At about 2:30 AM eastern US time on Thursday, shelling and mortar fire from Ukraine forces began hitting both Donetsk and Luhansk.   Ukraine is seven hours AHEAD of U.S. eastern time, so the shelling began around 7:30 PM Wednesday night on the US east Coast time zone.


-1 # One WriterDoug Brown 2022-02-18 11:58
One writer kindly sent in footage from a Ukrainian news outlet showing that pre-emptive moves were currently underway in Western Ukraine to effectively cut Russia off at the knees.
If the report is credible, Ukraine forces are currently pushing to encircle the areas in dispute.
Ukraine believes that in making such a first move they will cripple Russian's promis to protect the Dombass and such a pre-emptive move will settle the issue.
If Putin allows these Russian speaking areas, the Dombass, to be inhabited by Ukrainian forces, the world will look unfavorably toward Putin and count his word as baseless.
+4 # hope you’re ok, HalKdasl 2022-02-18 10:03
praying for your safety
+1 # What happpenedPboyd35227 2022-02-18 09:56
Where did you go ? No updates since last night
-2 # DangerSpetsnaz7 2022-02-18 09:44
Putin will take part in a Nuclear War exercise on Saturday
+1 # Bank holidayKdasl 2022-02-18 09:26
is this coming Monday, the timing of that could mean something
# Monday is president's dayLilBirdie 2022-02-18 09:29
Bank holidays are declared on Friday, late Friday.
# RE: Monday is president's dayForrest Mosby 2022-02-18 17:54
Quoting LilBirdie:
Bank holidays are declared on Friday, late Friday.

Tuesday is 2/22/2022
# We don’t have one.Gregg W 2022-02-18 11:26
Hmmm. Won’t matter in the U.S. we are without a president.
-1 # Ya but,oldschool 2022-02-18 13:53
Quoting Gregg W:
Hmmm. Won’t matter in the U.S. we are without a president.

We have a Vice President ! :-)
+1 # Ok Putin draws the unites into donbassselah 2022-02-18 09:10
And now it’s the ukies invading. Splendid!
-1 # The former Uke Nazi spy in Trump's White House, Lt. Colonel Aleksandr Vindman was "prescient". He "predicted" on MSNBC that kinetic war with Russia will be preceded by cyber-attacks in Ukraine that will "spill over to the rest of the world".Haarnaś 2022-02-18 09:09
This already happened in Ukraine and Canada with Candian banks such as the Royal Bank internet pages down due to a cyber-attacks.

Russians seem to be taking over Ukraine in controlled fashion without much opposition and no casualties (Ukrainian reserves have not been mobilized), as Hal has pointed out in his report and on the radio. Those 120 mm howitzer cannonades appear to be shooting, as everyone here noticed, past their targets and just exploding in the air high above ground.

There is explanation for this. V. Zelensky was elected in Ukraine with money collected in Russia. We have known from high level Russian defectors (Russian GRU colonels and Securitate Generals such as Ion Pacepa in Romania) that Russia never lost control of the political structures of Ukraine. Why? It is because it always intended a comeback in the future after it "gave up" Ukraine in 1991. Ten billion dollars was paid by the US at that time to the Uke Nazis as a compensation for their loss of nuclear missiles, which were sent from Ukraine to Russia for "dismantling" (but in fact were just put in Russian storage). The whole Russian "invasion" appears to be a sham. The Red Army will be just driving through Eastern Ukraine to retake something they never intended to give up!

If this supposition proves to be the case, then the whole house of cards that has been built up by the media, including the alternative media about the Russian being upset about a few dozens of missile anti-rockets placed by NATO in Easter Poland and Romania, that can be loaded with nuclear warheads in one hour, vanishes like last night's dream! I believe that Russians have another agenda that if far more sinister!

It is not in the Scofield Reference Babble, all ye heretics, bit the sequence of events before WWIII really begins is the Great Warning with a Crucifix with a corpus in the sky finally ushering the WWIII and the Great Chastisement!
+3 # RudenessDoug Brown 2022-02-18 12:01
Harnas please permanently leave this site and take your insufferable rudeness along with you.
+1 # NHBWTAW1NGXER0 2022-02-18 08:52
No Holds Barred Winner Takes All.
-3 # Not quite right!Haarnaś 2022-02-18 09:25
Quoting W1NGXER0:
No Holds Barred Winner Takes All.

This little war in Eastern Ukraine is nothing more than Kabuki theater
G O N E..
# RE : Ukraine Explodes Into BattleRedlist Renegade 2022-02-18 09:09
And just when we think we have all the answers they change the damn questions on us !!!
-3 # ForeSeenHeroBeer 2022-02-18 06:24
foreseen bij me, since 1982, and foresaid by me since 1992 ...!!
-1 # RE: ForeSeenHaarnaś 2022-02-18 09:15
Quoting HeroBeer:
foreseen bij me, since 1982, and foresaid by me since 1992 ...!!

"Foresaid" what, pray tell? Are you some kind of witchdoctor, seer or a prophet?
+2 # thats your fancy western democracy life after WW3daniel_martin 2022-02-18 01:30
+2 # RE : that's your fancy western democracy life after WW3Redlist Renegade 2022-02-18 09:15
And Welcome to the Grave New World !!!
+1 # Pretext?..SpookDad 2022-02-18 01:15
# Spookdad's linkBruce Oxenford 2022-02-18 09:05
Spookdad, unsure why you originally had a negitive down vote. I up voted your comment. The information seemed plausible.
+5 # The eyeSpetsnaz7 2022-02-18 01:10
This is the result of the Biden regime and promises made to the military industrial complex, the military refused to help Trump secure the voting machines and hold a new election under military control, to allow him to use the insurrection act because the powers that be promised to make them fat with a huge war so let the games begin
+8 # "The Red Horse" 2022-02-18 00:08
+7 # What Putin wantsPesky Varmint 2022-02-17 23:22
My theory. Would like to hear opinions:

Putin is smart enough that he doesn't really care about that shithole the Ukraine.

Putin intends to get what he wants from NATO (which means from the USA). By whatever means necessary.
+1 # RE: What Putin wantscroco 2022-02-18 07:26
Someone thought that the new world order should not include Russia at the table of those who matter, Putin does not agree and what we see now is the negotiation of an important, very important position in leading the new world order .... so the stories with Putin savior ... these are just stories ... just two words, it's about Russia's position on the right side of the cock .... on the other hand we the people, we are and will always be on the wrong side
+8 # Photos of damageGunner91 2022-02-17 23:01
Looked at the photos of damage in the article. Did not see any evidence of explosions. There was a hole punched in school wall with no indications of smoke or fire. I am not an explosives expert. It just seemed odd to me. Maybe someone was catapulting bowling balls??
+8 # There are three kinds...Gulfcaptain 2022-02-18 02:18
There are three kinds of shells. One, non explosive, one explosive and another designed to create fires among other type shells of which there are several. These may be the non explosive type. Damage but not too much. Fired for effect not casualties. Ukraine is trying to lure Russia in. Pictures of dead Eastern Donbas civilians would not look good for Ukraine. So, lob "bowling balls" as you say.
+2 # RE: Photos of damagePalehorse 2022-02-17 23:32

Those two old buildings look to be just that,
two old buildings that collapsed 5 years ago.
+12 # Biden's Urgency for WarDoug Brown 2022-02-17 22:47
You forget.
Biden's sickly performance as President is going to cost the US Senate, and the House of Representatives their majorities, and cause major irrevocable losses.
With new clear-cut Republican majorities they are threatening to impeach Biden.
The Democrats know they are going to lose big.
"My God, this can't happen," they say.
They know they stand fair to win if there is war.

