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UKRAINE EXPLODES INTO BATTLE - BOTH SIDES ENGAGING
At about 2:30 AM eastern US time on Thursday, shelling and mortar fire from Ukraine forces began hitting both Donetsk and Luhansk. Ukraine is seven hours AHEAD of U.S. eastern time, so the shelling began around 7:30 PM Wednesday night on the US east Coast time zone.
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If the report is credible, Ukraine forces are currently pushing to encircle the areas in dispute.
Ukraine believes that in making such a first move they will cripple Russian's promis to protect the Dombass and such a pre-emptive move will settle the issue.
If Putin allows these Russian speaking areas, the Dombass, to be inhabited by Ukrainian forces, the world will look unfavorably toward Putin and count his word as baseless.
Where did you go ? No updates since last night
Tuesday is 2/22/2022
We have a Vice President ! :-)
And now it’s the ukies invading. Splendid!
Russians seem to be taking over Ukraine in controlled fashion without much opposition and no casualties (Ukrainian reserves have not been mobilized), as Hal has pointed out in his report and on the radio. Those 120 mm howitzer cannonades appear to be shooting, as everyone here noticed, past their targets and just exploding in the air high above ground.
There is explanation for this. V. Zelensky was elected in Ukraine with money collected in Russia. We have known from high level Russian defectors (Russian GRU colonels and Securitate Generals such as Ion Pacepa in Romania) that Russia never lost control of the political structures of Ukraine. Why? It is because it always intended a comeback in the future after it "gave up" Ukraine in 1991. Ten billion dollars was paid by the US at that time to the Uke Nazis as a compensation for their loss of nuclear missiles, which were sent from Ukraine to Russia for "dismantling" (but in fact were just put in Russian storage). The whole Russian "invasion" appears to be a sham. The Red Army will be just driving through Eastern Ukraine to retake something they never intended to give up!
If this supposition proves to be the case, then the whole house of cards that has been built up by the media, including the alternative media about the Russian being upset about a few dozens of missile anti-rockets placed by NATO in Easter Poland and Romania, that can be loaded with nuclear warheads in one hour, vanishes like last night's dream! I believe that Russians have another agenda that if far more sinister!
It is not in the Scofield Reference Babble, all ye heretics, bit the sequence of events before WWIII really begins is the Great Warning with a Crucifix with a corpus in the sky finally ushering the WWIII and the Great Chastisement!
This little war in Eastern Ukraine is nothing more than Kabuki theater
G O N E..
"Foresaid" what, pray tell? Are you some kind of witchdoctor, seer or a prophet?
Putin is smart enough that he doesn't really care about that shithole the Ukraine.
Putin intends to get what he wants from NATO (which means from the USA). By whatever means necessary.
Those two old buildings look to be just that,
two old buildings that collapsed 5 years ago.
Biden's sickly performance as President is going to cost the US Senate, and the House of Representatives their majorities, and cause major irrevocable losses.
With new clear-cut Republican majorities they are threatening to impeach Biden.
The Democrats know they are going to lose big.
"My God, this can't happen," they say.
They know they stand fair to win if there is war.
Secondly, the treachery of the vaccines will be successfully covered up under the blaze of war fire.
Truth doesn't matter. Truth never matters.
Love Hal's show.
We in southern Texas salute!
Those that are in power own the voting machines and thus they will own the elections from here on out.
In either case she must keep great vigil and sufficient reserve to prevent NATO aggression.
Just my view. Sorry for the log post.
Me, I think that, since Russia sees NATO as the problem, Russia is going to try to remove NATO.
Makes US the main target.
I told him to get cash and stock up on groceries, I ran into him a few minutes later at the grocery store … go figure… he feels it too.
"The UK and Poland will continue to provide
Ukraine with support, standing in unity with
Ukraine, in the face of ongoing Russian
aggression, and fully committed to stand with
Ukrainian nation in its efforts aimed at defending
Ukraine's sovereignty..."
https://rense.com/general96/poland-uk-ukraine.php
You also did not quote any passages and references from the Scofield Reference Babble to support your non-existent thesis!
In summary, I would say just stick to your repetitive regurgitations of Covid news!
Kevin, you still did not write up your hypothesis. I am not your lawyer do give you counsel. I am just asking follow-up questions based on your excellent, but not a new find that should not go without comment! Do not forget to support your arguments with your Scofield Babble references!
Thanks for all you do, Hal.
So, in about 12 hours all the paper products disappeared from stores - any kind of tissue, kitchen towels, feminine products, and, of course, all the masks. Then, within a week or so, all the alcohol products were gone. In Tokyo I heard that the panic in some areas was worse and all the rice disappeared from stores (rice came back very very quickly as it was a very localized hoarding event).
It took a year for alcohol products to come back, almost that long for masks. Paper products came back earlier but Costco Japan was rationing them for a while - only two small packs to a family per visit.
We went to a local drug store the evening of the day of the rumor and since we were not in Tokyo, we could still find some things - they weren't cleaned out yet.
But things can clean out very quickly, and some things (like masks, alcohol bottles, and alcohol wipes) took a long time for the supply chain to resupply due to a number of reasons.
