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Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing Politics

Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing Politics

By Sergey Lavrov, Russian Foreign Minister – Jul 18, 2022

Today, the Russian Armed Forces, together with the self-defense units of the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics, are delivering on the objectives of the special military operation with great resolve to put an end to the outrageous discrimination and genocide of the Russian people and eliminate direct threats to the security of the Russian Federation that the United States and its satellites have been creating on Ukrainian territory for years. While losing on the battlefield, the Ukrainian regime and its Western patrons have descended to staging bloody incidents to demonize our country in the eyes of the international community. We have already seen Bucha, Mariupol, Kramatorsk, and Kremenchug. The Russian Defense Ministry has been regularly issuing warnings, with facts in hand, about upcoming staged incidents and fakes.

There is a distinctive pattern that betrays the provocations staged by the West and its henchmen. In fact, they started long before the Ukrainian events.

Take 1999 – the village of Račak in Serbia’s Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija. A group of OSCE inspectors arrived at the site where several dozen corpses dressed in civilian clothes were discovered. Without any investigation, the mission head declared the incident an act of genocide, even though making a conclusion of this kind was not part of the mandate issued to this international official. NATO immediately launched a military aggression against Yugoslavia, during which it intentionally destroyed a television centre, bridges, passenger trains and other civilian targets. Later, it was proved with conclusive evidence that the dead bodies were not civilians, but militants of the Kosovo Liberation Army, an illegal armed group, dressed in civilian clothes. But by that time the staged incident has already taken its toll, offering a pretext for the first illegal use of force against an OSCE member state since the signing of the Helsinki Final Act in 1975. It is telling that the statement that triggered the bombings came from William Walker, a US citizen who headed the OSCE’s Kosovo Verification Mission. Separating Kosovo from Serbia by force and setting up Camp Bondsteel, the largest US military base in the Balkans, were the main outcomes of the aggression.

In 2003, there was the infamous performance by US Secretary of State Colin Powell in the UN Security Council with a vial containing white powder of some sort, which he said contained anthrax spores, alleging that it was produced in Iraq. Once again, the fake worked: the Anglo-Saxons and those who followed their lead went on to bomb Iraq, which has been struggling to fully recover its statehood ever since. Moreover, it did not take long before the fake was exposed with everyone admitting that Iraq did not have any biological weapons or any other kinds of WMDs. Later, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who was one of the masterminds of the aggression, recognized that the whole affair was a fraud, saying that they “may have been wrong” or something like that. As for Colin Powell, he later tried to justify himself by claiming that he was misled by the underlying intelligence. Either way, this was yet another provocation that offered a pretext for delivering on the plan to destroy a sovereign nation.

There was also Libya in 2011. The drama had specifics of its own. The situation did not go as far as direct lies, like in Kosovo or Iraq, but NATO grossly distorted the UN Security Council resolution, which provided for a no-fly zone over Libya in order to “ground” Muammar Gaddafi’s air force. It did not fly to begin with. However, NATO started bombing the Libyan army units who were fighting terrorists. Muammar Gaddafi died a savage death, and nothing remains of the Libyan statehood. Efforts to put the country back together have yet to succeed, with a US representative once again in charge of the process, appointed by the UN Secretary General without any consultation with the UN Security Council. As part of this process, our Western colleagues have facilitated several intra-Libyan agreements on holding elections but none of them materialized. Illegal armed groups still reign supreme on Libyan territory, with most of them working closely with the West.

February 2014, Ukraine – the West, represented by the German, French, and Polish foreign ministers, de facto forced President Viktor Yanukovich into signing an agreement with the opposition to end the confrontation and promote a peaceful resolution of the intra-Ukrainian crisis by establishing a transitional national unity government and calling a snap election, to be held within a few months. This too turned out to be a fraud: the next morning, the opposition staged a coup guided as it was by anti-Russia, racist slogans. However, the Western guarantors did not even try to bring the opposition back to its senses. Furthermore, they switched immediately to encouraging the coup perpetrators in their policies against Russia and everything Russian, unleashing the war against their own people and bombing entire cities in the Donbass region just because people there refused to recognize the unconstitutional coup. For that, they labelled the people in Donbass terrorists, and once again the West was there to encourage them.

At this point, it is worth noting that, as it was soon revealed, the killing of protestors on the Maidan was also a staged incident, which the West blamed either on the Ukrainian security forces loyal to Viktor Yanukovich, or on the Russian special services. However, the radical members of the opposition were the ones who were behind this provocation, while working closely with the Western intelligence services. Once again, exposing these facts did not take long, but by that time they already did their job.

Efforts by Russia, Germany, and France paved the way to stopping the war between Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk in February 2015 with the signing of the Minsk Agreements. Berlin and Paris played a proactive role here as well, proudly calling themselves as the guarantor countries. However, during the seven long years that followed, they did absolutely nothing to force Kiev to launch a direct dialogue with Donbass representatives for agreeing on matters including the special status, amnesty, restoring economic ties, and holding elections, as required by the Minsk Agreements which were approved unanimously by the UN Security Council. The Western leaders remained silent when Kiev took steps which directly violated the Minsk Agreements under both Petr Poroshenko and Vladimir Zelensky. Moreover, the German and the French leaders kept saying that Kiev cannot enter direct dialogue with the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics, and blamed everything on Russia, although Russia is not mentioned in the Minsk agreements even once, while remaining basically the only country that kept pushing for the agreements to be implemented.

If anyone doubted that the Minsk Package was anything but yet another fake, Petr Poroshenko dispelled this myth by saying on June 17, 2022: “The Minsk Agreements did not mean anything to us, and we had no intention to carry them out… our goal was to remove the threat we faced… and win time in order to restore economic growth and rebuild the armed forces. We achieved this goal. Mission accomplished for the Minsk Agreements.” The people of Ukraine are still paying the price of this fake. For many years now, the West has been forcing them to accept an anti-Russian neo-Nazi regime. What a waste of energy for Olaf Scholz with his calls to force Russia to agree to an agreement guaranteeing Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty. There already had been an agreement to this effect, the Minsk Package, and Berlin with Paris were the ones who derailed it by shielding Kiev in its refusal to abide by the document. The fake has been exposed – finita la commedia.

By the way, Vladimir Zelensky has been a worthy successor to Petr Poroshenko. During a campaign rally in early 2019, he was ready to kneel before him for the sake of stopping the war.

In December 2019, Zelensky got a chance to carry out the Minsk Agreements following the Normandy format summit in Paris. In the outcome document adopted at the highest level, the Ukrainian President undertook to resolve matters related to the special status of Donbass. Of course, he did not do anything, while Berlin and Paris once again covered up for him. The document and all the publicity accompanying its adoption turned out to be no more than a fake narrative promoted by Ukraine and the West to win some time for supplying more weapons to the Kiev regime, which follows Petr Poroshenko’s logic to the letter.

There was also Syria, with the 2013 agreement on eliminating Syria’s chemical weapons stockpiles in a stage-by-stage process verified by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), for which it received the Nobel Peace Prize. After that, however, there were outrageous provocations in 2017 and 2018 staging the use of chemical weapons in Khan Shaykhun and Duma, a Damascus suburb. There was a video showing people calling themselves the White Helmets (a would-be humanitarian organization which never showed up on territories controlled by the Syrian government) helping alleged poisoning victims, although no one had any protective clothing or gear. All attempts to force the OPCW Technical Secretariat to perform its duties in good faith and ensure a transparent investigation into these incidents, as required by the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), failed. This, however, did not come as a surprise. The Western countries have long privatized the Technical Secretariat by having their representatives appointed to the key positions within this structure. They contributed to staging these incidents and used them as a pretext for US, British, and French airstrikes against Syria. Incidentally, they carried out these bombings just a day before a group of OPCW inspectors arrived there to investigate the incidents at Russia’s insistence, while the West did everything to prevent this deployment.

The West and the OPCW Technical Secretariat it controls demonstrated their ability to stage fake incidents with the would-be poisonings of the Skripals and Alexey Navalny. In both cases, Russia sent multiple requests to The Hague, London, Berlin, Paris, and Stockholm, all left without a reply, even though they fully conformed with the CWC provisions and required a response.

