UK: Scientific Advisory Group Announces COVID Troubles for "Five more years" -- VAX and Testing for "Decade" More!

UK: Scientific Advisory Group Announces COVID Troubles for "Five more years" -- VAX and Testing for "Decade" More!

The Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) in the United Kingdom has issued a statement saying COVID will be a threat to Britain's National Health Service (NHS) for another FIVE YEARS . . .


+5 # Thank you everyone!Paul Lambert 2021-12-05 04:55
Thank you to all of you with encourage words and for your prayers.

Indeed, I take back "I'm already dead". Certainly I am not already dead, and where there is life there is hope, right?
-1 # Queen of Peace in Anguera (recurring theme): "My children have nothing to fear"Haarnaś 2021-12-05 10:19
Quoting Paul Lambert:
Certainly I am not already dead, and where there is life there is hope, right?

Close. Where there is life, there is hope, so Let it be or Let the will of Heaven come, you must always consent to it. Paul McCartney was even inspired to write a religious hymn about it, and John Lennon naturally hated it. He thought the hymnlike aspects of the song, including organ interludes were stupid. On the album, Lennon introduced it thus: “Now, we’d like to do ‘Hark, The Angels Come.'” Years later, Lennon said that “Let It Be” was all McCartney, that it was “nothing to do with the Beatles … I don’t know what he’s thinking when he writes ‘Let It Be.'”. Lennon sounds like all the heretics of this forum.

HVM has told us from Anguera, the Land of Holy Cross that we will be taken care of come rain or even shine from the second son*!

* see the link below. Behold I send you as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves.
[Matthew 10:16] Be wise as Paul's song suggest paraphrasing Jesus and plan your immediate future accordingly! Do not ignore Anguera. Rome will most likely burn by the time Bergoglio returns from Nicosia on Monday and the other Anguera scenario will start unfolding beginning probably late next week!(see link below**)

When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be
And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be

Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be

And when the broken hearted people living in the world agree
There will be an answer, let it be
For though they may be parted, there is still a chance that they will see
There will be an answer, let it be

Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
There will be an answer, let it be

Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be

Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be, be

And when the night is cloudy there is still a light that shines on me
Shinin' until tomorrow, let it be
I wake up to the sound of music, Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be

And let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be

And let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be
+3 # How relevantPaul Lambert 2021-12-05 10:32
I always liked that song. Now it hits home more than ever before.

Update: I have been inquiring about a flat across the river in Poland. I don't want to go into many details, but I offer this as thanks to you and others who have kept my spirits up.

Of course, I will see what happens and let it be.
+1 # RE: How relevantHaarnaś 2021-12-05 11:54
Good luck in Poland. Poland is and has always been an open Western nation, Polish folks historically having all kind of foreign names, German, French, Italian, Lithuanian, Swedish even English. It was once (and still is) a great Commonweath (Rzeczpospolita in Polish). In the coming Great Chastisement, Catholic countries and regions will do exponentially better than Protestant ones. In fact, Germany will be in all probability be wiped off the map.
+1 # I do believe the experimental "vaccines" (AKA "gene therapy) are potentially dangerousMan of the Atom 2021-12-05 04:16
There is no doubt that VAERS here and EudraVigilance over in Europe are reporting thousands of deaths and hundreds of thousands of injuries following "vaccination". That being said keep in mind there may be "agents provocateurs" who are deliberately spreading disinformation (information known to be false) to discredit our movement. They may even be here on this site behind the paywall! Accordingly, while I have an open mind about all this, I will take some things "with a grain of salt" until several hard core scientific "authorities" (not connected with Big Pharma or the globalists) concur on individual matters.
+3 # An amplification of thisMan of the Atom 2021-12-05 04:52
Charles Hoffe, the Canadian cardiologist who first discovered the microscopic blood clot problem using the D-dimer test, said 62% of his Pfizer "vaccinated" patients had the D-dimer elevations, meaning 38% didn't. Are those 38% a delayed reaction group or are they people "still on God's list"? Were all the vaccines the same??

As I was falling asleep the other night an inner voice told me "have faith in God!" In another dream a voice said "10 amazing moves". I will hope for the best and for those of you who pray, thank you for praying for all of us.
-1 # Good questionHaarnaś 2021-12-05 10:51
Quoting Man of the Atom:
.... said 62% of his Pfizer "vaccinated" patients had the D-dimer elevations, meaning 38% didn't. Are those 38% a delayed reaction group or are they people "still on God's list"?