The Japanese people are very polite and industrious so this whole thing happened very orderly and quiet way. May not be so polite and orederly in other countries.
My advice would be to make sure you have a supply of essentials in your homes, offices, and cars. (A little emergency kit in the car is always good to have anyway. And if it makes sense to have some basics in a corner of your desk at work.)
And Hal's advice to get personal communications gear is very good. The installed telecom and datacom networks that we have today are not nearly as robust as they were back in the days of the old Bell System - IMO. Also a shortwave radio is good to hear what is going on over the whole world.
Sorry for the long post.
Cheers
Potential For U.S.-Russia Conflict Seen With Clinton's Syria Plan
https://www.rferl.org/a/potention-us-russia-conflict-seen-clinton-syria-no-fly-zone-plan-trump-clapper-/28075466.html
Seriously, how do you think the Russians are going to react to any attempt by NATO to implement a no fly zone in the Ukraine?
deemed to be contravening the NFZ order!
The UK seem to be up to their necks in this affair, what is their interest in the Ukraine, why the support of a Neo Nazi regime?
American and British blood is about to be spilled, what is the purpose, what is the prize, is it just military contracts or something else?
My thoughts are along with what Hal has mentioned before. If NATO could take Ukraine that would put them on Russia's front door step and therefore put them in strategic missile range of Moscow. Which is a rediculous pipe dream, and a suicide mission to boot.
So I don't know, I just don't know ???
Your guess is as good as mine.
Am one of the guilt ones checking and checking for updates
After topping off our house again with supplies and more gas cans am a little short on Capital at the moment ... sending over $25
Hope that helps to offset
Please Keep the news updates coming
Thanks again for all you do
C
Without Russia as an adversary NATO has no justifiable purpose, and is seen for what it is; a tool of American hegemony.
I knew when Jens Stoltenberg of NATO offered to get involved in"The South China Sea" he was a trouble seeking warmonger!
NATO is no more than a guard dog for western oligarchs treasure, and Russia has fed it some poisoned meat, showing its vulnerability.
Time to bury NATO, its leaders, and those Nazi's who want WAR in EUROPE!
Nazism is a form of fascism,[2][3][4][5] with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed.
THEY ARE BOTH SCUM!
You need to take care of yourself and your family first. I don't think you can scour the web, talk to your intel people and get ready to leave.
So, thank you for keeping us all updated and now will you please get ready to bug out???
Prayers for you, your family and the extended Hal Turner Radio Show family.
https://youtu.be/KFBPIZZ7qpY
Very good video especially starting at 24:00 mark.
Just accusing without showing evidence smells like a false flag. It's like saying anthrax and never finding it as a pretense for war. Why should anything be believed. If you like your healthcare and Doctor you can keep it. Read my lips no new taxes. I did not have sex with that woman. Just 15 days to flatten the curve. They have weapons of mass destruction. You have to pass the bill to see whats in it. Russian Collusion. and lets not forget the 1 billion dollars Joe held up in aid for Ukraine until the prosecutor was fired. The vaccines are voluntary. BLM are peaceful protesters. Fox is fair and balanced. And what about all the other trusted news networks. But I digress
Not on the home page, not on this page. I've scrolled up and down several different times during the day, thinking "oh, they'll show up", but now . . . I'm starting to wonder. WILL THEY? I'm sure you know it, but did you know they seem to be missing? Or am I just to old, blonde, dense and upset to find them?????
but your right Sue I have no ads on any page either. Actually I never have seen any ads at anytime in the past. ???
Maybe a soccer ball caused the damage - darn kids [sarcasm]
Now during TV ad breaks , I can explore Hals ads.
Oh, the irony !
Have seen lots of sites which have a link to be able to send the price of a coffee...buymeakofi.com, or something along those lines. Quite sure if you had this facility those of us visiting would happily donate the price of a coffee if you had this facility...
What does the community here think?
Good idea !
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Yesterday, the Russian president himself continued by talking about "Genocide" and reminding the Germans of the case of the ruthless bombing of Yugoslavia.
It is obvious that Moscow is not creating a "pretext for invasion" as reported by the US-Britain. Instead, it justifies a "Russian humanitarian operation" by reversing the Yugoslav case.
And this is a major issue for the West as Moscow deconstructs its institutions and humanitarian background.
According to traditional Russian practice, the President of Belarus, A. Lukashenko, detonated a "bomb" preparing the ground for the arrival of nuclear missiles in his country.
Note that we are not talking about Iskander-M ballistic systems that can also carry a nuclear warhead. ......
At the same time, Lukashenko confirmed to us again that, as he said , "Russian forces and S-400s will remain in the country." ......
"If necessary (…) we will develop not only nuclear weapons, but also supernuclear weapons, very promising weapons (what will the Russians give him?), In order to defend our territory, " Mr Lukashenko was quoted as saying by Belarus. Media.
And Russia will be fully entitled to go over the border en masse in a humanitarian intervention.
No need to bring in Russian troops at this time.