Secondly, the treachery of the vaccines will be successfully covered up under the blaze of war fire.
Truth doesn't matter. Truth never matters.
Love Hal's show.
We in southern Texas salute!
+8 # RE: Biden's Urgency for Warselah 2022-02-17 23:34
2020 is not fixed. What makes you think 2022 will be any different? Do you not believe that until all voting machines are eliminated there is no chance for fair elections.
+1 # They own the electionnorthshorepaul 2022-02-18 09:58
Quoting selah:
2020 is not fixed. What makes you think 2022 will be any different? Do you not believe that until all voting machines are eliminated there is no chance for fair elections.

Those that are in power own the voting machines and thus they will own the elections from here on out.
+5 # RE: Biden's Urgency for WarPesky Varmint 2022-02-17 23:18
The dems have figured out how to win with corrupt methods. Get over it. We're screwed.
The times are backwards as far as time zones go. If it is 2:30am here it is 9:30AM in Ukraine, not 7:30PM.
+13 # Demons at the helm...Etsel Skelton 2022-02-17 22:14
If you think the Globalist stooges have behaved badly over the last two years, just wait until they have war powers to use against us.
+13 # Russia's plans?Hope springs 2022-02-17 22:00
Russia genuinely does not want war. She will try to suppress the Ukraine attacks in Donbass as best. If that doesn't work, only then will she be forced to enter and take over Kiev.
In either case she must keep great vigil and sufficient reserve to prevent NATO aggression.
Just my view. Sorry for the log post.
+13 # RE: Russia's plans?RockyMountainBeerMan 2022-02-17 22:16
Russia has been bending over backwards with diplomacy.

Me, I think that, since Russia sees NATO as the problem, Russia is going to try to remove NATO.
+4 # True ..LilBirdie 2022-02-18 00:55
I've felt that also.
Makes US the main target.
# RE: True ..tslinger 2022-02-18 09:04
Scripturally speaking...I can see that working toward fulfillment. Most likely.
Funny thing happened this evening, my neighbor approached me and asked what was going on over in Russia, I tried to explain the situation to him as well as I could. I think he senses something; he has never approached me in that manner.

I told him to get cash and stock up on groceries, I ran into him a few minutes later at the grocery store … go figure… he feels it too.
# UK, Poland and Ukraine Form New AlliancePalehorse 2022-02-17 21:15

"The UK and Poland will continue to provide
Ukraine with support, standing in unity with
Ukraine, in the face of ongoing Russian
aggression, and fully committed to stand with
Ukrainian nation in its efforts aimed at defending
Ukraine's sovereignty..."
+1 # RE : UK, Poland and Ukraine Form New AllianceRedlist Renegade 2022-02-18 09:31
They going to get Burned to the ground by Russia if they're not VERY Careful !!!
-2 # This has been reported and commented upon already several times by others on this forum, Kevin, along with analysis and implications of such a treaty!Haarnaś 2022-02-18 08:07
What is your hypothesis, Kevin? What is your geopolitical analysis? What does such a pact mean for Europe and the US? Are these three countries traditional allies or enemies? Can Poland ever trust the other two? If it cannot, why would it ever sign such an idiotic treaty? Does the treaty make any sense and who is behind it, maybe the Santa Claus? Formulate and write up your hypothesis, Kevin the Dodo bird. Snippets of news like you regurgitated her in the forum just do not make any sense to forumnauts without further discussion of the historical and geopolitical precedents of such a treaty.

You also did not quote any passages and references from the Scofield Reference Babble to support your non-existent thesis!

In summary, I would say just stick to your repetitive regurgitations of Covid news!
-1 # I care not for your evil counsel.Palehorse 2022-02-18 08:58
-1 # RE: I care not for your evil counsel.Haarnaś 2022-02-18 11:09
Quoting Palehorse:

Kevin, you still did not write up your hypothesis. I am not your lawyer do give you counsel. I am just asking follow-up questions based on your excellent, but not a new find that should not go without comment! Do not forget to support your arguments with your Scofield Babble references!
+1 # SAM376 arrives in 2022-02-17 20:28
Today Special Air Mission 376 departed Andrew (DC) stopped in LGA ( New York) briefly, just landed Munich approximately 8pm est…..VPofUS and staff??
+7 # RE: SAM376 arrives in MunichHalTurner 2022-02-17 22:09
No. Secretary of State Antony Blinken.
+4 # 2022-02-17 22:28
OK……ummm, so why do I still feel uneasy? Oh, right, he’s as inept as she is. SMH and heading out to top off my gas tank & hit the ATM while it’s still functioning.

Thanks for all you do, Hal.
+2 # Blinkensully 2022-02-17 21:22
That was probably Anthony Blinken...
+7 # Rússia and Ukrainedaniel_martin 2022-02-17 20:27
Is like those Crazy couples "I cant live with you and I cant live without you". Thats a Lot of bad blood between them. Ukrainians even fought with Nazis vs Rússia. Like any mad couple they fight now they come back tomorrow over and over. Theres nothing good coming out of It for you to get involved. Even the icecold VP gets emotional everytime he talks Ukraine.This cannot and Will not end well for The West. Remember Rússia is 2-3 generations ahead on Nukes/Missiles
+4 # RE: Rússia and Ukrainedaniel_martin 2022-02-17 20:32
Bottomline every mad love Storie ends up in tragedy
+11 # Just got homeoldschool 2022-02-17 19:04
Now I gotta run to the bank and the grocery store.
# UhhhhRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-02-17 22:11
Way too late.
# RE: Uhhhholdschool 2022-02-18 00:50
Meant to say ATM
+4 # Preppingsully 2022-02-17 21:02
The best time to prepare for a crisis, is before the crisis... ;-)
+5 # RE: Just got homejrd803 2022-02-17 20:56
Actually that may be a good idea. Back in early 2020 when the corona-chan came to Japan a rumor started that there would be no paper left in the country because it was all going to be used to make masks to protect against the virus (the masks are actually made of plastic fibers, so this was a completely unfounded rumor).

So, in about 12 hours all the paper products disappeared from stores - any kind of tissue, kitchen towels, feminine products, and, of course, all the masks. Then, within a week or so, all the alcohol products were gone. In Tokyo I heard that the panic in some areas was worse and all the rice disappeared from stores (rice came back very very quickly as it was a very localized hoarding event).

It took a year for alcohol products to come back, almost that long for masks. Paper products came back earlier but Costco Japan was rationing them for a while - only two small packs to a family per visit.

We went to a local drug store the evening of the day of the rumor and since we were not in Tokyo, we could still find some things - they weren't cleaned out yet.

But things can clean out very quickly, and some things (like masks, alcohol bottles, and alcohol wipes) took a long time for the supply chain to resupply due to a number of reasons.

The Japanese people are very polite and industrious so this whole thing happened very orderly and quiet way. May not be so polite and orederly in other countries.

My advice would be to make sure you have a supply of essentials in your homes, offices, and cars. (A little emergency kit in the car is always good to have anyway. And if it makes sense to have some basics in a corner of your desk at work.)

And Hal's advice to get personal communications gear is very good. The installed telecom and datacom networks that we have today are not nearly as robust as they were back in the days of the old Bell System - IMO. Also a shortwave radio is good to hear what is going on over the whole world.

Sorry for the long post.

+5 # RE: Just got homeBeenThere 2022-02-17 21:37
Everyone needs to talk to their family/friends about travel plans to wherever in case of emergency and no comms. That plan needs to be carefully planned out with paper maps and routes to take (on foot if need be) to avoid crowds and traffic/pedestrian jams. Ideally this needs to be done before an emergency. Make sure everyone understands the plans and routes and stick to it.
+12 # Let us go back to 2016 briefly....Buffalo356 2022-02-17 18:47
"You're going to end up in World War Three over Syria if we listen to Hillary Clinton," Trump said.