Other pending questions have to do with the Pentagon’s covert activities in Ukraine carried out through its Defense Threat Reduction Agency. The traces that the forces engaged in the special military operation have discovered in military-biological laboratories in the liberated territories of Donbass and adjacent areas clearly indicate direct violations of the Convention on the Prohibition of Biological and Toxin Weapons (BTWC). We have presented the documents to Washington and to the UN Security Council. The procedure has been initiated under BTWC to demand explanations. Contrary to the facts, the US administration is trying to justify its actions by saying that all biological research in Ukraine was exclusively peaceful and civilian in nature – with no evidence of any of this.

In fact, the Pentagon’s military-biological activities around the world, especially in the post-Soviet countries, require the closest attention in light of the multiplying evidence of criminal experiments with the most dangerous pathogens in order to create biological weapons conducted under the guise of peaceful research.

I have already mentioned the staged “crimes” of the Donbass militia and participants in the Russian special military operation. There is one simple fact that clearly shows how much these accusations mean: having shown the “Bucha tragedy” to the world in early April 2022 (we have suspicions that the Anglo-Saxons had a hand in setting the stage for the show), the West and Kiev have not yet answered the very basic questions about whether the names of the dead were established and what post-mortem examinations showed. Just as in the above-described Skripals and Navalny cases, the propaganda production has premiered in the Western media, and now it’s time to sweep it all under the rug, brazen it out, because they have nothing to say.

This is the essence of the well-worn Western political algorithm – to concoct a fake story and ratchet up the hype as if it’s a universal catastrophe for a couple of days while blocking people’s access to alternative information or assessments, and when any facts do break through, they are simply ignored – at best mentioned on last pages of the news in small print. It is important to understand that this is not a harmless game in the media war – such productions are used as pretexts for very material actions such as punishing the “guilty” countries with sanctions, unleashing barbaric aggressions against them with hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties, as it happened, in particular, in Iraq and Libya. Or – as in the case of Ukraine – for using the country as expendable material in the Western proxy war against Russia. Moreover, NATO instructors and MLRS aimers are, apparently, already directing the actions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and nationalist battalions on the ground.

I hope there are responsible politicians in Europe who are aware of the consequences. In this regard, it is noteworthy that no one in NATO or the EU tried to reprimand the German Air Force Commander, a general named Ingo Gerhartz, who got carried away higher than his rank and said NATO must be ready to use nuclear weapons. “Putin, do not try to compete with us,” he added. Europe’s silence suggests that it is complacently oblivious of Germany’s role in its history.

If we look at today’s events through a historical prism, the entire Ukrainian crisis appears as a “grand chess game” that follows a scenario earlier promoted by Zbigniew Brzezinski. All the good relations talk, the West’s proclaimed readiness to take into account the rights and interests of Russians who ended up in independent Ukraine or other post-Soviet countries after the collapse of the USSR turned out to be mere pretense. Even in the early 2000s, Washington and the European Union began to openly pressure Kiev to decide which side Ukraine was on, the West or Russia.

Ever since 2014, the West has been controlling, hands-on, the Russophobic regime it brought to power through a coup d’état. Putting Vladimir Zelensky in front of any international forum of any significance is also part of this travesty. He makes passionate speeches, but when he suddenly offers something reasonable, he gets a slap on the wrist, as it happened after the Istanbul round of Russian-Ukrainian talks. At the end of March, it seemed that light glimmered at the end of the tunnel, but Kiev was forced to back off, using, among other things, a frankly staged episode in Bucha. Washington, London and Brussels demanded that Kiev stopped negotiating with Russia until Ukraine achieved full military advantage (former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson tried especially hard, and many other Western politicians did too, still incumbent, although they have already proved just as inept).

EU foreign policy chief Joseph Borrell’s statement about this war having to be “won on the battlefield” by Ukraine suggests that even diplomacy has lost its value as a tool in the European Union’s staged performance.

In a broader sense, it is curious to see how Europe, lined up by Washington on the anti-Russian front, has been hardest hit by the thoughtless sanctions, emptying its arsenals to supply weapons to Kiev (without even asking for a report on who will control them or where they go), and freeing up its market only to subsequently buy US military products and expensive American LNG instead of available Russian gas. Such trends, coupled with the de facto merger between the EU and NATO, make the continued talk about Europe’s “strategic autonomy” nothing more than a show. Everyone has already understood that the collective West’s foreign policy is a “one-man theatre.” Moreover, it is consistently seeking ever new theaters of military operations.

One element of the geopolitical gambit against Russia is granting the status of an eternal EU candidate country to Ukraine and Moldova, which, it seems, will also face an unenviable fate. Meanwhile, a PR campaign has been initiated by President of France Emmanuel Macron to promote the “European political community,” which offers no financial or economic benefits, but demands full compliance with the EU’s anti-Russia actions. The principle behind it is not either/or but “who is not with us is against us.” Emmanuel Macron explained the gist of the “community”: the EU will invite all European countries – “from Iceland to Ukraine” – to join it, but not Russia. I would like to stress that we are not eager to join, but the statement itself showcases the essence of this obviously confrontational and divisive new undertaking.

Ukraine, Moldova and other countries being courted by the EU today are destined to be extras in the games of the West. The United States, as the main producer, calls the tune and devises the storyline based on which Europe writes the anti-Russia screenplay. The actors are ready and possess the skills acquired during their tenure at the Kvartal 95 Studio: they will provide a voice-over for dramatic texts no worse than the now forgotten Greta Thunberg and play musical instruments, if needed. The actors are good: remember how convincing Vladimir Zelensky was in his role as a democrat in the Servant of the People: fighter against corruption and discrimination against Russians and for all the right things in general. Remember and compare it with his immediate transformation in his role as president. It is perfect Stanislavsky Method acting: banning the Russian language, education, media and culture. “If you feel like Russians, then go to Russia for the sake of your children and grandchildren.” Good advice. He called Donbass residents “species” rather than people. And this is what he said about the Nazi Azov battalion: “They are what they are. There is plenty of such people around here.” Even CNN was ashamed to leave this phrase in the interview.

This prompts a question: what will be the outcome of all these storylines? Staged incidents based on blood and agony are by no means fun but a display of a cynical policy in creating a new reality where all principles of the UN Charter and all norms of international law are attempted to be replaced with their “rules-based order” in an aspiration to perpetuate their dwindling domination in global affairs.

The games undertaken by the West in the OSCE after from end of the Cold War, where it considered itself a winner, had the most devastating consequences for the modern international relations. Having quickly broken their promises to the Soviet and Russian leadership on the non-expansion of NATO to the east, the United States and its allies nevertheless declared their commitment to building a unified space of security and cooperation in the Euro-Atlantic region. They formalized it at the top level with all OSCE members in 1999 and 2010 within the framework of a political obligation to ensure equal and inseparable security where no country will strengthen its security at the expense of others and no organization will claim a dominating role in Europe. It soon became evident that NATO members do no keep their word and that their goal is the supremacy of the North-Atlantic Alliance. Even then we continued our diplomatic efforts, proposing to formalize the principle of equal and inseparable security in a legally binding agreement. We proposed this a number of times, the last one in December 2021, but received a flat denial in response. They told us directly: there will be no legal guarantees outside NATO. Which means that the support of the political documents approved at the OSCE summits turned out to be a cheap fake. And now NATO, driven by the United States, has gone even further: they want to dominate over the entire Asia-Pacific region in addition to the Euro-Atlantic. NATO members make no effort to conceal the target of their threats, and China’s leadership has already publicly declared its position regarding such neo-colonial ambitions. Beijing has already responded by citing the principle of indivisible security, declaring its support for applying it on a global scale to prevent any country from claiming its exclusivity. This approach fully coincides with Russia’s position. We will make consistent efforts to defend it together with our allies, strategic partners and many other like-minded countries.

