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UPDATED 12:21 PM EST -- Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking Place

UPDATED 12:21 PM EST -- Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking Place

US-Russia talks on Ukraine have failed. Russia says US and it’s NATO allies are not prepared to meet Russia’s key demands for security guarantees. Russian envoy to OSCE Lukashevich has publicly stated "If we don’t hear a constructive response to our proposals within a reasonable time frame and aggressive behavior towards Russia continues, we'll have to act to eliminate threats to our national security."

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# USMCWoulf 2022-01-14 05:10
The real deal. 5:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjH4UgE_deo
When you raised your hand and "swore" your oath, this is what it meant.
# "You Can't Cry"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-01-13 23:49
If you "Eat A Tootsie Roll!" So have plenty on hand "If The Nukes Fly."
+1 # Man behind the curtainBobbyjames1 2022-01-13 22:53
If Russia was threatening to nuke Israel this would end instantly!
# PLEASE:Dudimus Maximus 2022-01-13 21:43
WHERE IS the senator murphy false flag statement???
# THANKS HAL!!!Dudimus Maximus 2022-01-14 12:40
Quoting Candace1!:
WHERE IS the senator murphy false flag statement???

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/uh-oh-u-s-gov-t-now-talking-false-flag-by-russia-to-justify-invasion-likely-means-u-s-going-to-attack-and-call-it-false-flag-by-russia
+5 # Movement of Military HardwarePalehorse 2022-01-13 20:14
|

Another horse, fiery red, went out.

And it was granted to the one who sat on it

to take peace from the earth,

and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great sword. (A great and fearful weapon system)

Revelation 6:4
-7 # Hi HalDM56 2022-01-13 18:56
If you are broadcasting tonight from your alternate site, I will consider the severity of this.If not, what am I to believe? You sell fear.
# RE: Hi HalWoulf 2022-01-13 23:56
Nope, just intel. Make of it what you will. Otherwise go watch CNN. If you see a Marine running, try to keep up. If you wind up in a "fire fight", guess you ran the wrong way.
+2 # RE: Hi HalKevin 2022-01-13 22:12
@DM56 Believe what you want to believe, it's no skin off anyone else's nose.

Everyone's situation is different, even yours. Stop being a dick just because you can be.
+2 # SELLING??Dudimus Maximus 2022-01-13 21:54
Quoting DM56:
If you are broadcasting tonight from your alternate site, I will consider the severity of this.If not, what am I to believe? You sell fear.

WTF.... the dude is reporting, at his own risk (of getting it wrong by providing up to the minute reports- sometimes unsubstantiated, but that's called REAL TIME) play by play, what he's hearing. Go somewhere and listen to koombuyya sites and stations if u want puppies and unicorns reports...
+1 # Warren Buffet said:Dudimus Maximus 2022-01-13 20:58
Quoting DM56:
If you are broadcasting tonight from your alternate site, I will consider the severity of this.If not, what am I to believe? You sell fear.
Warren Buffet said: "if you know the what, you're good; you can't know the when, but if you know the what, you are good to go (can and should act on that)
+1 # i wish...Dudimus Maximus 2022-01-13 22:04
Warren Buffet said: "if you know the what, you're good; you can't know the when, but if you know the what, you are good to go (can and should act on that) I WishTF that callers would LISTEN, and keep their comments in line with the topics and flow of the night's discussion. IF U ARE GOING TO CALL, DO THE REST OF US A FAVOR AND STAY IN CONTEXT. It's like an amateur variety show and tell time with most of you. We all would appreciate it. Don't waste Hal's free venue time with your off topic ideas
+5 # China closed portsarcace 2022-01-13 18:41
So China closed their ports today, which may be entirely for COVID-19 as reported. However, it would also make sense as a first move if China wanted to invade Taiwan or aid Russia in taking Ukraine or attacking the US.
+2 # @ China closed ports — arcaceRod Stirling 2022-01-13 20:01
The shut downs are only a some ports, which is resulting in shippers clogging other ports........

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/global-economy-heading-mother-all-supply-chain-shocks-china-locks-down-ports

Its just a part of China's ongoing covid non-sense.
-1 # RE: @ China closed ports — arcaceRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-01-13 20:42
So many delays getting Amazon orders..

The hor-ror...the hor-ror...
# Wrong buttonWoulf 2022-01-14 00:17
Sorry RMBM. I hit the wrong button. I thought it was a cool smart a** remark and wanted to up vote it. Sadly, that is what most people seem to feel. That says a lot about "us" as a people.
+3 # Who is the “silver fox” America is negotiating with Russia ...Haarnaś 2022-01-13 18:35
Wendy Sherman!
https://media.nu.nl/m/yolx9rda4hdf_wd1280.jpg/wendy-sherman-is-het-geheime-wapen-van-de-vs-op-het-wereldtoneel.jpg

Here is Putin's blueprint for dealing with Ukraine. Hal is right, time is critical, and Russians know it. They will not drag it out to let barebones NATO keep up with Russian preparations!

https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-war-russia-would-look-like/5766810
+4 # @ Who is the “silver fox” America is negotiating with Russia.Rod Stirling 2022-01-13 20:51
A jewess who is full of embitterment and resentment, who's job all along has been to drag the world into a world war.........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_Sherman

