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Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty Initiative

Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty Initiative

The West faces the moment of truth, which has started the countdown in wait for the adoption of Russian proposals on security guarantees addressed to the United States and NATO, Konstantin Gavrilov, the head of the Russian delegation at the Vienna Negotiations on Military Security and Arms Control, said on Wednesday.

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+1 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty Initiativeskellybob 2022-01-21 09:58
so what is happening? the 48 hours has passed.
# Blinken is a Fag!Lbigox 2022-01-21 08:25
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is holding a news conference following talks with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in Geneva. During their bilateral meeting, the diplomats focused mainly on the situation in Ukraine, and Russia’s list of proposals for security guarantees.
# Update: 7:30 PM EST...Rosewood11 2022-01-21 00:33
Is that something like not touching the papers that the process-server is trying to hand to you!!!???!!!
+1 # Hosea 8Danbowser71 2022-01-20 20:46
7“They sow the wind

and reap the whirlwind.
+1 # BlinkenSpetsnaz7 2022-01-20 15:06
Is going to Blink I hope and pray!
-2 # OK, WE ARE ALL IN SAME BOATDudimus Maximus 2022-01-20 11:26
THEY WANT US TO FIGHT. THEY WANT US TO CRIPPLE UNCLE SAM GUY, IN BOAT, MAYBE EVEN THROW OVERBOARD, TAKE HIS STUFF. Uncle Sam guy act like idiot, big pain in @$$, even deserve to be taken out. Thing is, all by design. We must do what is in our own best interest and of all. Only if impossible to avoid, we will kill Sam, . Letting him live is not compassion but we must be careful to not play into enemy agenda. Plus YinYang wants conus to use- no good to anybody if glows in dark. YinYang no friend either, but as stupid saying, enemy of my enemy, and all that. To be checkmated is to do what we dont want to do, when we dont want to do it, because we have no choice. Let fools talk, Putin afraid, Russia scared, secret usa weapons, ok ok, They know nothing. They are mere spectators with a seat on the same boat.
# did you hear it?Dudimus Maximus 2022-01-20 23:54
FABULOUS MONOLOGUE 1/20/2022!!!!!! OMG THANKS.... i havent been able to say it like u did tonite!!!!! """pit the us and russia against each other""" as in my little "boat" blurb...
+2 # What Languagesupporttheblue 2022-01-20 12:19
is this you are attempting?
+1 # SILLY GEHBROKST EENGLISHDudimus Maximus 2022-01-20 15:42
Quoting Supporttheblue:
is this you are attempting?
SILLY GEHBROKST ENGLISH like i heard growing up... ..but, did u get the point?
+13 # If Russia...Doug Brown 2022-01-20 11:18
If Russia were burning children alive,
If Russia was feeding the elderly to dogs,
If Russia was having Satanic services in Red Square,
If Russia was dropping comedians out of planes,
If Russia was forbidding freedom of the Press,
If Russians were torturing all bakers,
If clothing restrictions existed.

IF ALL THESE THINGS WERE HAPPENING
Russia still wouldn't be as evil as Blinken, Nuland and Biden suggest.

Russia is NOT our ENEMY by GOD.
+1 # Inadequate responses to delicate situation .jrockcvn71 2022-01-20 19:04
I don't ever recall our diplomacy being one that encourages the use of nuclear weapons as any diplomatic peaceful resolution. I thought that was covered under mutually assured destruction? My humble opinion is this is about the NWO.
-1 # US proposed sanctions against RussiaStefan123 2022-01-20 07:49
These are the sactions proposed to Russia RIA Novosti writes (Bare in mind this is google translation from Ru-En)

-Declaration of "Russian-supported" forces in Donbass as terrorists and recognition of Russia as a sponsor of terrorism;

-Ban on operations with Russian public debt;

- measures against Nord Stream 2, including related organizations and their shareholders;

-Termination of financing of the cybersecurity dialogue until the attacks on American departments are over;

-Termination of financing of the dialogue on strategic stability while Crimea becomes Russian;

- sanctions against Russian President Vladimir Putin, all members of the government, as well as Russian officials and security forces, including the press secretary of Russian leader Dmitry Peskov, Mayor of Moscow Sereg Sobyanin, First Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration Sergei Kiriyenko, Head of the CEC Ella Pamfilova, Head of the Presidential Administration Anton Vaino, Head of

- sanctions against Russian businessmen: Roman Abramovich, Alisher Usmanov, Oleg Deripaska, Igor Sechin, Alexei Miller, Andrey Kostin, Gennady Timchenko, the project further mentions VEB and related persons, as well as Dmitry Rybolovlev, Mikhail Fridman, Peter Aven, Mikhail Gutseriev and Alexander Vinokurov;

-Sanctions against journalists: Editor-in-Chief of MIA "Russia Today" and RT Margarita Simonyan, TV and radio presenter Vladimir Solovyov and General Director of Channel One Konstantin Ernst.
+1 # Sanctionsjrockcvn71 2022-01-20 19:10
I think it's absurd to diplomatically enforce personal sanctions against President Putin and his staff. He only wanted NATO off his front yard. Main thing was no nukes in Ukraine. Although he did build a super sonic Nuke and tested it (Hah oh boy)
+9 # Just another form of theft, gamgsterism.carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-20 08:23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_frozen_assets
Plain theft of $100-120 billion
https://apnews.com/article/london-venezuela-archive-united-kingdom-8aed97a3890f7a2cd7ffe09a71b6b050
Plain theft of $2 billion

Sanctions against Russian gas - to force the world to buy USA LPG.

Declaring a fake pandemic to sell trillions of dollars of pre made vaccines with USA patents, USA manufacturers, USA shareholders.
Gangsterism.
# Biological weaponjrockcvn71 2022-01-20 19:14
Big Pharma,Big PHILANTHROPIST, and D-Pop.
-1 # Screw Iransupporttheblue 2022-01-20 12:24
They are terrorist pigshit and kill at will. These funds don't begin to account for their crimes.
+2 # @ SupporttheblueRod Stirling 2022-01-20 15:02
Unlike Israel, who bombs countries it doesn't like, assassinates anyone it doesn't like or for profit as in killers for hire and is a leading contractor for those 'false flags'.

For the last 12 months, please list the terrorist op's conducted by Iran.
+1 # RE: Just another form of theft, gamgsterism.carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-20 08:26
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/01/10/new-video-evidence-of-us-theft-of-syrian-oil-funding-isis-terrorism/
On January 10, RusVesna published a video showing a large convoy of U.S. takers with Syrian oil heading towards Iraq.

SF: The footage taken by a military aircraft proved that a kilometers-long US convoy accompanied by four military vehicles was moving along the M4 highway towards the illegal border crossing of Al-Walid with Iraq.

According to the SANA news agency, U.S. and Kurdish forces have recently launched an oil refinery at the Rmeylan fields in the northeastern part of Syria’s Hassakah province, from where they are stealing oil and are transporting it to Iraq.
According to local sources, the US Delta Crescent company that is working on the ground in north-eastern Syria to process the oil bought loyalty of Arab sheikhs from the Tai tribe, who are now involved in the theft of oil.
-2 # RE: US proposed sanctions against RussiaiCanWalk 2022-01-20 07:56
I bet the Russians are TREMBLING.
+5 # RE: US proposed sanctions against RussiaStefan123 2022-01-20 07:52
And not that they will REJECT the proposals, they may not even deliever in writing form they will ADD SANCTIONS to Russia. This will be a massive deteoration of the situation. Next week, or maybe saturday, sunday we will see a new war in Europe...
+1 # The infantile minds at State.Rod Stirling 2022-01-20 06:29
This is more of what Moscow has to deal with......

https://twitter.com/TommyLundn/status/1484067511679266817

A number of opportunities will develop over the coming day or so for Maria to take Blinken to the cleaners.

Popcorn time... no?
+1 # Woops, wrong link.... :-((Rod Stirling 2022-01-20 06:58
Try this one.....

https://twitter.com/TommyLundn/status/1484069001659572225
# You can feel the tension in Tel-Aviv.Rod Stirling 2022-01-20 04:59
One of a number of meetings between President Raisi's entourage and their Russian counterparts.

https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1484074642704846849
# Doh ! I just realised why "nothing written"carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-20 04:24
A written agreement by the USA government would imply it decides military matters for the USA. We all know it does not.
The military will not allow politicians, the people to limit their actions.
Vladimir Putin is addressing them by repositioning his armies to allow a military first strike against NATO.... somewhere in Europe.
+3 # I only come here to readThe_4th_Turning 2022-01-20 00:27
Sammy b3368 comments. At first the mono-sentence postings annoyed me. But now, it’s a glimpse into something I cannot even begin to understand. And that’s fascinating.
+2 # RE: I only come here to readiCanWalk 2022-01-20 00:41
Here come old flat-top, he come groovin' up slowly
He got ju-ju eyeball, he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker, he just do what he please
+13 # Russia has asked for a security guarantee. That is all.White Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-19 23:42
According to Russian news reports, Russia is moving four entire armies from the far east to the Western fount. These four armies, even without those already present in western Russia, are sufficient to instantly destroy any force NATO and the US can muster and overrun all of Europe in a few days.