Potential For U.S.-Russia Conflict Seen With Clinton's Syria Plan

Seriously, how do you think the Russians are going to react to any attempt by NATO to implement a no fly zone in the Ukraine?
+5 # RememberHOOVER 2022-02-17 20:09
Syria's President actually asked Russia to send troops into their country. We (the USA) invited ourselves. Russia has intimidated us over and over. We are a joke.
+16 # Didn't...J Grayman 2022-02-17 19:00
...Putin say if she had won in 2016, the nukes would of flown?
+4 # No Fly Zone!Smiley1984*! 2022-02-17 18:37
The UK proposal for a NO Fly Zone: here we go just like with Libya, so they can attack anywhere unopposed, an excuse to shoot down any aircraft
deemed to be contravening the NFZ order!

The UK seem to be up to their necks in this affair, what is their interest in the Ukraine, why the support of a Neo Nazi regime?

American and British blood is about to be spilled, what is the purpose, what is the prize, is it just military contracts or something else?
+1 # what is their interest in the Ukraine ??oldschool 2022-02-17 20:44
Quoting Smiley1984*!:
The UK proposal for a NO Fly Zone: here we go just like with Libya, so they can attack anywhere unopposed, an excuse to shoot down any aircraft
deemed to be contravening the NFZ order!

The UK seem to be up to their necks in this affair, what is their interest in the Ukraine, why the support of a Neo Nazi regime?

American and British blood is about to be spilled, what is the purpose, what is the prize, is it just military contracts or something else?

My thoughts are along with what Hal has mentioned before. If NATO could take Ukraine that would put them on Russia's front door step and therefore put them in strategic missile range of Moscow. Which is a rediculous pipe dream, and a suicide mission to boot.
So I don't know, I just don't know ???
Your guess is as good as mine.
+11 # No Fly Zone.northshorepaul 2022-02-17 18:34
Let me get this straight, the UK wants to establish a no-fly zone over Ukraine to protect it against a Russian invasion! So if a NATO aircraft sees a Russian aircraft flying over Ukraine it would then fire upon it if it did not retreat? That folks would be an act of war against Russia and would make all parties in NATO subject to reprisals. Don't look for aircraft coming to a capitol city near you in Europe, look or listen for a hypersonic missile as it passes by because in my opinion that will be how they will respond.

Am one of the guilt ones checking and checking for updates

After topping off our house again with supplies and more gas cans am a little short on Capital at the moment ... sending over $25

Hope that helps to offset

Please Keep the news updates coming

Thanks again for all you do

+11 # NATO & Nazi'sSmiley1984*! 2022-02-17 18:05
It's NATO and the Nazi's that want this war; to justify NATO's existence and take down Russia. Also to sell arms and cover the Covid scam.

Without Russia as an adversary NATO has no justifiable purpose, and is seen for what it is; a tool of American hegemony.

I knew when Jens Stoltenberg of NATO offered to get involved in"The South China Sea" he was a trouble seeking warmonger!

NATO is no more than a guard dog for western oligarchs treasure, and Russia has fed it some poisoned meat, showing its vulnerability.

Time to bury NATO, its leaders, and those Nazi's who want WAR in EUROPE!
+6 # NoThe_Big_Guy ACCOUNT TERMINATED 2022-02-17 18:16
Not nazis, bolcheviks...huge difference
+2 # americaldocKevin Mills 2022-02-17 19:01
Nazi like sentiments run high in Ukraine
+2 # UmmThe_Big_Guy ACCOUNT TERMINATED 2022-02-17 20:23
No they don't..the "nazis" fifnt call themselves nazis, they were national socialists, and the bolcheviks in Ukraine are doing nothing of what the 3rd Reich did, absolutely nothing..
+1 # NOPEgjones7777 2022-02-18 01:32
he Bolsheviks, also known in English as the Bolshevists, were a radical, far-left, and revolutionary Marxist faction founded by Vladimir Lenin that split with the Mensheviks from the Marxist Russian Social Democratic Labour Party, a revolutionary socialist political party formed in 1898,

Nazism is a form of fascism,[2][3][4][5] with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed.

+9 # Hal's comment regarding FEMABruce Oxenford 2022-02-17 18:01
If Hal's remarks regarding FEMA being instructed to go immediately after work and get enough food water and medicines for theirselves and families, don't make you get up immediately and top of your supplies as best as possible, then I'm not sure what will. It is understandable that individuals have varying means of savings, however, a global or partial shutdown of financial transacting would definitely make even those with enough contingencies prepared and planned for, rethink their own plans, if the credit lines and bank transfers were to stay down for more than 3 days.
+16 # Damn it Hal!Bob 2022-02-17 17:56
as much as we all love and appreciate your updates, PLEASE GET READY TO BUG OUT!!!

You need to take care of yourself and your family first. I don't think you can scour the web, talk to your intel people and get ready to leave.

So, thank you for keeping us all updated and now will you please get ready to bug out???

Prayers for you, your family and the extended Hal Turner Radio Show family.
+8 # He already has.kimberK 2022-02-17 18:14
He's in PA
+8 # RE: He already has.imback 2022-02-17 18:38
I hope he is in PA but I thought he went back to NJ because of snow forecast and plowing. Hal if you are not in PA please go now
+4 # WatchSrmay72 2022-02-17 17:54
Very important at the 24:00 mark.
+1 # RE: Watchimback 2022-02-17 18:58
Quoting Srmay72:
Very important at the 24:00 mark.

Very good video especially starting at 24:00 mark.

Just accusing without showing evidence smells like a false flag. It's like saying anthrax and never finding it as a pretense for war. Why should anything be believed. If you like your healthcare and Doctor you can keep it. Read my lips no new taxes. I did not have sex with that woman. Just 15 days to flatten the curve. They have weapons of mass destruction. You have to pass the bill to see whats in it. Russian Collusion. and lets not forget the 1 billion dollars Joe held up in aid for Ukraine until the prosecutor was fired. The vaccines are voluntary. BLM are peaceful protesters. Fox is fair and balanced. And what about all the other trusted news networks. But I digress
+4 # ADS? 2022-02-17 17:53
So Hal, I have TRIED to go click on a few ads for you, I do this from time-to-time anyway. But, I KNOW you need it more now than ever ... only you know what? I CAN NOT FIND A SINGLE ONE TO CLICK ON . . .

Not on the home page, not on this page. I've scrolled up and down several different times during the day, thinking "oh, they'll show up", but now . . . I'm starting to wonder. WILL THEY? I'm sure you know it, but did you know they seem to be missing? Or am I just to old, blonde, dense and upset to find them?????
+1 # I'm old and blonde too,oldschool 2022-02-17 22:39
So Hal, I have TRIED to go click on a few ads for you, I do this from time-to-time anyway. But, I KNOW you need it more now than ever ... only you know what? I CAN NOT FIND A SINGLE ONE TO CLICK ON . . .

Not on the home page, not on this page. I've scrolled up and down several different times during the day, thinking "oh, they'll show up", but now . . . I'm starting to wonder. WILL THEY? I'm sure you know it, but did you know they seem to be missing? Or am I just to old, blonde, dense and upset to find them?????

