holy See, tweeted that "there have been concerns in Ukraine and other communities" and said he was "working to try to explain the difficulties and possible consequences."

Greek Catholic Archbishop of Kiev Sviatoslav Shevchuk called the idea "inappropriate and ambiguous, which does not take into account the context of Russian military aggression against Ukraine." On Tuesday, the archbishop said the gesture was "inconsistent and even offensive, especially at a time when we are waiting for a second, bloodier attack by Russian troops on our cities and villages."
+3 # Fake Pope BergieForrest Mosby 2022-04-15 13:31
Isnt much more than a turd-hustler anyway…Prob been corn holed so much his farts are silent…May he be infested w Rat Lung Worms
-5 # RE: Bergoglio's (the antipope) cockamamie Vatican idea for Good Friday: A Russian woman and a Ukrainian woman will carry the cross together today during a procession in the Vatican. Everyone is outraged including the Ukrainian Catholic Hierarchy!Haarnaś 2022-04-15 12:03
[quote name="Haarnaś"]

We have not heard anything from the Catholic Archbishop of Moscow Paolo Pezzi yet. Yes, he is Italian. Russian did not like the Russian Archbishop Kondrusiewicz in this position and replaced him with an Italian a few years back.

I would assume that both Putin and Zelensky will not like today's novel ceremony in Vatican, but their opinions would be predictable and irrelevant, like the opinions of Unconverted Catholics (ie heretics and Juifs) on this forum!
+2 # 2 till total AnnihilationGaryhines 2022-04-15 11:46
Hi Hal the United States don't listen to good Biden needs the shit beat out with Sledgehammer absolutely a worthless piece of dog shit same goes fucking degenerate crack head piece of trash Hunter needs to be dealt with.the United States continues there stupid bullshit proxy war inside of Ukraine it now more than likely the United States will get hit with thromo nuclear NATO Countries will be hit Kiss some your favorite places like Poland London paris and oh let's Not forget the United States will be hit and fucking Vaporizer off the planet . Get ready something out out of the blue and into the black to happen soon
-2 # RE: 2 till total AnnihilationPaul Kurzlee 2022-04-15 14:16
Quoting Garyhines:
Hi Hal the United States don't listen to good Biden needs the shit beat out with Sledgehammer absolutely a worthless piece of dog shit same goes fucking degenerate crack head piece of trash Hunter needs to be dealt with.the United States continues there stupid bullshit proxy war inside of Ukraine it now more than likely the United States will get hit with thromo nuclear NATO Countries will be hit Kiss some your favorite places like Poland London paris and oh let's Not forget the United States will be hit and fucking Vaporizer off the planet . Get ready something out out of the blue and into the black to happen soon

Is the putin being replaced? Maybe then that MIGHT happen.
+3 # RE: 2 till total Annihilationselah 2022-04-15 12:00
it's sammy resurected ? same punctuation ?
+1 # Punctuation !!oldschool 2022-04-15 12:51
I have a grandson that writes the same way no punctuation, very annoying.
+1 # NuclearLind 2022-04-15 11:37
There were at least two nuclear missiles on board of Moscow. USA saying first that ship was coming for repair (as well as Russia saying it was carried for repair) just wanted to cover exact location where it sunk. Not to let Ukraine or Turkey to seize nuclear warheads
+9 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"BeenThere 2022-04-15 11:34
It seems as though no one can see that the world is about to go up in flames......

There are only a handful of people in positions of authority that are making decisions that will affect millions of us - sad.
+1 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"Paul Kurzlee 2022-04-15 14:26
Quoting BeenThere:
It seems as though no one can see that the world is about to go up in flames......

There are only a handful of people in positions of authority that are making decisions that will affect millions of us - sad.

