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Swedish Media Outlet Publishes Claimed U.S. Document Outlining How to CRUSH Europe Economy thru Ukraine War Effort

Swedish Media Outlet Publishes Claimed U.S. Document Outlining How to CRUSH Europe Economy thru Ukraine War Effort

Nya Dagbladet, a media outlet in Sweden, has published what it says appears to be classified US plans to crush the European economy by means of a war in Ukraine and an induced energy crisis.

Nya Dagbladet goes on to report as follows:

RAND Corporation’s think tank, which has a huge work force of 1,850 employees and a budget of $350 million, has the official aim of “improving policies and decision-making through research and analysis”. It is primarily connected to the United States Department of Defense and is infamous for having been influential in the development of military and other strategies during the Cold War.

A document signed RAND, under the opening heading of “Weakening Germany, strengthening the U.S.”, suggests that there is an “urgent need” for an influx of resources from outside to maintain the overall American economy, but “especially the banking system”.

Only European countries bound by EU and NATO commitments can provide us with these without significant military and political costs for us.”

According to RAND, the main obstacle to this ambition is the growing independence of Germany. Among other things, it points out that Brexit has given Germany greater independence and made it more difficult for the United States to influence the decisions of European governments.

A key objective that permeates this cynical strategy is, in particular, to destroy the cooperation between Germany and Russia, as well as France, which is seen as the greatest economic and political threat to the United States.

If implemented, this scenario will eventually turn Europe into not only an economic, but also a political competitor to the United States.”, it declares.

The only way: “Draw both sides into war with Ukraine”

In order to crush this political threat, a strategic plan, primarily focused on destroying the German economy, is presented.

Stopping Russian deliveries could create a systematic crisis that would be devastating for the German economy and indirectly for the European Union as a whole”, it states, and believes that the key is to draw the European countries into war.

The only possible way to ensure that Germany rejects Russian energy supplies is to draw both sides into the military conflict in Ukraine. Our continued actions in this country will inevitably lead to a military response from Russia. Russia is clearly not going to leave to the massive Ukrainian army’s pressure on the Donetsk People’s Republic without a military response. This would make it possible to portray Russia as the aggressive party and then implement the entire package of sanctions, which has already been drawn up”.

Green parties will force Germany to “fall into the trap”

The green parties in Europe are described as being particularly easy to manipulate into running the errands of American imperialism.

The prerequisite for Germany to fall into this trap is the dominant role of green parties and European ideologies. The German environmental movement is a highly dogmatic, if not fanatical, movement, which makes it quite easy to get them to ignore economic arguments”, it writes, citing the current foreign minister of Germany, Annalena Baerbock, and the climate minister, Robert Habeck, as examples of this type of politician.

Personal characteristics and lack of professionalism make it possible to assume that it is impossible for them to recognise their own mistakes in time. I will therefore be sufficient to rapidly form a media image of Putin’s aggressive war – and make the Greens into ardent and tough supporters of sanctions – a ‘war party’. This will make it possible to impose the sanctions without any obstacles”.

Baerbock is, i.a., well known for declaring that she will continue the suspension of Russian gas even during the winter – regardless of what her constituents think about the matter and the consequences for the German population.

– We will stand with Ukraine, and this means that the sanctions will stay, also in winter time – even if it gets really tough for politicians, she said at a conference in Prague recently.

“Ideally – a complete halt of supplies”

The authors express a hope that the damage between Germany and Russia will be so great that it will make it impossible for the countries to re-establish normal relations later on.

A reduction in Russian energy supplies – ideally, a complete halt of such supplies– would lead to disastrous outcomes for German industry. The need to divert significant amounts of Russian gas for winter heating will further exacerbate the shortages. Lockdowns in industrial enterprises would cause shortages of components and spare parts for manufacturing, a breakdown of logistics chains and, eventually, a domino effect”.

Ultimately, a total collapse of the economy in Europe is seen as both probable and desirable.

Not only will it deliver a devastating blow to the German economy, the entire economy of the entire EU economy will inevitably collapse.

It further points out that the benefits of US-based companies having less competition on the world market, logistical advantages and the outflow of capital from Europe, would mean that they would be able to contribute to the economy of the United States by an estimated 7-9 trillion dollars. In addition, it also emphasises the important effect of many well-educated and young Europeans being be forced to immigrate to the USA.

RAND denies originating the report

RAND Corporation issued a press release on Wednesday denying that the report originates from them. No comments are made regarding what parts of the report are false or what is accurate, apart from simply writing that the content is “bizarre” and that the document is “fake””.