Moreover, Russia can likely mobilize 10 million troops quickly, and China, whose president has stated publicly that China has more than a treaty agreement with Russia, can mobilize 50 million soldiers. NATO, for all the bluster of its idiot Secretary General, has zero prospect of withstanding Russia in non-nuclear war.

This means, and the Kremlin knows this, that to save face Washington would have to go nuclear. This would mean the total destruction of the US and Europe. They would cease to exist.
+8 # A Bad MovieBakerCityTom@yahoo.com 2022-01-19 23:17
Have you ever started watching a movie and soon became weary with the bad acting. In this "movie" it keeps getting worse and our government actors keep doing and saying stupid things.

Many times they reveal info, at press conferences, that should be private. It really appears that the USA and NATO are trying to start WW3.

Do you think it is possible that the are receiving marching orders from a higher source? If so, to what end?
+1 # #Marching ordersPioneer 2022-01-20 10:16
Yep. They're doing as they're told.
+1 # It is written...MrsBlake 2022-01-20 01:55
upon the Georgia Guidestones... to maintain humanity under 500,000,000.

Given today's world population is near 8 billion; they (the higher source you query) have only to annihilate some 7.5 billion of us go accomplish their evil goal.

****************************

GEORGIA GUIDESTONES
In June 1979, a man using the self-professed pseudonym Robert C. Christian approached the Elberton Granite Finishing company on behalf of “a small group of loyal Americans” and commissioned the structure. Mr. “Christian” explained that the stones would function as a compass, calendar, and clock and should be capable of withstanding catastrophic events."

A message consisting of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones.

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion faith, tradition, and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth, beauty, love, seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth, Leave room for nature, Leave room for nature.

https://www.historicmysteries.com/the-georgia-guidestones/
+4 # RE: A Bad MovieWoulf 2022-01-20 01:27
"Depopulation", in no uncertain terms and by any means necessary.
+7 # RE: A Bad MovieTexasWolf 2022-01-20 00:47
Joel Skousen, years ago, predicted a provocation against Russia. The purpose would be to initiate a limited nuclear war, which would collapse the economy and eliminate the need to "deal" with entitlements, inflation, etc. This war would also conveniently do away with Constitutional Rights and turn the US/EU into a collective dictatorship.
+1 # Hmmmecsmith3 2022-01-20 00:08
Qui Bono? U.S. delta farmland well suited for rice harvesting; pork and cattle and feed grains to the N., NW., NE., SE. - using all available arable land, the yield for a foreign occupation could be many times the initial investment (i.e., death of conscripts in the initial conflict and damaged but widely outdated infrastructure.) So, who benefits in such a scenario? Too daring, right? Too "Pearl Harbor" kind of daring?
+19 # Lateness of the Hour: "Get Right with God."BakerCityTom@yahoo.com 2022-01-19 23:03
Hal understands the lateness of the hour and he has encouraged all of us to "GET RIGHT WITH GOD."

The following is a sample prayer much like I used to "get right with God."

Pray this prayer loud enough so that you can hear it with your own ears.

This is important.

Oh God in heaven I call on You
In the mighty name of Jesus
Receive me .....
as I accept Jesus as my Lord.....
I believe with all my heart, that Jesus died in my place
For all the wrong things I have ever done.
I believe you raised Jesus from the dead.
And I confess Him right now,
as my Lord and my Savior.
Please give me the assurance in my heart...
that I am saved.
Now, Father God fill me with your Holy Spirit
to overflowing.
Empower me to be the person you want me to be.
Father, in the name of Jesus
I apply the precious blood of Jesus over my spirit, soul and body.

In Jesus name, amen.

If you just prayed that prayer here is a good first Bible verse to encourage you:

20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, 21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
(Ephesians 3:20-21)
+5 # NOW GET YOUR SWORDWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-19 23:06
PREPARE FOR BATTLE.
# RUSSIA MAKES SMALL INCURSION INTO UKRAINEWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-19 21:42
PUTIN HAS TO DO SOMETHING SO NATO WILL SMASH THEM. PUTIN IS ON THE HOOK IN THE JAW.
+6 # You may be on it.tslinger 2022-01-19 22:45
The hook in the jaw indicates one being unwilling. Forced to act against his will.
+2 # dur' nesusvetnayaDudimus Maximus 2022-01-19 21:40
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov meeting with Antony Blinken nice

Pres Putin tells Minister Sergei, (in Russian) "Hey! I had to meet with the idiot Biden, it's your turn..." "Try not to make faces or crack up, just make that poker face you are so good at... and look like you are taking his dur' nesusvetnaya seriously...."
-1 # mierda de toroDudimus Maximus 2022-01-19 21:53
...and look like you are taking his and look like you are taking his чушь собачья seriously...."
+16 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeBob 2022-01-19 21:05
"UPDATE 7:30 PM EST --

U.S. Secretary of State says he will ***NOT*** be giving any written responses to Russia's proposals when he meets with Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov on Friday."

Almost sounds like we gave Russia our answer.

Finish up your preps, gas up your vehicles, then get on your knees and pray as hard as you ever had. We're as close to war here as I've seen since the Bay of Pigs. And we had JFK looking out for us. Biden is not JFK.
+1 # #NOT JFKPioneer 2022-01-20 10:22
I know that's right!
+12 # Dimitri DudumanSawyerb56 2022-01-19 20:52
Dimitri Duduman vision is playing out
Prepare Brace for impact.......
+3 # RE: Dimitri Dudumandaniel_martin 2022-01-19 21:45
I received the same vision. I saw all US cities bombed at night. No warning, no declaration of war, and before the bombardment, something cut off the eletricity.
+2 # RE: Dimitri DudumanEllen Ashley 2022-01-20 03:05
That’s Similar to Henry Gruver’s vision in the 1980s.
+1 # Henry GruverPioneer 2022-01-20 10:31
I heard that on the radio the other day. I wrote down the cities he said would get nuked.
New York
Miami
San Francisco
L.A.
San Diego
# Please, God...Rosewood11 2022-01-21 00:31
...don't forget to have him hit D.C.!!! Or as one person put it: "Mordor on the Potomac" !!!
+3 # "something cut off the electricity"LilBirdie 2022-01-19 23:40
EMP
Electric
Magnetic
Pulse
+17 # People want....Gulfcaptain 2022-01-19 20:38
I see several people here wishing Putin would "do something". Well he'll.. He is!! A strategist just doesn't rush in and start swinging. Chess is a game of calculated moves. Putin's 48 hour demand is just such a move. The best way to win a war is not to have one. Putin has been buying time over many years, planning, building superior weapons, building infrastructure and a country from the collapse of the old. A dummy rushes into a burning building without a plan. You want Putin to act? Against who? The US? Tell me, what have YOU done to defeat the world's most wicked nuclear force on earth? What's your plan? My guess is that you want Putin to do what you are unwilling to do.
+4 # IT'S ALL A PUPPET SHOWWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-19 20:38
AN ALIEN RACE RUNS THE WORLD!
+2 # ReptiliansEllen Ashley 2022-01-20 03:16
Reptilians who want us off the planet?
+2 # SO TRUEMrsBlake 2022-01-20 02:49
An Alien Race Runs The World...

[paraphrased scripture " "]
"The Sons of God (angels) saw that the women of earth were fair to look upon and took many to be their wives and had children by them who were the giants of that day; men of renown with great strength and stature. They were called Nephilim; and were on the earth before the flood and after the flood."
"And Jesus said some of the signs of His return would be that it would be as it was in
1. the days of Noah
2. as it was in Sodom and Gomorrah at the time of their destruction."