The Putin knows this and also knows where they are. He REFUSES to bomb them. Despite the fact he promised the planet he WOULD hit the leadership. Now he refuses. So on it goes. And on. And on. Until the Putin does what he promised nothing will change. It will just get worse.
+7 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"Stealthdan 2022-04-15 11:16
NWO league and their puppet nations (USA and many NATO countries) are hell bent to initiate WWIII in order to protect their global corporate domination. The False Flags coming out of Ukraine reek of internal attacks against their own people to suck everyone into their hellish utopia. This is a conflict between Russia and the Globalist.
-14 # Ironicspike 2022-04-15 10:44
So I'm not rooting for either side here, but I'm just amazed that the Russian TV is "outraged" at the ship being sunk. As if Russia believes it can invade a sovereign nation and not expect to get hit back. Completely delusional...
# Learn History of Ukraine before inserting foot into mouthDummyemail@ me.com 2022-04-16 12:09
@Spike..............And you also need to learn the history of Ukraine going back to 2014. And don't neglect the shelling of the Russian Republics for 8 years day and night.
+1 # not rooting for either side ??oldschool 2022-04-15 16:14
I think you are the delusional one here.
-1 # RE: not rooting for either side ??spike 2022-04-15 16:23
Ok sir, are you saying that the Ukrainian military is not "allowed" to attack the Russian military? You do understand that these two countries are at war, correct?
-2 # RE: IronicBigDee223 2022-04-15 12:43
Quoting spike:
So I'm not rooting for either side here, but I'm just amazed that the Russian TV is "outraged" at the ship being sunk. As if Russia believes it can invade a sovereign nation and not expect to get hit back. Completely delusional...

Ironic nazi fucker! Go eat shit dumb ass
+1 # Yet, You Posted This?Forrest Mosby 2022-04-15 13:40
Quoting BigDee223:
Quoting spike:
So I'm not rooting for either side here, but I'm just amazed that the Russian TV is "outraged" at the ship being sunk. As if Russia believes it can invade a sovereign nation and not expect to get hit back. Completely delusional...

Ironic nazi fucker! Go eat shit dumb ass



-3 # The portable nigger lyncher — BigDee223 2022-04-15 11:40
Hal was the voice of the common man and advertised the portable nigger lyncher
Them was shows ya waited all week to listen to
-2 # RE: IronicHaarnaś 2022-04-15 12:15
Quoting spike:
So I'm not rooting for either side here, but I'm just amazed that the Russian TV is "outraged" at the ship being sunk. As if Russia believes it can invade a sovereign nation and not expect to get hit back. Completely delusional...


Unlike all the Unconverted Catholics and despised Zionists wannabe running this forum, I share your opinion and would add further, that you should pay no attention to the men behind the curtain, the blowhards like Mossad troll Doug Brown who think they own this forum!

You are right, the "Russian TV" that you mention is a state-run enterprise and is nothing more than a propaganda organ of Putin and his KGB buddies as well as Billionaire oligarch thugs with triple citizenships, Russian, Ukrainian and... Israeli!
+4 # Not Trollingspike 2022-04-15 11:33
Gentlemen, I am a subscriber and I am NOT a troll.

I understand the reasons why Russia invaded Ukraine. It was a Cuban Missile Crisis moment for them. (And of course there are other reasons, like the biolabs).

I still stand by my statement. Russia attacked Ukraine and somehow expected Ukraine not to strike back? For the Ukrainian military, ANY Russian target including those within Russia are completely fair game. The two countries are at war!
-13 # I Agree With spikeKill Roy 2022-04-15 11:24
Russia can dish it out, but they can't take it. I believe it's called a "glass jaw."
+17 # Your Lack Of UnderstandingDoug Brown 2022-04-15 11:02
The lack of comprehension
In your statement is astonishing.
+9 # RE: Your Lack Of UnderstandingMike. 2022-04-15 11:24
You took the words right out of my mouth.
+10 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"Gunner 2022-04-15 10:42
The pigs in the US criminal govt and the NWO retards are going to get all of us NUKED.
+10 # YepBarman 2022-04-15 11:16
That's the plan
+2 # YEP ..... tha planNHydg 2022-04-15 12:19
Glad to see many of us KNOW what the plan is of the Dork State govs ...... around the WORLD .....the One World gov plan is to destroy as much as possible .....then ...... BUILD BACK BETTER , which is .....Build it to Lucifer's specs. ........ END OF TIMES folks .... EOT
+6 # America is Babylon the greatFewThereBe 2022-04-15 10:36
Quote:
How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations! (Jer 50:23)

How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. (Rev 18:7)
Be sure you are saved and not just think you are.

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+9 # They will not stopWhitewolf 2022-04-15 10:25
The ones in charge in FUSA are too arrogant and stupid to stop, they will respond " no one can tell us what to do " and the arms will continue right up to the first nuke in DC and elsewhere, then they will cry not fair
-1 # RE: They will not stopJbRiddle 2022-04-15 11:04
There is a problem with that logic, if Russia responds and hits a NATO county, it open the door for NATO to take more action. US Cruise Missile have a 98% accuracy rate, and there is a lot of shit in Russia that can be taken out.
-1 # RE: They will not stopTC 2022-04-15 12:37
Putin has made it clear he understands that. He has warned us several times that Russia can destroy the US in less than 30 minutes. It is unlikely Russia will attack some obscure part of NATO and wait for retaliation. That would be as stupid as stepping on a snake’s tail.

