TRANSCRIPT: Word-for-Word; Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov to Italian media

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In November and December 2021, when Russia offered proposed security treaties for iron-clad, legally enforceable, security guarantees, over NATO's continued expansion, the reply Russia received was "It's none of your business. We will expand NATO as we wish" and "we will not ask your permission." Hardly a "diplomatic" response. So Russia entered Ukraine militarily.

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+2 # Thank You — EagleLady77 2022-05-04 16:23

Hal, thank you for this transcript. This is very valuable.

+2 # I wish we — Just_Gordo 2022-05-04 14:11

had a diplomat, appointee, or even a county representative that could convey as clear a message that could easily be verified. All we have in the U.S. is mudslinging, censoring and cancel-culture.

I am not Russian, pretty sure I will never meet one, but I have not read an article like this one for quite some time.

Even with the sudo-journalist trying to inject his own narrative.

Sure hope it is real

# RE: I wish we — mjc 2022-05-04 19:57

We've had our Heroes of the Republic.

Pompeo seemed like a good man - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pompeo
Condoleza Rice was (intellectually capable, but an academic) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice
James Baker was a Renaissance Man, and seemed to excel at this and every other office he held - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Baker
George Schultz seemed like a good quarterback and team player - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Shultz

I have nothing else positive to say for the 36 or so SoS holders in my lifetime.

But I believe the above helped the Republic.
Most of the rest seemed to fuck the Republic for personal benefit.

-4 # Question: There is a lot of speculation in the West about President Vladimir Putin’s health. — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 12:25

Quote:

Sergey Lavrov: Please ask foreign leaders who have talked with President Putin recently, including UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres. I think you will see what I mean.

Ahh, Lavrov agrees with my assessment that there is nothing wrong with Vladimir Vladimirovich's health. I have been reassuring everyone here about this fact for for several days.

It seems to me that Lavrov missed a chance to name Hal Turner for also not succumbing to these MI6-CIA ridiculous rumors! Did you not see the 15-foot-long tables at which Putin entertains foreign dignitaries all the time? The man obviously takes his health seriously and I am sure he can afford the best doctors in Russia, if not the world to take care of him!

-3 # Looks like red button IDF TROLLS are again out in full force again today, Hall! — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 14:31

Quoting Haarnaś:

Quote:
Sergey Lavrov: Please ask foreign leaders who have talked with President Putin recently, including UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres. I think you will see what I mean.

Ahh, Lavrov agrees with my assessment that there is nothing wrong with Vladimir Vladimirovich's health. I have been reassuring everyone here about this fact for for several days.

It seems to me that Lavrov missed a chance to name Hal Turner for also not succumbing to these MI6-CIA ridiculous rumors! Did you not see the 15-foot-long tables at which Putin entertains foreign dignitaries all the time? The man obviously takes his health seriously and I am sure he can afford the best doctors in Russia, if not the world to take care of him!

My latest addition to the list is "389rivka" or whatever (she obviously is into gematria), who pretends to be a Christian female chaplain. She made a mistake of accusing me of ad hominem attack (out of the blue) aimed at another female forumnaut, which was a blatant LIE. So, AN IDF Troll from Tel Aviv and feminazi to boot. Life must not be easy for some of us!

-3 # Sergey Lavrov: Vladimir Zelensky said publicly. He said Ukraine was ready to become a neutral, non-bloc, non-nuclear country if it is provided with security guarantees. — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 12:02

Quote:

In March, agreements were outlined at a negotiators’ meeting in Istanbul, based on what Vladimir Zelensky said publicly. He said Ukraine was ready to become a neutral, non-bloc, non-nuclear country if it is provided with security guarantees. We were ready to work on this foundation given the understanding that the agreement would envisage that the security guarantees do not apply to Crimea and Donbass, as the Ukrainians had themselves suggested. Immediately after this proposal of theirs, which they signed and handed over to us, they changed their position.

Obviously, Russians will not be interested in negotiations for a while. In this situation, when the Cossack negotiator at the other end of the round table is either Drunk or having a cocaine brain storm, or both, you have to drop a few more tons of ordinance before he becomes alert again and start negotiation in good faith.

Russians will start negotiating again only after their historical city of Odessa is taken and defended from Romanians!

# Read it again; — Dudimus Maximus 2022-05-04 11:06

what you THINK, when you read, is what you THINK you read. No one talks like this in the west. The "Questioner" is closer to what we sound like- even to each other. It is what is wrong with societies. The content and facts are subordinate to "being nice" and "politically correct" and just plain polite social interaction. We rarely say, or get to say, what we really think and mean and so the narrative and conversation content, is false. It's simply bullshit. Things said, in just the right way, because, well, you can't just tell the truth. Tell It Like It Is and see how that works for you. Go ahead, try it in your local life for a week. Remember "Liar Liar"? So we come here and enjoy Hal telling it like it is & get to speak through him vicariously , AND THEN GET TO READ A LAVROV INTERVIEW - what a treat! Pres Putin does the same.