Both conditions are present on the earth now.
1. The 'aliens' that run the world are the hybridized: fallen angels/humans.
2. The community of folk who have alphabetized their 'group name' are the other.
# Maybe sorainmakerman 2022-01-20 01:01
Doubt they run it, but kibitzing is quite possible.
+8 # Tick Tock...AndyBenefield 2022-01-19 19:58
Well, I guess it’s a short waiting game now to see what happens. Arrogance and pride - two things I believe are mentioned in Revelation 17 - soon to be realized in Revelation 18. Keep the faith!
+3 # US,NATO 48 hourschip 2022-01-19 19:58
Well looks like everything is cut and dried.
Expect anything after Friday.
+5 # Useless EatersWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-19 19:56
Are Targeted for EXTERMINATION!
-4 # PUTIN NEEDS TOAnonymoussoul123 2022-01-19 19:39
Use those Poseidon torpedoes off both the east and wea coast...radioactive tsunami kill shot paralyzes or sets back USA for a generation...fast efficient quick..end the damn empire...but don't think Putin thinks as efficiently and cut throat like I do...oh well....
+1 # RE: PUTIN NEEDS TOTexasWolf 2022-01-20 00:30
It's cut throat...but doesn't account for the nuclear sub retaliation from the US. So I doubt this is the gambit President Putin would utilize.

That's the great thing about Russia's current position. Nobody knows what they will do next. It's a wonderful place to be...but it only lasts for a short time. And then the cat's out of the bag.
+2 # AndAnonymoussoul123 2022-01-19 20:13
Blow a couple off right in the Engliah Channel..and decommission UK and France...so simple...
-4 # RE: PUTIN NEEDS TOPaul Kurzlee 2022-01-19 19:46
Quoting nglulla:
Use those Poseidon torpedoes off both the east and wea coast...radioactive tsunami kill shot paralyzes or sets back USA for a generation...fast efficient quick..end the damn empire...but don't think Putin thinks as efficiently and cut throat like I do...oh well....

I too wish the putin would do something. I say that lots here and people down vote me and one asshole today had the gal to actually insult me and do a personal attack. It is in the thread here. I am happy to see I am not the only one here that wishes Putin would get this started up. We are entitled to that opinion and these others that don't agree should offer up a better idea here. So far none of them has been able to offer that up for discussion. Just fucking insults to any alternative. I told the CS to fuck off and shut the fuck up. Thats all I can do.
+4 # WellAnonymoussoul123 2022-01-19 20:11
Don't much pay attention nor am I affected emotionally by people's opinions or them down voting me...they are just human..in other words just pieces of dust after an average of 80 years on planet earth...so..do I care about what a PIECE OF DUST things...Nope...nothing gets to me...water off a ducks feathers..can't let it get to you either...
+17 # US government psychopathicBobbyjames1 2022-01-19 20:06
I am Patriotic but the vaccine Genocide proves our government not only liars and thieves but psychopaths
+11 # RE: US government psychopathicGunner 2022-01-19 21:48
The U.S. govt of today are absolute CRIMINAL filth period.
+13 # OtherScottd 2022-01-19 18:57
The Western media is all about propaganda, and we fall for it every time.

Cuban missile crises, remember that?

Essentially, NATO (small US...hahahaha)has creates six separate Cuban missile crises around the Russian Federation.

Time for the Russian Federation to take the garbage (NATO/US) out to the curb.

What Sucks? We are all doomed if the Russians keep their promises. Hope all are ready....and put not the blame on the the Russian Federation. Put it where it squarely belongs...the US/Nato security industrial complex, who needs an enemy to justify their huge budgets. SCS Out
+2 # RE: OtheriCanWalk 2022-01-19 19:05
Quoting Scottd:
The Western media is all about propaganda, and we fall for it every time.

Cuban missile crises, remember that?

Essentially, NATO (small US...hahahaha)has creates six separate Cuban missile crises around the Russian Federation.

Time for the Russian Federation to take the garbage (NATO/US) out to the curb.

What Sucks? We are all doomed if the Russians keep their promises. Hope all are ready....and put not the blame on the the Russian Federation. Put it where it squarely belongs...the US/Nato security industrial complex, who needs an enemy to justify their huge budgets. SCS Out


Remember the Maine.
-4 # iCanWalkPalehorse 2022-01-19 22:27
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Why do you repost someone's entire verbiage, that you reference, when you could simply state "in reference to the above post by... whom ever?" And then you do it 2 separate times!

Stupid is what stupid does.
# The repeatFollowTheeMoreNearly 2022-01-20 16:35
... is a courtesy to readers.
# RE: The repeatPalehorse 2022-01-20 21:37
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Are you really that stupid?
+1 # RE: iCanWalkiCanWalk 2022-01-19 23:10
Quoting Palehorse:
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Why do you repost someone's entire verbiage, that you reference, when you could simply state "in reference to the above post by... whom ever?" And then you do it 2 separate times!

Stupid is what stupid does.


Beware of the trund.
-1 # RE: iCanWalkPalehorse 2022-01-20 13:33
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So now you find stupid to be unacceptable and
accept being retarded. Don't forget to eat
your space potato's.
# RE: iCanWalkiCanWalk 2022-01-19 23:11
Quoting iCanWalk:
Quoting Palehorse:
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Why do you repost someone's entire verbiage, that you reference, when you could simply state "in reference to the above post by... whom ever?" And then you do it 2 separate times!

Stupid is what stupid does.


Beware of the trund.


......Trund!
# RE: OtheriCanWalk 2022-01-19 19:09
Quoting iCanWalk:
Quoting Scottd:
The Western media is all about propaganda, and we fall for it every time.

Cuban missile crises, remember that?

Essentially, NATO (small US...hahahaha)has creates six separate Cuban missile crises around the Russian Federation.

Time for the Russian Federation to take the garbage (NATO/US) out to the curb.

What Sucks? We are all doomed if the Russians keep their promises. Hope all are ready....and put not the blame on the the Russian Federation. Put it where it squarely belongs...the US/Nato security industrial complex, who needs an enemy to justify their huge budgets. SCS Out


Remember the Maine.


https://themillenniumreport.com/2018/04/remember-the-maine-the-first-false-flag-ship-attack-carried-out-by-the-us-government/
+3 # New Moontoemoss 2022-01-19 18:54
Feb. 1 is the next new moon...
# Feb 1stCJ 2022-01-19 19:16
Feb 1st is also Candlemass and Imbolic ( St Bridget's Day)
The Left handed path likes to cast during a new moon.
Peace.
+5 # Hell Freezes OverGloucesterAD97 2022-01-19 18:29
I guess Russia is not waiting "until Hell freezes over."
+4 # Use it or loose itSmiley1984*! 2022-01-19 18:24
Could it be an INTENTIONAL move to put Russia in the position of "use it or loose it", so they have to act FIRST!
When does the 48 hours run out, 12.00pm Friday 21st or some other time?
If this war starts and progresses; will there be a general call up?
Does the west have any genuine, moral and reasonable leaders, that will agree a negotiated solution?
+3 # RE: Use it or loose itPaul Kurzlee 2022-01-19 19:53
Quoting Smiley1984*!:
Could it be an INTENTIONAL move to put Russia in the position of "use it or loose it", so they have to act FIRST!
When does the 48 hours run out, 12.00pm Friday 21st or some other time?
If this war starts and progresses; will there be a general call up?
Does the west have any genuine, moral and reasonable leaders, that will agree a negotiated solution?

They will not honor ANY agreement they make they only say that in order to get a ceasefire. Because of this past track record Putin better decimate them completely FAST or the outcome might not be what it should be. Namely.. Russia wins and nato is DESTROYED. I pray for this because I would rather be dead then live under nato and their virus nightmare.
+1 # DestroyedPioneer 2022-01-20 10:27
It sounds better, but there are really old prophecies that day China will come and Russia with them. It won't be pretty
+7 # France, Germany, Russia, Ukrainecarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-19 19:01
agreed the Minsk settlement of the Donbas war.
The USA sabotaged it - stopping the Ukraine from fulfilling its agreements (new Constitution etc).
As regards the clock running out....it already has.
All that Russia wishes to do in response to the refusal of NATO to back off, - is being done.
Long range weapons, and supporting troops in Kaliningrad and Belarus are being installed - today. Diplomats and military are in Cuba, bound for Venezuela discussing new military bases. Russia is selling off dollar assets from its National Wealth Fund.
And for the EU - Russia does not have to sell gas to them.
+3 # Is the U.S. Secretary of State finalizing the attack strategy?Palehorse 2022-01-19 18:22
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Jan. 19, 2022
Updated 5:10 p.m. ET