The way to kill a snake is to strike the head so it cannot bite back. That means all the military forces of NATO must be incapacitated in a single stroke. Putin knew this would eventually happen and has prepared for this moment for 20 years. Russia now has superior nuclear and electronic power and can shelter a large part of its population while NATO is making it clearer every day that they will destroy Russia if it does not attack.

Our government has also been working hard to piss off China to keep them allied with Russia. If they can do what they have practiced many times and attack together they can probably neutralize at least 90% of the West’s armed forces in the first day. The next step will be a demand for surrender or the population centers will also be destroyed.

The Biden regime and Europe will cheerfully escape the consequences of their economic blunders and criminal activities by surrendering. All will know how they graciously put their own interests aside for the sole purpose of saving the lives of their people.

And the world order George Orwell predicted in his novel 1984 will be a reality.
+11 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"Woulf 2022-04-15 10:22
We keep sending weapons (in the middle of a chip shortage) for the Russians to blow up. Between this and the oil reserve being depleted, we will be down to throwing rocks very soon.
-1 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"JFY 2022-04-15 12:12
Quoting Woulf:
Between this and the oil reserve being depleted, we will be down to throwing rocks very soon.


You know, Albert Einstein said something to that effect...
# RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"Forrest Mosby 2022-04-15 13:43
Quoting JFY:
Quoting Woulf:
Between this and the oil reserve being depleted, we will be down to throwing rocks very soon.


You know, Albert Einstein said something to that effect...


“Not sure how WW3 will be fought but 4 will be fought with sticks and stones”
-2 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"mjc 2022-04-15 11:26
Quoting Woulf:
We keep sending weapons (in the middle of a chip shortage) for the Russians to blow up. Between this and the oil reserve being depleted, we will be down to throwing rocks very soon.

Well, I can guarantee you that we're making Javellin missiles (currently in production) faster than Russia is making either T-72s/T-80s (long out of production) .... or conscript kids to crew those tanks. And the first 100 TEST Armata tanks are still not delivered - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-14_Armata

Attrition here DOES NOT favor Russia.

Some people will like that. Some people won't.

But ignoring that reality does not change it.
+4 # YesDoug Brown 2022-04-15 11:04
I would rather have a drooling artichoke than Biden
+12 # RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"Igorbzo 2022-04-15 10:14
I believe this it wait and see they're response.

It seems like everyone is forgotten that the biggest NUCLEAR arsenal reside in RUSSIA let's not be so naive, if they decide to shoot it will be thousands of missile in the at one time as described in Revelation.
# You are RIGHT ON ....NHydg 2022-04-15 12:31
It won't be a nuke here and one there ......... It will be WORLD WIDE nukes ............. thousands of nukes ..... Russia will not wait for nukes to come back .....they will nuke ALL . Nuclear Tactical is TOTALLY different mentality........ before it is over EVERYONE will get a nuke or two or more ............. EVERYONE, ALL NATIONS will go back to the stone age ......... NO ONE gets to be stronger than another by staying neutral.
-1 # Sailors deaths?Dummyemail@ me.com 2022-04-15 10:08
How does one hide 500 sailors deaths if indeed it was hit with missiles?

The US Intel people know what happened and they are being coy about it? Possibly to not incite more anger from Russia and to defuse the situation??

How many other Russian Black Sea ships were in the area and did not return fire is strange?
-2 # RE: Sailors deaths?Haarnaś 2022-04-15 12:34
Quoting Dummyemail@ me.com:
How does one hide 500 sailors deaths if indeed it was hit with missiles?


Excellent point , which is totally ignored by the Unconverted Catholic Russophile blowhards running this forum from behind a curtain. Russian suppressed the info that there were any deaths of sailors, which fitted with the scenario they promoted of a small fire with a large structural damage At least 300 sailor had died, I hear.

Keep on mid that Russians have always been very secretive. As Winston Churchill famously said in 1939: Russia is "a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma,". Only one person in the world, our own forumnaut, Doug Brown claims to understand Russia perfectly (check above)
-2 # ERRATAHaarnaś 2022-04-15 12:36
Keep on mid that
Should be: Keep in mind that
-2 # RE: Sailors deaths?mjc 2022-04-15 11:00
Quoting Dummyemail@ me.com:
How does one hide 500 sailors deaths if indeed it was hit with missiles?