but your right Sue I have no ads on any page either. Actually I never have seen any ads at anytime in the past. ???
+2 # RE: ADS?Avanarts 2022-02-17 18:32
The ads don't show if you are signed in. Sign out and look at the site as if you are a non-subscriber and you should find plenty of ads at the bottom of the page.
+2 # Adstmichelson 2022-02-17 18:25
Could not find either
+1 # Watch for gasSrmay72 2022-02-17 17:44
I've searched all day if Russia shut off natural gas yet, not yet. I did see on off grid dessert farming on youtube all over America saying that Russia is going to use nerve gas as a false flag in Ukraine he has the video of douchebag saying it HMMMM WHERE HAVE WE HEARD THAT FROM. FOLKS THIS MAKES ZERO SENCE. yes cv19. Is falling apart even Canadian stated romping mandates YET NO BLOWBACK. THEY KNOW THE WORLD NOW KNOWS OF GENE SPECIFIC BIOWEAPONS LORD I WATCHED AN NCIS RERUN FROM 2017 SAYING THEY ARE REAL. DEEP DOWN 75% ARE AFRAID IF THINGS ARE PUSHED TPTB , RUSSIA INCLUDED THERES NO GOOD GUY BAD GUY JUST SCRIPTS WRITTEN BY SATAN. I WOULD RATHER LIVE THROUGH 10 WW3S THEN ONE BIOWEAPON ATTACK THAT KILLS BILLIONS OF PEOPLE WITHOUT A SHOT
+3 # Test KitsDesertGirl 2022-02-17 17:41
Wow! I'd love to be able to copy that video of the so called Medical Test Kits and send it out to everyone I know.
+6 # since you asked nicelyhal9000 2022-02-17 17:48
+2 # Thanks!mussera 2022-02-17 18:14
Thank you Hal!
+2 # Test KitsDesertGirl 2022-02-17 17:52
Thank you!! God bless!!!
+2 # Video at the bottomRickN 2022-02-17 17:27
Hal video isn't there
+2 # RE: Video at the bottomRickN 2022-02-17 17:31
It finally came up. Took quite a while. Thanks for all you do brother!
Those Two sheds just look like run-down, left to decay structures. I can't imagine a missile or mortar hitting these and still seeing them standing. As for the school, that is a puzzle. If hit by a missile, would there not be more extensive damage other than a few bricks and soccer balls laying around.
Maybe a soccer ball caused the damage - darn kids [sarcasm]
+2 # .Haywardus 2022-02-17 20:07
120mm projectile from artillery, it is not a missile
+3 # odd marks on the metal poleshal9000 2022-02-17 17:16
Re: the shed pic ... take a close look at the metal poles. odd shrapnel signs coming toward the view of the camera and the metal sheared off at odd heights. cant put my finger on what exactly happened ... but could be result of a mortar explosion.
# odd marks on the metal polesJim Lewis 2022-02-17 18:34
noticed rabbit and fresh hay bottom right?
Turned off my ad blocker and clicked a few, will keep it up. Appreciate what Hal is doing. Few places have good info. I like the Saker, anyone else use it?
+1 # Good idea 2022-02-17 17:21
I had my ad blockers on.
Now during TV ad breaks , I can explore Hals ads.
Oh, the irony !
Hi Hal,
Have seen lots of sites which have a link to be able to send the price of a, or something along those lines. Quite sure if you had this facility those of us visiting would happily donate the price of a coffee if you had this facility...

What does the community here think?
+2 # Go for it !oldschool 2022-02-17 21:24
Quoting Janie:
Hi Hal,
Have seen lots of sites which have a link to be able to send the price of a, or something along those lines. Quite sure if you had this facility those of us visiting would happily donate the price of a coffee if you had this facility...

What does the community here think?

Good idea !
+4 # Donate NowBoris93 2022-02-17 17:03
Agreed. Would be great to see a Donate Now button at the top of the page or something similar.
+4 # DonatedBoris93 2022-02-17 17:54
Hal, thanks for putting up the donation link!
+3 # TY for the updatesmussera 2022-02-17 16:53
Thank you Hal for keeping us informed on what's going on! Stay safe!!
+2 # Oops...J Grayman 2022-02-17 17:07
Ment to hit thumbs up...guess I'm all thumbs today...I apologize!
+3 # RE: Oops...Davidh7 2022-02-17 17:11
I neutralized your thumbs down :)
+2 # Ads are not populatingKarriemosby 2022-02-17 16:46
Ads are not coming up, so there is no way to click on them. Are ads coming up for other people?
+2 # Scroll past commentsSrmay72 2022-02-17 17:22
Ads always pop up for me under comments
+3 # Ads ..sign out..Lexie 2022-02-17 16:55
Have you signed out ? Check after signing out.
+2 # RE: UKRAINE EXPLODES INTO BATTLE - BOTH SIDES ENGAGINGRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-02-17 16:44
What ads?? I don't see any.
# Aha!RockyMountainBeerMan 2022-02-17 16:50
I clicked on Disable Privacy Protection in my tablet's pull down menu and now the ads show up.

+3 # AdsWhy? 2022-02-17 16:40
Hey Hal I cannot see any of the ads, you might want to create a new page with only text updates to lower bandwidth and people refreshing to see updates that will be killing your data charges.
Hey no problem...been clicking on all the links below for the last 5
+7 # Support Halkeniaulibarria1 2022-02-17 16:37
Don’t forget to give some donations to Hal he deserves it, he’s doing an extra effort.
+3 # Genocide and war crimes committed - according to Moscow - by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 2022-02-17 16:31
Yesterday, the Russian president himself continued by talking about "Genocide" and reminding the Germans of the case of the ruthless bombing of Yugoslavia.

It is obvious that Moscow is not creating a "pretext for invasion" as reported by the US-Britain. Instead, it justifies a "Russian humanitarian operation" by reversing the Yugoslav case.

And this is a major issue for the West as Moscow deconstructs its institutions and humanitarian background.
+2 # Nukes to stay in 2022-02-17 16:28

According to traditional Russian practice, the President of Belarus, A. Lukashenko, detonated a "bomb" preparing the ground for the arrival of nuclear missiles in his country.

Note that we are not talking about Iskander-M ballistic systems that can also carry a nuclear warhead. ......
At the same time, Lukashenko confirmed to us again that, as he said , "Russian forces and S-400s will remain in the country." ......
"If necessary (…) we will develop not only nuclear weapons, but also supernuclear weapons, very promising weapons (what will the Russians give him?), In order to defend our territory, " Mr Lukashenko was quoted as saying by Belarus. Media.
+11 # Great communitydr4hrt4 2022-02-17 16:26
I agree with a previous comment about the followers of this forum, we are a pretty cool group; I like us. Let's keep each other informed and pull together in prayer. If you've read the Bible, then you know how this whole thing ends...
+2 # AgreedDoug Brown 2022-02-17 22:18
Even contributors with extremely bad manners, maybe they will become more civilized. Yes, even so, all welcome.
+10 # Thank you Hal!DesertGirl 2022-02-17 16:17
I'm just thankful for Hal and his website and all of you out there. God Bless!!!
+1 # WHAT happenedNZ KIWI 2022-02-17 16:15
to those cruise missile frigates ???did they return or are they placed near UKRAINE
+4 # Maybe in 2022-02-17 16:09
the people in the Dobas can see and hear and communicate about the incoming shelling. So, few casualties. If this keeps up overnight, and planes are brought in then the deaths will mount.
And Russia will be fully entitled to go over the border en masse in a humanitarian intervention.
+3 # Possibly the Wagner groupDummyemail@ 2022-02-17 19:38
Putin could easily bring in the Russian paramilitary group called The Wagner group to the Republics and raise havoc with the Ukraine military.
No need to bring in Russian troops at this time.
+1 # 2022-02-18 05:00
Putin is playing the USA at their own game - claiming to act under it's mandate.
# 2022-02-18 05:01
Wagner is to counter Stratfor.
+2 # hole in wall @ schoolMrBlotto 2022-02-17 16:04
That wall scene looks fake. I'm not a demo expert, but that hole looks like someone backed a big pole into it.

While it is impressive to have 3 layers of brick in the exterior wall, the modern munition should have pulverized the brick into a thick layer of masonry dust across all surfaces. And the round balls are still on the shelves of a bookcase on impacted wall.

So what was that wall hit with? Sabot mortar round (joke)? Unexploded HE mortar round? Utility pole?
+2 # I was thinkingoldschool 2022-02-17 21:11
Quoting MrBlotto:
That wall scene looks fake. I'm not a demo expert, but that hole looks like someone backed a big pole into it.

While it is impressive to have 3 layers of brick in the exterior wall, the modern munition should have pulverized the brick into a thick layer of masonry dust across all surfaces. And the round balls are still on the shelves of a bookcase on impacted wall.