KYIV, Ukraine — Two days before a meeting
with the Russian foreign minister, Secretary of
State Antony J. Blinken on Wednesday
appeared to reject one of Moscow’s central
requests, saying he would not provide his
counterpart with the written response to
Russia’s demands on Eastern European
security that the Kremlin says it expects.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/us/politics/blinken-us-russia-ukraine.html
+5 # BBC Nuclear Attack Warning Video from 2019Sentinel 6 2022-01-19 18:17
Has anyone else seen this video on YT based on a fictitious nuclear exchange between NATO and Russia off the coast of Turkey? The video was posted in 2019 but real life seems to be imitating this very video scenario!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cAZZR_Jki0&ab_channel=Mayur6
+3 # Good Investigative WorkWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-19 18:53
I was looking for this video. It could easily escalate as fast as the documentary suggests.
+12 # IfGulfcaptain 2022-01-19 18:04
When we see the first US/NATO ship sink to the bottom of the sea, there will be no turning back. The US operates like the IRS, relentless, lawless and mindless. How do you deal with such a beast?
+4 # GodSrmay72 2022-01-19 18:49
Pray and pray again and be in position to do as the Holy Spirit says. Again I remind 2 reasons why prayer is our only "HOPE" 1) BECAUSE WITHOUT GOD ALL ELSE IS FUTILE! 2) 90% OF THE WORLDS MILITARY ARE MARKED FOR THE BEAST!!!!! CONTACT YOUR LOCAL LEADERS TO SEE WHERE THEIR LOYALTY LIES? WE KNOW THE ANSWER BUT THEN AT LEAST YOUR LOCAL CHRISTIAN PATRIOTS WONT NEED TO GUESS. IF YOUR LEADERS SAY THAT THEY STAND WITH FAKE PRESIDENT BIDEN THEN PLAN TO RELIEVE THEM OF POWER.
YOU "WILL NOT" SHOOT YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS, IMPOSSIBLE! God has taken away "EVERY" PROTECTION BUT HIMSELF, NOW HE KNOWS WE MUST REPENT TO HEAL OUR LAND.
SO CALM DOWN YOU RAMBOS. IVE SAID MANY TIMES , THEY HAVENT FORCED OUR 2ND AMMENDMENT RIGHT BECAUSE THEY KNOW , THERE IS "NO" SHOOTING OUR WAY OUT OF THIS. THAT WOULD BE THE SAME AS THINKING WE CAN WIN A WAR WITH FLINTLOCKS ONLY LOL.
GOD IS OUR ONLY HOPE!
+11 # RE: IfStefan123 2022-01-19 18:17
You cut its head off ;)
+8 # The 48hr extension.Rod Stirling 2022-01-19 17:51
This is interesting, and suggests that Moscow is looking at one or more avenues that have recently surfaced.

It is known that Zelensky is trying to do some talks with Russia.

Zelensky gave a televised speech earlier today calling for calm going forward. Zelensky is an actor by trade so was able to give this speech with a straight face, though he appears to be rather nonchalant through out suggesting something else is afoot..........

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1483871210098335746

It is well known that a large minority of the Ukrainian Military's officer corp would support moving into the Russian sphere. After the routing of the coup in Kazakhstan, is it likely that the minority has become the majority?

The Ukrainian Military in the field is an absolute mess, from poor fitting to inadequate clothing for winter conditions. Equipment in poor condition to non-existent. Keeping the troops well fed has become a real crisis. Consequently morale is in the toilet along with its consequences such as high suicide and desertion rates plus increasing drug and alcohol abuse.

Moscow is known to be supportive of a regime change, which would leave NATO/US/UK holding the bunny.
+3 # wasnt the 19th the "deadline"?Dudimus Maximus 2022-01-19 17:34
It is interesting to note that no firm deadline for a Treaty proposal answer ever came out of the mouths of Russians BEFORE those ships set sail yesterday. They wanted an answer by Wednesday 1-19
+7 # Pfizer FOIcarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-19 17:10
https://www.globalresearch.ca/foia-docs-reveal-pfizer-shot-caused-avalanche-miscarriages-stillborn-babies/5767537
FOIA Docs Reveal Pfizer Shot Caused Avalanche of Miscarriages, Stillborn Babies
......
Because of this confusion, I called Pfizer and emailed questions to their media rep. Were 28 of 32 known pregnancy outcomes actually fatal in the first 10 weeks that the vaccine became available, as their report suggests? That’s an 87.5% pregnancy loss rate? And only one pregnancy outcome was “normal”? Please correct me if I’m wrong about this.

No reply.
+4 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeBowlsarefilling 2022-01-19 17:05
Another perspective with subtle differences. Very complex situation. Hard to know complete truth of the matter. We only know and see in part in this age. Prayer is only solution. But there is One who rules and reigns over all the conspirings of earth's kings.

https://jrnyquist.blog/2022/01/18/will-russia-invade-ukraine/#more-8318
# Going full circle.Rod Stirling 2022-01-19 16:59
Its hilarious too........

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1483828384291508232
-1 # It’s BlinkenSpetsnaz7 2022-01-19 16:51
It’s Blinken my families loyal blind servant!

Blinken

“Oh Master Robin you lost your arms in battle but you grew some nice boobs”

Quote Robin Hood Men in Tights!

“You gotta be a man to wear tights”
+1 # Lmao!CJ 2022-01-19 19:20
Love me some Mel Brooks! Thanks!
+4 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeNotthemama 2022-01-19 16:26
The ships could simply be leaving port to avoid an imminent nuclear attack. Much like how many airlines are avoiding American points of destination today.
Check the canceled flights. They have 5g in Europe, doesn't quite make sense that suddenly they are worried about 5g in the United States. Makes more sense to avoid nuclear blasts and fallout.
# Watch for same in americaSrmay72 2022-01-19 18:59
I agree , IF you see ships leave new York, sanding, la, Seattle, etc better get new shorts, because you will soil yourself knowing TPTB are moving high class assets away from a "known" attack
+2 # Our Senators are egging this onggn231 2022-01-19 16:13
They want a war.

Quote:
OP Senators Call On Biden And NATO To Bloody Putin's Nose - GOP Senators have called on the Biden Administration and NATO to take decisive action against Russia and bloody Putin's nose.

Senator Roger Wicker told reporters on Wednesday "As of yet no one has given Vladimir Putin a bloody nose".

"I think the alliance, our friends in NATO and a bipartisan majority are prepared to assist Ukraine in making sure that if it happens this time Vladimir Putin will get a bloody nose" he added.

Wicker spoke the comments accompanied by Senator Rick Scott, Senator Rob Portman and Senator Jim Inhofe during the Senate Armed Services and Senate Foreign Relations GOP news conference on Capital Hill in Washington.
Taken from Defcon Level Warning System: https://www.defconlevel.com/european-command-news.php#breaking-news
+3 # Our senators are egging this on.chip 2022-01-19 20:09
There's about as much difference between
a republican Shitbag and a democratic
Shitbag as there is between an alligator
and a crocodile.
+10 # RE: Our Senators are egging this onBeenThere 2022-01-19 16:29
Then they should be on the front line if hostilities start! Anything short of that indicates the fact that they are truly cowards!
+18 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeRAFO 2022-01-19 16:12
Exactly. Russia will strike BEFORE our pitiful “woke” forces are in place. We are going to witness a SEVERE humbling of the Eagle nation. It’s not going to be pretty. We have brought this on ourselves by letting a stolen election stand. We as a nation will never be the same after this.
+9 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeVercinge 2022-01-19 15:45
The Russians are champions in the game of chess and I think so are Putin and his staff. This game applied to military strategy, allows them to anticipate a good number of opponent's moves and ALL OVER THE WORLD. The military intelligence of the Americans is very great, but that of the Russians is much greater. Napoleon and Hitler have known something about it.
+7 # Blinken - no written anythingcarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-19 15:43
https://tass.com/world/1390515
US not to present written response to Russia’s proposals during Friday meeting — Blinken
+10 # How clever, BlinkySBGlett77 2022-01-19 16:19
The Russians know stalling tactics, and they also know not to trust Blinken any further than they could throw a bull by the tail.

The stall-and-waffle game is over.
# Blinken - no written anythingSusie501.92 2022-01-19 16:00
IMHO, Blinken needs to exercise humility or even the appearance of humility. It's time to act FOR America. It's time we citizens pray for miracles.
+5 # student of john mcstainselah 2022-01-19 15:42
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-high-time-bloody-putins-nose-unified-action

truly they must be living in a dream
+2 # RE: student of john mcstaincarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-19 16:59
They will fight to the last drop of Ukrainian blood.
+5 # Where to beginTheProphet 2022-01-19 15:34
The Red heels were Arizona State ROTC members, not active duty. But, I still think they should be prosecuted under the UCMJ for being out of uniform.