The US Intel people know what happened and they are being coy about it? Possibly to not incite more anger from Russia and to defuse the situation??

How many other Russian Black Sea ships were in the area and did not return fire is strange?

Take a look at the order of battle for the Russian Black Sea fleet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Fleet#Order_of_battle

Moskva (Slava class) was the most capable air defense ship.

As to why it was not sunk sooner ... perhaps the indigenous Ukrainian anti-ship missiles don't deal well with ground clutter near shore, requiring a target on open water. In this case.....the Moskva was allegedly about 60nm from shore, which was well over both the visual and radar horizon from the shore battery. The ship's location was allegedly provided by a drone.

The Ukrainians may have been waiting for this shot for a while, and finally got it : a major combattant, on open water, and perhaps cruising at relatively low speed and alone (to minimize the chance of the missile being mis-directed to another ship).


How do you hide the deaths of hundreds of sailors?
You can't.
You can only refuse to acknowledge it, in the same way Russian state media is refusing to acknowledge the ship was hit by missiles.

Meanwhile, Russia was busy last night bombing the factory that didn't make the missiles that sank the ship? Purely coincidental for that to occur, two months after the start of the invasion......
-2 # RE: Sailors deaths?Haarnaś 2022-04-15 12:48
Quoting mjc:
Quoting Dummyemail@ me.com:
How does one hide 500 sailors deaths if indeed it was hit with missiles?

The US Intel people know what happened and they are being coy about it? Possibly to not incite more anger from Russia and to defuse the situation??

How many other Russian Black Sea ships were in the area and did not return fire is strange?

Take a look at the order of battle for the Russian Black Sea fleet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Fleet#Order_of_battle

Moskva (Slava class) was the most capable air defense ship.


Wikipedia is a Commie organ lie old Soviet Pravda.

Maskva' was actually an ancient Soviet ship. They have laid down the hull in 1976 as the old Soviet Union was beginning to fall apart, for heaven sake, and did not finish building it until 1983!!!. Its air defenses were reported in the Western press (contrary to the mistaken Wiki piece of garbage) to be outdated even "by the Russian standards"!

By having HIS OWN TV blow hard about the "Russian outrage" over the sinking of Maskva', Putin is trying to cover his own fault in the affair by allowing this piece of ancient Soviet junk float into a war!
-1 # RE: Sailors deaths?selah 2022-04-15 12:06
if it hit by missiles, the media would somehow have it out by now, with pictures. i believe this was the work of us/nato seal/frogmen. just the us' words of response are enough to know that they were somehow involved.
+11 # Real WarFlatfootfrank 2022-04-15 10:03
All these pundits, war mongers, politicians and uninformed morons are about to get their wish. History is about to repeat itself exponentially.

Here in the U.S. the Civil War was the bloodiest event in our history. What’s coming will make that look like a neighborhood shooting.

Pray
+10 # Shoe drop...SparkyTaz 2022-04-15 09:52
The slow motion shoe drop just hit with a resounding thud!!! Hal! Time to bug out to NE PA again!!!
-1 # YesSrmay72 2022-04-15 12:34
Pay attention to news site owners what they do , if they stay in cities they think they will hit then know its just smoke. If they bugout you better also. 30 years ago I was told to watch news people and rich they know. If you have a news show with millions of hits know that in those millions there are hundreds that are in jobs that know exactly what's going on. Marfoogle was the first I caught when they have shows that you know they are scared, then don't talk about it again for weeks then another , know they have been told the real truth. They know we have a debri field incoming that would scare normies into unpredictable fright if the government new millions of fireballs were going to hit earth all in a matter of weeks they would start ww3 and blame other countries for missle attacks. I don't fear nukes I fear God. Satan will not allow man to destroy his only hiding place and if Russia send thousands of "nukes" then we would also and the Bible don't say the earth's destroyed by man it does say a mountian burning with fire will come and make 1/3the water poison . I believe certain cities were planted with prepositioned bombs , like 9/11 to make the world believe its missles not God's wrath. If I lived 300 miles from these cities I'd move. There's no way God allows all the nuclear power to be destroyed if it don't fit Bibically it won't happen. DC has been closed for 2 years so was most of new York San Francisco, Seattle etc how easy it would be to plant the bombs in these cities during the lock down same worldwide this is all smoke and mirrors to set up the antichrist one world religion and order you better pick a cave to go to or lawn chair at ground zero because something much scarier then wars coming thats "GODS WRATH" saved Christians are not to be part of God's wrath but Remer passover they lived through it seen it but never was harmed by it
+10 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"RockyMountainBeerMan 2022-04-15 09:47
The Normies' heads will explode when things get real. :-D
+12 # Retaliation is comingarewethereyet 2022-04-15 09:47
If anyone in the US thinks that Russia isn’t going to retaliate against us they are operating with a smooth brain.
+2 # I Know Looking Glass SaidForrest Mosby 2022-04-15 09:36
April 18 is the day NY will get theirs but the 19th is Adolphs Day so I vote for then…unless you count it will already be the 19th somewhere over there
+1 # Looking glass389rivka@gmail.com 2022-04-15 10:40
Isn’t the 20th of April the date used over the past years to “honor” Adolph ? …as in the Columbine hs shooting..l
# RE: Looking glassForrest Mosby 2022-04-16 03:46
Quoting 389rivka@gmail.com:
Isn’t the 20th of April the date used over the past years to “honor” Adolph ? …as in the Columbine hs shooting..l