So what was that wall hit with? Sabot mortar round (joke)? Unexploded HE mortar round? Utility pole?

exactly the same thing. It looks as if it were hit with a Dummy round / missile or like you said, Utility pole ?? Something funny here.
I worked with explosive's when I was in a Combat engineer battalion with the Guard.
I'm sure there are other folks here on this forum that have worked with explosives also.
A missile would have taken the entire corner out of that building and more.
+1 # And,oldschool 2022-02-17 21:19
I would have thought that a mortar round would have made a much bigger mess ?
+1 # RE: hole in wall @ schoolSuzuko804 2022-02-17 17:03
Quoting MrBlotto:
That wall scene looks fake. I'm not a demo expert, but that hole looks like someone backed a big pole into it.

While it is impressive to have 3 layers of brick in the exterior wall, the modern munition should have pulverized the brick into a thick layer of masonry dust across all surfaces. And the round balls are still on the shelves of a bookcase on impacted wall.

So what was that wall hit with? Sabot mortar round (joke)? Unexploded HE mortar round? Utility pole?

Shells do fail to explode on impact. Also simple looking at that hole it is obvious to see more is knocked out at the bottom than the top suggesting the projectile came in at a downward angle.
# Autists on itMrBlotto 2022-02-17 18:40
SPG-9 - watch embedded video in post. Goes through outside wall and through an interior wall
# 2022-02-17 16:21
+19 # Just have to say...J Grayman 2022-02-17 15:55
This is a great community; Hal's subscribers rock! Lots of info, opinions, advice, prayers, and some back and forth, which I think is great. Most of us are here to find some truth among all the crap that's flowing everywhere. I pray that all of us here can continue to help each other, share our info and hopefully learn something that we may apply NOW to survive this mess of a world that lies in the hands of the evil one! I pray Ps 91 over everyone here. God bless, get prayed up, eyes open, and be at peace!
+5 # Closer...tslinger 2022-02-17 15:36
That hook appears just about to be set...
# Don't like the Sound Of ThatDoug Brown 2022-02-17 22:27
Hook in the jaw, right?
Troubling imagery even if Biblically based.
I've always imagined the impossibility of volitional movement of a huge beast with a hook in it's jaw. Went deep sea fishing once and remember the size of the hooks. Truly huge and monsterous. Now symbolically think of the size of a hook that would be capable of hooking a nation and drawing it forth. Russia? Like, not wanting to but having no choice. Omnious.
+1 # PropagandaDesertGirl 2022-02-17 15:30
More US propaganda: from Blinken at UN summit over his 'dangerous' claim that Putin might launch false flag chemical weapons attack before invading Ukraine - and insists Russian troops ARE retreating - from Daily Mail.
-4 # Pansy alertSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-02-17 15:25
The buddy system still working so nothing's going to happen they have everything under control this is pain the alert central over buddy system still intact
-3 # Pansy alertSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-02-17 15:25
The buddy system still working so nothing's going to happen they have everything under control this is pain the alert central over
# EmojiDitka1985 2022-02-17 15:22
How one can't see they gave us January 6 ad nauseum is the exact mirror of the first biblical month September 6. Then they gave us February 16. The EXACT mirror of the day noah went into ark. Which means 7 days later on feb 23 new york will be nuked by Iran. They honestly cannot make this more clear, but of course it's all a conspiracy theory and then on feb 23 a coincidence when NY gets wiped off of the map followed by LA the very next day. T-6 days. Good luck
+4 # US Air Force Trafficcathbad 2022-02-17 15:08
For the past three days, I've noticed pairs of B-52 bombers flying from Minot AFB, ND around ND and SD. Lots of KC -135 tankers flying around Montana and eastern Washington state (Fairchild AFB is there). On Tuesday, three of those tankers arrived at Fairchild from McGuire AFB, New Jersey. One AF surveillance aircraft was flying around southern Ontario, Canada. Had transponder turned off for a while. Today pairs of KC-135 tankers flying from Fairchild AFB going over to SD. Not unusual to see tankers flying around over here, but now flying in pairs and more numerous than usual. One tanker appeared over Vancouver Island, Canada when it turned it's transponder on, heading south. Pairs of bombers flying. Pairs of tankers. One tanker to refuel one bomber.
+1 # RE: US Air Force Trafficmattbarninger 2022-02-17 15:58
Worried about an invasion.
+3 # Ukraine worseningMary Wehrman 2022-02-17 15:05
With Hal's continual updates today (thank you) it seems likely that we are about to see what we dread... serious civilian and military casualties. Citizen evacuations out of DonBass frontline villages is a clear indication IMO. Further dis / misinformation is to be expected as are increasing cyber attacks. When the long range rockets and heavy artillery fires begin, then it is too late for more blathering at the UN SC. Will there be a false flag or flags? I think attempts will be made, accusations hurled but too late once the serious shooting starts. I wait for Putin's next statement, but it is 10pm in Kiev now and hopefully things will quiet down for awhile. Soon though, we'll have more signs of coming war as things stand now. Be safe in case grid disruptions or worse happen here too..
+14 # Keep calmJamestannon 2022-02-17 14:59
Keep calm....

Even if events get 'exciting/scary' you can still stay calm...or at least act like it.

Slow down, remember to breath, use your full field of vision. You can be calm in the storm.
The people around you will need that.

You have extra food, you know how to deal with fallout.

Even if you hear that atomic mushrooms are exiting their steel casings you'll be ok. In a first strike situation only 20% are likely to die (in the first hit).

Stay calm. Go through your plans again. Pray.
# To deal with fallout,oldschool 2022-02-17 21:36
Quoting Jamestannon:
Keep calm....

Even if events get 'exciting/scary' you can still stay calm...or at least act like it.

Slow down, remember to breath, use your full field of vision. You can be calm in the storm.
The people around you will need that.

You have extra food, you know how to deal with fallout.

Even if you hear that atomic mushrooms are exiting their steel casings you'll be ok. In a first strike situation only 20% are likely to die (in the first hit).

Stay calm. Go through your plans again. Pray.

I have everything except the Gas Mask's and the Hazmat suit's. I'm afraid the fallout might just fall me out.
+6 # NoRockyMountainBeerMan 2022-02-17 15:16
Act just as panicked as everyone around you, otherwise you stand out:

"Hey, he's not scared... Why? What does he have that we need/want??"
+1 # Mariupol - PortTheProphet 2022-02-17 14:58
Interesting... Mariupol is a port city on the Sea of Azov (Ukraine). I don't see Russia letting this location receive to much damage. It is just down from Rostov-on-Don, another port city but in Russia. (Kind of like sister-cities and a lot of common bonds, including blood relatives, mostly Russian.)

This is why there was mention of $6 to $7 gas prices this spring/summer. Fill up gas cans now... while the price is where it is... may not go down for a while... then again... no demand, high supply, low prices.
Re the 1:59 PM EST update.

Maybe the Brits are planning to attempt to cut off Russian actions stemming from St. Petersburg and the northern cities that house the Russian Northern fleet; if so, it will be a repeat of their disastrous attempt from 100 years ago during the Russian Civil War.