No sane man wants war. No sane soldier wants war. They server because in most cases they are honorable men, and/or fulfilling a duty to their country the best they can. Most don't care about lines on a map. They want to get home to their wife, girlfriend, family and/or friends. Not go die in a field in a foreign country.

It is said everything is planned years in advance. Even scripture states God declares the end from the beginning. Is. 46:10

God forbid war break out, but as was mentioned, leaders paint themselves into corners and are to prideful to step back from the cliff overlooking the abyss. As was in the time of Noah, it did take 100 years for the flood after Noah was told to build the ark. Noah was 500 years old when told to build the ark and 600 years old when the flood came. Genesis 6 & 7. So, God is longsuffering and wants man to repent and not die in his sin, but be saved.
+6 # The Sum of all FearsSpetsnaz7 2022-01-19 15:32
Hey this is a Tom Clancy novel! The Nazis want Russia and the US to fight so they can come to power out of the ashes! Who runs Ukraine Nazis put in power by the Nazis here, tell me I’m wrong!
-1 # RE: The Sum of all FearsiCanWalk 2022-01-19 15:50
Quoting Spetsnaz7:
Hey this is a Tom Clancy novel! The Nazis want Russia and the US to fight so they can come to power out of the ashes! Who runs Ukraine Nazis put in power by the Nazis here, tell me I’m wrong!


Hollywood can do what it wants, but in this case the film is supposed to be based on a Tom Clancy book that depicted the villains as Arab terrorists. Clancy never portrayed the nuclear terrorists as neo-Nazis. The villains have been changed. In the film, neo-Nazi terrorists get their hands on a lost nuclear device, and plan to use it at the Super Bowl. The plan is to disguise the attack as being caused by Russia, in the hopes of rekindling the Cold War.

https://www.aim.org/media-monitor/muslim-villains-cut-from-film/
# So it’s a movieSpetsnaz7 2022-01-19 16:53
Guess hellywood got it right sorry Tom Clancy
-1 # RE: So it’s a movieiCanWalk 2022-01-19 17:04
The Sum Of All Fears (2002) - Payback
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuRBU8UVhDU
+4 # Cannot waitSmiley1984*! 2022-01-19 15:30
Russia cannot wait for the west to fully position it's forces, it has to go before the convoy of US ships reaches it's destination.
Latakia airport will be a prime target as it can be used to attack NATO ships in the Mediterranean.It would not be difficult to neutralize especially if you have cruisers with missile capability, or carrier based aircraft. Israel has had several successful hits.
The bridge over the Kerch Straight is one of the vulnerabilities, destroy that and you cut off Crimea.
Then you have Kaliningrad surrounded by NATO forces, and Romania and Georgia right in the underbelly, Russia is going to have it's work cut out defending an attack from many directions, even from the east possibly.
The war gamers have plotted carefully, forcing Russia to make the first move, so they can justify that it is due to "Russian aggression".
If you know any good prayers for PEACE now is a good time to use them!
+3 # Blinken visits....carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-19 15:24
and Poroshenko is set free.
Wonder what job he has been given ?
+7 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-01-19 15:19
This is called "Let's you and him fight".

And the ones having us fight are laughing as they're sipping their drinks.
+4 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeSusie501.92 2022-01-19 15:14
First, I love my country. Second, it's best to seek Peace. We know bidan is a puppet & compromised; his stepping back from confrontation would be a PLUS for him. Pray he does the right thing, OR someone in our gov't does it for him.

BTW, God wants us to turn to Him & ask for His help. Let's do that; His solutions are far better than anything we can conceive.
-6 # I mentCarterSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-01-19 15:13
And my previous post I'm up for him to get involved with the Russian situation he needs to call the White House President Carter he needs to get a peace team together he needs to go there and judge the situation we have to have a lesson piece not something that's only going to last 6 months blinken will only give us 6 months
-5 # Anyone write to CarterSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-01-19 15:11
I'm not even going to bother I believe I'm one of them people if I wrote a letter to Jimmy it will go to the security people he would not get it I'm one of them type of people if you want peace and you want something good to happen someone out there write the Carter ask him to look into this website and look what's being said and done how close we are to war somebody out there can get a letter through to him don't mention my name don't mention my name in the letter the security folks have really followed up our country for for instance I play 829 every day my grandfather's anniversary and on one side and my grandmother's birthday on the other side it means something to me today they came out with 891 which is somebody else's anniversary that they judge is important we have to get around the security folks this time a letter must be sent to Carter someone please try to get him involved I can't do it it won't get through
# Jimmy Carter born 1924FollowTheeMoreNearly 2022-01-20 17:43
He appeared very frail last time I saw him on video. Don' t think he's up to your hope.
+5 # Sammy b3368Mike Cust 2022-01-19 17:57
I can't for the life of me figure out what you're going on about. But just...no. Jimmy Carter? Good Grief.
+4 # BoomLoki 2022-01-19 14:57
"...Gavrilov said, "I am convinced that with goodwill and a willingness to compromise in any situation, it is possible to find a way out to mutually acceptable solutions."

...But Garilov knows that the west does not have good intentions. Our gov't's have been taken over by satanic globalists, practicing witches who practice evil shi'ite. They are going to be wiped off the face of the earth along with the American gov't and much of the American people who allowed this happen b/c they're not much different from them. The west has abandoned Jesus, so Jesus is abandoning us. Nobody gets outta here alive, so you might as well face up to it, and pray for your eternal salvation. It's all you need, anyway. Just ask Jesus to come into your heart with Holy Spirit to change you, and repent of your (our) sins, and walk with the Holy Spirit through what is coming. There will be no food available, soon, except what the leftovers of the gov't has to offer, and that will come at a price of the mark of the beast. Don't sacrifice your soul for a bowl of soup. Pray to the Lord Jesus that he may keep you alive until He calls you home.

Good luck.
+3 # AmenLjmains 2022-01-19 15:12
Agreed, well said.
+4 # I used to read a lot of Prophetic dreams and visions.LilBirdie 2022-01-19 14:57
Several of them are coming to mind as of late. I cannot tell you from whom these prophetic dreams came from just what they entailed.
1. About Europe, read 10-12 years ago.
Europe is attacked by the Ottoman empire (Muslims). The person who had the dream said in the dream they didn't know where the attack came from. They awoke one morning and they where just there. They started slaughtering the European people with no mercy.
At the time it was impossible for me to figure how that could happen. 6-9 months later they started importing Muslims by the millions. I also remember at that time reports of boats trying to ferry guns & munitions to the area and patrols trying to stop them.
2. A dream about Ukraine. That person's dream said that all soldiers who are sent to fight & attack Russia in Ukraine are slaughtered. Russia does this to send a message to stay out of there area.
3. USA is EMPed. This causes great strife and suffering in our nation. Because of us being in such a weakened state China tries to take advantage of the opportunity and attacks us from the west. America fights hard and takes many casualties. At the point it looks like we could lose Russia comes to our aid. (Russia couldn't exist in a world where China had that much area).

There are other prophetic dreams I have read. Those 3 are big in my mind right now.
Are there others you guys have read? I'd like to read them. Would like to add more pieces to this interesting puzzle.
+2 # RE: I used to read a lot of Prophetic dreams and visions.JFY 2022-01-19 19:18
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Re dream #1: I've mentioned the following info here before so if you've already seen it I apologize.

Several years back, I remember reading a note about the Italian police interdicting a 40ft container that was chock full with way over 800 Turkish combat shotguns plus 1,000's of shells of ammunition (12 ga.). It was headed for a series of mosques in several central European countries.

The police said that they knew that this was a drop of water in a sea of similar contraband with destinations all over Europe. All of them headed to mosques.

Nothing has been done about it because for the ones on the ground who know about it, it's way above their pay grade, and for those who could do something about it, they are dirty traitors who are on the take.

And you're right; one fine day like any other, the Europeans will wake up to the sound of heavy shotgun fire outside their homes, then in their neighbors' houses, and then in theirs and they won't have a clue as to what is happening. Clueless to the bitter end.

The way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if this happened at some moment between the next few weeks and the end of September/October of this year. Then the weather will turn bad again.