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+1 # WOW!gravedigergary 2022-09-18 12:34
It looks like history is repeating itself again, and Germany will once again be a force to reckon with, and against the U.S They will be forced to rearm quickly, and be the big power in Europe. Germany always was ahead of us technologically and had super weapons that could have won the war, if they had come out with them much sooner. I would not be surprised, if they have been hiding new super weapons for some time now. Maybe laser weapons and other new technologies. This will no doubt cause Germany and France and some other countries to unite against the US, and maybe Herbert W Armstrong was right decades ago, saying that Germany is the modern Assyrians of Bible , and in Isaiah 10, it says the Assyrian will be used as the rod of God's anger to come against a hypocritical nation that passes oppressive decrees, and punish Israelites. (America, and English speaking nations, and Judah). It seems to be falling into place. German is to head a ten nation Beast power with the Beast and False prophet, who does lying wonders and signs, deceiving the peoples. After America taken into captivity for 3 1/2 yrs, the wrath of Yahwah God day of His wrath comes down on the world and especially the Beast power, with the 7 last plagues, and the final battle , when all the armies of Europe and Russia and China meet near Jerusalem and they see God as an alien force. They then fight the glorified Christ and He destroys them with one breath!!! Rev 19. After than, He returns and has a powerful angel to banish Satan and his demons for 1000 yrs, and then world peace and healing under the literal world government of Yah and Yahshua, with the saints whoare resurrected and made immortal, but many will have been beheaded and martyred, or in prisons. Hal, I don't know is I will be a saint made immortal. But, i hope so. I know God has not been using thousands of denominations to "save" this world. Most all never heard the truth, or understood it. I'm a sick sinner old bachelor, and poor now, but I hope for the kingdom to come soon. My brother is in the prison you were forced to go to. I'm really tired of this evil corrupted society and life, and would not mind if He lets me go to sleep soon, to rest from my hard life, awaiting the resurrection. Nothing but bad news until our Maker finally returns.
# RE: Swedish Media Outlet Publishes Claimed U.S. Document Outlining How to CRUSH Europe Economy thru Ukraine War Effortjrd803 2022-09-17 11:11
A copy of the original document cited is at:
https://www.riotimesonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/rand-corporation-ukraina-energikris.pdf

It is hard to tell if it is real or not...but if so, these pages are just the front matter (or part of it) to the report as the actual report is numbered with arabic numerals, e.g., 1, 2, 3, etc.

Examples of actual Rand publications can be found on sites like academia.edu

An example of a recent (2020) Rand publication is at:
https://www.academia.edu/85451348/Deterrence_in_the_Age_of_Thinking_Machines


Kippis
+1 # RE: Swedish Media Outlet Publishes Claimed U.S. Document Outlining How to CRUSH Europe Economy thru Ukraine War Effortthesloth 2022-09-17 03:06
I support the Russian position in this Ukrainian civil war, but this document seems like a Russisn disimformation fabrication. It's to clean and obvious.
+2 # Off Topic, but InterestingOccamsRazor 2022-09-17 01:24
Is the UN causing Chaos so that people will be looking to the Christ for deliverance? Seems this has been part of their plan, but instead of the Christ it will actually be the Anti-Christ. Interesting read on the UN Religion:

Crises, as we know from our own direct experience, serve as great spiritual opportunities, challenging us to move ever closer to our own inner divinity. Thus, the pending intensification of planetary crises will serve to test and prepare humanity for the unprecedented and imminent opportunity in which millions may tread the path of initiation.

We are told in fact, that this is one of the reasons why the Christ must reappear at this time. For it is He who officiates at the first two initiations, which once again-as in Old Atlantis-will be openly commemorated on the physical plane.


What they call "initiations" I call Instigations!

http://www.aquaac.org/un/SRI24mar01.html

https://whiteaf3.substack.com/p/the-uns-pagan-meditation-room-runes

Even some of the "Elect" are deceived.
# IndeedSBGlett77 2022-09-17 08:27
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That's a very interesting little tidbit from the UN you found there. It's kind of a pseudo-intellectual universal expression of what's in the hearts of those who think they can save themselves through their own will, works, and pride. Them bringing Christ-words into their mumbo-jumbo is an attempt to bring in legitimacy with the part of the Christian world that does not know Him, nor does He know them. They do not deceive the truly elect; it's not possible, but many of those who presume they are saved without a personal contrite relationship with Jesus ( God the Son ), will definitely be deceived.

This isn't really off-topic, is it, Occam ? All this confusion and chaos, such as this leaked paper ( fake or not ) introduces, does indeed seem to be leading up to something worldwide that is unsolvable except for some "unifying strongman" coming on the scene: the evil one. How soon this culminates is the big question, but it is definitely getting close.

As painful as it must have been to wade through all this UN garbage language, it makes it an informative blessing to the rest of us when you find a nugget like this. I appreciate your bringing it to light. I hope you take a break from it once in awhile. Hal surely goes through the same stress in what he has to comb through daily.
+3 # Nya DagbladetNikisky 2022-09-17 01:10
Thank you, Hal for all you do. If a Swedish, Norwegian, or Danish name comes up again, "a" and "e" are short vowels: ah as in father and eh as in bet. "Y" is a quick ooee sound, but you can get away with a long ee as in seek. Nya Dagbladet = Nee ya Dahg blahd eht. It means "new daily magazine",
+1 # No one will be left to mourn.Gregg W 2022-09-17 00:34
When America goes down, people will be shocked but not sad. They will know how rotten and evil this government and corporation leaders have been.
Many will say, “Good riddance”.

How pathetic an end.
+3 # Regarding Rand Corpstandingwave 2022-09-16 22:04
I have made several comments below after studying the alleged Rand document. My comments were based upon my knowledge of Rand, which is admittedly (many) decades old. I have just spent some time on their website. Based upon what I have seen in a brief survey there, I need to report that the assessments I made below are based upon the Rand Corp. of yesteryear and are likely not relevant today.
+1 # God blessSBGlett77 2022-09-17 08:33
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It's a humble man who can critique his own opinions and comments. I learned a real lesson today for myself.