The British were in command of an international Expeditionary Force in which American troops also participated, but without clear-cut objectives the adventure was a total fiasco with much suffering and loss of life on both sides.
It's funny to me how the US intelligence had no idea that the Taliban was taking over, but knew exactly when Russia would attack. I hope the people responsible for this get hit first.
+13 # The US boys!Gulfcaptain 2022-02-17 14:41
You can bet the US instructed Ukraine to move against east Ukraine to bait Russia into entering East Ukraine so NATO can claim a "Russian invasion" ... Gee who could have predicted that? Look for Russian air strikes and missiles to be used before any Russian boots on the ground.
Why no fire with these explosions, all duds , what is really going on
# Weekend Warrior'soldschool 2022-02-17 21:46
Quoting Whitewolf:
Why no fire with these explosions, all duds , what is really going on

It's the weekend warrior's on their 2 week
yearly training mission.
+3 # good question that kindergarten should have been rubblesupporttheblue 2022-02-17 15:16
# Didn't you see?Paul Lambert 2022-02-18 15:45
They had to kick a lot of footballs to make that hole in the wall.
Hal is awesome i can't get this kind of news anywhere else I love this site.
# Biden looks like the trailer hereSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-02-17 14:31
Not to defend the capital of Ukraine when England is stepping in to help how many wars did the United States lose and we never used our nuclear weapons and how about Saigon how about North Korea they have their capitals surrounded with sandbags and and cannons they're not invaded by South Korea for decades so what's the matter with you Ukraine why aren't you doing the same approach save your capital Mr Biden is let the bus run over you when his son made millions working for your folks
-2 # Mr h a l is rightSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-02-17 14:26
I think your gut feeling is correct it's probably right we what's there to patrol in the Black Sea without Ukraine in it and existence
+2 # the bomb in the Kindergartensupporttheblue 2022-02-17 14:22
did not explode or the building would be rubble. Must be a Ukrainian dud.
the best report of events that can be found on the net now! Thanks Hal!
+21 # RE: UKRAINE EXPLODES INTO BATTLE - BOTH SIDES ENGAGINGcreativesam 2022-02-17 14:10
May those in the area in and around Ukraine have shelter and be protected, in the name of Jesus, amen.
+1 # Zero hedgeDanbowser71 2022-02-17 14:05
Blinken Lays Out Russian False Flag 'Chemical Attack' Claims In Dramatic UN Security Council Speech
+3 # RE: Zero hedgeJFY 2022-02-17 15:02
Quoting Danbowser71:
Blinken Lays Out Russian False Flag 'Chemical Attack' Claims In Dramatic UN Security Council Speech

Don't they ever get tired of using the same B.S. line, conflict after conflict?

Carrying out the same actions over and over and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity.
-5 # Ukraine mustSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-02-17 14:00
Ukraine must get sandbags must surround your Capital 360° with sandbags 5 ft high 5 ft wide that must ask other countries to send their air forces in the help protect the skies of Ukraine that must do something to save your capital
+15 # ...ChristianProChrist 2022-02-17 14:03
I have no sympathy for the US backed, nazi regime occupation in Ukraine.

I have fear for the innocent bystanders, that's it. Russia are the 'good guys' in this fight.
+6 # False flagDanbowser71 2022-02-17 13:56
Is this the false flag that the west said would happen?
Are blaming Russia for the shelling ?
I'm looking to see how the western media plays this!
Are they going claim Russia shelled the break away Republics so they could attack Ukraine
Hall, can't thank you enough for the updates.
Stay safe and don't wait too long to get out.
Hal not Hall. Darn autocorrect
-12 # Biden must reverse courseSamuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-02-17 13:51
I come a family that called the underdog's we go from being no buddies to commanders of armies overnight without military experience we are geniuses of The underdogs for hundreds of years US army has investigated us we have files they're amazed by our brilliance now I'm telling President Biden here he must defend the capital of Ukraine to have the corridor open don't give him all of Eastern Europe don't be a fool like you were with Afghanistan you look like a coward to a bully you must reverse course publicly you must defend the capital of Ukraine even if it's only a 5-mile corridor 5 miles by 5 mi long the government of Ukraine must not fall he goes from being a regional leader to a fragment of the Soviet Union to a world power by getting that capital of Ukraine your whole psychological profile of him and his military completely changes you must change your course or the USA is in deep deep trouble and so is all freedom loving countries
+6 # Sammy b3368 - Nazi'sTheProphet 2022-02-17 14:14
Sammy, you are aware the Ukrainian government are Nazi's, right? I mean, there is no love between the Russian's or any non socialist to Nazi's. Let Kiev fall! Why would we support the descendants of mass murderers or their belief structure?
-3 # The Big Event Has Started.Garyhines 2022-02-17 13:49
Hi Hal so the big event has begun in Donbass and luhansk you see Hal all over this horse shit with Nato and United States Russia want be fighting Ukraine military they will be U.S military as well Hal .also Hal have Intel information regarding what's going to happen here very soon .it looks like the elites are going to get there War after all Hal who do we blame for all this horse shit one Biden shit for brains himself..
# TEAMS going in?paleopete 2022-02-17 13:46
I think this activity provides cover for the covert team to go in and the real show like Hal says will come in the next 72hrs. The teams can falsely flag fire upon Ukrainian troops near a cameraman cough....cough from BBC..cough cough... Just a thought but it's a distraction and the evacuation means lots of empty houses to lay low in... FYI Biden just immediately left his event in Ohio... over a little matter in Europe.
+11 # Thanks HalKJV1611-2 2022-02-17 13:45
Where are you going to get news like this! Come on folks support Hal. Send in some money today.
-3 # Off topic - covid smoking 2022-02-17 13:43
ABC TV news report in November 2019 details that a US intelligence agency report.
It talks of a bioweapon virus devasting China that could be a cataclysmic event in the USA.
However, at that time only a dozen people were feeling sick in the Wuhan lab............
"COVID-19 Bio-Attack Smoking Gun" Video with Ron Unz
+4 # RE: UKRAINE EXPLODES INTO BATTLE - BOTH SIDES ENGAGINGArrogant_Penguin 2022-02-17 13:21
Per ADSB exchange, SAM141 enroute to Warsaw from Burssels with a C17 (RCH4152) in tow, on final approach now.
+2 # SAM Special Air Missionsjwchristensen1001 2022-02-17 13:55
So I really don't know what these are, but this one is moving fast...

and there is this one too
+2 # Question to our military readers.LilBirdie 2022-02-17 13:14
After looking at the last map Hal posted, it shows activity along the entire border with Ukraine.
Wouldn't this be the "softening" of the playing field before troop movements begin?
+3 # Russia now "insists " on withdrawal of all US forces from Central and Eastern Europe.White Lightning aka Raptor 2022-02-17 13:08
The Russians understand where and whom the targets are. This has the potential to escalate quickly into use of tactical nuclear weapons and then potentially intercontinental nuclear weapons. Shock and awe the takeover of humanity by the satanic beast.
Quoting Hal:

"Given the information I just received, persons (like me) who live in urban areas, would be well advised to prepare to evac when EBT goes down. The savages will only remain calm for a couple days before all hell likely breaks loose."

Days Hal???
I do believe you exaggerate! Hours maybe, but not days!
A few years ago the EBT system went down for a short period, a few hours. Cities went crazy! I can't see where anything has gotten better. The response will be immediate. An immediate excuse to continue looting with a new excuse "I gotta feed my kids" ...... Yadda yadda yadda
# Russian AggressioniCanWalk 2022-02-17 12:56
Phrase of the year--so far.
+5 # Is anyone watching China??!! 2022-02-17 12:56
Are we going to see them in Taiwan AND America in the near future?
+1 # They are already here!northshorepaul 2022-02-17 17:56
Are we going to see them in Taiwan AND America in the near future?