The same is bound to happen in certain areas of the U.S. and Canada (they don't call it Kanuckistan for nothing), notably around Dearborn, Michigan and other places and in most of Eastern Canada.
+5 # prophetic dreamsA. Glenn 2022-01-19 15:12
Henry Gruver had a prophetic dream in which he saw the Russian fleet sail through the English channel, (just like when they took their fleet through yesterday) just before the United Stated was attacked with nukes.
+3 # Red Horse of Rev 6 - Great Sword/WarStormClouds 2022-01-19 14:37
If you read/study the Bible and Bible Prophecy you will notice that the White Horse of Revelation 6 is riding. The Red Horse of Rev 6 presents the removal of peace and a Great Sword which is meant to mean Great War. Notice the horse is red, an indication of much blood. It is this person's opinion that this will occur next as this world could be in the beginning of God's judgments now. Not the Trib but just before that.
Get ready!!
+1 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeRichM3 2022-01-19 14:29
If I knew ground zero was NY, I would be moving to NY
# MountainsLoki 2022-01-19 15:04
It is ground zero, but so's the rest of the country. Come on up to the mountains, and wait it out, you'll need at least three years of food and water. Probably not enough.
# RE: MountainsJFY 2022-01-19 18:54
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I don't know if you've noticed that now they are making killer drones. One was recently used in Libya. Those will become ever more capable and with ever better night/day/all weather sensors. Their batteries are also improving tremendously, increasing their range substantially.

They will start applying those improvements and more on land-based battle-robots, of the kind that several of the world's militaries now have in operation.

Being in the mountains will soon cease to provide any significant protection.

I posit that our last stand is here and now, in the urban and suburban areas before the leviathan gets too large to defeat or escape from.
# RE: MountainsRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-01-19 15:23
And get "How to stay alive in the woods". That should save you.
+7 # "I Think"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-01-19 14:13
The Old Demented Joe-Hole 'Shit Pants' Biden and Crew of Crooks "WOULD RATHER HAVE A NUCLEAR WAR THAN FACE A TRIAL OVER HIGH TREASON COMMITTED VIA THE COVID-19 CON GAME THAT DESTROYED AMERICA!"
+4 # RE : I ThinkRedlist Renegade 2022-01-19 16:02
]Oh it's a LOT More than Just THAT and it's a Lot More than Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 !!! They've been Robbing the Bank out the back door as well as right under our noses with all of the Trillions of dollars that they've been "Borrowing" and outright Stealing from us that We The People are on the hook for paying back with our land and our Lives !!! Not to mention the Trillions in unfunded liabilities in Social Security and Medicare that they've Robbed us Blind with too !!! And How do they plan on getting Away with Robbing the damn Bank ? By Burning the "Bank" along with ALL of US to the damn ground with a nice BIG Ass Thermonuclear WAR !!! Stalin said it Best "NO People , NO Problems" !!!
+6 # No Great Military Leaders in US AnymoreStormClouds 2022-01-19 14:10
Supplemental:
Remember, we have no great military leaders like we had in WW2 - Patton, MacArthur, etc. Those military geniuses don't exist in our socially and politically dysfunctional government any more. But we have plenty of training warriors in red high heels. Pitiful and disheartening! We will lose our shorts if this war kicks off.
+13 # America-Weak and Feeble NowStormClouds 2022-01-19 14:00
The US is not pulling back - "US Giving Ukraine $200M More In Military Aid As Blinken Talks "Diplomacy"" - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-giving-ukraine-200m-more-military-aid-blinken-talks-diplomacy

Russia/Putin (former KGB) will not give in to a weak and feeble American White House/Administration. Get ready!!
+6 # This could bepaulattahoe 2022-01-19 14:26
the preamble about why America is not mentioned in the Bible. Russia's strategy has been a 20-year waiting game to confront the West from a position of strength they didn't have in the '90s when we were foolishly laughing at them.
+2 # This could beMike Cust 2022-01-19 18:05
Similar to China. Manufacturing jobs, pharmaceuticals, buying our land and our crummy leaders, get control of the internet (WTHeck?), gather DNA/unleash a bio weapon, produce the tests for the bio weapon (lol). The long, long game.
"Appear weak when you are strong..."
+3 # This could beMike Cust 2022-01-19 18:07
And per the Bible, China can fill that 200 million man army a few times over.
+10 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeTexasWolf 2022-01-19 13:49
Idiotic D.C. painted itself into a corner it cannot get out of.
+14 # Or…Gregg W 2022-01-19 14:11
The entities pulling their strings WANT this to happen.

Either way, physically we can’t stop it. We might all get dragged into another world war. We may be forced to kill or be killed to survive.

Apart from prayer, we are powerless.

Everyone here has their own idea to whom to pray. I won’t presume to tell you.

Except that the God of the Bible is the only one who has proven himself over and over (Old and New Testament).

If we don’t know about Him, it’s because we don’t know the Bible.
He displayed His wonder and power in the first books Genesis and Exodus.
He will again display His power as foretold in the last book - the Revelation.
-6 # Raymondoo CommentsLRTaffy 2022-01-19 13:38
You are intellectually bankrupt. Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
-2 # RE: Raymondoo CommentsPaul Kurzlee 2022-01-19 18:49
Quoting Gregg W:
Raymondoo apparently.

Quoting LRTaffy:
You are intellectually bankrupt. Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

I have the right to my opinion and I realize it may be a little different then most. YOU are out of line here and need to shut the fuck up yourself. Are you a fucking doctor or something that can diagnose my intellectually? You are a piece of shit and YOU need to keep your fucking mouth shut. FUCK YOU Maggot.
# Well Raymondoo......LilBirdie 2022-01-20 23:26
You have removed all doubt.
# Who?Spetsnaz7 2022-01-19 13:49
Who are you speaking about?
# He BBC was referring toGregg W 2022-01-19 14:13
Raymondoo apparently.
# Damn phoneGregg W 2022-01-19 14:13
The letters BBC were not intended to be there.
+19 # Hey, US/NATO/EU!!! Anybody out there ready to GROW UP!!!Rosewood11 2022-01-19 13:36
It has been pointed out that President Trump managed to get along with President Putin, and have calm in Ukraine , etc. for four years. You could see the difference in Mr. Putin's body language as opposed to his reaction to obama. He believed he had someone who would work with him. When Mr. Putin met with obama (lack of capitalization or title is absolutely intentional !!!), Mr. Putin slumped in his chair, and looked very unhappy. With Mr. Trump he was engaged, gesturing, and leaning into the conversation. It took Biden less than a month to destroy everything that had been accomplished.

Now the only "adult in the room" is Russian. Mr. Putin is a martial artist. He will give America just enough rope to hang itself. Is Biden stupid enough to stick his head in a noose? Me thinks he most certainly is!!!
+6 # PreparednessShamo 2022-01-19 13:31
What does it look like to be prepared for this? Of course the necessities;

Food- 6 months no less (1 year IMO)
Water- as much as you can store plus filters

Defense- usual box fed boomstick (556,223) plus back up, a side arm (IMO a full kit with platecarrier, Spare mags, IFAC (x2), belt for side arm and spare mags)

Safe house- store your preps, HQ, and comms

What else would be needed to traverse the days ahead? Thank you all for your insight and Godspeed.
+3 # PreparedGregg W 2022-01-19 14:20
The things you listed are essential.

To me, along with those is the Mental aspect.
Just knowing that this crap might happen soon helps us to ‘mentally prepare’.

If missiles fall in the homeland (even if we’re not sure who dropped them) it is better to NOT be caught completely by surprise.

The sheer fear and chaos among those who had NO IDEA this could happen will be astronomical.

It will still be painful and devastating but foreknowledge gives us a bit of an edge.
+2 # SupplySpetsnaz7 2022-01-19 13:50
Set up caches along your route don’t put all your eggs in one basket!
+19 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeGlory Divine 2022-01-19 13:29
Thank You Hal for keeping us all informed. i know it has not be easy with all weighing on your own heart & life, family. My heart grieves reading all these comments of those with kids that are not listening, so very sad. Trust in The Lord, watch & be sober. Put it all in HIS hands, He knows our heart's cry Amen !
+2 # LovelySpetsnaz7 2022-01-19 13:57
This is a wonderful comment and oh so true!
-6 # Sad sad situationSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-01-19 13:28
I can't believe Russia is in such a horrible situation yeah yeah I'm very hurt they're not being taken seriously or any respect Bush Carter would go and that way they have the respect I don't think he's being briefed or previous Protestant carter listen that's the guy that will save the day everybody will walk away satisfied me happy maybe Russian and go down to 600,000 troops for guaranteed from NATO or maybe change to a promise from NATO that they will not strike Russia first or her interest it's a promise never to have a first strike position le
+8 # The adult in the roomTC 2022-01-19 13:00
Thank goodness there is still an adult in the room who asks, for the tenth time, “Are you really really sure you want to die?” and hopes against all hope that maybe something happens and the answer finally will be “No” so all of us can go on living our imperfect lives for at least a few more years.
+3 # WWIIIVercinge 2022-01-19 13:21
Instead of making useless and stupid gossip, answer YOURSELF above all and honestly, to the following question: "In your opinion, who is in the wrong, Russia who has, I think twenty bases around the world or America which has 700, mostly all around Russia? If America finds itself in such a dead end, the fault lies with the superficial and empty hubris of its leaders, but that of the People is not much less. Wake up Americans, before it's too late.
+5 # awakedoopy 2022-01-19 13:31
People are awake- some sit in jail for Jan 6. Do you think our leaders listen to us? That's gone last Jan when the Fascist take over installed Biden. We are awake and considered terrorist by the new Reich.
# RE: awakeJFY 2022-01-19 14:40
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It's not a Reich, it's a Soviet.