Good question. Six or seven people in my office should be dead by now, based on the fact that most of them were double-jabbed in January-February. Unfortunately, I do not know their D-dimer status or the status of their endothelial inflammation markers recently publicized in the prestigious cardiology journal Circulation by the Irvine, CA group! Still, though heretics, the Holy Rosary and the Chaplet of the Most Precious Blood have been recited for all of them continuously with only a brief break when I had almost written them all off!
+2 # VAX and Testing for "Death"Palehorse 2021-12-04 23:51

Dr. Eads is treating patients who have been injected
with the experimental CV19 so-called “vaccines.” Dr.
Eads is witnessing the horror stories of treating the
unvaxed who have been made sick by the
“Fully Vaccinated.”

 “The day after Thanksgiving and through the
weekend in the ER, we saw all kinds of symptoms
of unvaxed people. We saw chest pain, heart attack . . .
head to toe . . . rashes, and in the first time in my 25
year career, I saw a patient come in with a ruptured
left ventricle. That’s a ruptured heart muscle, and he
had to immediately go to open heart surgery.

The initial Covid shots were 30 micrograms, then 50
micrograms, and the boosters are 100 micrograms. So,
you are getting twice as much of the synthetic mRNA,
and you are making twice as much of the synthetic spike
protein. We are estimating it is in the billions. . . . This
is very concerning.

Disturbing things seen in the vaccines under the microscope.

Lethal vaccine lot numbers may be going to “red states.”

Much MORE...

+4 # conditioning for the mark of the beast Rev 13jennifer chamberlain 2021-12-04 22:51
today the province I live in in canada basically put us back on the level 1 which gives stores the option to require jab passports to shop in them - they can totally ban those of us with discernment not to take this PHARMAKEIA (which means sorcery, witchcraft) and they use mind control to push this poison....its all leading up to the event of mass numbers taking the mark of the beast- those who do submit however will not be allowed in Gods kingdom ....may they pray for wisdom knowledge discerment
+2 # It appears that some newbie on the forum wanted to see Prof. Einstein's 1948 letter to NY Times so badly and was so upset because I did not post it, that he cannot stop swearing like a drunken sailor at everything under the sun,Haarnaś 2021-12-04 21:50
thereby violating the Fifth Commandment and endangering his immortal soul. Let us see if this post will calm him down and help save his soul!

New Palestine Party. Visit of Menachen Begin and Aims of Political Movement Discussed. A letter to The New York Times. Saturday December 4, 1948 by Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt, Sidney Hook,

New Palestine Party. Visit of Menachen Begin and Aims of Political Movement Discussed. A letter to The New York Times, published in the "Books" section (Page 12) of Saturday December 4, 1948

by Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt, Sidney Hook,

Source: Text from original microfilm

Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.
The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.
Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.
The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.

Attack on Arab Village
A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants (240 men, women, and children) and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.
The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.
Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.
During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.
The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.

Discrepancies Seen
The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.
In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.

The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.

New York, Dec. 2, 1948
# Who standing in the place that should not be?acturner067 2021-12-05 09:43
AshkeNAZI Jews, Khazars?
# If you are from Mossad or IDF, which was co-founded by Begin as we have discussed it beforeHaarnaś 2021-12-04 22:27
please do not read Prof. Einstein's letter, because you will not like it and in addition, it will give you indigestion or maybe even apoplectic attack that such an offensive document has not yet been nuked by the IDF!
+3 # More jaw droping info into those death shotsacturner067 2021-12-04 20:43
These shots have ebola and marburg strains in them. For those that are in countries that want to fine and force this into your body prayers go out to you second we are all at war and must act accordingly or be killed by it.
+3 # I'm already dead.Paul Lambert 2021-12-04 18:44
It is inevitable that Germany will force everyone to get the shot. Beginning in February, people will get summons to go get the shot by a certain date. If we don't show up, the fine is 2500 euros, but you still need to go get the shot. If you fail to show up a second time, the fine is 25,000 euros. Fail to show up after that and you end up in prison. If you don't pay the fines, you go to prison for 2 years. In prison you will be forcibly injected.

There is no scenario that will allow me not to get injected without losing everything I have, including my home, and becoming a homeless fugitive for the rest of my life.

I see no signs of there being any credible resistance movement in Germany either. It looks like I am hooped.

I can continue to pray that before now and when the summons start going out in February that there will be a major change in policy or that the German government is overthrown.

I want to be able to put some faith in the notions that side-effects are rare and that claims of death and injury are exaggerated, but we all know better. Will I happen to win this game of Russian roulette and be one of the lucky ones to survive? Maybe.