You might say my own standing wave ratio just improved.
# RE: Regarding Rand Corpstandingwave 2022-09-16 22:30
I have an original copy of one of their first publications: " Preliminary Design of an Experimental World-Circling Spacecraft", 1946. It showed great foresight.

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/special_memoranda/2006/SM11827part1.pdf

It is painful to see what Rand has become today.
# RE: Swedish Media Outlet Publishes Claimed U.S. Document Outlining How to CRUSH Europe Economy thru Ukraine War EffortWoulf 2022-09-16 22:01
The aforementioned "important effect of many well-educated and young Europeans being forced to immigrate to the USA".
They are not "diversity hires" so there goes that. Tell me I'm wrong.
# YoutubeSrmay72 2022-09-16 21:05
I earl Grey had a good video about this 2days ago, sorry don't have the link. He does a great Russian news daily from st Petersburg russia
-5 # VaselineRealAmericanPride 2022-09-16 18:00
Europe needs to stock up on it, not only for their cornhole but will help protect their noses and ears from frostbite. Oh wait it’s a petroleum product, and tptb won’t allow that would they?
-8 # The Destruction Only Lasts Seven YearsDolph 2022-09-16 17:18
Because in seven years Christ will be ruling this world from Jerusalem and will want to keep the damage and cleanup to a minimum as the Millennium begins, imho.

... and the A/C's kingdom lasts only the last 3 1/2 years of the tribulation and is likely to be limited to the boundaries of the old Roman Empire and so a large part of the world won't be forced to take the mark or receive much damage, imho. My guess is that God will protect Europe from major damage and limit the overall damage to much less than most generally expect.

I have a hunch that God is going to stretch things out politically the next 3 1/2 years until the A/C takes power. There are many Christian prophecies that say Trump will be back in office for a short period of time. There could be a false peace that springs the A/C into power and people will begin to relax. The elites may use Trump again to sell the financial reset and even throw several hundred politicians in jail, followed by a very short war with the elites caving in to the Russians, stabbing us in the back.

Duduman named four American states/cities that would be nuked, a Russian invasion and the Chinese attacking Russia with Japan and others and rolling to the gates of Paris. This would cause the Russians to pull out of America prematurely to save their own country.

Finally, Duduman was told that Russia would join China and attack straight south to the Battle of Armageddon in Israel. That's when God steps in and saves Israel and begins His millennium reign.

Don't get me wrong, we have seven rough years ahead of us with famine, earthquakes and much more, but our country, I believe stays in tack but with much loss of life.

Note, during the Antichrist's 3 1/2 year reign he will be busy at war with kings of the North and the East, Dan.11:44. That ties in nicely with what Duduman was told, above.

When you understand that Christ will rule the world from Jerusalem for the next 1,000 years and then for eternity when New Jerusalem comes down with the Father, it gives us great hope this earth will not be turned into an ash dump of nuclear waste.
# Another Reason America Could SurviveDolph 2022-09-17 13:06
Biden's visit to the West Bank several weeks ago was an implicit approval/blessing by the US to divide Israel opening the door for God to fulfill the plethora of Christian prophecies saying God would split America down the Mississippi when we approved the splitting of Israel. Some have seen the Great Lakes become one large gulf that extended down the Mississippi and up the St. Lawrence River to the Atlantic.

This would so weaken the country that our evil president would allow UN troops to enter under the guise of disaster relief. The foreign workers would soon morph into a occupation Russian army.

Duduman saw Chinese troops rolling across Russia to the gates of Paris. This could cause an early evacuation of Russian troops to rescue their motherland and, hence, lessoning atomic fallout and destruction.

This may be one way the earth could be spared from becoming an atomic waste land before Christ sets up his world government in Israel after one third of the Jews become Christians upon seeing the holes in Christ's hands.

Many believe that after the rapture their will be a short but great revival with people repenting and becoming Christians which may cause God to lessen the destruction of this beautiful earth.
# Check out UN Partition planoak2022 2022-09-17 16:07
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/d8/76/fdd87662ee0ee7d7326e63fe55056520.jpg
# Not there yet.MildB 2022-09-16 17:25
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The next event will be the Harpazo Effect, which will remove ALL RESTRAINTS.
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2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
# WHY IS THIS NOTNZ KIWI 2022-09-16 17:00
FRONT PAGE OF ALL THE PRESSITUTE RAGS BBC INCLUDED
# RE: WHY IS THIS NOTEddamnit 2022-09-17 01:52
Hmmm...
It must be true.
-1 # Here's the 404 ArticlePaul Kurzlee 2022-09-16 15:45
Germany seized the local unit of Russian oil major Rosneft PJSC as Berlin moves to take sweeping control of its energy industry, secure supplies and sever decades of deep dependence on Moscow for fuel.

Alongside its THEFT of the Rosneft unit, Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s administration is in advanced talks to take over Uniper SE and two other major gas importers, Bloomberg reported on Thursday. Germany is pressing ahead with an historic overhaul of its economy just two and half years after the Covid-19 pandemic, outright stealing a huge chunk of its industrial base to prevent shortages and blackouts this winter.

A decision on the next moves could come within days. The need for action is urgent with Uniper losing 100 million euros ($99.7 million) a day as it tries to replace Russian gas to maintain deliveries to local utilities and manufacturers.