In the near future??? Don't you watch what is happening? They are already here, principally in D.C. and other major cities. Look at all the blue city DA's that have been soft on crime, look at Portland, LA, SF and Seattle to name a few where it is Left wing DA's not prosecuting the crimes of the Left. They are HERE and wrecking their havoc now but have been here indoctrinating in the schools and universities, molding the minds of the young. As Khruschev once said, "we will bury you". They don't need to do it with armies but with social indoctrination, it works much cleaner.
+1 # EvacTed 2022-02-17 12:55
Tell me, anyone, whether evac is advisable from a blue city of 120k in a red state. I worry there are too many bad actors down in our central city, but Mrs. does not see it.
# I would choose a small community but don't be alone, like in the countryside.oldschool 2022-02-18 15:13
I would try and move away from any city of that size. Red or blue. I live in a small town (1500) in a Red state in a Red county on a Reservation ! So what does that tell you. Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not know of a Reservation that is Red. Anyway,, putting the Red & Blue aside for the moment. Personally I really wonder if that is going to make that much difference when it comes down to the apocalypse we are about to experience ? Think about this for a moment, How many people , Red Blue or Purple are really prepared for a major black out and a grid down situation for any length of time ? Say 1, 2, 3, months, and the supply chain being severed all across the nation. Guess my point is, There are going to be people from all walks of life in dire need of food, water, shelter, ect,ect. And what happens to people when all of a sudden these things are no longer available. I see panic on a large scale. So I guess the bottom line would be to know who your friends are , can we trust them to be the friend we need when the chips are REALLY down. Pray, stay close to God.
+3 # Take a camping tripSrmay72 2022-02-17 17:20
Tell the wife she can stay and you are not responsible. Before I got married I told my wife if I walk out you better be behind me or your all alone. We have packs in both vehicles but SHTF those in need know where to meet. Three sites incase 2 fail. Bury a couple 5 gallon lower buckets in different places even if it's on public land. I also have a homemade longbow I can use as my walking stick. Bullets run out you have back up
+4 # I'd leave or be super ready to do soLilBirdie 2022-02-17 13:25
I'd feel safer in a red city in a blue state than I would the reverse.
As a small town dweller (less than 1k), I find 120k to be a big city! Far to many people for comfort.
If you have a trailer/cargo trailer and can be in a position of hitch & go I would get that way.
Unfortunately many go down the road of life not reading the signs along the way. Detour signs flashing brightly and they're surprised when the bridge ahead is missing.
Prepare for your family. Be ready to roll at a moments notice. She'll be thankful you did
-1 # Man upBurnit 2022-02-17 13:15
Either man up and tell her what you are going to do or, get yourself some more soy latte. If your woman is so strong, and wants to be 'equal', then she can be strong on her own. Does she expect you to pay for the meal when you go out? Does she expect you to drive when you travel? If so, it sounds like she wants to have it both ways. Take a stand, man!
+4 # RE: EvacChristianProChrist 2022-02-17 13:01
You're not safe anywhere, mate.
+7 # The Logical SequenceTC 2022-02-17 12:55
The logical sequence has not changed.

A review of what has happened: Ukraine refuses to deal with residents of Donetsk and Lugansk so Russia issues Russian passports to many of them so they became officially Russian. Done. Russia issues orders to its military to destroy any power that fires a missile into Russia. Done. Ukraine declares it will take Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea by force. Done. Ukraine moves half its army to the border. Done. Propaganda is issued to blame everything on Russia. Done. Russia declares it will protect Russians wherever they are. Done. Ukraine’s forces start attacking Russians in Donetsk and Lugansk. In progress.

So what’s next? Ukraine massacres Russian citizens. Air forces and missiles from Russia attack Ukranian forces. The Ukranian air force attacks and is eliminated. Russia controls Ukranian air space and tries to stop the war but somebody from the West or Ukraine fires a missile into Russia triggering Russian automatic response to destroy whoever fired that missile.

If it is Ukraine who fires that missile the response can be local and limited. If it is a NATO power who fires that missile it cannot.

Everyone knows this is the likely sequence of events if Ukraine attacks. The powers that be could have easily stopped it if they wanted to. But apparently they don’t. Watch the politicians and that may predict who will be the one to fire that missile.
+10 # Make no mistakepaulattahoe 2022-02-17 12:49
The Biden cartel backing and supplying weapons to NATO countries and Ukraine have brought about this war.
+9 # Nopegjones7777 2022-02-17 12:44
Instant prep food?? Buy 1 case each: mixed vegetables, canned chicken, cornbeef hash, stew,. 1 case each won't raise any eyebrows and repeat this at 5 stores. You can EASILY eat all this food before it expires and it's way waaaaaay cheaper than MREs or dehydrated food. It is available RIGHT NOW. If you have no preps, get your ass to the grocery store NOW. You'll be amazed how cheap all that ready to eat food is. Your choice , eat or starve
+4 # don't forgetBurnit 2022-02-17 13:17
can openers, lighters, paper plates, paper towels, bar soap
Remember, two is one, one is none.
+1 # absolutely!gjones7777 2022-02-18 01:04
absolutely! all of the above!
+5 # USA TruckingSparkyTaz 2022-02-17 12:41
Time to store up and get ahead of the curve....with truckers on the way to DC and the risk of this regional conflict going global...the supply chain break down will accelerate. Honestly, if one has not already stored up, then it may be too late. In 30 days, what will life in the US look like? Is aversion possible???
# SNAP EBT Seems to be working at the momentcreativesam 2022-02-17 12:39
+1 # Yet Another Colossal Mistake By BidenFaith11 2022-02-17 12:39
The Brandon's are making one colossal mistake after another it is the worst presidency ever in our history. Trump is right "this country will not survive three more years, of this."
The Greatest Depression, is around the corner, if they don't turn this thing around now.
+8 # RE: Yet Another Colossal Mistake By BidenJFY 2022-02-17 13:08
Quoting Faith11:
The Brandon's are making one colossal mistake after another it is the worst presidency ever in our history.

It is not a presidency and never should be considered as one; it is an illegal regime of occupation borne out of the usurpation of the actual President of the U.S. as elected by the vast majority of the American people, bogus vote count notwithstanding.

They are the enemy within, like no other enemy ever, and the longer it takes to correct this situation, the harder it will be to survive what we are witnessing now.
+4 # The BearSparkyTaz 2022-02-17 12:36
The Bear (Russia) is set to devour the 3 Ribs...Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. Ukraine is the symptom of NATO failing to keep Minsk and prior agreements.
+2 # Nopegjones7777 2022-02-17 12:32
The exterior photo of the kindergarten building shows this was a direct hit, not a mortar hit, as the blast is several feet above the ground and the blast damage radiates in all directions. This looks local to me , to create international outrage for hitting a kindergarten
Think think think about it
# rightDudimus Maximus 2022-02-17 12:56
photo shows this was a direct hit, not a mortar hit, as the blast is several feet above the ground and the blast damage radiates in all directions.

and then we have and will continue to have , more photos, and there will be retaliation photos, and then the scene gets really mixed up...
+3 # US Defense Secretary Lloyd AustinGloucesterAD97 2022-02-17 12:31
"I was a soldier myself not that long ago. I know first-hand that you don't do these sorts of things for no reason," Austin, a retired army general, says."
The PLA is grateful for your service sir!
# For a moment I thought you wrote PLOMan of the Atom 2022-02-18 03:11
The Palestine Liberation Organization not the People's Liberation Army (AKA China's slave/droid army).
+8 # SensibleSBGlett77 2022-02-17 12:27
Excerpt from story:

...All those Russian Army troops that everyone _thought_ were for Ukraine. apparently were not. It now appears to me they were for a direct confrontation with NATO itself, to rid eastern and central Europe of US forces. ...

Now that makes a lot of sense, and fits the news we have so far the last week or so, much better. Ukraine is small potatoes, and methinks Russia can let the breakaways states handle it. However, when a NATO country goes off half-cocked to "help" Ukraine by "pre-empting" Russia, Russia has always said they would go after the source of the attack, not the point of attack. And if they think the origin is of U.S. provenance, they will attack us.
+2 # ..andSBGlett77 2022-02-17 12:32
Having said the above, it has been appearing that the UK is the country that has been foaming at the mouth against Russia the most lately.

They want to look brave, resolute, and leader-like. I hope they don't get themselves lit up.
-4 # The games afoot!Pesky Varmint 2022-02-17 12:23
-3 # RE: The games afoot!Pesky Varmint 2022-02-17 12:28
Not sure how the YouTube link button works but just in case:
Looks like it is on...
+9 # Some Scripture for us?J Grayman 2022-02-17 12:16
"Finally, brothers and sisters, pray continually for us that the word of the Lord will spread rapidly and be honored [triumphantly celebrated and glorified], just as it was with you; and [pray] that we will be rescued from perverse and evil men; for not everyone has the faith. But the Lord is faithful, and He will strengthen you [setting you on a firm foundation] and will protect and guard you from the evil one."
2 Thessalonians 3:1‭-‬3 AMP
+1 # Twitter PostTeknikid 2022-02-17 12:10
I went there to look up "@wide_g" and got a different username and no posts. Not making sense.
+8 # Oppose the Establishment of the New World OdorWhite Lightning aka Raptor 2022-02-17 12:06
Archbishop Viganò's IMPORTANT MESSAGE To Canadian Truckers
# I'm not Catholic myself but this man should be Pope!Man of the Atom 2022-02-18 03:20
He is truly a man of the people, a WWJD? type.
+3 # Atheist 2022-02-17 13:51
but I will take all the support I can get to fight the Great Reset.
+11 # Look at that wall...Erfman 2022-02-17 11:58
I know it is irrelevant, but that wall is seriously built with at least 3 layers of brick. Wow!!!