You are correct but I was thinking of Ok City
+27 # Consider the reverselloydbarker 2022-04-15 09:35
If Russia destroyed one of our flagships, all hell would break loose. Guess what, folks, all hell is about to break loose and the shit is going to hit the fan. And don't only mean the proverbial one. People, we all need to get right with God. Besides kinetic actions, I am CERTAIN there is going to be assymetric warfare here on American soil. Some of this happens all the time...kidnappings, poisonings and murder. China and Russia and others are going to scale it up in a big way to the level it cannot be hidden. Fellow patriots, take care of you and yours. As for me, I have given up the goal of being superman. God, family and country, country being last because our country has already been subverted and taken over by the Bolshevics and the idealogs. They have to go first. Only then can we take our country back. I hate to say this, but Ukraine is nothing but a dim reflection in the mirror. May God bless all of you and your families. PS...My son serves on one of our flagship vessels and has already come into enemy contact at least twice, so I ask you to pray for him. Thank you.
+4 # AmenIgorbzo 2022-04-15 10:07
Amen to that, very well said.
+5 # The Rooskis ‘Were’Forrest Mosby 2022-04-15 09:32
Extra proud of that piece-of-shit ship…had it in Havana on a Great-White-Fleet type trip last year…But it shows the fallacy of the admirals fighting-the-last-war policy’s….Carriers and Bombardment Platforms did well in WW2…but the Japs didnt have hypersonic cruise missiles…unless you want to throw in the ‘Oka’…
The Moskva was probably the best armored ship afloat-from any navy-up until it met a ship-killer..those friggin admirals didnt learn a thing from The Falklands…or the USS Stark…
Nothing we have to use for ‘Force Projection’ can survive operations in a missile environment so what good are carriers and cruisers?…,
May as well bring the Tico’s home…they sure as shit cant take a hit
+1 # You are perfectly right. The day of 100 000 DWT flat tops are over,Haarnaś 2022-04-15 12:55
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
Extra proud of that piece-of-shit ship…had it in Havana on a Great-White-Fleet type trip last year…But it shows the fallacy of the admirals fighting-the-last-war policy’s….Carriers and Bombardment Platforms did well in WW2…but the Japs didnt have hypersonic cruise missiles…unless you want to throw in the ‘Oka’…
The Moskva was probably the best armored ship afloat-from any navy-up until it met a ship-killer..those friggin admirals didnt learn a thing from The Falklands…or the USS Stark…
Nothing we have to use for ‘Force Projection’ can survive operations in a missile environment so what good are carriers and cruisers?…,
May as well bring the Tico’s home…they sure as shit cant take a hit


in exactly the same way that big battleships with 12 and 16 inch guns were already floating coffins at the outbreak of WWII!
+14 # Hals website Number 1Bruce Oxenford 2022-04-15 09:26
Hal Turner continues to release information that is days ahead of others, with pertinent details of historical actions that are occuring in real time, before our eyes. The sinking of the the Guided Missle Cruiser "Moscow", is a warning to Moscow itself, and this war will now turn hot, openly across many countries, I do not see cooler heads prevailing, since American economy is debt ridden and Russia and China have already taken defensive measures to insulate their countries as best as possible before war against the west.