-5 # Lavrov is not interested in Bergoglian peace overtures. — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 11:04

Question: Several days ago, your Ministry published a photo of your predecessor, Andrey Gromyko, meeting with Pope Paul VI. Is this a call for Pope Francis to act as mediator?

Sergey Lavrov: I think it was simply the anniversary of their meeting. The Foreign Ministry is posting photos of events from 20, 30, or 40 years ago on its social media accounts.

That is very telling. Russia has not yet achieved its strategic goals in Ukraine and is not ready to negotiate the peace, especially with Bergoglio, the fake anti-pope as the intermediary. Russians seem to know that he is going to be axed very soon, and I do not have any problems with it.

Obviously, Lavrov's goal is to at least diminish Ukraine significantly by taking the Donbass, Mariupol, Kharkiv and Odessa away from the Hohol Cossacks, while at the same time it seems, letting Poland take back the Eastern Ukraine with Lviv and Volyn Oblast, which historically have been a part of Poland for the last 1000 years! There are less than 3 % Russian speakers there and this region is not historically a part of Russia. Therefore it would not be unreasonable to lessen the burden on its Krasnaya Armiya by letting Poland take back what Stalin took away arbitrarily in 1945 and deal with Eastern Ukraine as "peacekeepers". This is how these games have always been played. I would applaud Lavrov for that!

Don't you agree Lexi, the Mossad troll and Jewish Comedienne?

-4 # RE: Lavrov is not interested in Bergoglian peace overtures. — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 11:34

Quoting Haarnaś:

Poland take back the Eastern Ukraine with Lviv and Volyn Oblast,

I forgot to mention the Rivne Oblast. Some other Oblasts may be involved as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivne

-1 # " ...the adoption of laws to promote Nazi theories and practice. These laws are not adopted for several tens of thousands of militants in radical battalions, but for the whole country." — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 10:31

Lavrov makes it clear that it it is not just Azov Battalion that is a problem for Russia. The whole stinking Ukraine is Nazi now, with about 100 000 trained Nazis infiltrating into every Ukrainian Army unit!

-2 # "As for Azov, there is evidence being published now confirming that the Americans and especially the Canadians played a leading role in training the ultra-radical and clearly neo-Nazi units in Ukraine.+ — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 10:11

AHHhh, Russians then have not only the Canuck General Trevor Cadieu but also US Major General Roger L. Cloutier, who was supposed to be in Turkey according to Pentagon. However, no one has seen him since beginning of April and his "recent" Turkish conference video produced by Pentagon was over two years old, as no one in it was masked. The rat is still in the tunnels of AzovStal and Lavrov knows it! God sleuthing Hal!

# lola rutherford — lola rutherford 2022-05-04 01:11

Interesting that war of the Worlds with Tom Cruse talks about Ukraine and Europe just interesting

# Ok Lola…again — 389rivka@gmail.com 2022-05-04 13:21

Right on cue, the resident bully is at it again….
“swallowing whole “
“communist bolshevik “
“nazi mossad trolls”

Harrda$$ never discusses — he slams with feigned authority. A self-proclaimed expert on all topics. Demanding that Hal block/cancel anyone who disagrees with his “profound assessments” on all matters. Yeah, he’s 2022 poster boy for Narcissist of the Year. He’s got my vote ;-)

-2 # Few motr epithets for you — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 14:41

Quoting 389rivka@gmail.com:

Right on cue, the resident bully is at it again….
“swallowing whole “
“communist bolshevik “
“nazi mossad trolls”

Harrda$$ never discusses — he slams with feigned authority. A self-proclaimed expert on all topics. Demanding that Hal block/cancel anyone who disagrees with his “profound assessments” on all matters. Yeah, he’s 2022 poster boy for Narcissist of the Year. He’s got my vote ;-)

And YOU are an abomination in pants. Chaplin, no less. A few more epithets: feminazi, which I suppose goes along with your chosen profession.

I never call for banning anyone. It is other trolls from Commie-land of Facebook of IDF like you, who want to ban me. I do not mind. The time is short to the End and I have so many other things to do, including professional work that I really do not mind.

+1 # RE: lola rutherford — Forrest Mosby 2022-05-04 13:12

Quoting lola rutherford:

Interesting that war of the Worlds with Tom Cruse talks about Ukraine and Europe just interesting

Where in that movie?..I made note that all the supplies he could muster to bug out with was a box of condiments and a little pissant pistol…Id like to hear the Uke reference-Thanks

# OK Lola — 389rivka@gmail.com 2022-05-04 10:33

Actually several subscribers have mentioned movies on this forum….Haarda$$ ( did I spell that right ;-) doesn’t notice cause he doesn’t really read other posts thoroughly just enough to attack & criticize. The tactic of predictive programming has been discussed often here. Thanks for your post and I agree re: War of the Worlds.