The politicians pressing this policy are all very evil and have had reason to be hated long before this COVID business was ever heard of. I doubt they suddenly turned good and have our best interests at heart now.

I have always been curious to see how history turns our and hoped to live past a hundred simply for that reason. However, perhaps this is a blessing. I don't really care to see what happens to what is left of civilisation in the distant future. I am merely saddened to think of what kind of world my young nieces will live in and experience.

Gunner: If you have any concrete ideas about "doing something", now is the time. I am at a loss. My anger alone tempts me to take a few of these evildoers down with me, but that is not going to happen.

Those of you who pray, a miracle would be very much appreciated.
# Rosary is not just a collection of prayer beads!Haarnaś 2021-12-04 22:53
It is a weapon against enemies of God, that never goes unanswered by Heaven. All forum Catholics should add Paul to their urgent prayer list to save him from himself. He obviously was procrastinating, which is his wont and privilege, since he likes to analyze everything most diligently. He just did not foresee the speed with which the hammer came down in Germany. If he can be smuggled out of Germany to Poland as Man of the Atom suggested, it might be the best solution. Poles have always been opened to the West and should be very happy to welcome another Catholic!

HVM commands angels in Heaven as well as the blessed souls! For her extreme humility, God the Father commanded her that she put souls of the blessed on the thrones in Heaven emptied by the angels who were cast to Hell. This was the will of Our Lord who elevates the humble ones. Since you were humble enough to ask for help on forum full of macho posturing, there is no question that you will get immediate help. God the Father demands that Heaven, Earth and Hell be unconditionally compliant with all the orders of Mary. Your pesky little problem will be solved very quicky.

By the way there is a prophesy floating around that Bergoglio will be weeping when he arrives back in in Rome from Cyprus, just prior to December 8th, the Feast of the Immaculate Conception! I wonder why
+3 # Interesting - this man has gonadsMan of the Atom 2021-12-05 04:23

To quote Rudyard Kipling, "you're a better man than I am, Gunga Din". However, you might suspect that of a priest as compared to the "average man" (or woman).
-2 # Patriarch Elijah Anthony DohnalHaarnaś 2021-12-05 11:37
hails from Pidhirtsi, Lviv Oblast, Ukraine.

Elijah, as the Patriarch of the Uniate Orthodox Church (Uniate is an old original term going to 16th century and it means all the Orthodox Dioceses in Pland Ukraine who accepted the supremacy of the pope and are under him!) has already excommunicate Bergoglio in 2013 or 2014. Elijah has put a nice anathema on antipope Bergoglio!
# Actually we do have some women who are better than men alreadyMan of the Atom 2021-12-05 04:30
I am thinking of Rep. Marjorie Greene (R-Ga.) and Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Co), and of course the irrepressible Laura Loomer.
+6 # Paul Lambertcodeblue 2021-12-04 20:07
I am among many who will pray that God makes a door or escape for you and your loved ones. They may take the same approach here as well, but so much info is coming to light things may change.
+4 # RE: Paul Lambertmjc 2021-12-04 21:12
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
+3 # RE: Paul LambertJFY 2021-12-04 21:48
100 percent.

That is the only way to go, short of emigrating to Poland or Sweden.
# RE: Paul Lambertmjc 2021-12-05 23:45
IIt is a trap.

They know they're pushing on the 'compliant' of society. We pay our taxes. We haul our asses out of bed each morning. We do our jobs. We feed our families. And they take 33% off the top to feed those who do NOT get their asses out of bed every morning. Feed their families. Do their jobs.

We do we what we must. God commands.....we obay.

And when they show up at the door, and say out wives and our children must take their shot.....

GOD commands! We obey!!!

They dont it.
# RE: Paul LambertPaul Lambert 2021-12-06 04:07
33% - that's a bargain!

But, yes, I get the point.
+4 # RE: I'm already dead.JFY 2021-12-04 20:06
Paul Lambert.

Never. Surrender.

Never accept calmly going to the executioner's block meekly like a lamb. That is left for the animals, not for men.

February is at least 2 months away. Find like-minded individuals and find a way to organize without drawing the police towards you. If they come, try to draw them into your group; they have families too. Congregate into a certain part of your city. Or if you find that there are more of you, congregate towards a certain part of the country.

You are a man of culture. You are needed for the reconstruction of whatever's left. If not for you, then do it with that in mind.

And pray for God's intervention. He will guide you in your fight for survival.

To decide not to fight is to do the evil men's work for them. Make it the worst proposition of their entire life.
+3 # RE: I'm already dead.Paul Lambert 2021-12-04 20:22
Thank you for that too, JFY. I will try to draw some inspiration.