The pot is about to boil over... an unhappy Easter weekend? We're going to find out.
+17 # About the Boat...Doug Brown 2022-04-15 09:25
I'm a sucker for Naval Parades. I love them.
Recently Russia celebrated it's 325th Naval
Anniversary with a glorious Parade,
featuring 54 ships.i watched it all.
As the massive ships paraded by Putin, he saluted,
the band played patroitic music,
the sailors stood at attention
on the deck of their ship and saluted Putin.
It was a very lengthy parade. A very beautiful
parade. There were thousands of families on shore cheering. Everyone was very well dressed, we
used to say, in church meeting clothes.
To sink a battleship?
In Russia they love their Navy, they are extremely
proud of their Navy.
Russia is what America was like in the 50's,
Real darn patriotic.
I think the CIA, NSA, NATO, UK, USA committed an
enormously a blunder of epic proportion in
Sinking a prize Russian Warship.
We used to prize out Space Shuttle. What if
Russia blew up one of our Space Shuttles?
That's how the Russians feel right now, in spades.
+1 # Stop spewing Russian propagandaHaarnaś 2022-04-15 13:02
Quoting Doug Brown:
I'm a sucker for Naval Parades. I love them.
Recently Russia celebrated it's 325th Naval
Anniversary with a glorious Parade,
featuring 54 ships.i watched it all.
As the massive ships paraded by Putin, he saluted,
the band played patroitic music,
the sailors stood at attention
on the deck of their ship and saluted Putin.
It was a very lengthy parade. A very beautiful
parade. There were thousands of families on shore cheering. Everyone was very well dressed, we
used to say, in church meeting clothes.
To sink a battleship?
In Russia they love their Navy, they are extremely
proud of their Navy.
Russia is what America was like in the 50's,
Real darn patriotic.
I think the CIA, NSA, NATO, UK, USA committed an
enormously a blunder of epic proportion in
Sinking a prize Russian Warship.
We used to prize out Space Shuttle. What if
Russia blew up one of our Space Shuttles?
That's how the Russians feel right now, in spades.


you IDF troll. If you love Russia that much, hand up its map on the wall, embrace and kiss it, and then volunteer for Russian Navy. They can always use a good cook to peel potatoes and cook them up some borshch!
+1 # Harnass. Go away.Doug Brown 2022-04-15 20:19
You are rude and immature,
Judgmental, and a name caller.
A terrible hateful example of manhood.
Go away.
You are not a good person.
Again
PLEAE LEAVE THIS SITE.
YOUR DIRT AND SARCASM AND
NASTINESS Spoil it for everyone.
Grow up. You wit is tiredom.
+5 # About the boatSBGlett77 2022-04-15 09:35
Yes, "enormous blunder" is a great choice of words; many times used in history books to describe a miscalculation that turned an entire war.
-1 # RE: About the boatHaarnaś 2022-04-15 13:08
Quoting SBGlett77:
Yes, "enormous blunder" is a great choice of words


Yes, we have a real Joseph Rudyard Kipling wannabe on this forum. However, to date he has failed to write his "Into the Valley of Death rode five hundred" equivalents!
+5 # Looking glassCJ 2022-04-15 09:21
There is a woo woo story going around the alt newsabout a self inflicted dirty bomb being detonated in NYC on the 18th of this month. Russia will be blamed for it and WW3 will officially start.
Now here is the woo woo part. Supposedly an ancient artifact was found or invented back in the 20th century that shows several out comes to future events. Supposedly the more people who know about it the less of a chance of it happening so tell everyone.
Sounds like a chain letter psy op to me . Considering current events it would not hurt to pray and pray hard.
I don't put anything past this government.
Happy Easter and Peace.
+11 # Unimaginable!StormClouds 2022-04-15 09:08
I really don't think the West has any idea of the severity of the response of Russia.

It's "The Bear" and they will devour MUCH flesh - Dan 7.

Get ready and be prepared. China - the Leopard will join in and crush NATO, the US and the UK.