The collective West should come back to Earth from the world of illusions. The staged incidents, no matter how long they go on, will not work. It is time for fair play based on the international law rather than cheating. The sooner everyone realizes that there are no alternatives to objective historical processes where a multipolar world is formed based on respect for the principle of sovereign equality of states, fundamental for the UN Charter and the entire world order, the better.

If members of the western alliance are unable to live according to this principle, are not ready to build a truly universal architecture of equal security and cooperation, they should leave everyone alone, stop using threats and blackmail to recruit those who want to live on their own wits and acknowledge the right to freedom of choice by independent self-respecting countries. This is what democracy is all about, the real democracy, not one played out on a shabbily built political stage.

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# Where is this speech?mileto808 2022-07-24 16:45
Is there a full link to what Lavrov said? Can find parts of it on other op-eds but the the full. Where did Hal get this???
-1 # "You'd Never Guess"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-24 10:29
Sergey Lavrov, Russian Foreign Minister, is "Gay." Some would say "Queer." The Point is "He's Just Another Sexual Deviate Looking To Hump A Dog If It Has A Dick." World Leadership is "Nothing More Than A Bunch Of Sick Old Screwed-Up Men." There are "No Good Guys." "Only very disgusting Evil Nasty People" are in "Positions of Leadership."
+1 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing Politicspsampson 2022-07-24 02:40
The "west" has been taken hostage by Satanist world elite people that are working through our governments and in the name of our governments to perpetrate evil and fowl deeds around the world, for years now.....especially since 2000, even before that.
+1 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing PoliticsForrest Mosby 2022-07-24 05:53
Quoting psampson:
The "west" has been taken hostage by Satanist world elite people that are working through our governments and in the name of our governments to perpetrate evil and fowl deeds around the world, for years now.....especially since 2000, even before that.


Ive noticed you’ve used ‘fowl’ in other posts-Im no grammar nazi-I really dont give a rats-ass how people who post show their education-but you are usually correct in your facts and letting spell check do that to you more than once detracts from your [otherwise] correct facts
Fowl is a bird
Foul is detestable

Regards
# ?Ziglveit B Shtoonk 2022-07-26 01:25
detestable birds?
+1 # "Project DS" SpOps-Black Star Divisiont.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-23 21:34
Q Post: Moma Samba Snake Oil Charlie Tango 2
-11 # Biden is best President we hadSammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-07-23 18:35
He's doing more to stand against Russia then Reagan would have or any president of my lifetime President Biden is amazing I believe that he will protect us from Russian aggression or Chinese and he's an amazing man with amazing ability and I know the rest of you don't believe that at this website that I'm not saying it just to talk I'm not taunting to you at all it's just a matter of fact He's a brave courageous leader I'm proud to have him on board as my commander-in-chief
# Sammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022?SuperSoul1971 2022-07-27 14:43
is that true?
+1 # RE: Biden is best President we hadForrest Mosby 2022-07-24 06:01
Quoting Sammy b3368:
He's doing more to stand against Russia then Reagan would have or any president of my lifetime President Biden is amazing I believe that he will protect us from Russian aggression or Chinese and he's an amazing man with amazing ability and I know the rest of you don't believe that at this website that I'm not saying it just to talk I'm not taunting to you at all it's just a matter of fact He's a brave courageous leader I'm proud to have him on board as my commander-in-chief


Sammy-Sammy-Sammy…you need to fact check your rants w your extra-terrestrial friends..Ike was out last decent man to serve in that office..Some will say JFK but he was a creation of his daddy who had to settle after Joe got himself killed and wasnt to correct material to be there…too easily swayed by advisors-with-their-own-agenda; just like everyone since him…Ike met with some of your buddies at Edwards AFB in the 50’s…They know and will correct you…That drooling idiot you named isnt even running the water cooler in the WH,much less conducting a war
# " Sammy b3368"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-23 21:37
"The Man!" DS
+2 # RE: Biden is best President we hadTC 2022-07-23 20:05
You know, you might be right. You could be his vice president and you would probably be smarter than the one he has now.
+1 # RE: Biden is best President we hadForrest Mosby 2022-07-24 06:04
Quoting TC:
You know, you might be right. You could be his vice president and you would probably be smarter than the one he has now.

Sammys got serious short circuits in his synapse junctions…”Smarter” doesnt apply to him or Brandon..B is a drooling idiot
+1 # to QOUTE NICK CAVENZ KIWI 2022-07-23 18:22
i have the HIGGS BOSON BLUES ,and you can keep your [ f...king ] CANNON LAW, we seem to be joining the dots of the 100 year RINSE REPEAT CYCLE , resulting in another huge loss of human life and capital ???
+10 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing PoliticsA706 2022-07-23 17:33
We have no-one in our political arena that could articulate with such pure logic and truth what this Russian juggernaut has written out here.
Sad, just fucking sad.
-4 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing Politicsmjc 2022-07-23 22:54
Quoting A706:
We have no-one in our political arena that could articulate with such pure logic and truth what this Russian juggernaut has written out here.
Sad, just fucking sad.


Pompeo was a blunt instrument, but a straight-shooter.
James Baker was obviously gifted.
George Shultz was gifted.

Kissinger was a mixed bag (gifted/mixed loyalty).
Condolezza Rice was a mixed bag (naive accademic).

We've had ours......just......not recently........
+6 # 2 Peter 3:15‭-‬18J_Grayman 2022-07-23 16:45
There's been so many arguments over
scripture lately. While reading 2 Peter this afternoon, this section really hit me, so I thought I'd share it.

Some of us aren't hardened in our hearts and unloving towards one another here. Some of us, while seeking info on world events, still want to build up others instead of tearing down people who have their own walk and different "opinions".
Remember, the greatest commandment is to love one another as HE has loved us (while we were still deep in unrepentant sin!)

(15) "And consider the patience of our Lord [His delay in judging and avenging wrongs] as salvation [that is, allowing time for more to be saved]; just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given to him [by God],

(16) speaking about these things as he does in all of his letters. In which there are some things that are difficult to understand, which the untaught and unstable [who have fallen into error] twist and misinterpret, just as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

(17) Therefore, [let me warn you] beloved, knowing these things beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men [who distort doctrine] and fall from your own steadfastness [of mind, knowledge, truth, and faith],

(18) but grow [spiritually mature] in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be glory (honor, majesty, splendor), both now and to the day of eternity. Amen."
2 Peter 3:15‭-‬18
# On the other hand....JECJEC 2022-07-24 18:50
Grayman, while I agree with you in general and your use of 2 Peter, we also have Proverbs 26:4,5 concerning how -and- IF we "respond" to foolish individuals.

Proverbs 26: 4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. 5 Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes.

While these two verses definitely appear to contradict each other in today's English dialects, they actually don't.

Verse four advises one NOT to answer a fool because (as one meme puts it) he will drag you down to his level and beat you to death with his stupidity. - sorry, I could not resist a little humor here)

A better example of verse four is Luke 20:1-8 when Jesus addressed a question with a question (before He would attempt to give an answer) to the chief priests, scribes and elders - and, because they would not answer His question, Jesus refused to answer theirs.

Now, verse five implies "however" there is a time when it IS necessary to answer a fool and the perfect example of that would be Paul pitting himself against false apostles in 2 Corinthians 11:5-33.

The Nelson Study Bible is excellent in this: “The phrase according to his folly appears twice as a play on words with two shades of meaning. On the one hand, it means ‘avoid the temptation to stoop to his level’; that is, don’t use his methods, lest you also be like him. On the other hand, it means, ‘avoid the temptation to ignore him altogether’; that is, respond in some way, or else he will become wise in his own eyes and his folly will get worse.”

Basically, what I'm trying to say is, while I'm commanded to love my neighbor as myself and to be long suffering in "putting up with those who wish to act and think like a two year old", I'm also compelled to exercise:

2 Timothy 4:2-5 (emphasis on vs 3,4) 2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

This goes right along with you quoting verse 17.