-3 # RE: OK Lola — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 11:48

Quoting 389rivka@gmail.com:

Actually several subscribers have mentioned movies on this forum….Haarda$$ ( did I spell that right ;-) doesn’t notice cause he doesn’t really read other posts thoroughly just enough to attack & criticize. The tactic of predictive programming has been discussed often here. Thanks for your post and I agree re: War of the Worlds.

Why would you be so interested in Swallowing Whole anything that Hollywood elites serve us?

Have you read my post, I think not!

All predictive programming discussions (of which I am most aware) aside, I do not attack, I discuss ideas. If you consider my polemic with Lola just an ad hominem attack on her when I justifiably disagree with her, I suggest that you post only on Facebook or some other such COMMUNIST platform where you are aways supposed to agree with everyone and if you disagree you are immediately BANNED by the Thought Police. If you are a Communist Bolshevik Troll, I suggest that YOU check out from this forum!

-3 # RE: OK Lola — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 11:52

Quoting Haarnaś:

[ If you are a Communist Bolshevik Troll, I suggest that YOU check out from this forum!

I have decided that you are a Mossad Troll from the bowels of the IDF basements in Tel Aviv and you can go to HALL!

# Harrda$$ — 389rivka@gmail.com 2022-05-04 13:24

Duly noted ;-)

-5 # We do not discuss movies here Lola — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 10:20

Quoting lola rutherford:

Interesting that war of the Worlds with Tom Cruse talks about Ukraine and Europe just interesting

We discuss serious matters not wag-the-dog wishful thinking of the Hollywood Jewish elites, who not only stole all the Tomas Edison patents but drove him out of film business by burning all his warehouses full of film projector and such, set up to compete with Khazarian nickelodeons! Yes, Edison understood what he was doing extremely well and competed heard, but the Jewish Mafia canceled him, the white Christian man!

-4 # Erratum — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 10:21

Quoting Haarnaś:

Edison understood what he was doing extremely well and competed heard,

Should be: competed hard

+10 # Thanks so much Hal — SBGlett77 2022-05-03 22:40

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This was a refreshing word of sanity and truthfulness. Extremely well articulated by Mr. Lavrov.

Whatever happens from this point, I can have a clear conscience in knowing Russia is operating from having tried to do what is just and right, as I support that.

We in America, whose government and many of its people have forgotten God, will reap what we have sown. That is an immutable principle. But the upright remnant possessing a clear conscience and salvation from sin's condemnation, in Jesus, need have no fear.

+4 # Now the US tells Taiwan — Gregg W 2022-05-03 22:00

They have to wait to defend their own country.

https://www.rt.com/news/554924-taiwan-us-weapons-order-delayed/

Obummer is clearly working against America and her allies while helping her enemies.

+20 # Well spoken — skyward21 2022-05-03 20:34

Mr. Lavrov is quite a statesman!
His points are well defined and articulated.

I enjoyed reading this transcript…thanks for posting it Hal.

+15 # Joseph Goebbels quote — 389rivka@gmail.com 2022-05-03 20:32

Question
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Thank you , Hal, for shining a light on the truth….like they say, “ You can’t outlive the truth “

-3 # Would you be kind enough to quote some memorable quotes from Ben Gurion Rivka — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 12:31

Quoting 389rivka@gmail.com:

Question
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Thank you , Hal, for shining a light on the truth….like they say, “ You can’t outlive the truth “

Or Gulda Meir/Menachem Begin as well?

-1 # Kind enough :-) — 389rivka@gmail.com 2022-05-04 13:45

David Ben-Gurion quotes….

Thought is a strenuous art - few practice it, and then only at rare times.

In order to be a realist, you must believe in miracles

It's not enough to be up to date, you have to be up to tomorrow.
*************
Golda Meir quote

Trust yourself. Create the kind of self that you will be happy to live with all your life. Make the most of yourself by fanning the tiny, inner sparks of possibility into flames of achievement.

You'll never find a better sparring partner than adversity.

*****************
Menachem Begin

Peace is the beauty of life. It is sunshine. It is the smile of a child, the love of a mother, the joy of a father, the togetherness of a family. It is the advancement of man, the victory of a just cause, the triumph of truth. Peace is all of these and more and more.
***************

Many more available on the web .
Your welcome ;-)

-1 # RE: Kind enough :-) — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 15:03

Quoting 389rivka@gmail.com:

David Ben-Gurion quotes….

Thought is a strenuous art - few practice it, and then only at rare times.