"You will own nothing and you will be happy", remember?
-19 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativePaul Kurzlee 2022-01-19 12:54
Another deadline that will just come and go. We have heard this same line so many times already from Putin. He won't do fuck all except talk. The stoopid idiot still thinks he can make a deal with nato and gringo. No wonder they think he is weak. Last time in 2014 he kept giving the ukranians cease fires when his men started kicking their asses. Now Putin knows if he does not deal with those satalites in space guiding all the nato equipment he is going to lose. IF he takes those out of service first then maybe he can do something IF he so decides. He will still be asking for talks he is such a moron to think he can make a deal. Putin better get this started up in 48 hours or he is really going to be the joke of the planet for all his bravado talk for the last years. Shit or get off the pot now Vladmir. FUCKING DO SOMETHING.
+11 # WisdomSpetsnaz7 2022-01-19 13:56
There is wisdom in diplomacy and patience you speak of what you don’t understand! You really think any sane leader or sane man for that matter would want to begin a war when it might be avoided? Wouldn’t any sane rational leader try again and again and again to make the case to avoid a war? Especially one like this between the two biggest boys on the block! Stop speaking like a foolish American in his mothers basement with an ar and a video game thinking you would fight off hordes of invaders solo or single handedly fight off wave after wave of Chinese or FEMA agents! Don’t speak of what you don’t understand! Get outside and enjoy life and prepare, exercise and train! And not just your thumbs and mouth! And pray pray and pray hard this needs to be avoided, but if it does need to come it will and it will likely be swift and decisive like we have never seen before hyperwar!
# You're correct totallySamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-01-19 13:31
You're a wise smart gentleman you even more wiser than I am and it's saying a lot you have the answers thank you for your post the world needed to hear that and experience that post
+1 # WWIIIVercinge 2022-01-19 13:23
Instead of making useless and stupid gossip, answer YOURSELF above all and honestly, to the following question: "In your opinion, who is in the wrong, Russia who has, I think twenty bases around the world or America which has 700, mostly all around Russia? If America finds itself in such a dead end, the fault lies with the superficial and empty hubris of its leaders, but that of the People is not much less. Wake up Americans, before it's too late.
-13 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-01-19 12:49
Russia is ready for comprises to meet with blinken no war coming I wish though Carter was going to Russia to make peace please Hal write to Carter. He will look into what you're saying on your website and radio program you can save the day by the writing to Carter
# WWIIIIVercinge 2022-01-19 13:23
Instead of making useless and stupid gossip, answer YOURSELF above all and honestly, to the following question: "In your opinion, who is in the wrong, Russia who has, I think twenty bases around the world or America which has 700, mostly all around Russia? If America finds itself in such a dead end, the fault lies with the superficial and empty hubris of its leaders, but that of the People is not much less. Wake up Americans, before it's too late.
+8 # Thank Youeklmattke 2022-01-19 12:48
Thank you so much Hal for keeping us updated. Shalum.
+14 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeLambs Servant 2022-01-19 12:36
High noon as arrived. Make sure that you are spiritually and materially prepared
+10 # No BlinkingDwilliamsDDS 2022-01-19 12:33
Do we believe that Putin will blink at the last minute?

I don't think he will.

I think everyone has dug themselves into a position that any compromise will be perceived as weakness, when it's really just diplomacy. Cooler heads always work best in times like this.
-5 # WWIIIVercinge 2022-01-19 13:24
Instead of making useless and stupid gossip, answer YOURSELF above all and honestly, to the following question: "In your opinion, who is in the wrong, Russia who has, I think twenty bases around the world or America which has 700, mostly all around Russia? If America finds itself in such a dead end, the fault lies with the superficial and empty hubris of its leaders, but that of the People is not much less. Wake up Americans, before it's too late.
-8 # Your correctSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-01-19 12:52
President Carter should go there he should get permission from the current president I don't think he has any idea how serious this is President Carter he's the only one that can save the day and bring respect to Russia concerning America I hope he's well enough to go and give us a darn enough to go and allowed to go that's the man that's The peacemaker that someone with the cool rational head The peacemaker
# CarterCJ 2022-01-19 19:55
Sammy Carter is too old and Reagan is dead.
We are screwed.
-2 # WWIIIVercinge 2022-01-19 13:26
Instead of making useless and stupid gossip, answer YOURSELF above all and honestly, to the following question: "In your opinion, who is in the wrong, Russia who has, I think twenty bases around the world or America which has 700, mostly all around Russia? If America finds itself in such a dead end, the fault lies with the superficial and empty hubris of its leaders, but that of the People is not much less. Wake up Americans, before it's too late.
# It's ready too late.CJ 2022-01-19 19:53
It's already too late. Muricans care more about football than Civil Defence. They care more about Rainbow Flag representation ( a very small minority ) than they do Old Glory representation ( ALL of US)
Americans are 3 percent of the world's population that takes by force 30 percent of the world's resources by gun point and squaders it.
And they don't care.
The top is corrupt because of the individual s corrupt in the bottom.
Voltaire was right. As is Catherine Austin Fitts.
Even God has a breaking point.
Peace.
+6 # Blinken already said nope response by Friday..Lexie 2022-01-19 12:28
Just caught a tweet from Blinkens lot saying there will be no written response by Friday. End of covid restrictions in UK may be short and sweet.
+18 # Thank You Hal....Jonesy042 2022-01-19 12:18
for all your difficult work informing us who will listen! TheDeepState runs the govts of the world. I think the world is being fooled by the narrative that is being witnessed now. They have had many many years of planning for this very moment to create the utter chaos that is about to explode. All this so that the REAL leader of the great reset NWO may appear and offer false peace with all “lying signs and wonders.” Consider the following:

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_masonsknightstemplar15.htm



Psalm Chapter 2:

Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain?

The kings of the earth set themselves, And the rulers take counsel together, Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,

"Let us free ourselves from their rule," they say; "let us throw off their control."

The One enthroned in heaven laughs; the Lord scoffs at them.

Then He shall speak to them in His wrath, And distress them in His deep displeasure:

“I have installed My King(CHRIST) on Zion, upon My holy mountain.”

I will proclaim the decree spoken to Me by the LORD: “You are My Son; and I Your Father.
Ask of Me, and I will give You The nations for Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth for Your possession. You will break them with an iron scepter; You will shatter them like pottery.”

Therefore, you kings, be wise; be warned, you rulers of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Bow the knee and worship the Son or He will be angry and you will perish in your rebellion, for His anger may ignite at any moment.

Blessed are all those who put their trust in HIM.
+6 # AMEN !oldschool 2022-01-19 12:50
Thank you Jonsey for posting that.
"Blessed are all those who put their trust in HIM."
+8 # It is possible that nuclear war will be the result.White Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-19 12:16
Prior to using force, Russia is likely to position nuclear missiles 200 miles off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts of the US as a constraint on Washington turning a low-key conventional action into nuclear war in order to save face. Washington in its arrogance and stupidity has set itself up for a defeat that it will find difficult to accept, especially as Washington will have brought it on itself.