We're on the same side, I just have a hard time responding to silliness (foolishness) and many times on this website, I intentionally decide NOT to respond to certain individuals.
+3 # You won't own anything and I bet you won't like ittdanella25@gmail.com 2022-07-23 16:20
Anyone seen this? https://oculumlabs.com/
They are saying a new system is being built which will be implemented after a crash and a lot of turmoil so it will be accepted.
You will be Class C, Common, or Class R, Restricted or the worst Class Q, Quarantined. No Cash, No Assets, No freedom of speech, and it requires Vaccination.
-7 # "Miss JoAnn Vanilla"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-23 15:41
Says, "She'd like to get a date with Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister." Miss Vanilla notes "Sergey needs a little Special Sexual Attention" to "Relieve His Tensions & Anxiety." She also notes "He needs some Dominance Training with a Bit of the Whip & Cuffs." JoAnn feels as a Good American Patriot "She Must Perform Special Services" for The United States, and feels an "Obligation to Subdue Sergey to be Subservient as a Slave to a Fine Vanilla Spanking." This is too "Teach Sergey Lavrov, the Russian Foreign Minister, to be Humble, Fun Loving, and Reserved."
-9 # Hanoi Jane Very proud of youGQHTRS2021 2022-07-23 15:30
I am sure "Hanoi Jane" is very proud of the pure Communist Chinese Party & Russian Communist Supporters commenting & spreading Communist deceit,lies & propaganda all over this site. Shame on each & every one of you in this treasonous lot.
+2 # RE: Hanoi Jane Very proud of youForrest Mosby 2022-07-23 19:49
Quoting GQHTRS2021:
I am sure "Hanoi Jane" is very proud of the pure Communist Chinese Party & Russian Communist Supporters commenting & spreading Communist deceit,lies & propaganda all over this site. Shame on each & every one of you in this treasonous lot.

Id love to see that bitch and our very own Sammy in a debate
# "Forrest Mosby"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-24 21:03
It'd be quite boring cause "2 Wrongs Don't Make A Right."
+15 # Captured...Gulfcaptain 2022-07-23 13:29
New World (unipolar) liberal (Godless) order. Captured: The EU, the UN, USA, Australia, NZ, Japan, Canada, Israel and a hand full of smaller subservient countries along with several major religious institutions.

Is it any wonder the UN ignores Russia's bio lab crime evidence? Why they ignore international law when it comes to the US/NATO crimes and policies? Half the world is captured and does as they are told. On top of it all are the banks. The money trail always leads there.

Ever wondered why the World ECONOMIC forum is so interested in what you will eat, what you will (not) own, your life and we'll being? Why would an "economic" think tank of uber elites care? Answer: They are the hidden masters holding the banking purse strings, Intel agencies, and shadowy wet work teams. Pull the curtain back and there they are. Hidden no more since they have decided now is the time to pull the plug on the old system to create the new from the ashes. The bank needs the USA and Russia to eliminate each other to accomplish their goal. China, waiting in the wings.
+3 # yessir!SuperSoul1971 2022-07-23 14:18
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-7 # "Sammy b3368 Special Message For You"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-23 13:27
I think your "Loaded with Information." You have a "Very Active Mind." We all live on this Earth being of "One Country or the Other" and "Every Citizen of His Specific Nation" tends to "Favor Their Global Positions." The Greatest Gift to Mankind would be and is "Freedom To Have and Express without Harm 'Independent Thought' While Flowing Through This Thing Called Life." I notice "You Take A Great Deal of Time Expressing Your Thoughts." My projected Logic is "Open Thoughts Closed Dangerous Actions and Closed Thoughts Open Dangerous Actions" is "How I see the Universal Mind of Humanity."
+7 # SammyForrest Mosby 2022-07-23 13:41
I used to try to keep him in perspective…I first thought he hit bad acid in the 60’s…I knew some fried people from that time of my life that couldnt string words just like him, but now….I agree w some who think he is a bot, a CIA op, AI or some combo of those…..
I had to quit trying to even read his stuff….If it IS a medical isdue, Im sorry for him…If not,well…
# "Forrest Mosby"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-24 21:12
Don't Blame the CIA cause "Their Cocaine Product was the Best in the World." Sammy probably would probably have functioned better on "CIA Dope." Black Operations Cost Money surely "There was a Better Way to Raise Cash" but then again, "It Was The Times We Lived." I just "Never Understood The Need To Put People In Jail For Drugs Supplied By The U.S. Government."
+9 # He is a member ...Doug Brown 2022-07-23 13:54
Sammy is a member of Hal's handicapped
Section.
Showing mercy.
That's all.
Just skip over.
+9 # Yep...J_Grayman 2022-07-23 15:10
And there's a few others that are more of an issue, who I won't name, we know who they are...still, if we're going to be 1st Amend supporters, then allow ppl to share what they want. It's our choice to read them or ignore them.

At least Sammy doesn't demean anyone, create division & cause strife.
+9 # ProjectionBuffalolips 2022-07-23 13:20
Recognize that what we're witnessing in the actions of the United States and the UN nations on the world stage is not just their attempted hegemony over the entire world. Think bigger. The United States and those same nations are attempting to rule their own States and populations in a similar subordinate fashion, ignoring their sovereignty, displaying a similar lack of integrity in their dealings, showing little or respect for the Rule of Law unless it advantages them, refusing to recognize our own borders, overstepping their Constitutional bounds, ignoring States Rights and particularly the liberty and due process guaranteed to all Americans. Americans are under the same assault from the United States as is Russia.
+5 # GOOD history run down Hal ...NHydg 2022-07-23 13:19
All this tactical on Ukraines evil and Kiev is still standing ?? ?? ?? All this time it has been a wonder WHY the "leaders " of Ukraine has not been taken down. The bad guy nazis can STILL be exterminated ....... life in a Russian prison .....hmmmm ..... cutting blocks of ice in Siberia .
+16 # Read on the Air.Doug Brown 2022-07-23 13:19
This is why I listen to Hal Turner.
This is Hal Turner on steriods.
Brilliant.
Lavrov spells it out clearly, as clearly as Hal
attempts spelling it out nightly.
Bravo.
+15 # Case for Wargbhaywood 2022-07-23 12:33
Regardless of what you think of his content, what Lavrov is doing is laying out the case for war against the West, much like Powell was tasked to do at the UN before the US invaded Iraq. It is another step closer to a bigger conflict.
+10 # RE: Case for WarForrest Mosby 2022-07-23 12:52
Quoting gbhaywood:
Regardless of what you think of his content, what Lavrov is doing is laying out the case for war against the West, much like Powell was tasked to do at the UN before the US invaded Iraq. It is another step closer to a bigger conflict.


Yes…Thats exactly what he was doing
+3 # Arguing with a head on a spike talking in circlesSuperSoul1971 2022-07-23 11:55
Quoting SuperSoul1971:
here they come with PCR and Nyquist (and any other "experts") links and quotes, and confabulations to completely contradict and dispel the above piece by Mr Lavrov,
DJ SuperSoul: "it's useless.....cut it off... THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS BOTH SPECTATING AND IN THE BACK SEAT... Its FESTIVE!!! What's gonna happen?? Let's watch and record it on our phone! Cliffhanger day #8239 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7dtzr
+1 # all the locations are gone, just like 'merika..SuperSoul1971 2022-07-23 11:57
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+8 # Revelation 18daniel_martin 2022-07-23 11:46
Its written that Babylon is the Center of the World (UN), responsible for people slaughtered worldwide, feared and admired by all the Nations. All the Nations but one, her Arch Enemy from the North (Russia), destined to destroy her by nuclear fire, rendering the land uninhabitable forever
+1 # hmmmSuperSoul1971 2022-07-23 12:09
Quoting daniel_martin:
All the Nations but one, her ArchEnemy from the Far North, predestined to burn her in one hour, with Nuclear Holocaust, rendering her uninhabitable forever


So the Chinee dont get to 'occupy" CONUS and use it? I don't suppose this "ArchEnemy" will be able to NOT attack izz-ray-ell and get wiped out? Even so, just like HERE, God's people will be saved unto eternal life- Russians et al who are His, same as here, those who are His. Doesnt mean they wont have to endure the sh!tstorm nor does it mean they wont separate from their mortal bodies. That is NOWHERE promised or provided for.
Same as if they had not crucified Jesus, we'd have no sacrifice unto salvation, but they walked right into it.
+3 # Choices for uscarolenelms 2022-07-23 11:30
It seems to me that the US has a choice to make. Accept the CCP as our future, accept Russia as a nation to respect or just keep on this path of mutual assured destruction. George Washington told us to avoid foreign entanglements and mind our own business.