May she rot in hell.
+2 # Wikipediacodeblue 2022-01-13 21:07
The wikipedia link said she was the lead negotiator for the Iran nuclear deal.
+4 # Scott Ritter analysis.carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-13 18:55
I agree with this.
The Russian army will destroy the Ukrainian army - and its weapons and bases.
I would just add that it will most likely conduct a referendum in the Donbas , possibly also in the Mariupol region as well, on rejoining Russia.
-2 # One chance and 7.62x39 isn't itSrmay72 2022-01-13 18:22
No matter how bad God allows life to be, he cries out to us nonstop, JUST TURN FROM YOUR WICKED WAYS AND I WILL HEAL YOUR LAND! YET NOT ONE "IM SORRY DEAR LORD, FORGIVE OUR LEADERS AND OURSELVES THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO!" NOPE JUST SIT CALLING OTHERS COWARDS, HATING ON ISREAL, OR HATING RUSSIA. BEHIND THE SCENES SATAN AND "ALL" WORLD LEADERS LAUGH AT "christians" for sitting idling waiting on others to cry out to forgive our land. Folks Gods word is not hard he asks us to cry out forgiveness and heal our land, yet WE SIT AND WATCH AS THE FLAMES WICK HIGHER AND HIGHER. WE ARE AT OUR NINEVAH MOMENT "IF" WE DONT TURN FROM OUR EVIL WAYS, WE WONT SEE SPRING, BUT HEY BLAME IT ON ISREAL OR BIDEN, AND TRUMP BUT DONT YOU "EVER" TAKE THE BLAME FOR ALLOWING SATANS MINIONS TO LIQUIFY SACCRIFICED BABIES AND PUT THEM IN EVERYTHING FROM MTDEW TO MNRAGOD CHANGING VACCINES THEY PUSH OTHERS OUT OF THEIR WAY TO GET THEIR DOSE. GOD FORGIVE THIS COUNTRY AND "GOD FORGIVE ME FROM SITTING IDLY AS SAME SEX COUPLES KISS IN THE FRONT PEWS OF OUR "CHURCHES" PARENTS OF GOD TAKING THEIR LITTLE PRINCESS IN TO CHOP OUT THE INOCENT BABY SHE HELPED MAKE, SHE WOULD RUIN HER FUTURE! GOD IM SO SORRY , HEAL THIS LAND
+2 # whaddya mean...Dudimus Maximus 2022-01-13 21:01
Quoting Srmay72:
No matter how bad God allows life to be, he cries out to us nonstop, JUST TURN FROM YOUR WICKED WAYS AND I WILL HEAL YOUR LAND! YET NOT ONE "IM SORRY DEAR LORD, FORGIVE OUR LEADERS AND OURSELVES THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO!" NOPE JUST SIT CALLING OTHERS COWARDS, HATING ON ISREAL, OR HATING RUSSIA. BEHIND THE SCENES SATAN AND "ALL" WORLD LEADERS LAUGH AT "christians" for sitting idling waiting on others to cry out to forgive our land. Folks Gods word is not hard he asks us to cry out forgiveness and heal our land, yet WE SIT AND WATCH AS THE FLAMES WICK HIGHER AND HIGHER. WE ARE AT OUR NINEVAH MOMENT "IF" WE DONT TURN FROM OUR EVIL WAYS, WE WONT SEE SPRING, BUT HEY BLAME IT ON ISREAL OR BIDEN, AND TRUMP BUT DONT YOU "EVER" TAKE THE BLAME FOR ALLOWING SATANS MINIONS TO LIQUIFY SACCRIFICED BABIES AND PUT THEM IN EVERYTHING FROM MTDEW TO MNRAGOD CHANGING VACCINES THEY PUSH OTHERS OUT OF THEIR WAY TO GET THEIR DOSE. GOD FORGIVE THIS COUNTRY AND "GOD FORGIVE ME FROM SITTING IDLY AS SAME SEX COUPLES KISS IN THE FRONT PEWS OF OUR "CHURCHES" PARENTS OF GOD TAKING THEIR LITTLE PRINCESS IN TO CHOP OUT THE INOCENT BABY SHE HELPED MAKE, SHE WOULD RUIN HER FUTURE! GOD IM SO SORRY , HEAL THIS LAND
whaddya mean WE!?
-1 # All this bull feathers is irrelevantHaarnaś 2022-01-13 18:40
to the subject matter. Get some Prozac or whatever to think logically and on-topic!
+1 # Fountain workjdr197121 2022-01-13 18:08
Read this was work on the fountain that sits on the lawn.
# RE: Fountain workKevin 2022-01-13 22:21
Quoting jdr197121:
Read this was work on the fountain that sits on the lawn.


So was this a part of the infrastructure bill?
+4 # RE: UPDATED 12:21 PM EST -- Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceRobert A 2022-01-13 18:00
With so much happening no updates since 1221 either Hal is across state lines or he is preparing for something ominous on the 2100hrs show.
# RE: UPDATED 12:21 PM EST -- Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceWoulf 2022-01-14 00:07
You do know people have to sleep sometime don't you. Not to mention those "chow" and "other" breaks. If you see him running, try to keep up.
+3 # Jean Claude Van Damme CYBORGdaniel_martin 2022-01-13 17:56
is coming to a city very close to you
+5 # RE: UPDATED 12:21 PM EST -- Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceJMrd777 2022-01-13 17:51
Long but excellent article pertaining to Russia,Nata,China etc. A couple of snippets...


A Warning From Russia to America — WW3 Red Warning: Putin Surrounded USA NATO Military Drills on Ukraine Border

Each time Russia had been invaded, she emerged victorious. In 1812 Napoleon invaded Russia; in 1814 Russian cavalry rode into Paris. On June 22, 1941, Hitler’s Luftwaffe bombed Kiev; On May 8, 1945, Soviet troops rolled into Berlin. But times have changed since then. If Hitler were to attack Russia today, he would be dead 20 to 30 minutes later, his bunker reduced to glowing rubble by a strike from a Kalibr supersonic cruise missile launched from a small Russian navy ship somewhere in the Baltic Sea. The operational abilities of the new Russian military have been most persuasively demonstrated during the recent action against ISIS, Al Nusra and other foreign-funded terrorist groups operating in Syria.

A long time ago Russia had to respond to provocations by fighting land battles on her own territory, then launching a counter-invasion; but this is no longer necessary. Russia’s new weapons make retaliation instant, undetectable, unstoppable and perfectly lethal. Thus, if tomorrow a war were to break out between the US and Russia, it is guaranteed that the US would be obliterated. At a minimum, there would no longer be an electric grid, no internet, no oil and gas pipelines, no interstate highway system, no air transportation or GPS-based navigation. Financial centers would lie in ruins. Government at every level would cease to function. US armed forces stationed all around the globe would no longer be resupplied. At a maximum, the entire landmass of the US would be covered by a layer of radioactive ash.