“Over the next few months, we’ll have to continue to preserve critical infrastructure in order to achieve energy independence,” said Verena Hubertz, a leading lawmaker for Scholz’s Social Democrats. “Further measures will follow.”
+1 # They Are Still Buying Russian Oil and GasDolph 2022-09-16 17:02
... but it's going through Turkey and India. Only the the oil giants profit and the new middle men.
+3 # feign inside a feign inside a feign...Dudimus Maximus 2022-09-16 14:27
...if there is ever intel that the Russian people are taking to the civil defense and bunkers, and communication with them goes down... know that you have minutes
+2 # RE: feign inside a feign inside a feign...Forrest Mosby 2022-09-16 17:56
Quoting Boo_Radley:
...if there is ever intel that the Russian people are taking to the civil defense and bunkers, and communication with them goes down... know that you have minutes


“Feint”?
# RE: feign inside a feign inside a feign...Forrest Mosby 2022-09-16 17:56
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
Quoting Boo_Radley:
...if there is ever intel that the Russian people are taking to the civil defense and bunkers, and communication with them goes down... know that you have minutes


“Feint”?


JW
+2 # NATO =daniel_martin 2022-09-16 14:09
Germany down and Russia Out. Theres no good outcome from this. Those 3rd world countries that white people look down and cant find in the map will sound like heaven. Very soon. I mean, if you dodge the nukes
# Russia Out?Dolph 2022-09-16 17:07
Russia has been doing very well but inviting in Chinese troops is not the perfect marriage. But wars make strange bedfellows! Duduman was told the Chinese will roll across them to the gates of Paris.
# we also need to prayAravinda 2022-09-17 17:06
for the chinese people, who are good people, who have been destroyed by communism instigated by the deep state. they are rising up and rejecting communism in huge numbers. the epoch times has very good info on this.

the beautiful shen yun tour titled this years tour china before communism and is educating the world on what a beautiful culture the chinese had before they were destroyed.

people in america need to realize we are operating under communism as well, just read the 10 planks of the communist manifesto. the problem here is there are millions of bureaucrats and others who support this evil and are the real insurrectionists who have replaced our constitutional republic with a sick welfare police state.

the rest refuse to educate themselves and demand the supreme law of the land remain supreme and honor our founders, who gave everything for us, and birthed our God given nation, so our posterity will remain free.
# russia and chinaAravinda 2022-09-17 16:59
share a very very large border so there must be diplomacy and careful strategy planning by russia. they know china can not be trusted.
+1 # Double crossoak2022 2022-09-17 16:12
The Chi Coms will turn against the Russians. I assume Putin knows this already.
+1 # AND .....just WHAT is happening to EUNHydg 2022-09-16 13:37
It seems the overall fate to EU is a collapse ......which ALL of which could have been avoided via a "sit down" with Russia and an OPEN EYED view of what is going down. A minimal clean up in Ukraine sure seems a better option ....... EVERYONE knew that Ukraine was corrupt . . . . EXCEPT the CORRUPT U.S. govmnt, which was laundering monies and goods via Ukraine's cocaine soaked gov. . . . . . . We know where Hunter gets his massive supply.
+4 # What the EU empire wantscarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-09-16 15:58
is an army of its own. For "force projection".
President Ursula von Leyen was German Defence Minister.
Germany does not want to give arms to NATO and Ukraine.
It has stated it will increase defence spending - on its own armies.

Getting rid of old weapons - then re-equipping with new ones is EXACLTY what Leyen wants. New armies under EU direct control - NOT NATO.
+5 # I read this report last weekJessiebeaner 2022-09-16 13:27
Will try to find it. Am sure I forwarded it to someone.Moral of the story…..”you are a damn fool to hook your wagon to the USA….FOR ANY REASON.”
+6 # RE: Swedish Media Outlet Publishes Claimed U.S. Document Outlining How to CRUSH Europe Economy thru Ukraine War EffortEddamnit 2022-09-16 13:20
I've seen how evil can seize a person and move them to commit terrible acts.
These people are under the power of the Wicked One, looking for ways to do evil, to hurt others.
They do not have any redeemable virtues.
+5 # Demons Are RealDolph 2022-09-16 19:40
One third of Jesus' healings were deliverance, casting out demons.
+3 # a good read daily!!!Turnercom1 2022-09-16 13:17
https://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index4038.htm
-1 # Turnercom1, AmenDolph 2022-09-16 19:44
I never miss a day of Sorcha Faal/What does it mean.
+3 # Turning into a Meat GrinderOccamsRazor 2022-09-16 13:48
Wagner Group Recruiting Prisoners offering them Redemption if they Survive 6months. That's Russian Roulette. I wonder what % of Russian Prisoners go join the "Dirty Dozen" suicide squad.
+1 # Read daily389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-16 13:24
Haha…actual title of news item at this site…

Terrorist Regime Headed By Comedian Ignites Battle For End Of History

*yeah, this site is gonna be fun ;-)
+6 # Hum? In this recording, Hitler talks about various war-related developments, like his failed invasion of theMildB 2022-09-16 13:01
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- Soviet Union. Most amusingly is how awe-struck he sounds when talking about the Red Army’s ability to make vast amounts of armaments:

“If one of my generals had told me a nation could start out with 35,000 tanks, I would have said: ‘You, my good sir, you see everything twice or ten times. You are crazy; you see ghosts.’”