If mankind was to be unified and likeminded there would be only one religion, believing in only one deity and true brotherhood. Now we all know that is not going to happen as even today there is no agreement on the true path to salvation.

I see no future of peace as long as the love of money, power and control over others is so prevalent.
+11 # Only one solutionTurnercom1 2022-07-23 11:12
The west will never stop until they are stopped.
# ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED READING...dave0975644 2022-07-23 10:49
and I don't say that very often:

https://www.barnhardt.biz/2022/07/22/were-the-baddies-world-war-sodomy-with-nukes-is-about-us-bio-weapons-labs-in-ukraine-which-were-intentionally-leaking-into-the-human-population/
-20 # Every time you support Russia nowSammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-07-23 10:41
Do you realize every time you support Russia here on this app that you go against a policy of the United States of America do you realize that that policy is well thought out by legitimate smart folks to know how a lot more than the rest of us what's right and wrong that war and Ukraine United States please Ukraine has a right a solventory to be free and they believe Russia is not belong there they haven't changed any policies and that's including Crimea nice days doesn't even agree on the Russian naval bases there their policy is for freedom and liberty worldwide and dignity and every time you say something nice about those Russians and what they're doing in another country there is no excuse for that there's no skills to go and rape woman and children to send people into their country and not let them go where they want to go there's no democracy in that you must realize you cannot go against the policy of the United States she's always right even if you have to suffer in that policy that's what's called being a patriot now me my time is coming short soon where I will be homeless and I will hope a family member will take me in my time is short I don't own nothing I'm going to real bad situation my government won't help me in this bad situation she's too busy fighting for you Korean right now and trying to give them a legitimacy of a government now what happened to over here that used to be any kind of Nazi symbols in your house on the wall in California and across the country in the 1990s they would raid the house the rest of people and charge them with graffiti charges charges and they would go to jail for that it's even dangerous to have Soviet stuff here you give it up on the walls and you're just playing it it's something glorious and great you can be charged and go to prison the last I know if this is the same world I was in don't go across against your country cut that out you're hurting her policies her policies are right so I'm a country you don't break that rule you don't go across the border you don't go sit in the border and lie lie lie that you're not going to cross and go cross just so you want to show everybody your brave man and your Mr macho that's what the Russians did those people are have rights like everybody else and they're able to produce and do things on their own and who they want to have in their own backyard and pay respect to is their business not Russians not Americans it's their own sovereign right and I know that she will try to be like America everybody does eventually Ukraine will be like America and those Nazi symbols America must have made up its mind that it's nothing really substance there or they plan on working on it wants the war is over with and cleaning it up afterwards but we have to trust our men and women to come up with these policies there's a reason for everything
+1 # Every time you support Russia now..Lexie 2022-07-23 17:25
Sammy I honestly believe you are living in some old and ancient fabled land where people trusted the men in charge to do the right thing by them. Sammy I am here to tell you this fabled time you speak of has never existed and it never will. The greatest lie was convincing people the devil did not exist. There is not a politician alive who works for any of us. I wish the picture you paint was authentic and true but the reality says it just is not so.
+2 # WellWoulf 2022-07-23 19:27
There was "1". They nailed him to a cross. No good dead ever goes unpunished.
+1 # RE: Every time you support Russia nowEddamnit 2022-07-23 12:36
Please, precisely what is the policy of the USA?
+5 # Please stop....Suzuko804 2022-07-23 11:35
You've been advised again and again that your refusal to use punctuation makes your posts extremely difficult to read, yet you never correct this practice. Aside from this, your opinions are most often the polar opposite of the views of Hal Turner and his subscribers. Why do you insist on filling this comment board with your blather? Do you not have a life?
+2 # RE: Please stop....Faith11 2022-07-23 17:04
He uses a speech to text program and he has not been using punctuation. as long as I have been on here. It is just bunch of run-on sentences.It would be more efficient to post once per topic, and write one or two normal structured sentences.
# RE: Please stop....Forrest Mosby 2022-07-23 19:48
Quoting Faith11:
He uses a speech to text program and he has not been using punctuation. as long as I have been on here. It is just bunch of run-on sentences.It would be more efficient to post once per topic, and write one or two normal structured sentences.


Thats been said several (doz) times but I’ve actually tried adding punctuation and attempted to make sense and it doesn't work…you can structure sentences but you get subjects that look like they were generated by “This is your brain on [hard]drugs since you were 2 years old”level stuff…No, theres something really, Really off going on there but its Hal’s site and I just quit reading the posts unless Im bored..kind of like workibg a crossword without clues
# RE: Please stop....jmredmond54 2022-07-23 13:38
Suzuko804, I wish Mr. Turner would ban this poor soul from the comment section. I completely agree with you. Sammy must go.
Mr. Turner, are you listening sir??!!!
+3 # Poor ole Sammy .....ha haNHydg 2022-07-23 17:59
Sammy does take a bit to get used to ........ Sammy is like the radio station tuned in that is playing rap crap..... you just tune in a different station ........or ya just scroll past and hit tha thumbs down as you go by .
Hal is a true believer of Free Speech .... God Bless ya Hal.
+3 # RE: Please stop....Eddamnit 2022-07-23 12:40
Some people believe that whomever talks the most wins.
# Artificial Ignorancepaulattahoe 2022-07-23 13:02
Trolls get paid by the word, so quantity = dollars. Hal should delete several poverty posters here IMO. I doubt anyone reads this artificial ignorance (AI) drivel.
+20 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing PoliticsLambs Servant 2022-07-23 10:31
Lavrov is a true statesman.
-1 # LavrovWoulf 2022-07-23 19:32
He knows how to handle the "press".
"Who raised you, who taught you your manners?" The look on her face was "priceless".
Never mess with a "man" before "breakfast".
-19 # One other thingSammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-07-23 10:24
Russians were looking for special medals that were mounted at tens of thousands of degrees two of them mixed together would something that corrodes like rust as a thin material weight substance that's how they started out they are able to go far and above what we are and fight it's all kind of thing no one practices with it you're giving a little instructions how to put something together and off they go to war in our streets now you're all over here delusional like in that guy that l a v guy you ain't no good there's nobody good in that government they are have to kiss Mr Putin's ass excuse my language but that's the way it is I don't know I never considered myself a patriot I always consider myself anytime America but put here to the metal to the metal to the Gretel I must be a patriot it's very competitive over here it's very hard to make it any money or to be worth any money to anybody to get a salary it's very competitive and the rest of the work day and night to be like America but you all believe in propaganda Russian style you all need to get your heads checked and you all need a re-education camp maybe eventually you'll see the truth and they can give you a steak dinner for it and send you home
+16 # Well Spokenskyward21 2022-07-23 10:12
Mr. Lavrov is quite the statesman!
Well said, to the point, and reflective.
Truth, at its finest.
-17 # You're all on top of old smokeySammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-07-23 10:11
Your mind's are out there in the middle of nowhere did you know folks the Russians were looking into cardboard tanks being real tanks with space age materials things that can't burn to there they can't blow up they can't get ripped apart they can't get their heads rattled in there they can be set up anywhere in the world in regular cargo do you have any idea the stuff the Russians have worked on they had a problem with the engines to get the things to move and they might even be using the current of the ground to get the things to move Russia's into nothing but deception now all this great talk about that l a v guy is nonsense he's not a great guy he's out to benefit Russia with Russia's benefits are whatever hurts Americans the most right now realize your folly folks they're not friendly they're not going to treat you nice if they ever come here they're going to surprise The living daylights out of you they weren't even looking at the shelves when I was talking with them they're more concerned about the engine and what was going to move them they could put them together and have them I don't know about shells we're in for a big big Awakening with these Russians in the winter team probably is the Russians but I'm sticking with America
+10 # Brilliant!mike6972 2022-07-23 10:09
Thank you for posting this.
+11 # RE: Brilliant!Suzuko804 2022-07-23 11:37
I wish there was a bit more space between the green and red thumbs. As it is, it's way too easy to hit the wrong one -- as I just did.
+18 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing PoliticsBren1776 2022-07-23 10:01
With the exception of one or two points, everything Lavrov said I've known about for years. It didn't come from Russian sources either. It came from American, or sources in the West. If that piece had been written by someone from the West, it would be perceived differently. Becuse of Russophobia people will dismiss what he is saying. I've listened to Lavrov from the very beginning of the special military operation, and I've come to respect him. He's probably the best foreign minister bar none and Russia is lucky to have him. When it come to the leaders in the west, I only see clowns and globalist shills.
+15 # Proofell 2022-07-23 10:37
This is just more evidence that the whole 2020 election, jan6, and many other events were staged as well. Our government is treasonous.
-7 # Ever Notice HowForrest Mosby 2022-07-23 09:56
Coarse and brutish Russians can look?..The Putin has smoother features, indicating a better genetic pattern but the most common look is a thuggish slant
-3 # RE: Ever Notice HowEddamnit 2022-07-23 12:41
That's pretty shallow.
+1 # RE: Ever Notice HowForrest Mosby 2022-07-23 13:03
Quoting Eddamnit:
That's pretty shallow.