We tell you this not to be alarmist but because, based on everything we know, we are ourselves alarmed. If attacked, Russia will not back down; she will retaliate, and she will utterly annihilate the United States. The US leadership has done everything it could to push the situation to the brink of disaster.

Russia’s armed forces, both conventional and nuclear, are now ready to fight, and they are more than a match for the US and NATO, especially if a war erupts anywhere near the Russian border but such a fight would be suicidal for all sides.

We strongly believe that a conventional war in Europe runs a strong chance of turning nuclear very rapidly, and that any US/NATO nuclear strike on Russian forces or territory will automatically trigger a retaliatory Russian nuclear strike on the continental US. Contrary to irresponsible statements made by some American propagandists, American anti-ballistic missile systems are incapable of shielding the American people from a Russian nuclear strike. Russia has the means to strike at targets in the USA with long-range nuclear as well as conventional weapons.

Link...

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=190952

https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2022/01/breaking-a-warning-from-russia-to-america-ww3-red-warning-putin-surrounded-usa-nato-military-drills-on-ukraine-border-3765223.html
+2 # Apologies on Marxism.carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-13 17:44
I have to admit that whenever I heard of Marxism on this forum - I thought "Would you ever forget about the Cold War - it is over, get over it ! ".
Just watched an hour interview with Martin Armstrong.
https://21stcenturywire.com/2022/01/13/martin-armstrong-why-schwabs-great-reset-may-end-in-tears/
I watched it and agreed with everything. Past and future analysis. Apart from Trump.
Having admitted my stupidity, I will still suggest you start watching - I do not think you will stop.
# Apologies on MarxismCrackers suck PERMA BANNED 2022-01-14 10:24
FANTASTIC video! Thank you for sharing!
# RE: Apologies on Marxism.Woulf 2022-01-14 00:49
WAR never changes and sometimes never "ENDS". The names change, the terrain changes but the "mind set" never will. Kenites! The "marching orders" may come from top, but it is the "grunts" that carry them out. What happens if they don't?
+1 # RE: UPDATED 12:21 PM EST -- Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceJMrd777 2022-01-13 17:22
Andrea Mitchell
@mitchellreports
On Ukraine trip, @ChrisMurphyCT: "We have significant intel that tells us this invasion is perhaps imminent. That has not always been shared, our view of the seriousness of this invasion, by some of our partners in/around Europe. So we want to bring that intel to Pres. Zelensky
# RE: UPDATED 12:21 PM EST -- Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceJMrd777 2022-01-13 17:20
Chris Murphy: Intel Russian invasion is perhaps imminent //UPDATE:US WILL SHARE IN NEXT 24H WHAT RUSSIA IS DOING AS PRETEXT TO INVADE
Chris Murphy (U.S. Senator Connecticut) says they have intel Russian invasion of Ukraine is perhaps imminent

https://mobile.twitter.com/ExploreFormula/status/1481709956386672660/photo/1
+4 # Kazakhstan post-mortem. Putin: After Kazakhstan, the Color Revolution Era Is OverHaarnaś 2022-01-13 17:02
Virtually no one knows about it. But last December, another coup was discreetly thwarted in the Kyrgyz capital, Bishkek. Kyrgyz intel sources attribute the engineering to a rash of NGOs linked with Britain and Turkey. That introduces an absolutely key facet of The Big Picture: NATO-linked intel and their assets may have been preparing a simultaneous color revolution offensive across Central Asia.

When President Tokayev was referring, in code, to a “single center,” he meant a so far ‘secret’ US-Turk-Israeli military-intel operations room based in the southern business hub of Almaty, according to a highly placed Central Asia intel source. In this “center,” there were 22 Americans, 16 Turks and 6 Israelis coordinating sabotage gangs – trained in West Asia by the Turks – and then rat-lined to Almaty.

https://www.unz.com/pescobar/after-kazakhstan-the-color-revolution-era-is-over/
-4 # What do you think Mr TurnerSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-01-13 16:46
I was wondering you didn't give your analysis of the situation are you in the middle of making a run for the beehive in Pennsylvania I was wondering are you making a run for it or are you staying if war breaks out you probably got a couple days before things heat up and Russia starts losing I would assume but your a professional is there going to be a war is he going into Ukraine do you think or do you think he will go further do you think you go all the way to East Germany I personally think once he gets rolling he'll go all the way to East Germany and I don't think that they will hit our cities with news I think they're gentleman I think they will get our ship docks was a billed ships so stop us from being able to make new carriers but I like to see and hear what you think it is I haven't seen no headlines in a while hours from you and want a war zone is happening it's a very very long time don't have a heart attack don't get sick don't overdo it by making a run for it I personally believe smaller rural places would be hit with nukes as military targets nearby not large cities I agree with that philosophy that I read before that the Russians are gentlemen
+1 # RE: What do you think Mr TurnerKevin 2022-01-13 22:19
@Sammy b3368

Hal reports the news, he does not make the news.

You may have heard the expression; "The revolution will not be televised." Well, WW3 won't be either.

Chill out dude. This isn't CNN where they just make shit up.
# RE: What do you think Mr TurnerKevin 2022-01-13 22:19
@Sammy b3368

Hal reports the news, he does not make the news.

You may have heard the expression; "The revolution will not be televised." Well, WW3 won't be either.

Chill out dude. This isn't CNN where they just make shit up.
+14 # Kicked God Out - Evil Walks In!StormClouds 2022-01-13 16:21
If America enters a conflict, we will be toast! Why? Our national leaders have kicked Almighty God out of their midst for TOO long now. Read Read Deut 28 - the last half of the chapter. We are there now!
# RE: Kicked God Out - Evil Walks In!Woulf 2022-01-13 22:57
When they established the church of "Satan" and gave it a tax-exempt status, I shook my head. When they passed Roe vs. Wade, I shook my head. Sadly, I think you are right about where we are at. It brings more meaning to the other passage.
John 11:35 Jesus wept.
I think I see why.
+4 # Just keep pushingGregg W 2022-01-13 16:14
There is NO doubt. NATO and the US must get a huge bonus from the devil if they get this war started soon!