Indeed, I might be a few steps ahead and I am discussing this with a few people. NOT many. Yes, we need like-minded people, but too many in one circle of people is a security threat.

I have been looking for something to serve as a safe-house. Hiding out in the country is a possibility too, but that may literally mean hiding forever.
+1 # You may decide to sell out and move to a safer country - Poland?Man of the Atom 2021-12-04 20:44
Absent other things happening, that is a viable option. Pull up stakes and move. I know some have said hijama (cupping) immediately following a shot is one way to remove it.

I also remember "cow magnets" - they would feed a magnet to a cow so that it would attract any nails or tacks and keep the animal's stomachs (?) from being perforated by the foreign body. If it is true that graphene oxide (hydroxide?) is the chief culprit as La Quinta Columna (the 5th column in Spanish) has said maybe some magnetic treatment could remove it from the body? Just a thought I have recently had. Good luck and may God bless.
+1 # RE: You may decide to sell out and move to a safer country - Poland?mjc 2021-12-05 19:20
Paul, your options appear to be (in order of effort required)
1) Stay, and comply
2) Run
3) Stay, and hide
4) Stay, and fight

Although you say 'run' is impossible.....hundreds of thousands run TO/THROUGH your country illegally every year. Are they more able than you? Or merely more motivated?

They move into (and through) your country.
Watch what happens when you (and the other taxpayers) do the same.

Yes......they're not going to WILLINGLY let you out, when your JOB (in their eyes) is to take the shot and keep working until you die to supported your/their unvaccinated immigrants.

I'd suggest that 'run' is easier than 'hide' or 'fight'.
You need to figure out where your heart is.

Doing nothing (i.e. comply) is itself a choice, of course.
+1 # The female elementPaul Lambert 2021-12-06 04:24
Those 4 options remain the same. Remember though that it is not just I making that choice but my wife as well.

Yes, ultimately I am the one who will have to put my foot down and decide for us both, but I want this to be as painless as possible for her.

The problem is that women have a hard time understanding dilemmas (in the literal sense), i.e., there are some situations in which no matter what you do there will be some negative outcome. At the moment, she insists that she does not want the shot, but she also does not want to leave our home in Berlin. Getting through to her that those are mutually exclusive is a challenge. There is no scenario under which we can simply stay here and not get the shot. It is one or the other.

Note as well that in her particular case, she is the sort of person who has a problem for every solution. She doesn't want to leave her city (which is more and more closed off to her), she would miss her friends (who don't talk to us anymore over our decision not to get the shot), she would find it hard to learn Polish etc etc.

And then she is a hindsight-Einstein. That is to say that I might make the best possible decision given the information I have at the given time, but if later things change and we find out more information that was not available earlier, she will suddenly go into "We should have done this or should not have done that." I don't have a crystal ball.

I suppose it is not outside the realm of physical impossibility that we would give up our home in Berlin, move to Poland or elsewhere, and then all of a sudden the German government decides not to force people to get injected. Then she would be devastated and tell me all about how "we shouldn't have moved after all". I don't really think that is going to happen.

Remember too that Poland is not some haven with regard to COVID. The lockdown measures as such are the strictest in Europe. The only difference is that *for now* the government is not considering forced vaccinations. Day-to-day life is still very limited.

Now, if it were just I, I would leave tomorrow. Poland is very much more affordable in all respects than Germany (certainly Berlin). I could put on some macho persona about how I am the man of the house and what I say goes, but when the reality lands on your own doorstep and you need to consider the concerns of another family member, it does add some complexity. Again, the most frustrating part is in getting her to understand that there is going to be a downside to whatever decision we make.
+3 # RE:Steve 196th Inf 2021-12-04 18:54
So sad, I wished it were otherwise. I will pray but God does the miracles.
Is there no possibility to get to the USA? Come for a vacation and then just stay, everyone else does. Leaving some family is not a good option I know. Things aren't perfect here either though.
wishing you the best
+2 # Thank youPaul Lambert 2021-12-04 19:03
Thank you for the suggestion. There is no leaving this country without a vaccination. I appreciate, however, that you are brainstorming.

Yes, God does the miracles, but we can always ask Him for a favour.
+2 # RE: Thank youJFY 2021-12-04 22:43
Quoting Paul Lambert:
There is no leaving this country without a vaccination.

Forget about Lufthansa. There is always a way out if there is the will to do it.