Call it what you feel you should…I could care less what any politician says….In the long run, whether they lie, are eloquent or assholes, it means nothing to me….If you dont agree, dont…thats on you….Like using the term racist, commenting on my views w/o presenting evidence in rebuttal is nothing more than a dim/lib tactic to avoid….
If you feel Im in error, post correcting evidence…
I hate no one….I simply observe and, when I feel its applicable, I post…This dude, no matter how educated or powerful, is a typical Slav
…..
+1 # RE: Ever Notice HowForrest Mosby 2022-07-23 13:50
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
Quoting Eddamnit:
That's pretty shallow.


Call it what you feel you should…I could care less what any politician says….In the long run, whether they lie, are eloquent or assholes, it means nothing to me….If you dont agree, dont…thats on you….Like using the term racist, commenting on my views w/o presenting evidence in rebuttal is nothing more than a dim/lib tactic to avoid….
If you feel Im in error, post correcting evidence…
I hate no one….I simply observe and, when I feel its applicable, I post…This dude, no matter how educated or powerful, is a typical Slav
…..


For that matter, so is john kerry( frankenkerry)…Long, horse face, big nose, high forehead,…[Badly] mixed genes
+4 # That's all you can say?mike6972 2022-07-23 10:08
Did you even read his words? Or do you just hate him for obviously racist reasons? Shameful!
+1 # RE: That's all you can say?Forrest Mosby 2022-07-23 10:48
Quoting mike6972:
Did you even read his words? Or do you just hate him for obviously racist reasons? Shameful!


I could give a shit less what any of them say any more…And yes…my observation is dead on
+1 # RE: That's all you can say?Forrest Mosby 2022-07-23 10:50
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
Quoting mike6972:
Did you even read his words? Or do you just hate him for obviously racist reasons? Shameful!


I could give a shit less what any of them say any more…And yes…my observation is dead on


Any of them meaning ANY of them-from any country…as for my genetics observations, prove me wrong
-17 # One more thingSammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-07-23 09:52
When you come across these Bridges the only way to get them to come down is you get a fire truck at a big powerful strong rope put it around the bridge on the bottom and around the fire truck and try to yank it out of the ground the whole thing will fall out you have to do it live on the spot there's no blowing it up there's no ripping it apart there's no throwing chemicals on it and burning it you have to go live to the bridge and then knock her down in the Russians have plans and having those things knocked down before anybody even got to them bridges are bridges and that's the war the war comes to a bridge and how stuff can float down Rivers how big can they be to float down the river that's six feet deep that's the whole war in America you know so remember keep your eyes on the rivers keep your eyes on the bridges and a high-rises too in the cities love those high-rises they're they're infatuated with them
-18 # The Russians won't talk to me like thisSammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-07-23 09:45
I could turn on the radios find the light broadcast today and tells us to work it out and I bet you I'd get nothing you know why because they're in the mood to fight and do bad things and propaganda life when they want to clean up their act be part of the West and do good things and get out of the trouble there and then they'll try talking to you folks like me they will try talking to me but right now they won't anything coming out of them is a lie it's policed up it's a boost up smells pretty looks nice you even believe it but it's a lie and that guy you like over there Mr Turner that lav guy he's the biggest liar he's almost deceptive person he tries to run the whole government he tries to be president and he just might as well be president the last 4 years I don't like him but I don't have to I didn't like that general either it took over everything that's a big long story and it's so may he rest in peace he died in a helicopter crash the board so the poor soul I just meant only poor soul
-18 # One more thing for nowSammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-07-23 09:38
All the money and all the agencies of the United States government and all presidencies have done a great job they are the superheroes the ones working in their desk the ones that are out there in the field the ones that are helping with DOD the ones that are helping out with budgets they're all heroes the wonderful man I really admire the NSA amazing amazing agency amazing amazing amazing results the least one I like is the CIA they're the hardest to understand but I do admire them I like to Pentagon I like them all it's easy for us to sitting on the outside all the policies that changed life on the flight how much she's able to catch up with the enemy with all the people work but all the different agencies involved it's amazing our country is amazing and this one thing I'm going to leave with you they think the number one reason why America hasn't gotten invaded is number one the enemy only could maybe 2500 soldiers paratrooper men another one is the British and the princess need work and they're 10 million dollar britches now it's rumored that the Russians have come up with a space age material that's only a hundred pounds that are put up a 10 million dollar bridge they cannot be blown apart or blown up or ripped apart based off space technology and that they have enough for a couple hundreds Bridges across the country for their equipment to get by will they direct them and Ukraine I don't know so we are in danger of being invaded the danger is there also the rumor we are working on it so are them uniforms that will pick up something within 20th of a microseconds and get hard and absorb it and each of these uniforms only weigh like 2 lb based off space material both can't harm them you become indestructible and hackers down within half of a microseconds it's like a live uniform it's been rumored that they have a lot of things that they haven't put to their posts it's kind of self-explanatory when you put the helmet on so the Russians are capable of invading us but never before in time wasn't in Vietnam they used to put up britches within hours after wood that was around there over here it would take months once the bridge got destroyed but the rest is going to these Bridges within 45 minutes biggest tough is the San Francisco bridge the only way about 100 lb of material and they might be here ready to be deployed they could be sitting anywhere in the country so we have to trust our men and women in uniform and our government folks to continue to keep us safe and the stop anybody from even thinking of invading us now the biggest thing to worry about that I know of the super bowl night they did think about our Christmas because theirs is different but I recall them ruin that out ruling set out no more I mean the biggest night is a super bowl night we have a long wait before super bowl in New years Eve they're getting drunk like we are too the Soviets wanted to do stuff on that night but not this new government they're they're in love with super bowl money or world series when they have those six seven world series but mostly super bowl that's a long way off and the weather has to be good too you know the Russians are good at skiing and they're able to produce storms so if you're looking for a lot of storms be looking for super bowl night to be actually nice and clear without storms but them hitting before and you know we might have to get our guns out of our closets follow some up and go to war and protect the USA
-8 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing PoliticsLinda Seikkula 2022-07-23 09:18
People of America. Go to my Facebook page. Read the article I put out.
We have been duped from the top on down. Make sure you go to the links also.
All these so called "World Leader's" are Gluttonous Criminals. Including Putin and Zelensky and Biden, the UN, NATO, China, Iran etc.
Gluttonous for greed of power, wealth and control of us, their subjects/slaves.
Americans you need to realize the grave Treason that has been commited against We The People. Read the links in the article also.
+6 # So quickly forgottenGroundpounder 2022-07-23 09:18
I remember during the obamer years there was a general plan to provide euroupe with us lng the problem was russian gas was more affordable it appears now euroupe needs us lng imagine that
+19 # Future actionPeachey 2022-07-23 09:16
Lavrov has laid out a very good case for future actions to be taken. The U.S. will be dealt with in God’s timing.
-17 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing PoliticsSammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-07-23 09:01
Oh every president we've had in my lifetime was awesome each and every one of them they were great men that served our country and wanted to do what's best for everyone involved and every situation and every turn and every possible way United States of America did not stop being the good guy and and I like all the presidents that's been there even the one we have now I respect them all very filled with dignity they are great men Reagan had such wonderful greatness about him and so did George Bush Jr and Senior we are so lucky to be Americans to have the leadership we have had and I'm sorry you don't feel that way Mr Turner but I'm quite proud of our leadership it's amazing across all these administrations and all these different policies they always remain the good guy
-9 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing PoliticsHaarnaś 2022-07-23 09:37
Quoting Sammy b3368:
I'm sorry you don't feel that way Mr Turner but I'm quite proud of our leadership it's amazing across all these administrations and all these different policies they always remain the good guy