So ridiculous. Lots of people are going to die. Who knows how long until it kicks off. No question the powers that pee (themselves) are determined to make this happen.

Only if God himself doesn’t let it, will it be stopped.
+6 # let it happen?Dudimus Maximus 2022-01-13 16:43
Quoting Gregg W:
There is NO doubt. NATO and the US must get a huge bonus from the devil if they get this war started soon!

So ridiculous. Lots of people are going to die. Who knows how long until it kicks off. No question the powers that pee (themselves) are determined to make this happen.

Only if God himself doesn’t let it, will it be stopped???

How do we know He isnt bringing it to pass??
# Hal, the same non-sense in the South China Sea.Rod Stirling 2022-01-13 16:14
https://ph.news.yahoo.com/us-piles-south-china-sea-025241578.html

What we are witnessing in Washington is the equivalent of a few infants in a play pen banging their baby rattles against the pen's frame all the while screaming their heads off because nobody is paying attention to them.

For those who were paying attention with the coup d'etat attempt in Kazakhstan, they will have noticed the stunning and complete failure of the West's Intel op's to have any idea of what Russia's response would be to this attempted coup, and therefore, any alternates/plan B's in place to deal with any Russian response.

As such, any intel being proffered by the west about Rusia and any of her ops within her borders, I view as bunk.

Its going to be at least a generation to rebuild these Intel services, if that is possible.

Andrei has a short note on going forward.......

https://thesaker.is/https-smoothiex12-blogspot-com-2022-01-3m22-zircon-is-officially-accepted-for-html/
+3 # RE: UPDATED 12:21 PM EST -- Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceRobert A 2022-01-13 15:37
Exercise "Cold Response" starts in March and goes into April.
If Russia is going to do something it will be before these NATO forces are in places. It may be an annual exercise but its a snap of the fingers for this battle group with 2 carrier groups to go live. Why if you were Russia give the enemy the opportunity to move this hardware in with WAR looming.
Secondly as this exercise goes into April Russia would be entering the mud season thus killing armor and ground troop movement.
It would be fair to possibly agree with that former European NATO Commander. If Russia's going to attack its going to be by the end of January.
# Old daysWoulf 2022-01-13 23:49
The KGB had some really good teams and the FSB incorporated them. Those "little green men" would not even be seen but would take care of a problem or three in short order. There would be no real invasion but "problem" resolution. Hal reported there was "ammo dump" explosion, sound familiar.
+18 # This shit gets weirder by the hour!plumberdeluxe 2022-01-13 15:23
If this whole thing doesn't make you puke, then your half dead already.
We have the biggest pile of retards running the world governments and it really shows.
Someone smack the piss outta these dumbfucks and get this thing back inline before the worlds on fire! Hal THANKS FOR THE WORK YOU DO CRICKETS EVERYWHERE ELSE!!!!
+6 # RE: This shit gets weirder by the hour!arewethereyet 2022-01-13 16:29
Quoting plumberdeluxe:
If this whole thing doesn't make you puke, then your half dead already.
We have the biggest pile of retards running the world governments and it really shows.
Someone smack the piss outta these dumbfucks and get this thing back inline before the worlds on fire! Hal THANKS FOR THE WORK YOU DO CRICKETS EVERYWHERE ELSE!!!!

100% correct!
+5 # RE: This shit gets weirder by the hour!Sawyerb56 2022-01-13 15:57
Quoting plumberdeluxe:
If this whole thing doesn't make you puke, then your half dead already.
We have the biggest pile of retards running the world governments and it really shows.
Someone smack the piss outta these dumbfucks and get this thing back inline before the worlds on fire! Hal THANKS FOR THE WORK YOU DO CRICKETS EVERYWHERE ELSE!!!!

You said it!!
+2 # Go BrandenSawyerb56 2022-01-13 15:55
This is bullshit.
+1 # It's OK to oppress certain peoples others. How ridiculous.White Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-13 15:18
The other mandate required vaccination for an estimated 10.3 million workers at about 76,000 healthcare facilities including hospitals and nursing homes that accept money from the Medicare and Medicaid government health insurance programs for elderly, disabled and low-income Americans.

The justices lifted orders by federal judges in Missouri and Louisiana blocking the policy in 24 states, allowing the administration to enforce it nearly nationwide. Enforcement was blocked in Texas by a lower court in separate litigation not at issue in the case before the Supreme Court.

Workers must be vaccinated by the end of February under the mandate.
+3 # RE: UPDATED 12:21 PM EST -- Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceRobert A 2022-01-13 15:18
Curious to know the Russia SIGINT ship ghosting Hawaii. Would Hal know in egregious times like these if in his estimation it has a submerged shadow for protection.
+2 # I’m sure it does.Gregg W 2022-01-13 16:16
That’s what I would do if I were them.
+1 # U.S. Supreme Court blocks Biden vaccine-or-test policy for large businessesWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-13 15:13
The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday blocked President Joe Biden's pandemic-related vaccination-or-testing mandate for large businesses at a time of escalating COVID-19 infections while allowing his administration to enforce its separate vaccine requirement for healthcare facilities.
https://www.investing.com/news/politics/us-supreme-court-blocks-biden-vaccineortest-policy-for-large-businesses-2738482
+2 # The forces of evil have begun their decisive offensiveWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-13 15:02
Leader of Oath Keepers militia charged with seditious conspiracy in U.S. Capitol riot.

https://www.investing.com/news/general/fbi-arrests-farright-militia-group-oath-keepers-leader-in-jan-6-probe-nyt-2738434
+3 # RE: UPDATED 12:21 PM EST -- Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceJMrd777 2022-01-13 14:55
Waiting on link and translate ,

Der Spiegel Head-news: NATO-Insider Fears Immediate Russian Attack On Several Fronts

https://m.imgur.com/a/ReAwIkR

Its behind a paywall that's why waiting for another link
+3 # RE: UPDATED 12:21 PM EST -- Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceJMrd777 2022-01-13 14:49
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U.S. vows ‘decisive’ response if Russia pursues threatened deployments to Cuba, Venezuela


The Biden administration responded Thursday to threats from Russian officials that Moscow could begin military deployments in Cuba and Venezuela if tensions continue to rise with the United States, vowing a “decisive” response if it sees any evidence that the threat is real.