In 1968 my parents went on a trip to Europe. I was too young to be anything else but a nuisance, so I didn't go. While they were in Sweden, things came up and they had to cut their trip short. The only way that they could make the new flight home was if they flew by LOT to East Berlin and then by bus into West Germany.

Once in East Berlin, which was an experience itself, they boarded the bus that would take them across to West Berlin. The bus went extremely slowly and every certain number of yards it would stop at a police/military checkpoint, the soldiers would board to check the very few passenger's papers, and other soldiers with dogs would check under the bus and slide a large mirror underneath to see if there wasn't anyone holding on.

After this happened several times, my father, who spoke German, asked the man in charge of the bus if this was normal. He replied that it wasn't always this strict but that the night before or the night before that, an 18 year old boy and his younger brother had decided to try to escape to freedom in the West. They had waited until dark and just when they had finally managed to make it close to the Wall, they were found out and the older brother decided they had to make a break for it, so they ran. The border guards yelled for them to stop and started shooting and the 18 year old boy barely managed to grab his younger brother and toss him over the wall before being mowed down by machine gun fire. The older boy didn't make it to freedom but his younger brother did.

My father never told my mother about what he learned on that bus, but when I was older, he told me.

Hopefully things will not get even remotely as tragic now, but the point I'm making is that even in very dire circumstances there is a way out.

If you should decide to leave, you can head east towards Poland, or north towards Sweden. I'm guessing that in February it might even be possible to cross over the ice in some type of vehicle, without going through Kaliningrad (Koenigsberg) and the Baltic countries if it should become necessary. Maybe even Switzerland to the south might be a refuge, although the Alps in February sound daunting at best.
+1 # Lancet on vaxcodeblue 2021-12-04 18:22
link to Lancet Nov 19, 2021, esteemed British med journal, vaccinations don't work.
+5 # Anthony FauciNevada Swede 2021-12-04 14:17
Anthony Fauci appears to show signs of moderate dementia.
Watch how he is announcing different restrictions day by day.
Is he forgetting what restrictions he said yesterday or previous days?
+2 # That's life in Europe.Paul Lambert 2021-12-04 18:49
There is no more law, there are just "rules". They change day by day sometimes. Week by week certainly.

There is no way for us to plan anything nor should we be able to expect to be able to do things we want. Now and then, the government eases up slightly, and then we are supposed to be thankful.
+2 # RE: That's life in Europe.JFY 2021-12-04 19:50
I know it is far easier said than done, but why does anyone still follow those rules? A law is only as valid as the number of people who are willing to follow it. Otherwise it dissipates into thin air like the mirage that it really is.

Look at Austria; the government said "All the unvaxxed will be left out of society", and even the police gave them the middle finger salute. Last time I checked, their government was forced to say "Well, alright, maybe not."

If the whole E.U., or even on a country by country basis, said enough is enough with your criminal rules, this would stop as fast as that particular situation I mentioned.

Laws are a part of the social contract between the State (itself formed by individuals emanating from the People) and the People. If the State becomes abusive, the People have not only the right, but the obligation to deny the recognition of those laws as valid.

All the more so if those laws attempt against the health and even the very survival of the People.
+3 # Unlike the rest of 2021-12-04 16:13
suffering Moderna Dementia !
+1 # Mind numbingly terrifying. How long till it's here?JFY 2021-12-04 13:01
If some of the "laws" mentioned in here were used in a dystopian movie or novel, they would engender disbelief. But these are real.

Perhaps Ronald Reagan had it wrong: tyranny isn’t just a single generation away. It appears as if it only needs a year.
+3 # Yes, it went very fast.Paul Lambert 2021-12-04 18:51
It is like the old line, "How did you go bankrupt?", "First very slowly and then very quickly". The same pattern has occurred in the destruction of freedom on earth. I am amazed how quickly it went.
+1 # Why do Supposely Christians(?) take the Jab?acturner067 2021-12-04 11:45
Many people know of God as well as demons know Him and they(demons) tremble. How well do you know him? Below answer as to why Christians(?) take the Jab.
+1 # It's A Terrible Place To Be Where Your Brains Are In Somebody Else's Head.Palehorse 2021-12-04 11:30