He also talks about his predicament trying to avoid a war on two fronts, and how weather and bad timing seriously impacted his strategic decisions. Very cool, introspective slice of history, if you ask me.

listen for yourself, The Hitler and Mannerheim Recording in Finland, June 4, 1942 (Subtitles)

The conversation is about Hitler explaining the failure of Operation Barbarossa, Italian defeats in North Africa, Yugoslavia, and Albania, armaments in the Soviet Union, and Romanian petroleum wells.

Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim
Hitler Meets Mannerheim Monologue (Subtitles)
Hitler Speaking Normally (Subtitles)
Hitler secretly recorded in Finland, June 4, 1942
Only known recording of Hitler speaking in an unofficial tone
+11 # RE: Swedish Media Outlet Publishes Claimed U.S. Document Outlining How to CRUSH Europe Economy thru Ukraine War EffortMSNews 2022-09-16 12:57
So, the rand corps denied the report as bizarre content and is a fake!

Then why has every action taken place by both eu and us done precisely as stated in the document.

Remember the us dollar and economy will sink into the abyss, no longer the world reserve currency. The us-banksters-govt elected and unelected criminals-corporations have stolen the wealth of not only the us worker but workers worldwide. In addition to all the slaughter of millions for resources and hedgemony. The us govt cia cannot allow this to happen.

This motivation is clearly evident in the rand document. the document is true, and so are the us govt cia evil intentions.
+9 # Who cares if it is fake ?carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-09-16 12:50
So, it is opportunistic murder instead of premeditated.
The USA is crushing the EU - as we speak - so it is deliberate.
Selling LNG to the EU at 7 times the cost of Russian gas.
+4 # Who cares…389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-16 12:59
Epic money laundering scheme..
+2 # RE: Who cares…carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-09-16 15:43
The USA fracked gas takes more energy to drill for than is recovered.

The EU money is a subsidy.
# FrackingWoulf 2022-09-16 21:44
When you "live" on a "limestone strata" and "frack", you get "sinkholes", mess up the "ground water" and generally make a mess. Ever seen a big sinkhole? It is "interresting" unless it is "your house" at the "bottom". Think of it as climbing as tree and going out on a branch and "sawing it off".
Unless you are planing on selling "purified water" to the people involved. It will be easier to sell when you pay someone off to say it is "clean". Never mind a few "rads" or a little "heavy metal".
+2 # RE: Swedish Media Outlet Publishes Claimed U.S. Document Outlining How to CRUSH Europe Economy thru Ukraine War EffortRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-09-16 12:29
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Here's a link to the German takeover of the Russian gas company:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/germany-seizes-control-russian-owned-oil-refineries-ahead-looming-eu-deadline
+6 # Fake News Strategycodeblue 2022-09-16 12:26
American media have been slandering anyone who gets off script with fake news that they later retract. For example, the story that Trump stole nuclear secrets for the Russians. Whoever put this RAND corp document out there knew it would do some harm, fake or not.
+3 # RE: Swedish Media Outlet Publishes Claimed U.S. Document Outlining How to CRUSH Europe Economy thru Ukraine War EffortRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-09-16 12:20
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If true, then why are we shipping LNG to Europe? $$$?

If false, it sure rings true...
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+2 # The documentLast Stand 2022-09-16 12:15
Here's the document, I noticed this several days ago:

Newly Leaked Report From Rand Corporation Reveals The True Motives Behind European Destabilization & The Russia/Ukraine War

https://redpill78.substack.com/p/newly-leaked-report-from-rand-corporation?sd=pf

If this is true, it's not Russia you have to worry about, but rather Germany & Europe!
+8 # Same Old, Same OldDolph 2022-09-16 12:06
This is exactly what the Brits did in the first two World Wars. It worked twice before so it's a proven strategy. Surprised it has gotten this far again. Just proves what a strangle hold they have had on the Europeans' MSM and the political whores. Europe was a basket case after both world wars and it was like taking candy from a baby. Same old color revolutions. Satan's dirty tricks of using wars to control the masses. Payoffs to control the MSM and a dozen politicians and you win.

The Bible says the whole world is corrupt; the whole world is deceived; Satan is the prince of this world and man has a fallen nature. But nobody reads God's Plan For Man. As Frank Sin atra sang, "I did it my way." Jesus said, "I am the WAY, the truth and the life.
+10 # Where Are The Statesmen?Dolph 2022-09-16 12:19
Where are the Washingtons, the Jeffersons, the Lincolns, the Ronald Reagans?

The banksters grabbed the national bank in 1913, then the MSM, Hollywood, Wall Street. These aren't Christians, they are antichrists. In fact they killed Christ and all the prophets 2,000 years ago, 1Thes.2:15. Helloooo?

Satan is a liar, Jesus is the Truth. There's no middle ground. If you're not for Christ you're working for the devil. Choose you this day who you will serve. Saying you believe in God and that Jesus rose from the dead doesn't make you a Christian. "Those who are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God."
-6 # RE: Where Are The Statesmen?Eddamnit 2022-09-16 13:25
Christians are pagans anyway, trying to serve evil and good at the same time.
Their souls are forfeit .
+4 # Choose you this day389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-16 12:46
Dolph, now you’re firing on all cylinders ;-)

Preach the Word ! Time is short, the harvest is plentiful, the workers are few …
-1 # YesKarGiver 2022-09-16 11:44
I posted at the top level, too, and others have reported the same issue under that.