Not much insulation though.

I wonder what the damage would have been if it were made like the typical American building with relatively thin walls and insulation.
+3 # Twitterboogers 2022-02-17 11:56
I cannot see any new posts on Twitter...seems to be down
Bombing a kindergarten. That's SO BRAVE.....Bunch of cowards.....
+6 # GasSrmay72 2022-02-17 11:46
IF THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN YOU WILL KNOW ITS PLANNED FOR MUCH WORSE OUTCOME. Search how much natural gas Europe gets from Russia. You will see that there's no way in any REAL WAR senerio that they would leave the gas on to power their defenses and heat their homes. If you haven't fueled all your cars you better plus every can you have.gas will double if this is real.
+6 # Already done.Grim 2022-02-17 12:00
As Hal previously reported a few weeks ago, Russia has already cut off the natural gas pipeline to Europe.
+7 # Propaganda out of 2022-02-17 11:46 has misleading headline with same pic of kindergarten posted here inferring Russia has bombed the school. Thanks, Hal, for posting actual video from source.
God help us…Heels Up Harris is headed to Munich to represent USA !!
+1 # On the lighter side of thingsMan of the Atom 2022-02-18 03:24
She may have "skills" in certain areas and if she provides "service" to both sides over there maybe they will all calm down. Ha!
+8 # who is this reporter?boogers 2022-02-17 11:24
the last 11 am update clip, Who is this reporter so I can follow.
+6 # RE : who is this reporter?Redlist Renegade 2022-02-17 11:57
Patrick Lancaster is his name . I watch his reports from the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine on YouTube regularly as well as Russell Bently's reports from there as well.
+2 # RusselNZWatcher 2022-02-17 13:45
Have you any recent links to Russell
By the way above
Patrick always sounds like that
+3 # Patrick Lancasterskyward21 2022-02-17 11:54
The news reporter is Patrick Lancaster from PLnewstoday. You can follow him on Twitter.
+16 # Sigh againSBGlett77 2022-02-17 11:21
I still say to Ukraine: this is a chicken-livered way to start a war. Random shelling into villages ? Your soldiers are a bunch of hirelings who really have no skin in the game of recovering a primarily Russian area. They can be demoralized very easily when a few of them start dropping in the forward positions due to infiltration hit-and-run attacks and snipers popping them from 800 meters.

So the immediate suppressive fire from DPR is going to be followed and supplemented, in my opinion, by demoralizing-type operations.

As long as DPR and LPR can hang on and neutralize this half-fast ( ! ) war method of Ukraine, Russia still has no reason to "attack" Ukraine. I believe they do continue to send spoofing signals to keep everyone off balance as to their intentions, however. Meanwhile, they can get a lot of weapons and no-insignia personnel into Ukraine without detection. They can even walk them in or deliver heavier stuff disguised as normal trucking.

I see it as Russia still just waiting for Ukraine or the U.S. to make some blunder that hits the world stage so obviously that it can't be spun away - THEN they can clean up the Ukraine mess with the moral high ground while we sputter and huff. Russia surely must know the West is self-destructing over this whole affair - why get in the way?

That is not to say that Russia is not privy to some nefarious large-scale provocation that, if perpetrated, might force it to engage in full-scale war, but as it stands today their patience right now will be rewarded in shedding the "bad guy" label, and pasting it on Ukraine, NATO, or just the U.S.

Just my opinion developed from the great information Hal continues to provide. It might be way off, as the first casualty of war, as they say.
# Yes, the Russians can supply equipment tooMan of the Atom 2022-02-17 21:49
In this case to the two Russian speaking Eastern Republics. Some "little green men" or maybe even some under deep cover will be there to operate this "equipment". Frankly, I don't blame them - who started what here is like "who sank the Maine in Havana Harbor?" Was it a mine or a boiler explosion? At this point without absolutely incontrovertible evidence that wasn't faked, I would not believe anything Biden and NATO claim. Remember the "Tonkin Gulf Incident" (never happened) that preceded our involvement in Vietnam? There are other such examples too.
+4 # RE : sigh againRedlist Renegade 2022-02-17 12:06
The Ukrainian military uses right wing mercenaries and the units there that may actually be doing the initial shelling of the villages and the outskirts of Donetsk may well be their Nazi brigades such as Right Sector and Avoz etc. . They have a deep hatred for the Russians and for anyone who supports them and they're some really Sick Bastards !!!
Russia also expelled an American diplomat today. So it begins. Get right with God and may He have mercy on us.
+11 # Ukraine worsening.Mary Wehrman 2022-02-17 10:56
I say the situation is worsening but no evidence, YET, that this current exchange will escalate to widespread military operations by either side. But it appears, (Russian embassy destroying documents etc.) time is of the essence to get this under control or what we fear may in fact develop very soon, even today/tonight? Be safe
+5 # Art of warSrmay72 2022-02-17 12:00
Deception, what is REALLY GOING ON IS WHAT WE SHOULD FEAR. This seems like a smoke screen for something far worse then war
Most don't understand that the real bunkers take months to pressurize to keep them "safe" most think TPTB JUST WALK IN AND CLOSE THE DOORS AND THEY ARE GOOD wrong they are so far underground that no weapons can Penetrate them. It's no different then subs preasurizing. You can down vote me but you can check it out on your own. This is why so many actors and important people just disappeared. This is why all the cgi with these actors folks what ever the real reason nuclear war would be welcome compared. This is all just a diversion
+1 # RE: Art of warJFY 2022-02-17 12:30
This is all a diversion for what, in your opinion?

Global nuclear war, or something else?
-5 # RE: UKRAINE EXPLODES INTO BATTLE - BOTH SIDES ENGAGINGThe Deplorable Renegade 2022-02-17 10:56
Everyone have your popcorn ready. The show will really get "interesting" now.
Might not be able to make popcorn after a nuclear EMP or a nuclear blast. Good grief. This is NOT a movie. If I could bring back my father in law he would tell you war is hell.
We careful. We may just have the chinks coming thru Canada and Mexico...put your popcorn away
as who knows what in the world could happen.
+1 # Too lateAtomic Scout 2022-02-17 20:27
Chinks already invaded DC and are calling the shots. They didn't have to fire a shot. Now they will send us running into Russian bullets while they exterminate us at home with their viruses and poisons.
+6 # Well shitShamo 2022-02-17 10:53
Picked a bad time to get my Tacoma worked on. Hot damn.
+3 # RE: Well shitTeknikid 2022-02-17 12:12
At least you're getting it worked on. You might not be able to again, soon.
+4 # RE: Well shitGunner 2022-02-17 11:18
Best tell them to hurry up or get a rental for a few days if you are that concerned?
+3 # RE: Well shitChristianProChrist 2022-02-17 12:31
There are almost no rentals available in the US since the pandemic sell-off .. Telling people to "hurry up" is only going to slow things down.. Don't fuck with mechanics, they can make your life miserable without even saying a word.

Best to keep your mouth shut, and look around to see what would be available around you when shit hits the fan. There will be no "rule of law".
+4 # RE: Well shitnjc 2022-02-17 15:09
Or learn how to fix things yourself. A valuable skill in the post-apocalyptic world we're heading towards.


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