Moment of truth Part 1: Aliens and technology transfer
+6 # Not just a rebranded fluJessiebeaner 2021-12-04 10:44
While this bioweapon rarely kills anyone who is NOT ELDERLY OR IMMUNE COMPROMISED TO BEGIN WITH, this bioweapon is NOT a rebranded flu. I am an RN for many decades. I have NEVER seen the necessity for the types of medications used in treating COVID bioweapon illness be used to treat influenza……..NEVER. This bioweapon attacks the vascular system, causing horrific inflammatory response and even multi organ damage. To save the life of someone who comes in for treatment, outside of the first few days of symptoms, requires a number of different medications addressing a variety of issues. DO NOT SHIRK OFF THE POTENTIAL LETHALITY OF THE ORIGINAL BIOWEAPON. I have several people I know well, personally, both young, vibrant and healthy, who almost died from covid. My wood cutting guy is one of those people…..early 30’s, strong as an ox, out in the sun all day, eats mostly home cooked meals etc……..and he was in ICU for 6 weeks and then hospitalized for 2 additional weeks……almost died twice. It infuriates me when this bioweapon is addressed in such a dismissive manner……..
+3 # Never at homeacschilling 2021-12-04 17:43
People get sick and report themselves to a hospital. No one is dropping dead outside of a hospital. That 8 weeks was a big money maker. Your admin must be thrilled.
+4 # Do not get the jabs……Not everJessiebeaner 2021-12-04 10:49
Although I take this bioweapon seriously I would NEVER TAKE A JAB…….just strengthen your immune system to the max. On YT, Renu Mahtani, a vitamin D expert presents incredible information. Watch her videos. Rarely a single person would have died if they had immediately stated taking the recommended amount of vitamin D daily……as per Mahtani. Hint…..anyone in the northern hemisphere who is an adult needs at least 10,000 IU daily……based upon RESEARCH STUDIES.
# Somehwere I read that 7000 IU is the maximumMan of the Atom 2021-12-04 21:00
We take 2000 IU daily and at work 4 days a week I take another 1000 IU. D3 is not water soluble like C and the B vitamins - it builds up in tissues like vitamins A and E.

People with immune suppression (such as after "vaccination"?) IMO should take selenium yeast or selenium methione 100 to 200 micrograms a day. The maximum for that I have read is 400 micrograms a day. Garlic is good to eat or take as supplements as is onions or quercetin.
+2 # JabJnene 2021-12-04 17:06
I would be willing to bet the two you talked about took the jab and that’s what almost killed. Not unless they sick before the jab came out.
+3 # "Actually Hal" 2021-12-04 09:59
As you well know "Those Who Took The 2 Jabs Already Can Keep Your Heads Up Your Ass Cause Your Dead People Walking Injected With Graphene Hydro Oxide Which Is Nano Razor Blades That Can Never Be Removed That Slice And Dice Your Heart And Brain Until You Die Living 2 Years Max And Instant Death If Injection Hits A Vein." It was done this way to "Space Deaths Too Not Happen All At Once." The Best You can do is "Make Out A Good 'WILL' with Your Attorney for Your Surviving Family."
-5 # You are an arrogant assholeJessiebeaner 2021-12-04 11:56
I know very good, CHRISTIAN, people who got a jab because their very frail, elderly parents are in a nursing home. These people made a conscious decision to risk their own future health so that their ELDERLY FRAIL PARENTS would not suffer the cruel reality of isolation, loneliness, and confusion. Assholes like you would never understand that level of willingness to SACRIFICE YOUR OWN LIFE IN ORDER TO COMFORT A DYING PARENT. YOU , AND EVERYBODY LIKE YOU, CAN GET FUCKED AND DIE ALREADY. SHOVE YOUR ARROGANT CONDEMNATION UP YOUR ASS AND CHOKE ON IT.
+1 # That's not good either, Jessie.Paul Lambert 2021-12-05 05:04
The average life expectancy of those few who do die from COVID is higher than the average life expectancy overall.

Those who reluctantly get the shot in order to visit their elderly relatives are entitled to that, I suppose, but when the whole world is locked down and all our lives are put on hold because COVID might kill an 83-year-old grandmother who statistically should only have lived to be 82, then I wonder just who is being selfish.

