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Trolling? Or Truth? Medvedev Shows "New map of Ukraine"

Trolling?   Or Truth?   Medvedev Shows "New map of Ukraine"

Ukraine is more likely to be reduced to Kiev and its surroundings than to ever re-encompass Crimea and the Donbass republics, former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said on his Telegram channel on Wednesday.  Is he just Trolling, or is this the simple truth?

The one-time president and long-time prime minister who now heads the national security council also posted two maps helpfully illustrating his argument.

The first map showed Ukraine in borders prior to the US-backed coup in 2014, including Crimea and the two eastern regions of Donetsk and Lugansk. A month after the militants backed by Washington seized power in Kiev, Crimea voted to rejoin Russia, while the two Donbass regions declared independence.

“In the mind of the president of Ukraine, damaged by psychotropic substances, this is what the map of his country’s bright future will look like,” Medvedev wrote on Telegram.

 

“Western analysts believe it will look like this, actually,” he said, posting a second map.

On it, “Ukraine” is reduced to Kiev and its surroundings. Seven regions in the West have been annexed by Poland, and three in the southwest by Hungary and Romania, respectively.

Everything else is marked “Russia.” 

He did not specify which Western experts may have envisioned such a partition.

The Ukrainian government has repeatedly rejected any possibility of territorial concessions, insisting that Kiev’s objectives were a “capitulation” of Russia and “reintegration” of Donbass and Crimea.

 Medvedev served as president of Russia between 2008 and 2012, and then as prime minister until 2020, when he was put in charge of the national security council. Over the course of the conflict in Ukraine, he has made a name for himself with colorful Telegram posts. Just this month, he warned Kiev of “Judgment Day” if they attacked Crimea and offered a list of “Russian sins,” followed up by those of the West.

Russia sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, citing Kiev’s failure to implement the Minsk agreements, designed to give the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within the Ukrainian state. The protocols, brokered by Germany and France, were first signed in 2014. Former Ukrainian President Pyotr Poroshenko has since admitted that Kiev’s main goal was to use the ceasefire to buy time and “create powerful armed forces.”

In February 2022, the Kremlin recognized the Donbass republics as independent states and demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join any Western military bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked.

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# When This Guy Was PresidentForrest Mosby 2022-07-29 09:14
Was he Putins puppet the same way Brandon is King O’s?
-2 # ExactlyHaarnaś 2022-07-29 09:59
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
Was he Putins puppet the same way Brandon is King O’s?


Medvedev was the result of an exhaustive search a few yews back in exactly the same way that Tom Cruise searches for wives when he needs one!
+1 # RE: ExactlyForrest Mosby 2022-07-29 10:37
Quoting Haarnaś:
Quoting Forrest Mosby:
Was he Putins puppet the same way Brandon is King O’s?


Medvedev was the result of an exhaustive search a few yews back in exactly the same way that Tom Cruise searches for wives when he needs one!


I hit green, it gave you red-thanks for the reply
+2 # off topic1...2...3...and 4 2022-07-29 06:13
I had to change subscription payment method. Received emails my previous credit card payment did not go through.
I sent an email to Hal on how to change payment to a new credit card and have not received a response.
# You're not aloneRedbaron 2022-07-29 06:51
Same here. Card expired, tried to update, doesn't appear to be a way to do it.
+4 # High on coke..VZ.Hope springs 2022-07-29 05:50
Medvedev is right, the cocaine sniffing President, posing for Vogue while his men are dying on the battlefield. Can there be a worse example? And the West is championing him, coz it suits their playbook. Godspeed Russia, to put an end to this war and madness.
# A Masters in mendacity!Smiley1984*! 2022-07-29 03:16
To be a western politician you seem to need just one thing: A Masters in mendacity!

Are these western leaders complete ignoramuses
or Masters in mendacity!

The consequence of their words and actions do not seem occur to, or bother them at all; until they are "smacked in the face, or kicked in the butt", as a result.

Just now we have Biden saying "our policy on China has not changed" ; then sending Pelosi with and armed escort to Taiwan, a direct affront to China!

We had Bojo telling the UK to Mask and social distance, then lockdowns while he and his associates are out PARTYING!

Russia on the other hand has honest politicians that "say what they mean, and mean what they say". People like Lavrov who is universally admired for his diplomacy, much to the chagrin of western so called leaders.

We in the west need to rid ourselves of the stagnant, rotting, talking heads, that are just glove puppets for the new "Emperors": the techno elite.

They say we need "A rules based order", where they make the rules and we have to obey their orders. But the rules do not apply to them!

They dismiss our Human rights, our Legal rights, and our Moral rights; just as with Graham Phillips the UK journalist, and Hal Turner himself.