P.S. Meant this to be a response to ActionFrank
+7 # 404ActionFrank 2022-09-16 11:38
The next article on Germany seizing Russian oil wont come up. Only shows 404! Anyone else have the same issue? Hal's prob getting hacked again
# RE: 404Paul Kurzlee 2022-09-16 15:43
Quoting ActionFrank:
The next article on Germany seizing Russian oil wont come up. Only shows 404! Anyone else have the same issue? Hal's prob getting hacked again

It was doing that 404 here all morning now it is working. Only one comment was there so everyone must be getting this. Kind of a strange article to fuck with because there aint much in it.
# #404debbifaye 2022-09-16 12:03
https://www.foxnews.com/world/germany-seizes-control-russian-owned-oil-refineries-ahead-looming-eu-deadline

It was in SQ headlines.
# 404 for other articleMrdemaria 2022-09-16 11:52
Dies that mean Hal took it down?
# No takedownnotme 2022-09-16 15:16
still there for me. Maybe provider filtering?

Made backups for you guys:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220916190950/https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/germany-seizes-russian-gas-company-rosneft

https://archive.ph/Qd1TK
-3 # Available evidence indicates ...standingwave 2022-09-16 11:35
Available evidence indicates the document is a fake.

First and foremost:
The Rand Corporation is known as a "paper mill". The only products it produces are reports in the written word. This being the case, not only does Rand hire analysts, but it hires professional copy editors.

The following link leads to the document in question:
https://aeronet.news/wp-content/uploads/rand-corporation-ukraine-energy-crisis.pdf

The document uses a conversational tone, is poorly and unprofessionally written, and contains grammatical errors. I do not believe it would have ever made it past the copy editors. I conclude the document is fake based upon this alone.

Second reason, though weaker:

FFRDCs like Rand, at least "back in the day", are instructed never to lie to journalists or the public. The accepted response when you do not want to answer is (or at least was) to say something to the effect: "We can neither confirm not deny ...". If the accusation is false, such as might be in the case of the "Weakening Germany" document, they are free to declare it so.

I this case, Rand has declared the document to be fake:
https://www.rand.org/news/press/2022/09/14.html
+4 # Conversational, poorly written389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-16 12:01
Good points but here’s some back story…
Many executives are in positions of importance because of their skills that are needed for a certain function within the company….not because of their skills in communication, grammar, etc. They hire administrative staff for that.
This might be an early phase document that has not gone through the “clean up channels “ yet…just sayin



*Pres. Andrew Jackson, notorious for his poor spelling, was known to have “no respect “ for those who could only spell a word one way ;-)
+1 # 389rivka: Good Laugh!Dolph 2022-09-17 11:54
*Pres. Andrew Jackson, notorious for his poor spelling, was known to have “no respect “ for those who could only spell a word one way ;-)
-2 # RE: Conversational, poorly writtenstandingwave 2022-09-16 12:21
I wondered about that, but I am inclined to think not. If it really had been some sort of internal rough draft, it died on the vine (ie. had no internal backing). Another thing is that while the analysts do need copy editors to clean up their reports, they do not have a mind set to use vague terms like "we" and "they" even in a draft. They identify subjects explicitly. If I had to put money on it, I would still say the report is fake.
# Fake report ??389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-16 12:55
If so…look at the long shelf life that
“Golden Shower Dossier “
has had….just sayin
+1 # Clearly a RAND documentcarlireland34@gmail.com 2022-09-16 11:30
Why not ask RAND - do you publish all documents ?
When not published - is leaked - do you deny their authenticity ?
Are you paid to lie for a living ?
# Think tanksWoulf 2022-09-16 21:57
If your "business model" is to "answer questions" for "profit". Do you tell them the "truth" or what they "want to hear"? If you want them to "come back" with "another check" next week, what would you tell them?
-6 # Are you paid to lie for a living?standingwave 2022-09-16 12:26
No, Rand is not paid to lie for a living. They are forbidden from lying because of legal issues. Remember, Rand is an FFRDC, not a government agency. It is the job of our political leaders to lie to the public, and our political leaders do not like competition from hired hands.
+4 # RE: Are you paid to lie for a living?carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-09-16 12:45
I worked for a USA company. They told the workforce they never lied.
That was a lie.
RAND is a money making company - ergo it lies.
-2 # They told the workforce they never lied.standingwave 2022-09-16 13:55
I do not disagree with your statement that they never lie. However, the lie, especially for an FFRDC, almost always takes the form of some sort of indirect deception. The official "do not lie" policy is directed more to the general research staff, who are instructed to defer to a company spokesman when asked questions by journalists or the public.

Any organization will lie if sufficiently motivated, even RAND, NASA, ... others. Consider though that an FFRDC has to survive under changing political winds, so they are reluctant to tie their fate to the ideology of one political party because they could find themselves de-funded when the opposing party returns to power. These organizations are instinctively inclined to self-preservation, and if Rand really did back the concepts in the article, it would not have been so clumsily written (IMO).

Rand has overtly repudiated the report.