Not blaming the elderly either. I am sure an 82-year-old grandmother would want nothing more than to hug her grandchildren one last time and then die the next day, as opposed to not seeing her loved ones again and living six more months.
# You are a damn foolJessiebeaner 2021-12-04 10:55
I have no idea where you get your information but it is NOT INSTANT DEATH if a vein is hit. Many people have had a vein hit, and can actually taste the injection(in their mouth) within seconds. They DO NOT INSTANTLY DIE, but many develop severe problems. As well , there is NO DATA to support your 2 year bullshit…..none. Guesses have been made, based upon the actual survival of the lab animals, but the variation in survival time, post injection, varied with the species injected. People like you make the entire alternative community look like a bunch of illiterate jackasses. Just keep your fucking mouth shut unless you really do understand the science and data.
+1 # STFUselah 2021-12-04 20:56
We don’t like people like you around here.
+2 # JabJnene 2021-12-04 17:08
I have no doubt you are telling the truth but some do die right after the jab.
+2 # The Lust to Make Filthy Lucre?acturner067 2021-12-04 09:33
How about the creation of more industries by fear?
+4 # RE: UK: Scientific Advisory Group Announces COVID Troubles for "Five more years" -- VAX and Testing for "Decade" More!Gunner 2021-12-04 04:57
Of course. It will likely Never stop. Keep on you damn DUMB SHEEP.
# Ohh, No, it will end quicklyHaarnaś 2021-12-04 08:25
with the anticipated mortality of 2-3billion this winter alone, the rest of the undesirables in the human race will die off over the next year or two until there are only 500 million left. It will all be done in slow motion by the death-shots!
# Anticipated mortalityJessiebeaner 2021-12-04 11:59
Nobody knows what the mortality will be and that “anticipated” number was provided by WHOM? State your sources or shut up and stop with the fucking fear porn.
# JessieBeanerPaul Lambert 2021-12-05 04:47
Instead of waxing indignant at those of us here for not quoting sources or for having concerns about something that will change our very lives, try to see it from our perspective.

State your sources? I am very much looking for sources that would address such concerns and allay our fears, but instead we get stonewalled, censored, ridiculed and dismissed out of hand simply for asking these questions.

More than any other question I have, I would like to find out how people who are not infected with COVID can spread that disease to people who are already vaccinated. In effect, one person's shot will only be effective if everyone else takes it. Has there ever been any other medication that worked like that? I have never been inoculated against yellow fever. Does that mean that I am walking around spreading yellow fever?

I go looking for answers and there are none. If I pose the question on line, the question is instantly erased without any response.

Usually, the more censorious one is, the weaker his position. The behaviour of the mainstream media and of the authorities strongly indicates that they have something to hide.

Consider too that the narrative is already coming out to cover up for any deaths and injuries that may be due to the vaccine. The media in Europe is now telling us that it is common for children to have heart attacks and strokes (and that some heart attacks are actually good for us!). They say that cold weather causes cancer, and that athletes dying suddenly is due to climate change. This is all bonkers stuff, Jessie.

Now that a moral element has been added, namely that people who refuse to get the shot are not merely exposing themselves to danger, but that they are evil, selfish people who should be shunned and cut out of society, it is impossible not to think that something sinister is going on. On this side of the pond, "incitement to hatred" is a criminal offence, yet the very governments here are doing nothing but inciting hatred against the unvaccinated. Talking about fear porn - the state and media have successful made an entire planet terrified over an illness that very few people actual contract, and of those who do virtually everyone survives.

You are not helping matters with your vitriol on this forum. If you have real information or logical arguments that you think would clear things up for us, offer those instead. This has become a rather urgent issue for me personally, so a sane and level-headed discussion from your side would be most welcome.
+4 # The definition of INSANITYSmiley1984*! 2021-12-04 02:59
The definition of insanity, according to Einstein, is to keep repeating the same experiment-and expect a different result!
They will NEVER get ahead of a virus that can continually mutate, especially when in an environment of a "leaky" vaccine says Mike Yeadon, ex CEO of Pfizer.
The UK now has an enormous CANCER problem due to the backlog caused by Covid measures, 60,000 urgent cases. How many deaths will result?
+2 # Talking of Albert with a big head, he wanted nothing to do with Israel. In fact, he was offered a political position in the Holy Land,Haarnaś 2021-12-04 08:35
(Jews wanted to make him Prime Minister). However, he not only refused, but wrote al long letter to NY Times in 1948, when it was still a very good paper. It was cosigned by 20 other most prominent Jews in the US. It castigated Israel as Nazi-Terrorist state and specifically two Polish Gangsters, Begin and Ben-Gurion by name. Einstein's famous big head figured it all out from the very beginning and he wanted nothing to do with that rotten bunch of terrorists!
+1 # The fact isBushDid911 2021-12-04 04:13
Let's be honest , even though a given death is a personal tragedy EVERYONE dies .
No one gets out of this Alive .
So wether you die from COVID ( not) or cancer ,get hit by a bus ,reach 99 or 29 your still going to die .
So I suggest we stop the Lazer sharp focus on this world and put some effort into the next one ?
Most of you know about Jesus but do you really know know him ?
If not now is the time my friends .
End times and you can feel it can't you ?
I have a brilliant Bible study course free if anyone wants it ??
Just let me know .
-3 # Not from a brilliant Brit like you IsraHellDID911Haarnaś 2021-12-04 07:44
Quoting BushDid911:

I have a brilliant Bible study course free if anyone wants it ??