Russia’s deputy foreign minister, Sergei Ryabkov, told state television Thursday that he could “neither confirm nor exclude” the potential deployments. Russian media followed up on the remarks with a report that agents from Russia’s spy agency, the FSB, had visited the two Western Hemisphere countries in recent days. “We are not going to respond to bluster,” a senior administration official told McClatchy and the Miami Herald. “If Russia actually started moving in that direction, we would deal with it decisively.” Tensions have been rising between Washington and Moscow since December, when Russia began amassing tens of thousands of troops on its border with Ukraine.

Russian officials, including President Vladimir Putin, have not ruled out an invasion. Talks have taken place between Russian, American, European and NATO officials over the past three days across Europe, but officials have not reported any breakthroughs.

Some Cuban exiles have been closely watching the Biden administration’s standoff with Russia and China, with the hopes a new geopolitical realignment would entice the Biden administration to claim Cuba in the U.S. circle of influence and more actively seek regime change on the island. Ryabkov’s comments could add to the speculation that the Caribbean island could again become entangled in a replay of the Cuban missile crisis.

The governments of Cuba and Venezuela have not publicly responded to the comments. The Cuban embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment. As tensions grew between Havana and Washington during the Trump administration, Russia has become closer to the communist island, approving loans and increasing military cooperation. It also increased its economic involvement in the oil sector in Venezuela, helping the country skirt U.S. sanctions. According to U.S. officials at the time, Russia also played a role in convincing Venezuela’s Nicolás Maduro to stay in power when the opposition attempted to flip top military leaders in 2019.

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+12 # Bible ProphesyBeenThere 2022-01-13 14:46
According to prophesy, Russia plays an important role in end times. Given that Gods word rules, the U.S. and China will become inconsequential in some form and fashion. For Born Again Christians, keep in mind that Earth is not our real home - Heaven IS our Home!
# Done that and then someWoulf 2022-01-14 01:13
GOD is also our "protector" and "guide". HE said that HE would "never" forsake you or leave you. Even if the country falls, do you think HE will ever turn his back on his own.
+5 # If Men and Woman Don't Stand Up Now ,We are going to suffer the consaquencesMax S Stofle 2022-01-13 14:17
Revelation 18:2 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Because we let these Demon Possesed Idiots Hitlery ,Obuma Rice ,Sorro's Into our Goverment ,They Have Sold us Out These Hores Of Satan ,We are a Laughing stock Militarily ,After Russia attacks China will Come and take the Pacific Africa ,They won't want America Because it will Be ash Radaited Lands ,God Help Us ,Thanks Hal ,God Bless ,Peace Max
+12 # The Fact ispaulattahoe 2022-01-13 14:03
that the USA initiated more than 80% of all wars in the last seventy years does NOT require an explanation and is more evidence of deep state tyranny behind a stolen election. This one is no different.

Let's face it, the goal of the deep state is world domination through the New World Order. The more we pay attention, the more obvious it is. The chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia. Eurasia accounts for 60% of the world’s GDP and about 3/4ths of the world’s known energy resources.

In my opinion, Russia is a worthy adversary. I would love to see Russia break the Obama deep state.
+2 # TAKE NOTE ..... THE EVIL EMPIRE HAS PLANS TO START A WAR.NHydg 2022-01-13 13:25
IT IS in the plans for the EE to start a WWlll .... The BASTARDS of Lucifer have planned to start a World War. It IS in prophecies and the timing is just about on their time line.
+7 # WWIIIVercinge 2022-01-13 13:16
When children are touched, God becomes furious and gives satan a green light to punish humanity.

One more reason that explains why we are on the brink of World War III.

After-School Satan Club’ planned at Illinois elementary school. District explains why

https://www.bnd.com/news/nation-world/national/article257283327.html
+1 # JehovahBushDid911 2022-01-13 15:26
God doesn't use Satan to punish us .
That's a rediculas premise and a complete miss reading of the Bible
+1 # RE: JehovahWoulf 2022-01-14 01:27
GOD created all and can "end" all. He used Nebuchadnezzar to give us a good "paddling" before, HE can do it again. He will use whom HE wants, when HE wants. Think HE won't? Wait, watch and listen.
-1 # WWIIIVercinge 2022-01-13 17:42
For a formidable knowledge of Jesus Christ, on which the eternal salvation of every man depends, God has given to humanity, in anticipation of what is happening and what will happen: "The Gospel as it was revealed to me" https: // scriptivaltorta.altervista.org/per_volume.htm
After reading it a thousand times (hyperbolic figure, because it would take a thousand years to do so), you would discover that you have not yet exhausted your knowledge, because God is infinite and eternity will not be enough to discover and understand His first and main attribute, from which all the others derive: Charity.

THE GOSPEL AS REVEALED TO ME
https://archive.org/details/MariaValtortaTHEGOSPELASREVEALEDTOMEVol.7/Maria%20Valtorta%20THE%20GOSPEL%20AS%20REVEALED%20TO%20ME%20vol.%209
http://www.bardstown.com/~brchrys/

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me". - John 14,6

“Now this is eternal life: that they know you,  the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” - John 17,3.