Again though, the main reason for considering the document to be fake is the way it is written.
# RE: They told the workforce they never lied.carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-09-16 15:51
I cannot verify your summary. Perhaps it was a dumbed down private version - bot the publicised sort you normally see.
For a dimwitted politician.
Anyway, we know from other sources that the Ukrainian-Russian conflict was USA-NATO organised.
They have quite enough of their own scriptwriters.
# Ukraine-Russian conflictstandingwave 2022-09-16 20:28
In no way am I defending US political positions regarding the Ukraine-Russian conflict or anything else. My comments are narrowly confined to the probability the alleged Rand report is real or fake.
# Ergo…it lies389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-16 12:50
Heard a rumor the mandated tattoo was…
*I can neither confirm nor deny *

* sarc
+2 # We see it.Doug Brown 2022-09-16 11:11
The German's see it.
Europe as a whole sees it.
Russia sees it.
True or false, it's message is out there.
We are better than you.
We rule the world because we deserve to.
Its cumulative affect is nothing short than a
gigantic put-down. Both haughty and Rude.
Bottom line?
Further encouragement to war.
Further reason for war.
# Hal, 404 File Not FoundKarGiver 2022-09-16 11:05
On the German "Seizure" article after this one.
# It's Gone.northshorepaul 2022-09-16 11:29
Quoting KarGiver:
On the German "Seizure" article after this one.

I saw the headline earlier but the story has been pulled??? No longer there.
# It's gone from the list below but...KarGiver 2022-09-16 11:44
It still shows up in the "dots" on the main picture page with rotating stories.

This happened on another recent article, too, and Hal fixed it.
# 404 File389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-16 11:09
So the media scrub begins…
+9 # RE: Swedish Media Outlet Publishes Claimed U.S. Document Outlining How to CRUSH Europe Economy thru Ukraine War Effortgrash 2022-09-16 11:05
“And a final word to you arrogant rich:
Take some lessons in lament. You’ll
need buckets for the tears when the
crash comes upon you. Your money
is corrupt and your fine clothes stink.
Your greedy luxuries are a cancer in
your gut, destroying your life from
within. You thought you were piling
up wealth. What you’ve piled up is
judgment.”
‭‭ “All the workers you’ve exploited and
cheated cry out for judgment. The
groans of the workers you used and
abused are a roar in the ears of the
Master Avenger. You’ve looted the
earth and lived it up. But all you’ll have
to show for it is a fatter than usual
corpse. In fact, what you’ve done is
condemn and murder perfectly good
persons, who stand there and take it.

“Meanwhile, friends, wait patiently for
the Master’s Arrival. You see farmers
do this all the time, waiting for their
valuable crops to mature, patiently
letting the rain do its slow but sure
work. Be patient like that. Stay steady
and strong. The Master could arrive
at any time.”
‭‭James‬ ‭5:1-8‬ ‭MSG‬‬
+5 # US has been at war with Germany and Europe for yearsSnug 2022-09-16 10:57
The US has pushed for the cessation of the flow of Russian gas through Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 for many years now.

If y'all recall that's how Ukraine 2014 war started, with Ukraine stealing the gas.

It's no surprise to see CIA and consequently the US and European mindless political shills following Zionist corporate media lies into global war.

"manufactured antisemitism"
https://odysee.com/@I-Rabbi-T:3/Manufactured--Antisemitism:2


WW3 pits all whites in North America and Europe against each other.

Vaccine kill shots and WW3 follows Goyim religious dogma.
# The Commies Hate Russia and GermanyDolph 2022-09-16 16:56
Modern Russia reversed the Russian Revolution and the Germans named the Commies and the Jews. Unforgivable!
+2 # Is anyone surprised by this?northshorepaul 2022-09-16 10:49
I for one am not. We have been on the warpath economically and with arms since 1900 and nothing has changed except the actors in D.C. and Wall Street. It is time the world at large learns the U.S. government is not their friend but their adversary on all fronts. The people of the U.S. are but not those in the financial and government world. We are destroying the economies of many countries, their governments and in many cases responsible for killing ten of thousands of their citizens all in the name of "manifest destiny". Whatever happens to us we have it coming...unfortunately.
+5 # HmmmSBGlett77 2022-09-16 10:35
.
Well, fake or not, it's out there. There are going to be a lot of people who see the document as a full explanation of events they are experiencing. They may start demanding rectification, whether the document is legit or not.

Besides, even if it's not a fake, would anyone expect the RAND corp. to acknowledge an embarrassing report after it goes public ? The doctrine in such cases is ALWAYS deny, deny, deny.

The Project for a New American Century document is NOT a fake, was signed by a number of prominent Americans, and is almost as presumptive and exploitative as this one. It basically seeks to have America dominate the world in the 21st century using all kinds of subversive and plausibly deniable inhuman means. The purported RAND paper simply provides one possible means for fleshing these out.

After all, 1850 employees have to be turning out something to justify their existence !

Just in passing, I once again point out that all unrepentant liars are cast into the Lake of Fire after death ( Rev. 21:8 ). Repentance isn't something one can just switch on when one wants to, either - it takes a truly humble and contrite heart - the goodness of God leads us to repentance ( Rom 2:4 ).
+4 # This explains ...FollowTheeMoreNearly 2022-09-16 11:22
... in the vision by either Henry Gruver or Dumitru Duduman -- I can't connect all details to the correct man -- why Germany is one of the countries to join Russia in the/an attack of the United States.
It appears people in EU countries are waking up along with many sheeple in the U.S. Perhaps this is catalyst to busting up NATO.
+1 # Brain-deadNostros 2022-09-16 10:29
If the USA is playing games such as those described, every one of the people behind it needs to be shot for treason.