No, but no thank you
-3 # RE: Not from a brilliant Brit like you IsraHellDID911Haarnaś 2021-12-04 08:16
Quoting Haarnaś:
Quoting BushDid911:

I have a brilliant Bible study course free if anyone wants it ??

No, but no thank you

With 47000 different heretical Christian denominations worldwide, what are the chances that this Brit tit's denomination is consonant with one of the 200 plus heretical denomination in the US. You are better off waiting for the illumination of conscience which is coming up imminently rather than wasting time and money on the Troll's spiritual rubbish.

If you are Jewish heretic, likewise, stick to your own current heresies. Enoch and Elijah prophets (whom you will kill and whose bodies will lie in the streets of Jerusalem for three days) are on the way and will convert a large portion of you imminently. Instead read a book Fr. Elijah: An Apocalypse by a prominent Canadian Catholic writer and icon painter, Michael D. O'Brien about how Jews get liberated from the clutches of Satan and Lucifer by Enoch and Elijah who are Polish Jewish (ie the worst) and converts themselves!
-2 # RE: Not from a brilliant Brit like you IsraHellDID911Haarnaś 2021-12-04 08:20
Polish Jewish (ie the worst) and converts themselves!
Should be: Polish Jews like Begin, Ben-Gurion and Satanyahu (ie the worst)
-3 # You fucking haterJessiebeaner 2021-12-04 12:00
Your rotten soul will burn in hell
+2 # CarefulPaul Lambert 2021-12-04 19:12
We curse ourselves when we curse others. You don't seem to like Haarnas (erstwhile Harnas) very much at all. Do you really think he is worth damaging your own soul?
+1 # I think there was a story on this very site indicating the ChiComs had tricked us into doing thisMan of the Atom 2021-12-04 01:38
+3 # Spot on Hal!Lexie 2021-12-04 00:56
Covid is made up ,they can't even see it in a petrie dish for heavens best it is a made up computer model and they aren't showing anyone. Been trying to convey this message for nearly a year to friends and family , some listen ,most choose not to ...the EU, revealed as Nazis, are pushing to scrap the Nuremburg Code ...can you believe that? These fascists have redefined the meaning of the concept 'strawman' just like cattle people will be chipped and marked according to status ,education etc..
+1 # Covid is a bioweaponJessiebeaner 2021-12-04 10:59
When you idiots state your bullshit you fail to explain the pathology of the covid disease. The pathology is, for many people, extreme inflammation in all organs with ace2 receptors. That syndrome is not caused by the flu.
+3 # AnagramsJane C 2021-12-04 00:25

Omicron B = No Crimbo

Delta Omicron = Media Control
+3 # When will you people realise?BushDid911 2021-12-03 23:50
Just watch V for Vendetta .
It might as well be the blue print .
-5 # Brit Bullfeathers as usual from IsraHellDID911Haarnaś 2021-12-04 07:41
Quoting BushDid911:
Just watch V for Vendetta ...

On this forum folks do not watch the Boob tube, they read books and professional journals!
+2 # 1984 (the book, of course))Paul Lambert 2021-12-04 19:16
remains relevant.

I don't know whether V for Vendetta was a book first or not. At any rate, it lacked the same depth of understanding shown in 1984.
+6 # MissouriRush 2021-12-03 23:29
Local fair sized Hospital in NW Mo.
Rumor says - almost all the workers there are vaxed, and almost all now have covid - - but - Administration telling them to NOT get tested. If bad sick, stay home, but they are now kicking out non-vaxed, so are short of help. If all got tested, would need to close the hospital. Ha. And tomorrow is their last day to get vaxed, or they are fired.
Again, Rumor.
# "The Marching Morons"Man of the Atom 2021-12-04 21:07
One of these days I may have to read that science fiction novel - it seems to have been prescient.
+3 # This may be but a rumor,Haarnaś 2021-12-04 07:37
but this is exactly how the corporate world of hospital chains has always operated. Even the Catholic non-profit ones. Over the last 20-30 years, they were all bought up by various for-profit corporations and assumed a corporate identity, while still ostensibly maintaining the original founding chapters written for penniless nuns over a hundred years ago! All it takes is a couple of Jewish lawyers and anyone can do it. Remember, old adage about corporations: GM does not make cars, it makes money!
+1 # RE: MissouriGunner 2021-12-04 05:00
It does Not surprise me at all. WTF. SMH!!


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