NOTA BENE: It goes without saying that to loose the eternal life means to fall in eternal death, that is to say, in Hell, where the soul continues to live (because it is immortal), with an intensity and lucidity never experimented in earthly life (due to strong body conditioning), and in a terrifyng despair to have lost God FOREVER and in an EVERLASTING foul-smelling rottenness.
# Reallysupporttheblue 2022-01-13 14:51
Please quote the verse.
-2 # WWIIIVercinge 2022-01-13 17:43
For a formidable knowledge of Jesus Christ, on which the eternal salvation of every man depends, God has given to humanity, in anticipation of what is happening and what will happen: "The Gospel as it was revealed to me" https: // scriptivaltorta.altervista.org/per_volume.htm
After reading it a thousand times (hyperbolic figure, because it would take a thousand years to do so), you would discover that you have not yet exhausted your knowledge, because God is infinite and eternity will not be enough to discover and understand His first and main attribute, from which all the others derive: Charity.

THE GOSPEL AS REVEALED TO ME
https://archive.org/details/MariaValtortaTHEGOSPELASREVEALEDTOMEVol.7/Maria%20Valtorta%20THE%20GOSPEL%20AS%20REVEALED%20TO%20ME%20vol.%209
http://www.bardstown.com/~brchrys/

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me". - John 14,6

“Now this is eternal life: that they know you,  the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” - John 17,3.

NOTA BENE: It goes without saying that to loose the eternal life means to fall in eternal death, that is to say, in Hell, where the soul continues to live (because it is immortal), with an intensity and lucidity never experimented in earthly life (due to strong body conditioning), and in a terrifyng despair to have lost God FOREVER and in an EVERLASTING foul-smelling rottenness.
+1 # RE: ReallySteve 196th Inf 2022-01-13 15:52
It's not the first time Vercinge has made a statement that he won't back up with scripture.
-2 # RE: ReallyVercinge 2022-01-13 17:44
For a formidable knowledge of Jesus Christ, on which the eternal salvation of every man depends, God has given to humanity, in anticipation of what is happening and what will happen: "The Gospel as it was revealed to me" https: // scriptivaltorta.altervista.org/per_volume.htm
After reading it a thousand times (hyperbolic figure, because it would take a thousand years to do so), you would discover that you have not yet exhausted your knowledge, because God is infinite and eternity will not be enough to discover and understand His first and main attribute, from which all the others derive: Charity.

THE GOSPEL AS REVEALED TO ME
https://archive.org/details/MariaValtortaTHEGOSPELASREVEALEDTOMEVol.7/Maria%20Valtorta%20THE%20GOSPEL%20AS%20REVEALED%20TO%20ME%20vol.%209
http://www.bardstown.com/~brchrys/

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me". - John 14,6

“Now this is eternal life: that they know you,  the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” - John 17,3.

NOTA BENE: It goes without saying that to loose the eternal life means to fall in eternal death, that is to say, in Hell, where the soul continues to live (because it is immortal), with an intensity and lucidity never experimented in earthly life (due to strong body conditioning), and in a terrifyng despair to have lost God FOREVER and in an EVERLASTING foul-smelling rottenness.
-1 # Asymmetric warfare first, then the bombs start fallingMVR_CNY 2022-01-13 12:49
The first US salvos won’t be nukes or even JDAMS but rather massive cyberattacks, directed energy weapons (DEW), and other asymmetric tactics to reduce Russsian capabilities to overwhelm our defenses.
Hopefully it never comes to this but if it does become kinetic, it was nice knowing y’all.
+2 # you got it!Dudimus Maximus 2022-01-13 16:48
Quoting Mvanryn:
The first US salvos won’t be nukes or even JDAMS but rather massive cyberattacks, directed energy weapons (DEW), and other asymmetric tactics to reduce Russsian capabilities to overwhelm our defenses.
Hopefully it never comes to this but if it does become kinetic, it was nice knowing y’all.
you got it!, BACKWARDS
+2 # RE: Asymmetric warfare first, then the bombs start fallingRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-01-13 14:58
Some teenage hackers shut down the main US pipeline last year.

Can't imagine what a concerted military effort would do.
# RE: Asymmetric warfare first, then the bombs start fallingWoulf 2022-01-14 01:46
When you consider those pipelines use to run without an IT department. That software can be loaded onto a laptop and deployed. That it is hard to "hack" something that is not "connected" to the internet. The only thing I can see that is lacking is the "will".
+1 # What Pure Bloods Can Expect At The 'COVID Camps'White Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-13 12:42
These Pictures Show America's Future If The Globalists Get Their Way: This Is What Pure Bloods Can Expect At The 'COVID Camps'

https://allnewspipeline.com/These_Pictures_Show_Americas_Future.php
# CampsWoulf 2022-01-14 02:06
What they forget is there are people who have taken more "lives" with a toolbox and a stolen uniform than with any weapon known to man.
-5 # Finally Some Action. DON'T BlinkPaul Kurzlee 2022-01-13 12:39
Finally. Now I am hoping Putin will get the party started ASAP. It is long, long over due. It is going to be funny to watch jens and the rest of his pervert army get destroyed. Putin should attack ALL nato hell holes in one go, one one day all at the same time. Like the Russians are, I am tired of all this shit too. Better to just start firing at nato and hope for the best. If Putin did it right he could just over whelm them by mass attack on 30 fronts at once. Attack every nato hell hole at once. Use conventional war heads of large calibre and hit all the scum at once. Thats what I would do. First shoot down yankee satalites. Then unleash massive bombs on them ALL AT ONCE. They could not retaliate if they all got hit at the same time. And IF they did it would be minimal. GO RUSSIA GO. Please get this going SOON. AND NO CEASEFIRES this time round.
+1 # You've Forgotten Blinken.Doug Brown 2022-01-13 12:21
Blinken says Russia has two choices.
Blinken says there is no other alternative. Blinken says Russia has no choice.
Blinken has laid down the law:
Blinken says,
Submit or there will be horrifying sanctions.
The threat of NATO and American sanctions has the bravest Russian shaking with fear.
# RE: You've Forgotten Blinken.Woulf 2022-01-14 02:13
And when the "bar" fight stared where was "Blinken". Under the pool table, behind the bar or on his "knees"? Just asking.
+4 # Tongue in cheek, Doug Brown,La Patriotta 2022-01-13 15:35
o doubt. Wry humor.