Putin has expressed his despair many times that Washington cannot accept the sovereignty of other countries and learn to live together in the world. To maintain peace, all Washington needed to do was to demilitarize the NATO members that border Russia and cease adding countries to NATO. Instead, an over confident Washington drowning in hubris made a bad decision.
https://hostileliving.home.blog/2022/01/19/first-strike-from-russia-soon-there-is-no-turning-back/
+9 # You Do Not Get It At All.Doug Brown 2022-01-19 12:15
There are two conflicting word stories, and
the west will not budge, the West cannot budge.
Budging would mean repudiating their narrative about everything. For instance, it would mean explaining why they destroyed Trump with the Russian collusion fabrication.
They would have to explain the bullshit going on with the CIA, and why CNN played so easily into the narrative, all of it. Not going to happen.
To back down from Russia, so called, and offer
the Security Gaurantees Russia requires would mean the equivelent of disrobing in public.
Liars believe their lies.
Chronic liars believe their bullshit.
Does Nuland know she is full of shit? Or, Blinken?
+23 # My kidsEmptyNester 2022-01-19 12:15
So I’m trying to convince my adult kids to realize there could be a situation in which in our lifetimes has never occurred here in the USA. The eldest (with my 3 grandbabies) tells me her planning includes walking through the rubble to a call center to let me know they are ok. My middle one tells me she’s just calling a lid, if her way of life is destroyed, she doesn’t feel like farming or starting over. My youngest, in college, says nobody knows what will happen, war talk is clickbait, quit blowing up my phone. My spouse is simply trying to yes me to death and hope like hell my crazy doesn’t show when we are in public.
# The life of LotCJ 2022-01-19 20:31
I know how you feel. Then I remember this. Lot had more children than 2. Book of Jasher.
Or like my Dad used to say " You can lead a horse to water,but you can't make him drink:
Remember you have done what you can.
And some folks have to learn the hard way.
Blessings to you and may you find God's peace.
+5 # IgnoreSpetsnaz7 2022-01-19 14:03
You do what you can and for that you should be honored! Stay true to God and your family keep trying to break through, the Covid narrative has failed now the powers that be have moved on to the next crisis for control and their great reset! Pray for your family that God wakes them up and shows them fast! Pray because only he can change the hearts of men and women no one else can, not information, not even in some cases personal experience but God can, he can make a way where there is no way, PRAY!
Blessings!
+6 # Get It...My FamilyLassieLou 2022-01-19 13:53
Boy do I get it..... Husband "I don't have time to worry about that crap,you(fill in the space) worry/hoard/are to paranoid.And I worry way to much.BUT he can fix/make almost anything
Daughter 1, Mental Issues,Physical Issues.......and Unstable, even violent at times she's not a resource,she's a Huge DETRIMENT.....Love her,but can't risk her being ANYWHERE near
Daughter 2 "Oh,yeah,I lived with all "that" growing up.....I'm living my life now,my way" (covid divorce,with 3 mostly adult kids) "And I'll just come back there,if I HAVE to" Yeah,probably not going to happen,sweetheart.....I love her,but honestly,she to is /will not be helpful.I'd let a couple of her kids come,the third if she don't drag her lowlife friends with her
Daughter 3,to far away to get home,but knows what's happening & has a pretty good support group around her
Daughter 4,thinks I'm nuts but humors me,has medical problems as do her kids,I'm really worried about one of those kids,needs surgery for sure & maybe chemo or won't survive...........that is my worst fear as of today for that baby...and the medical system is a FRICKIN joke..they couldn't drag their feet more if they tried
Youngest daughter is hearing & seeing,but has a newly dx'd autoimmune......and trying to wind her way thru to be able to stay awake & alert. She will do what it takes,but will have to sleep for 10 hours to recoup.....
I just pray to GOD that these Bozo's get it figured out,but see the writing on the wall.....it's just so sad.But I'm about as ready as I can be,with everything I'm dealing with
+3 # #they call us crazyPioneer 2022-01-19 13:30
At least my husband and I are on the same page.
+1 # they call us crazyLassieLou 2022-01-19 15:06
I just told Grand Daughter that she was NOT bringing her (crazy,lunatic) friend and (friends) bi or trans "boyfriend" to my house. So G.D. can break into her Mom's and get her old mattress.Mom has an empty house that I can see from mine......AND I WAS CALLED RUDE!!!! I try to think back to when I was young,if I'd brought some low life's to my parents house,there would've been a "party" that I wouldn't have wanted to be at!!!
+11 # Same heredaloisi 2022-01-19 12:42
Nobody, including family, wants to hear this....we are crazy until we are NOT. Sad to say. Jesus is the only way, but until then it is so frustrating.
+7 # My kids-Lexie 2022-01-19 12:42
My son and daughter while agreeing regards the entire Covid BS have treated me like I'm an obsessive ,its like they are smoking the whacky that you used to get 50 years ago and I have entered the twilight zone. I bought supplements that just might get my daughter through should their be a problem getting prescriptions for her thyroid treatment . I told her today and for once she gets it. My son still thinks it will disappear without a prob. :(
+7 # My FamilyMLB18960 2022-01-19 12:33
At least she just says yes. I tried to talk to my wife about this and she gets stressed by these things and got upset with me. It is really hard for people to accept what is really happening. However, I don't think Russia is bluffing and I think they and China know that if they are going to move on things, now is the time.
+2 # Spouse believes I'm gullibleFollowTheeMoreNearly 2022-01-19 14:02
ALL of it, although he finally understands about Covid and VAXXX. Total normalcy bias. No war, no prob with Chinese or Russians, no FEMA camps, no impending famine ... He said I've wasted a lot of money on preps. He has become persecuter.
+6 # Here tooMike Cust 2022-01-19 12:27
It’s a tough spot for sure. You are definitely not alone friend.
+4 # lolselah 2022-01-19 12:25
it's the same here. you are not alone. only the strong will survive.
+8 # RE: My kidsStefan123 2022-01-19 12:22
I am sorry to hear this, as we all here can rekate in some way to this. It is darn hard. I dont want to be the one telling my loved ones "I said you so" and that no one was preparing for this.

We are being called out crazy conspiracy theorists.
+3 # If our leaders don't compromiseBooskybobcat 2022-01-19 12:12
they will have blood on their hands. I hope that cooler heads prevail and a compromise is reached.
# WWIIIVercinge 2022-01-19 13:33
If WWIII blows up the 99% responsibilities are in the frightening corrupted West ruled by The United States of ISRAEL.
+11 # WARjroot 2022-01-19 12:12
The masses in the US do not have a clue what is about to happen in the next week. I would not put it past Biden to strike first with the expected false flag.
+8 # First Strike from Russia SoonWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-19 12:11
Russia is not going to sit and wait for that to happen. Ukraine most certainly will not be permitted to be a member of NATO. Russia would reincorporate Ukraine into Russia rather than permit that to happen. No US or NATO missile bases will be permitted in Ukraine. If they are there or are put there, they will be destroyed.

The existing US missile bases in Romania and Poland will be destroyed. Russia can achieve this by air or missiles and has no need to invade. It would be pointless for NATO to mobilize as its conventional forces are small compared to Russia and incapable of putting up any kind of fight against Russian armies. Russia could overrun Eastern Europe long before the US could mobilize enough forces to put up a fight.
+6 # I thoughtAKSrChief 2022-01-19 12:08
Wednesday was the deadline? If they extended it, it will only look like weakness to the Globalist NeoCons.
# extended deadlinecarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-19 14:34
Well yes. But they are continuing to prepare for war. And ignoring all demands to back off troops on the Ukrainian border. And flying in to Cuba and Venezuela to discuss new military bases.
+3 # RE: I thoughtNotthemama 2022-01-19 13:23
As Hal said, these rotten squirrel brained fools do not have the capability to see the world through any perspective than their own.
I expect a nato response before the Russian deadline. There is no honor in the western leadership.
The Russians will be prepared for it, and respond accordingly. I would rather that everyone took their marbles home and pouted alone, than the 2 biggest morons Duke it out.
Does 5.minutes or 45 minutes prep time mean much of anything? Our leaders will not tell us.
Only when Ottawa and Washington dissappear in a fire cloud will we suspect anything. He'll maybe even then we will only suspect that the localized blackout that we are told to relax about is something more when indivually people start picking up a spike in radiation.

Our governments will still tell us that it was a planned demolition that got out of hand haha.

Remember the only reason we got word when we did about Fukushima was independent citizens were reporting the doubling of background radiation. Until it became too much to ignore, all the governments and media were denying a meltdown occurred.
The start of ww3 will be the same.
+7 # RE: Russia Gives US/NATO 48 Hours to Respond to Treaty InitiativeBeenThere 2022-01-19 12:04
I really hope that the West doesn't squander the Russian gesture of an additional 48 hours. This is the equivalent to the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. All of this going on and a great many Americans have no idea........
+2 # YepCJ 2022-01-19 20:22
Yep and they don't care for the most part.
Little social experiment.
Go to a local department or Grocery store.
Ask clerk or anyone around where the local Civil Defence shelter is at.
IF they know what you are talking about they blow it off.
Mention what's going on and you will be told
" Oh that will never happen here"
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