Actions such as these are undermining the security and goodwill of this country across the world.
+10 # The worm is turningRed Deer 2022-09-16 10:27
This is just one more example of how the world is feeling about the US. Not so much the citizens of the US but our governmental intrusion into the affairs of other countries. As counties cope with the blow back and results of US led sanctions and economic policies their press is starting to investigate the root causes of their national troubles. We are, by our own actions, alienating ourselves from the world. Yes the merchants will wail at the sight of our burning but most will say good riddance. America have perverted or allowed the perversion of almost every national institution and church theology from the Boy Scouts of America to main stream churches by the inclusion of deviancy. We have drunks, satanists and pedophiles running our courts, legislative, military and executive branches of government. We close churches and persecute the devout yet allow "entertainment" industry to flout demonic content.
+5 # Drunks, satanists and pedophiles389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-16 10:31
..in the pulpits as well.
# RAND goes STAR WARS389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-16 10:22
Nya Dagbladet & RAND :

Sandtrooper: Let me see your identification.
Ben Kenobi: (waving his hand slowly) You don't need to see his identification.
Sandtrooper: [pauses] We don't need to see his identification.
Ben Kenobi: These aren't the droids you're looking for.
Sandtrooper: These aren't the droids we're looking for.
Ben Kenobi: He can go about his business.
Sandtrooper: You can go about your business.
Ben Kenobi: Move along.
Sandtrooper: [gesturing] Move along! Move along!
-1 # Not to be dogmatic but....LilBirdie 2022-09-16 10:21
Isn't there an old prophecy that says when everything goes down the US stands alone?
Something like this could create that situation.
+1 # Israel...KarGiver 2022-09-16 10:40
The scriptural prophecy of "standing alone" in war is Israel. No one comes to her defense so it's assumed that the US has been decapitated before that.

If you're referring to a non-scriptural prophecy of some sort I'm unaware of that.
+1 # Not to be dogmatic389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-16 10:28
Hmm, I’ve heard a similar prophecy but it is Israel that stands alone, the world united against her in the final days…
+2 # I've read that, too.Burnit 2022-09-16 10:58
The world comes against Israel not because the the world is evil and Israel is righteous. The whole world is evil. Including Israel. Israel gets ALMOST wiped out. The armies of the world DO get wiped out.
That's when YHWH remembers His promise to Abraham. He is the only 'good' this world has known. IMHO.
-3 # RE: I've read that, too.Eddamnit 2022-09-16 13:43
YHWH is Satan.
# IMHO389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-16 11:06
IMHO…
In My Humble Opinion…
If, in fact, you are basing your opinion on the Word of YHWH…no need to be humble..
Be Bold, Be Strong, for the Lord thy God is with thee…amen :-)
+5 # Glad!!Burnit 2022-09-16 11:02
Glad Harnas is not allowed on anymore.....they would blow up the web page responding to that. LOL!!!
-1 # California Drought, How To Party On The TitanicWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-09-16 10:15
Climate engineering operations are cutting off the flow of moisture to the US West, how much longer can Californians last without rain? Primary reservoirs are about to run dry, Lake Shasta in Northern California is a case in point. Though there is very little water left in the lake and record wildfires are burning in regions surrounding Lake Shasta, the boat launching and recreating continues unabated. No matter how devastating and dire environmental degradation has become, there are many who are willing to ignore biosphere collapse in order to keep their personal pursuit of pleasure going till the last possible moment. Can the masses be awakened in time?
All are needed in the critical battle to wake populations to what is coming, we must make every day count. Share credible data from a credible source, make your voice heard. Awareness raising efforts can be carried out from your own home computer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnKJNvl2yI4
+1 # Scalar WavesDolph 2022-09-17 12:14
Stan Johnson is convinced that the elites use scalar waves to control the weather and to burnout all those food processing plants.
# Scalar waves389rivka@gmail.com 2022-09-17 14:49
Over the years, lots of “boots on the ground “ photos of odd bright white beams of light in areas that burst into flames in California “wildfires” …houses totally destroyed w/nearby shrubs & trees in tact. ???

*Move along, nothing to see here
+1 # Bizarre and FakeGmcclenon 2022-09-16 10:13
This is a bombshell. Let’s hope some photos or screen shots come out of this document.
# Dokumentnotme 2022-09-16 10:38
Quoting Gmcclenon:
This is a bombshell. Let’s hope some photos or screen shots come out of this document.


DL-lnk in the description:

https://youtu.be/Cz2XlcdjBck
# Here you gostandingwave 2022-09-16 10:36
https://aeronet.news/wp-content/uploads/rand-corporation-ukraine-energy-crisis.pdf
# thank youGmcclenon 2022-09-16 11:18
This reads like a public steering piece to make us think that the war in the Ukraine was fomented for the purpose of assisting the US when in fact, the most likely reason for the war is to be the first big domino in the destruction of the world economy to bring about the "Great Reset".

 

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