We have become the Shih Tzu threatening the St. Bernard.
+10 # Russian ResponeBeenThere 2022-01-13 14:51
The official Russian reply to the USA's threat of sanctions was as follow's - "The threat of sanctions from an economic and socially bankrupt country does not frighten us" - PRICELESS........
+3 # In my opinionpaulattahoe 2022-01-13 14:26
Blinken is another war-monger puppet installed by the deep state and profoundly ignorant. His quotes are the MSM's favorite and that's all we need to know.
+5 # RE: You've Forgotten Blinken.Haywardus 2022-01-13 14:19
It reminds me of Monty Python Holy Grail where the French launch farm animals over the wall with their catapult.
# RE: You've Forgotten Blinken.Paul Kurzlee 2022-01-13 14:14
Quoting Doug Brown:
Blinken says Russia has two choices.
Blinken says there is no other alternative. Blinken says Russia has no choice.
Blinken has laid down the law:
Blinken says,
Submit or there will be horrifying sanctions.
The threat of NATO and American sanctions has the bravest Russian shaking with fear.

Yep LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
+6 # RE: Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking Placebleedingblue 2022-01-13 12:04
west wants ware to blame economic collapse on the war and a good reason to eliminate a great deal of the population. Not to mention military crackdown of martial law and rounding up conservative citizens into death camps.
Our military will be severely weakened and China will be primed to take over both countries and Europe.
+3 # how will the military round up citizensBooskybobcat 2022-01-13 12:59
when it is fighting a war? Seems unlikely.
+2 # RE: how will the military round up citizensPaul Kurzlee 2022-01-13 14:17
Quoting Booskybobcat:
when it is fighting a war? Seems unlikely.

The smart citizens hopefully will team up with the Russians if that is allowed. I will volunteer for their side. We could do much to help them overthrow brandon. I will do whatever I can to help.
+4 # RE: Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlacePaul Kurzlee 2022-01-13 12:42
Quoting bleedingblue:
west wants ware to blame economic collapse on the war and a good reason to eliminate a great deal of the population. Not to mention military crackdown of martial law and rounding up conservative citizens into death camps.
Our military will be severely weakened and China will be primed to take over both countries and Europe.

Hopefully Putin can kill at least some of the leadership here and nato then they cant do it in that scenario.
+13 # androgue_ 2022-01-13 12:10
When people start dropping dead in mass from the vaccine, they can blame radiation poisoning.
+15 # Nuclear War Survival Skills book in free PDF form.jdpsys 2022-01-13 12:01
It’s lost in my archives, but I finally found the Nuclear War Survival Skills book in free PDF form.
Published by Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, it is very thorough and shows you that
(unless you’re in the blast zone) you and your family can survive.

http://www.oism.org/nwss/
+8 # HellHuskerMike 2022-01-13 12:45
Survive? Yes. But life will be total hell looking for uncontaminated food and water and dealing with invading merciless Chinese and Russian troops and their allies, raping and pillaging. Alive? Yes, for awhile…..
# RE: HellWoulf 2022-01-14 03:10
And taking "watches and wallets" with every "ambush". GOD said that 1 of you could make 10 run away in fright, or that 10 could make a 100 run away in fright. Did think HE was "kidding".
+5 # Hunter's SidearmGloucesterAD97 2022-01-13 11:59
Will Hunter be going to the front to defend his "investments" in the Ukraine? The USSS has is pistol. Give that man an AK and he's good to go.

On a more serious note, about how the regime and military have been treating Trump supporters for the past year; do they really think the 100 million people who voted for MAGA will support the war?

Even without nukes, the US Army, Navy, AF stand a pretty good chance of getting the shit kicked out of them. They're going to eat some humble pie and like it! There are a lot of folks out there now who will have no sympathy for General Milly since he was part of the coup in the first place.

It's a sorry place to be in. It's just the way it is now.