Watch!!
+2 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"darkwingduck 2022-04-15 08:56
this is scary because it will just continue to escalate
+4 # No fearAzrael76 2022-04-15 09:16
Nothing you can do about the retards in charge. You can take charge of your personal matters. We know what is most likely to happen, do what you can.
To anyone shitting themselves over swearing or what it's going to be like afterwards.... Maybe book a few weeks vacation in DC or NYC because you won't make it anyway
+21 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"Lambs Servant 2022-04-15 08:40
If Russia would have hit hard, at the start of all of this, then all of this would not be happening. I do admire Russia for wanting to negotiate peace but they also have to be mindful that they are dealing with a bunch of psychopaths/sociopaths/banksters who could care less abut the well being of people.
+2 # Timing is everything...Clare 2022-04-15 10:11
SOTN — Intelligence Analyst & Former U.S. Military Officer
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=111323
But what took Putin 8 very long years to finally spring into action?
+1 # I watched that yesterdayEMJL 2022-04-15 12:16
Fascinating. Such a cocky guy delivering it: leaning on the podium with a hand in his pocket, yet fascinating information. The maps and graphs were informative and explained so much of what is happening.
+4 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"daniel_martin 2022-04-15 09:38
Bc Rússians consider Ukraine a Civil War. They are fighting with fingers not fists. It wont be the way with NATO guaranteed. Dont expect any noite on the ground. They Will just Rain Tsar Bombs. I know I know westeners are obsessed with the word "Deterrence". The only problem is It never worked in the History
+5 # ExactlyBren1776 2022-04-15 09:00
You took the words right out of my mouth!
+2 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"ebelfer52 2022-04-15 08:36
other than in areas of the Azov nazis the russians have been seemingly playing softball to avoid civilian and infastructure losses and it has been costing them. now with NATO advisors and endless NATO advanced weapons they are going to forced to take the gloves off. they can still pound Ukraine, especially command and control and strategic supply routes, and keep it in the Ukraine territory but I don't see how this doesn't expand to direct confrontation with NATO and truly going global. has anyone heard anymore about the Chinese armor heading to western Russia? has it arrived and where and are they to be manned by chinese troops or was armor sold to russia. as well as munitions for the armor since I doubt they use russian munitions..
+8 # ZelenskyDummyemail@ me.com 2022-04-15 10:14
Leaving Zelensky to go anywhere he wanted and talk to anyone who would listen to him in my opinion was a grave mistake by Putin. Putting this guy on ice would have ended this conflict weeks ago.
-1 # Allowing the social media propagandaEMJL 2022-04-15 12:21
Also an undercalculated error on Putin's part. He has lost the PR war. Z has the entire media, social media apparatus behind him. Calling into the Academy Awards! Speaking to the US Congress. Biden hanging the Ukrainian flag at the SOTU address. Huge unforced errors on Russia's part.
# RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"Pesky Varmint 2022-04-15 08:36
To put it politely:

Excrement occurs.
+4 # Russia Furious over the Moskvachip 2022-04-15 08:54
To put it bluntly the Ukraine
Just shit in their nest
# RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"Pesky Varmint 2022-04-15 08:41
Hey Hal, I just reminded myself how to cuss up a storm in polite company. For exampe instead of saying someone is full of bullshit I say they are full of "bovine excrement".
+4 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"JeffsGypsy 2022-04-15 08:55
Quoting Pesky Varmint:
Hey Hal, I just reminded myself how to cuss up a storm in polite company. For exampe instead of saying someone is full of bullshit I say they are full of "bovine excrement".


My dad used to say, “Not saying you are chicken sh*t, but you do have hen house ways.”
+7 # They knowSBGlett77 2022-04-15 08:26
As noted in my comment in the previous article, Russia absolutely knows from SIGINT whose drone it was that painted the target and handed it off for the missile guidance. If anybody thinks it was Ukraine's drone, I have some swampland in Florida I'd like to sell you.

Oops ! Now we've roused the whole country to get behind Putin, probably even the pansy Atlanticists over there.
+6 # Embedded Forces.Doug Brown 2022-04-15 09:50
Doesn't really matter, does it?
DELTA, SAS, Mercenaries via NATO,
Ukrainian Special Forces, even CIA
Special opts.,
Doesn't matter who. Does it matter?
Embedded in Ukraine are a stew-mix of
highly trained operatives from many different
countries. Does it matter?
Not to the Russians that had a warship sunk.
They see blood.
+13 # RE: RUSSIA FURIOUS OVER SINKING OF MISSILE CRUISER "MOSKVA" - TALKING "WW3"MPAFF 2022-04-15 08:16
Like sand through the hourglass so go the days of our lives...
+1 # WW3oldschool 2022-04-15 13:14
We are in WW3. Just getting started.

 

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