That is a showstopper-bullseye statement not surprisingly coming from our CIA troll. It is amazingly correct and is the only reasonable solution to end the war at this point! The American policy at this point should be to start negotiations with Russia about peace at once. There will never again be any nagotiations between Russia and Ukraine again. The failed Minsk Accords which Hal throws all the time at us as the justification for the Russian invasion were doomed from the beginning, because Misk did not have the prestige of the US power behind them. The accords were guaranteed by France and Germany, two countries that lacked the means for their enforcements.

Hal you should be advocating not for Russia here but for peace based on the new Minsk accords guaranteed by the US and based on the American-Russian negotiations. Multilateral accords have failed miserably, and they will fail again!
+18 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing PoliticsHalTurner 2022-07-23 10:57
I disagree. Americans and NATO have shown themselves to be untruthful, deceptive, and aggressive.

In 1996-97 during the re-unification of East/West Germany, it was the US, UK and France that assured Russia "NATO will not move one inch eastward." We lied.

We not only moved eastward, we did so right up to Russia's own borders!

Ukraine . . . signed the Geneva Convention in the 1940's then announced two months or so ago, they would not honor the Geneva Convention during hostilities with Russia.

This came after Ukraine also signed the Minsk Agreements, and failed -- for eight years - to implement even one provision of those agreements. Then the former Ukraine President, Poroshenko, admitted on TV they had no intention of honoring Minsk, it was signed just to buy Ukraine time to build its army and build its economy.

So Ukraine is a demonstrable liar and cheat country. The US, UK, France, et. al. have also proven to be liars and deceptive.

Why would Russia negotiate with such hoodlums? I wouldn't.
# █▓▒░ RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing Politics ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-07-24 22:25
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Quote:
Americans and NATO have shown themselves
to be untruthful, deceptive, and aggressive.

Absolutely true with no questions or doubt about it.

Lies and deceit have been the order of the day
from the US and NATO.

Anyone who fails to see the pattern of such, over time,
isn't paying attention.
-3 # I am just echoing Hungary's PM Orban's sentimentstoday!Haarnaś 2022-07-23 17:25
Quoting HalTurner:


Why would Russia negotiate with such hoodlums? I wouldn't.


Because, PEACE is the ultimate goal of any just war. Peace should be the goal of any and every Right-wing archconservative, not more war. What i am saying is not all that original. This is the very argument made today by the PM of Hungary Orban and carried on all the newswires. Orban’s stance of opposing stronger sanctions against and even fostering closer ties with Russia, as well as banning direct weapons transfers to Ukraine through Hungary, puts him at odds with most other EU and NATO members.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/defiant-orban-doubles-down-on-russia-policy-arch-conservativism-1.1795834

The West should stop arming Ukraine and work for a peace settlement instead, Hungary’s prime minister told his supporters on Saturday.

Viktor Orban doubled down on positions that have brought him into conflict with the European Union, the US and even his former political allies in Poland. He said the West’s strategy in Ukraine -- including economic sanctions on Russia and the provision of military aid -- has failed.

“It’s not the EU’s job to take sides in this conflict, but to go between the two sides” to help negotiations, Orban said an annual retreat in Baile Tusnad, Romania.

Orban directly blamed Western long-range missile shipments for Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov’s remark this week about annexing more Ukrainian territory. The Hungarian emphasized the need to understand Russia’s position of requiring security guarantees that its territory can’t be attacked.
# █▓▒░ RE: I am just echoing Hungary's PM... ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-07-24 22:28
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Quote:
PEACE is the ultimate goal of any just war.

Boy, is that a pathetic attempt to cover your a$$
or what!
+24 # Thanks for posting...FewThereBe 2022-07-23 08:51
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Lavrov hits it out of the park with truth bombs...again.

We (America-Babylon) have become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

The Lord is with Russia to fulfill prophecy and is going to destroy us, the hammer of the whole earth; which also will fulfill prophecy.

How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations! (Jer 50:23)

BeSureYouAreSaved.com
+12 # just IGNORE this "sammy" @$$hole...SuperSoul1971 2022-07-23 09:07
don't even downvote
+4 # RE: just IGNORE this "sammy" @$$hole...Paul Kurzlee 2022-07-23 12:08
Quoting Baddbuttski:
don't even downvote

And his cohort that useless kathlick moron too. I still DV them both without reading the bullshit. That kathlick puke is really fucking twisted. Hard to believe Hal ALLOWS this considering the amount of complaints about them both.
+3 # RE: just IGNORE this "sammy" @$$hole...Forrest Mosby 2022-07-23 13:07
Quoting Paul Kurzlee:
Quoting Baddbuttski:
don't even downvote

And his cohort that useless kathlick moron too. I still DV them both without reading the bullshit. That kathlick puke is really fucking twisted. Hard to believe Hal ALLOWS this considering the amount of complaints about them both.


As much as I agree w your sentiment, censorship is one of THEIR tactics…Hal avoids that as much as he can…
-12 # When I was youngerSammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-07-23 08:48
I have learning disability but I had ESP I have appointed here I had ESP like no one else on this planet and the Russian somehow knew that I would be able to give them all six numbers in Lotto the night of the draw 3 hours ahead of time I wasn't guessing I'd mention them out loud once and they all would come in time and time again through the years that's how much ESP I had I would give them 20 of the pick 10 numbers in 19 of them would come in they listen to me they wanted to get out of trouble and they wanted to be better but they didn't want to give me nothing understood I was used by the enemy
-12 # I was used by the enemySammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-07-23 08:45
He's going around with 1 billion dollar yachts where did you get the time to go on two week vacations on yachts and I was used my brains was used my personality my thoughts were used by them I got nothing from them they were enemies of America then now and always and at the same time they wanted the stock market and all this other stuff and I'm letting you know right here right now Mr Turner I was used by them and you're mine is polluted with a lot of stuff and I when I get a chance later I'll read it and I'll explain in detail here the truth of all these situations in Russia didn't get converted overnight overnight it took years and you are 100% into propaganda your country America has been right on every single subject every situation sense the 1980s they are not wrong about Gaddafi or any of it
-11 # I only read first halfSammy b3368 ACCOUNT SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-07-23 08:34
My God your mind is polluted with falsehood everybody knows Saddam Hussein had stuff buried in another country and the rest of it went on a barge to North Korea he broke one arms embargo after another I will finish reading the rest of it but I think you're wrong on all things definitely Yugoslavia you're definitely totally wrong a priest and the phantom of crusader broke that story and he wasn't paid off or a criminal his name was father grunner lots of genocide committed there by the Serbia you weren't in with the Russians then I was they lost their Muslim connections worldwide I saw diminish myself you should get back to believing in America as I read and I find things wrong I will correct you here because you are totally wrong they used to know terrorism before it happened they stopped under Yeltsin they used to train people they were in the drug dealing they were the most evils empire ever I had privy into some of those matters and I'll let you know that guy you like over there Putin wouldn't even help out his own cousin if he needed $1,000 for surgery he's garbage
+13 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing Politicsclove 2022-07-23 08:29
Wouldn't it be nice if there were even one western actor/politician who championed the just cause? Sadly, I can think of none.
+3 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing PoliticsForrest Mosby 2022-07-23 09:53
Quoting ivymac:
Wouldn't it be nice if there were even one western actor/politician who championed the just cause? Sadly, I can think of none.