In order to be a realist, you must believe in miracles

It's not enough to be up to date, you have to be up to tomorrow.
*************
Golda Meir quote

Trust yourself. Create the kind of self that you will be happy to live with all your life. Make the most of yourself by fanning the tiny, inner sparks of possibility into flames of achievement.

You'll never find a better sparring partner than adversity.

*****************
Menachem Begin

Peace is the beauty of life. It is sunshine. It is the smile of a child, the love of a mother, the joy of a father, the togetherness of a family. It is the advancement of man, the victory of a just cause, the triumph of truth. Peace is all of these and more and more.
***************

Many more available on the web .
Your welcome ;-)

Obviously very Judeocentric.

But you failed to mention what they thought about their favorite topic, the Palestinians! Never mind what they thought of themselves. We all know that you think you are Gods and everyone else is not!

I will give you some quotes that these three extreme criminals made about Palestinians. I guess you did not know they were extreme!

The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill: from the Nile to the Euphrates.
David Ben-Gurion

I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?
David Ben-Gurion

We can forgive [the Arabs] for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with [the Arabs] when they love their children more than they hate us...
Golda Meir

There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist.
Golda Meir

Israel will not transfer Judea, Samaria, and the Gaza District to any foreign sovereign authority, [because] of the historic right of our nation to this land, [and] the needs of our national security, which demand a capability to defend our State and the lives of our citizens.
Menachem Begin

Goyim kill goyim and the Jews are blamed.
Menachem Begin

# @Harrda$$ — 389rivka@gmail.com 2022-05-04 15:36

When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail…..
..thought / art / miracles / peace / family ….
I doubt you will garner any agreement on this forum that those terms are exclusively “Judeo-centric”.

You self-identify as polemic in style…
Definition of polemic
1a : an aggressive attack on or refutation of the opinions or principles of another. b : the art or practice of disputation or controversy —usually used in plural but singular or plural in construction. 2 : an aggressive controversialist : disputant.

Take your polemic hammer and go play somewhere else. Yawn

-3 # ERRATUM — Haarnaś 2022-05-04 12:32

Quoting Haarnaś:

[quote name="389rivka@gmail.com"]

Or Gulda Meir/Menachem Begin as well?

should be: GOLDA

+12 # But wait one minute — MarkMicho 2022-05-03 20:04

That's not the official "News" I am hearing 24/7 from Fox, NBC, CBS, or even CNN. Could it possibly be they are lying and have become
propaganda outlets for the government. No wait, that would mean we live in a communist regime.
Tell me it ain't so....

+15 # Interesting read... — FewThereBe 2022-05-03 20:03

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Thank you for posting!

+3 # The Rulers over the West Want War — Faith11 2022-05-03 19:49

It looks like Russia has done everything possible to not have a nuclear war. It looks like NATO could give a rip about anything except, initiating a nuclear war.
The rulers over the U.S. have so much power they are walking us down the road to total ruin. I will go step further I think eventually the U.S. will be occupied by the Russians and Chinese.. who knows at the point they might very well be our liberators from deep state

+2 # RE: The Rulers over the West Want War — Redlist Renegade 2022-05-03 22:24

I do believe that they Will invade North America and may well end up occupying us but they Won't be coming as "Liberators" and they Won't be taking Any prisoners !!!

+2 # Like the French hailing the nazi liberators? — Dudimus Maximus 2022-05-03 22:19

Quoting Faith11:

who knows at the point they might very well be our liberators from deep state

The Chinese want the CONUS land mass,,, and they dont want to share it with leftover roundeyes, or any other colors or eyes for that matter. They will be busy liberating you from your life.

+5 # RE: The Rulers over the West Want War — MarkMicho 2022-05-03 20:15

Quoting Faith11:

It looks like Russia has done everything possible to not have a nuclear war. It looks like NATO could give a rip about anything except, initiating a nuclear war.
The rulers over the U.S. have so much power they are walking us down the road to total ruin. I will go step further I think eventually the U.S. will be occupied by the Russians and Chinese..
who knows at the point they might very well be our liberators from deep state

Along with the fact that the USA is 30+ trillion in debt and there is no way out.....except War.

+8 # RE: The Rulers over the West Want War — Faith11 2022-05-03 21:05

I think you are right they will use war to wash over the trillions of debt. However, all war simulations with Russia and China show the U.S. is defeated so they will lose the U.S. altogether to wash over the debts...yup that sounds about right.

+10 # Transcript — chip 2022-05-03 19:33

Hal is right about Foreign Minister Lavrov.
The man has forgotten more about diplomacy
Than any of these so called people of the
NATO countries. It's a darn shame that
these delusionalists can't negotiate in good
faith. We wouldn't be in this quagmire.

+11 # My Opinion Is — Forrest Mosby 2022-05-03 18:52

The ‘Common Citizen’ of both our countries are allScrewed, Blued and Tattooed as the old saying goes…
‘Useless Eaters’ is how we are referred to

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