We need to reclaim OUR RIGHTS!
# Map Didn't Show US/European Special Economic ZonesOccamsRazor 2022-07-29 02:36
So where are the new locations of the Bio Labs going to be within New Ukraine?
+2 # So where are the new locationsrogue_ 2022-07-29 06:55
They will have to move them to Pelosi's mansion...
+3 # RE: Trolling? Or Truth? Medvedev Shows "New map of Ukraine"psampson 2022-07-29 00:56
To leave so much as a toe hold for corrupt satanic's world elites would be a huge mistake...
+4 # Map of EuropeMANYROUNDS 2022-07-28 23:00
Be looking for an updated map of Europe soon, and the rest of the world as well.
+11 # MapDeepwoo 2022-07-28 22:32
So Ukraine, the country of democracy supported by Nazis and NATO will shrink into a little enclave with no ports, no agriculture, no manufacturing, only corrupt bureaucrats, that is what needs to happen to Ottawa Canada, and a few other choice locations.
-1 # Canada needs to round up all the Ukes there and give them what they have always wanted, their own state with Uke language, currency and bankingHaarnaś 2022-07-28 23:26
Quoting Deepwoo:
So Ukraine, the country of democracy supported by Nazis and NATO will shrink into a little enclave with no ports, no agriculture, no manufacturing, only corrupt bureaucrats, that is what needs to happen to Ottawa Canada, and a few other choice locations.


in and around Vagreville, Alberta. Chrystia Freeland the vice PM of Canada can become its Prime Minister. Vagreville is already all-Ukrainian! They should finally be happy they have their own state and stop bothering the world! All previous proposals by Ukes to establish their own state within Canadain borders were laughed off and rejected. At this point however, I see a real opportunity for them in Canada!

From Wiki:
Pysanka Festival
The Pysanka Festival, founded in 1973, occurs annually during the first weekend of July.

The 2015 festival featured grandstand shows, cultural variety shows, a pioneer village, Ukrainian music, a Zabava (evening Dance) featuring Kolomeyka music, folk arts creating Pysanka (Ukrainian Easter eggs), and a market place. The festival has hosted the Cheremosh Ukrainian Dance Company, the Ukrainian Male Chorus of Edmonton, and the Kubasonics!!!


The largest Pysanka in the world
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Vegreville_pysanka_August_2008.jpg/500px-Vegreville_pysanka_August_2008.jpg
+3 # APARTHEIDW1NGXER0 2022-07-28 22:04
so Ukrain gets to become the new west bank/Gaza. Nothing changes. Nobody goes to jail. Everybody suffers.
+9 # Medvedev...tall drink of cold water.Doug Brown 2022-07-28 22:43
Gives a new bright definition to greatness..
If only America had men of this stature.
Medvedev no traitor, as our leadership consists
Name one American Statesman that can
compare to Lavrov, Medvedev or Putin?
You cannot.
Why?
Our leadership are all WOKE fags.
-6 # You never stop trolling for USSR comrade Braune, do you?Haarnaś 2022-07-28 23:04
Quoting Doug Brown:

compare to Lavrov, Medvedev or Putin?
You cannot.


Yes, I can summon them from the past and the present: Gen. Washington, Presidents Jefferson, Polk, Kennedy, Reagan, future governor of Pennsylvania and President of the US, Doug Mastriano, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (Catholics both).

You do not have to push those Soviet flunkies so hard. We know very well what will happen to them once they conquer the whole world; they will go straight to Hell! We are perfectly capable of assessing them on merits without your prompts.
+3 # Why? You still here?Doug Brown 2022-07-28 23:38
You said you were leaving.
Such a child. Spoiled.
Why are you still here?
# RE: Why? You still here?Paul Kurzlee 2022-07-29 00:43
Quoting Doug Brown:
You said you were leaving.
Such a child. Spoiled.
Why are you still here?

Just confirms what a liar this kath-lick really is. Can't keep his word more then 24 hours. Just the same way his zog/kath-lick handlers operate. Perfect example of the type of idiot he truly is.
+1 # YesDoug Brown 2022-07-29 09:47
Megalomaniacs exhibit these traits.
Harnass is, if nothing else, a liar.
More like an unwanted party crasher.
-10 # Is the second map some kind of Russian Joke!Haarnaś 2022-07-28 21:41
Spetsnaz general whom Hal has featured prominently a few days ago would never agree to this. On Gen. Ivan Ivanov's map Luck in the Westernmost part of Ukraine is Russian. On Medvedev's map they give it up to Poland? I will kiss a snake before I trust anything Russian/USSR! It is a stupid Medvedev joke to hide the butchers' real intentions!
+1 # You give a new definition to STUPIDDoug Brown 2022-07-28 23:41
At least Sammy has an excuse.
You are just stupid and dull.
I think you are probably a troll.
As in 100% disingenuous.
But more...just stupid.
-5 # RE: Is the second map some kind of Russian Joke!The Deplorable Renegade 2022-07-28 23:21
Harnas, I liked your crack about “Soviet flunkies”. Perfectly describes Putin, Lavrov, and Medvedev. That map produced by Medvedev is nothing more than their dreams. Their minds were burned up long ago by all that vodka. Russians are savages and treacherous. Never to be trusted.
+16 # RE: Trolling? Or Truth? Medvedev Shows "New map of Ukraine"JFY 2022-07-28 20:41
.
Hahahaha!