People might get upset at this observation, but like the lady said, "God is not cruel, just practical".
-2 # Why?Crackers suck PERMA BANNED 2022-01-13 12:23
Why….just why? Nukes fly it won’t matter what turds supports pedo Trump or three year old hair sniffing Biden.
+1 # Why?GloucesterAD97 2022-01-13 13:07
This is about Trumps supporters not willing to support the US in a war, not Trump per se. He's a kingmaker now anyway. Joe's just a tool.
+5 # Good morning Hal TurnerWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-13 11:59
Thank you for sharing these important developments with us. Hope you have a great day!
# RE: Good morning Hal TurnerWoulf 2022-01-14 03:31
Always Rember "Deep roots are not touched by the frost". Semper Fidelis The older we get the more we come back to the core.
+8 # The Devil runs America.White Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-13 11:50
He is in control of every one of the power sources in this nation. No man can serve two masters. You either serve God or Satan. Much of Christianity is a fraud, a faithless factory that produces satanic zombies. The Church long ago stopped being the purveyor of TRUTH. The Church cannot even recognize lies because the Church no longer loves the Truth. Most pulpits are filled with Government-bribed agents who are leading the lambs to the slaughter. The American press is the new Soviet Union Pravda spouting out nothing but propaganda and creating this cancel culture to silence all opposition. They are engaging in psychological warfare which is orchestrated by the Cabal that controls the Planet.
+3 # Reply to RaptorDolph 2022-01-13 15:03
There's a big difference between Christendom and the true Church/the Body of Christ. America is the Babylon of Revelation C.18. The Bible says, whole world (including America) is corrupt, deceived, Satan is the prince of this world and man has a fallen nature. Repent of all your sins and make Jesus Lord and Savior of your life NOW.
# RE: Reply to RaptorWoulf 2022-01-14 03:50
1 Chronicles 22:13
Then shalt thou prosper, if thou takest heed to fulfil the statutes and judgments which the Lord charged Moses with concerning Israel: be strong, and of good courage; dread not, nor be dismayed.
+1 # Land of the Free Home of the BraveWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-13 11:48
We need 100,000,000 Brave Souls Ready to Stand Against Satans Rule on Earth.
https://rumble.com/vnfz7v-u.s.-soldiers-speak-out-america-is-under-attack-prepare-yourself-now.html
U.S. Soldiers Speak Out: "America Is Under Attack, Prepare Yourself Now
# RE: Land of the Free Home of the BraveWoulf 2022-01-14 04:11
Did we become a "Nation" buy kneeling and asking for permission?
XURIOUS & BRAHMIN - THE DAY OF THE LION 2:14sec https://www.bitchute.com/video/tMdnQ9MQDAKV/
You tell me. -=RONIN=-
+13 # BEARBEAR 2022-01-13 11:44
Look at that map...Russia is moving assets as defensive positioning. It "appears" that they are worried that they are about to be attacked by the NWO. I can hear the MSM going on about how aggressive these move are. Question: When did defense become offensive? Answer when you act contrary to the NMO directive.
+2 # Railwayscarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-13 12:23
I just looked at a map - the main east-west railways are down south in Russia.
+3 # Kicking in the front door of Russia's house.White Lightning aka Raptor 2022-01-13 11:43
Billy pack up your gear. We need you at the front doing satanic murder sacrifices based on lies from Satanists. You can be Illuminati cannon fodder. One of Lucifer's useful idiots! You are one of a legion! The devils are very numerous, a legion of them in one man. Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they go in and dwell there; and the final plight of that man is worse than the first. So will it be with this wicked generation.
+22 # Never underestimate your opponent.HT32021 2022-01-13 11:41
Putin: "Fifty years ago, the streets of Leningrad taught me one rule: if a fight is inevitable you have to strike first."

Vlad is no pussy-hat wearing woketard like Milley and Austin. He has not reduced fitness standards for his military so purple-haired, transgendered land whales can pass.

He means what he says. His red lines are reasonable and must be respected or there will be consequences.
+2 # Duck and covergrash 2022-01-13 11:37
I was in the 5th grade during
the Cuban missile crisis and I
remember being very afraid
and all the adults around me
being stressed. I have the book
“Nuclear War Survival Skills”,
but I wonder with The more sophisticated nuclear bombs is there any
newer information to be found?
I’m sure there must be but trying
To wade through it would take
hours and what can be trusted?
Can you share some trusted sites?
+1 # Google instructions for in home temporary shelterLa Patriotta 2022-01-13 16:42
https://www.survivopedia.com/nuclear-prepping-on-fast-forward-10-cheap-easy-things-to-do-now/

Daisy Luther at Organic Prepper may have some info.
# RE: Duck and coverAvanarts 2022-01-13 12:15
That book you have is considered the "bible" of survival by many people.

The more sophisticated bombs now are just packing the same, or a little more, punch into smaller packages. The reactions, whether fusion or fission, are the same.
# RE: Duck and covergrash 2022-01-14 01:33
Thank you. That was suppose to be a
thumbs up!
+1 # @grashbeattle55 2022-01-13 12:05
Nuclear War Survival by: Cresson H. Kearny
1987, but still pertinent.

Also, the Army CBRN Manual is easy to find and very spot on.

Below gives an accurate idea of Radius damage and Radiation

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
+6 # military exercisesBushDid911 2022-01-13 11:28
In all NATO military exercises gaming out the invasion of Europe by Russia / Soviet block .
It was ALWAYS NATO That went NUCULAR first !
( Tactical battlefield nuc's)
Yes Russia isn't crazy , but ask yourself what choices have we left them? They are far far better at sacrifice then any of us .
If we force them to roll the dice ,they definitely will .
+8 # RE: Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceGunner 2022-01-13 11:15
Well, it sure seems like destiny to me now my friends. . . The world will burn. The NWO/Globalists filth wants ,no demands MASS Depopulation.
+2 # Makes no senseCrackers suck PERMA BANNED 2022-01-13 11:21
If nukes fly.... their will be no world for the global elite.
+3 # RE: Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceCmathewson1994 2022-01-13 11:09
So 3 days till Monday that can move lots of troops by then lots of equipment there from last year still too
+15 # RE: Russia Says Talks Have Failed, No Sense in Continuing at this time; Massive Movement of Military Hardware Now Taking PlaceLambs Servant 2022-01-13 11:06
Russia is finished playing games.
+4 # OngoingCrackers suck PERMA BANNED 2022-01-13 11:00
Talks... ongoing. Constant meetings and talks.... requests are continuously made and yet nothing is accomplished. So why continue having talks. A bunch of grown power hungry men in a pissing contest. It is getting old.
# and the other optiondaniel_martin 2022-01-13 11:15
is nuclear war. Your life in dark agesIF you survive. Im ok with talks
-3 # RE: and the other optionPaul Kurzlee 2022-01-13 12:31
Quoting Lambs Servant:
Russia is finished playing games.

Quoting daniel_martin:
is nuclear war. Your life in dark agesIF you survive. Im ok with talks

For how many more decades do you want the talks to go on? Putin needs to strike nato RIGHT NOW.
# DenialCrackers suck PERMA BANNED 2022-01-13 11:20
Maybe I am in denial.... Russia is smart. Nuclear war will impact their Citizens and economy. It is all a bunch of crap. No one will pull the trigger for nukes... if fact their are many who believe that no one on this globe has actual nukes. I do not see it happening.... not saying I want it... but do not see it.
+4 # RE: Denialcarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-01-13 12:13
The military mind has spent a lifetime calculating relative losses. A USA war game, that saw half the USA population destroyed was called a success - because the destruction of Russia was 80%. There was and will be no hesitation using nukes - mass killing is now normal. Just not in the USA yet.

 

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