Ike was about the last one I could name
+3 # Presidentsell 2022-07-23 10:45
I am thinking jfk is on the top of my list…that is why they killed him, and then I go way back to pre Lincoln. Lincoln did more to damage our country than most. Many don’t realize we are seeing the same story play out in Ukraine. Pre Lincoln, it was always stated that if any state wanted to leave they could, just like Crimea, and Donbass. This was a big loss for state’s rights and a move to an out of control federal government.
+3 # RE: PresidentsForrest Mosby 2022-07-23 10:52
Quoting ell:
I am thinking jfk is on the top of my list…that is why they killed him, and then I go way back to pre Lincoln. Lincoln did more to damage our country than most. Many don’t realize we are seeing the same story play out in Ukraine. Pre Lincoln, it was always stated that if any state wanted to leave they could, just like Crimea, and Donbass. This was a big loss for state’s rights and a move to an out of control federal government.


The Great Ape Lincoln was the first traitorous POTUS…When he suspended Habeas Corpus, The Republic died
+2 # RE: PresidentsEddamnit 2022-07-23 12:49
And Lincoln created the first income tax and set the president to enslave all Americans forever.
+1 # here they (YOU) comeSuperSoul1971 2022-07-23 08:13
with PCR and Nyquist (and any other "experts") links and quotes, and your own confabulations to completely contradict and dispel the above piece by Mr Lavrov, and tell us what the evil Russkies are REALLY about and up to. And the there will be those who rant & scream "the russkies should just nuke em, nuke everybody, why dont they do something" even coming from PCR... read it again. Maybe they are not so damn stupid as to walk into a plotted trap to descend the world into chaos out of which the next wonderful thing can emerge from. Some of the same who are crying for a world annihilation war, will be the first to beg for peace at any cost once it comes to their neighborhood. Too many movies. "oh, it'll be FUN" This isnt speed chess, and the stakes are deadly high. I believe you'll get ur war, but wont be glad and wont get any satisfaction. You won't know what befell all the fckt up people that u wanted taken out. You'll just be surviving in place and miserable with no one good coming to relieve you.
+18 # RE: Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing PoliticsGunner 2022-07-23 07:38
The Western greed and antics are just unbelievable, disgusting and wrong. The thing is now we the American people are getting a hefty dose of our own medicine. The rat-bastards are now in the process of Destroying our country.
+4 # MultipolarKing Goro 2022-07-23 07:08
The "Multipolar World" line is straight from the WEF and Klaus Schwab.
+1 # RE: MultipolarForrest Mosby 2022-07-23 12:04
Quoting Svetlana Lavrova:
The "Multipolar World" line is straight from the WEF and Klaus Schwab.


So is the constant, repetitive use of the term ‘racist’…When those of a certain mindset (dim/libs for ex)cannot easily rebut a fact, or dont want to bother looking up facts, they manage to throw in the term as a distraction..

“The Force is a powerful influence on the weak of mind”..( Thanks and a tip-of-the-hat to Obi-Wan)
+4 # About WEFnexus 2022-07-23 10:18
WEF, just like any other ponzi derive their value by others buying into their narrative.

As long as the masses don't think for themselves the WEF narrative will hold true.

The best form of government is maximum decentralization and individual responsibility, however that requires constant effort by the common person. And the common people are busy and preoccupied with all kinds of other mundane things - thus they become steerable like a flock of sheep.

If one were to marry the concept of Ancient Greek city states + the principles from the Enlightenment laid out by the Founding Fathers >> that would be as close to a perfect government as possible.
+10 # Bible prophecyFewThereBe 2022-07-23 08:58
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There is going to be one-world rule and a one-world ruler, according to the Bible.

All of the rich men are in it together: Putin, OBiden, Trump, DeSantis,; and, of course Barry Soetoro hiding in the background....there are no exclusions.

Better to trust in the Lord and escape via the strait gate and narrow way, the only way Jesus gave us.

BeSureYouAreSaved.com
-1 # you mean "dead", right?SuperSoul1971 2022-07-23 09:04
escape via the strait gate and narrow way

escape?? that would be departure from this place.... let's get real, all ye who are always talking about escape via the strait gate and narrow way, always sounds like someplace HERE... escape via the strait gate and narrow way there is no place HERE, to escape to ... stop promising that THIS isnt the good place, it's the realm, the land of the dying
-1 # thank you, swetlanaSuperSoul1971 2022-07-23 08:15
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-29 # Why Post This ?GQHTRS2021 2022-07-23 06:52
This entire article is nothing more than Both The Chinese Communist Party & Russian Communist Propaganda & Talking Points, " Hanoi Jane" would be pleased that you have followed in her foot steps of spreading Communist Propaganda & supporting The Communist Enemies that are looking to Invade The U.S., kill all Americans & Colonize The U.S. as The New China & Russia.
+7 # RE: Why Post This ?FewThereBe 2022-07-23 09:11
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You could always take it up with God. It will be God using Russia and others to destroy America-Babylon.

We turned on the Lord after receiving all His blessings, now we are going receive all the curses until we are utterly destroyed. (Deut chapter 28).

We are an apostate church through-and-through. Nobody believes they have to take up their own personal cross and enter in at the strait gate, and walk the narrow way, to the END.

The vast majority of Christians have been told just a "sincere sinner's prayer" will save them.

Or recite a verse here, or confess a verse there.

Romans 10:13 and John 3:16 are favorites of the ravening wolves in sheep's clothing.

For a guide to authentic salvation: BeSureYouAreSaved.com

I didn't write it; just passing it along.
-4 # FEWTHEREBEGQHTRS2021 2022-07-23 15:18
You are under Satan Influence & you don't even realize it, You are Not alone every idiot that is spouting the Pro-Putin Propaganda is also under Satan Influence .
+6 # Sadly Accurate. Sadly Comparisional.Doug Brown 2022-07-23 11:10
When Moses led the people out of Egypt
the followers of Moses were almost instantly
confronted by miracles.
DAILY SUBSTANTIAL MIRACLES.
1. Red Sea parted.
2. Pillar of fire by night.
3. Pillar of cloud by day.
4. And a bit later, Food called manna,
dispersed daily.

The people were daily surrounded by these
miracles, which lasted incidentially,
until Joshua crossed the Jordan some 40
Years later.
The followers of Moses blew it.
The followers of Moses sadly are so much
like us here in America. We have been
surrounded by blessings as well.
1. Freedom.
2. A lack of want.
Our, Pillar of fire by night and our pillar of
cloud by day.

We, like the jews, blew it.
Not thankful.
No humility.
Not even a hint of repentance.
Not a trace of humility.
Seeking after every perversion.
Even...legitimizing every perversion.
Killing our kids for concenience.
Justifying killing our kids.
The judgements coming are not undeserved
The judgements will not be undeserved.

What happened then should of been
instructional to us.
But we abandoned God's word.
But that's why the Bible was to be our teacher.
God attempted showing us by teaching us about the
us what happens when we disobey,
like what happened to the
disrespectful jews. Our example!!
We, as a nation, have turned our back
on God.
Nothing good can come of it.
Nothing good will cone of it.
-4 # RE: Sadly Accurate. Sadly Comparisional.Eddamnit 2022-07-23 12:51
Like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Moses served Satan as all Abrahamists do to this day.
+3 # That comment .....EdamnitDoug Brown 2022-07-23 14:23
That's why we are in the fix
we are in right now.
Total Biblical illiteracy.
Atheism has it's consequences, i
mean, look at America right now.
# case in pointSuperSoul1971 2022-07-23 08:16
here they (YOU) come with PCR and Nyquist (and any other "experts") links and quotes, and your own confabulations to completely contradict and dispel the above piece by Mr Lavrov,

 

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