That second map will give all the ukrainian trolls on here a conniption fit! Hahaha.
# RE: Trolling? Or Truth? Medvedev Shows "New map of Ukraine"Paul Kurzlee 2022-07-28 22:47
Quoting JFY:
.
Hahahaha!

That second map will give all the ukrainian trolls on here a conniption fit! Hahaha.

Already looks like the kath-lick don't like it. LOL.
-1 # Birkat haMinimalmachius 2022-07-29 03:42
You sound like you might recite the 18thh Benediction daily.

We "kath lickers" laugh at your pitiful hatred of us.
+3 # Well StruckCataMaroon 2022-07-28 20:20
Showing parts of Ukraine as belonging to NATO countries in the future pure genius. Divide your enemies by appealing to their greed. Nice
-5 # Russians Cannot Be TrustedForrest Mosby 2022-07-28 20:05
So unless you KNOW, speculating as to motives, etc is useless
+18 # "Russia Cannot Be Stopped"t.n.kuss@hotmail.com 2022-07-28 19:54
It is "RIDICULOUS THAT OUR PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS KEEP THROWING AMERICAN TAX PAYER FUNDS OVER TO UKRAINE," Especially Considering "THE AMERICAN PUBLIC DESPERATELY NEEDS THOSE FUNDS TO BE USED HERE AT HOME TO HELP OUR OWN PEOPLE OUT OF THE HELLISH SITUATION CREATED BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT OVER THE COVID-19 VACCINE MANDATE THAT DESTROYED AMERICA ON ALL LEVELS!"
+4 # █▓▒░ RIDICULOUS THAT OUR PRESIDENT... ░▒▓█Palehorse 2022-07-28 22:03
|

OUR PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS are still using
Ukraine to funnel money back into their pockets.

US military equipment is being removed from US
soil as gun confiscation goes well beyond the average Joe.

"THE AMERICAN PUBLIC DESPERATELY NEEDS THOSE
FUNDS" and they don't give a damn.
+3 # americaldocamericaldoc 2022-07-28 19:53
Did anyone else catch this? Even PBS must have reached an overload of lies to cave in. Honestly can't believe they did this.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/know-getting-bad-ukraine-pbs-disputes-propaganda/
# T/Y389rivka@gmail.com 2022-07-28 20:14
Great read. The bubble might not have burst but it’s definitely leaking.
+3 # MapDeepwoo 2022-07-28 19:46
What about Belarus, can’t they get a little morsel for being standup guys?
+3 # americaldocamericaldoc 2022-07-28 20:02
Lukashenko is a step and fetch it boy for Putin. I am very sorry to say this because I love Belarus and Belarussians. I have been there many times and married a lady there. That cockroach was elected in '96 and held onto his office through brutality ever since. He is best known as the last Communist Dictator in Europe.
One special feature for Belarus is that in all of my trips there is everyone is WHITE.
-3 # RE: americaldocThe Deplorable Renegade 2022-07-28 23:28
Lukashenko is just another Soviet flunky. Don’t know about Belarusians but I do know a few Ukrainians who suffered under Soviet rule. Look up the Holodomor, STALIN’S HOLOCAUST AGAINST THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE.
# americaldocamericaldoc 2022-07-29 09:37
Lukashenko was never in power in USSR times. I quote you, " don't know about Belarussians " then, what evidence is your logic drawn from and why the comment?
FYI: The best research work ever done on what happened in Belarus, Ukraine and Poland running up to and including WWII is in the book written by Timothy Snyder, Bloodlands.
More tidbits, in Belarus over 25% of the population died in WWII and the entire country was flattened by the Nazis. This country suffered the highest per capita loss of life of any country in the war.... facts.
+2 # americaldocamericaldoc 2022-07-28 21:17
To whoever for the thumbs down. Do you something about the country?
+4 # americaldoc389rivka@gmail.com 2022-07-28 22:54
FYI, ignore the first three downvotes….paid trolls doing their thing. I guess the plus side of that is they are working — yeah, it’s a stupid pos gig but it’s a step up from being a telemarketer. LOL
-1 # RE: americaldocThe Deplorable Renegade 2022-07-28 23:29
Do you mean the RUSSIAN trolls who come here?
+4 # americaldocamericaldoc 2022-07-28 23:22
Thank you. You are completely right or they completely fools, or both.

 

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