While it is impressive to have 3 layers of brick in the exterior wall, the modern munition should have pulverized the brick into a thick layer of masonry dust across all surfaces. And the round balls are still on the shelves of a bookcase on impacted wall.
So what was that wall hit with? Sabot mortar round (joke)? Unexploded HE mortar round? Utility pole?
exactly the same thing. It looks as if it were hit with a Dummy round / missile or like you said, Utility pole ?? Something funny here.
I worked with explosive's when I was in a Combat engineer battalion with the Guard.
I'm sure there are other folks here on this forum that have worked with explosives also.
A missile would have taken the entire corner out of that building and more.
Shells do fail to explode on impact. Also simple looking at that hole it is obvious to see more is knocked out at the bottom than the top suggesting the projectile came in at a downward angle.
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/361660237/shelled-kindergarten-damage
Troubling imagery even if Biblically based.
I've always imagined the impossibility of volitional movement of a huge beast with a hook in it's jaw. Went deep sea fishing once and remember the size of the hooks. Truly huge and monsterous. Now symbolically think of the size of a hook that would be capable of hooking a nation and drawing it forth. Russia? Like, not wanting to but having no choice. Omnious.
Even if events get 'exciting/scary' you can still stay calm...or at least act like it.
Slow down, remember to breath, use your full field of vision. You can be calm in the storm.
The people around you will need that.
You have extra food, you know how to deal with fallout.
Even if you hear that atomic mushrooms are exiting their steel casings you'll be ok. In a first strike situation only 20% are likely to die (in the first hit).
Stay calm. Go through your plans again. Pray.
I have everything except the Gas Mask's and the Hazmat suit's. I'm afraid the fallout might just fall me out.
"Hey, he's not scared... Why? What does he have that we need/want??"
This is why there was mention of $6 to $7 gas prices this spring/summer. Fill up gas cans now... while the price is where it is... may not go down for a while... then again... no demand, high supply, low prices.
Re the 1:59 PM EST update.
Maybe the Brits are planning to attempt to cut off Russian actions stemming from St. Petersburg and the northern cities that house the Russian Northern fleet; if so, it will be a repeat of their disastrous attempt from 100 years ago during the Russian Civil War.
The British were in command of an international Expeditionary Force in which American troops also participated, but without clear-cut objectives the adventure was a total fiasco with much suffering and loss of life on both sides.
It's the weekend warrior's on their 2 week
yearly training mission.
Don't they ever get tired of using the same B.S. line, conflict after conflict?
Carrying out the same actions over and over and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity.
I have fear for the innocent bystanders, that's it. Russia are the 'good guys' in this fight.
Are blaming Russia for the shelling ?
I'm looking to see how the western media plays this!
Are they going claim Russia shelled the break away Republics so they could attack Ukraine
Stay safe and don't wait too long to get out.
It talks of a bioweapon virus devasting China that could be a cataclysmic event in the USA.
However, at that time only a dozen people were feeling sick in the Wuhan lab............
https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/covid-19-bio-attack-smoking-gun-video-with-ron-unz/
"COVID-19 Bio-Attack Smoking Gun" Video with Ron Unz
and there is this one too https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SAM376/history/20220217/1730Z/KLGA
Wouldn't this be the "softening" of the playing field before troop movements begin?
"Given the information I just received, persons (like me) who live in urban areas, would be well advised to prepare to evac when EBT goes down. The savages will only remain calm for a couple days before all hell likely breaks loose."
Days Hal???
I do believe you exaggerate! Hours maybe, but not days!
A few years ago the EBT system went down for a short period, a few hours. Cities went crazy! I can't see where anything has gotten better. The response will be immediate. An immediate excuse to continue looting with a new excuse "I gotta feed my kids" ...... Yadda yadda yadda
LOL
In the near future??? Don't you watch what is happening? They are already here, principally in D.C. and other major cities. Look at all the blue city DA's that have been soft on crime, look at Portland, LA, SF and Seattle to name a few where it is Left wing DA's not prosecuting the crimes of the Left. They are HERE and wrecking their havoc now but have been here indoctrinating in the schools and universities, molding the minds of the young. As Khruschev once said, "we will bury you". They don't need to do it with armies but with social indoctrination, it works much cleaner.
As a small town dweller (less than 1k), I find 120k to be a big city! Far to many people for comfort.
If you have a trailer/cargo trailer and can be in a position of hitch & go I would get that way.
Unfortunately many go down the road of life not reading the signs along the way. Detour signs flashing brightly and they're surprised when the bridge ahead is missing.
Prepare for your family. Be ready to roll at a moments notice. She'll be thankful you did
A review of what has happened: Ukraine refuses to deal with residents of Donetsk and Lugansk so Russia issues Russian passports to many of them so they became officially Russian. Done. Russia issues orders to its military to destroy any power that fires a missile into Russia. Done. Ukraine declares it will take Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea by force. Done. Ukraine moves half its army to the border. Done. Propaganda is issued to blame everything on Russia. Done. Russia declares it will protect Russians wherever they are. Done. Ukraine’s forces start attacking Russians in Donetsk and Lugansk. In progress.
So what’s next? Ukraine massacres Russian citizens. Air forces and missiles from Russia attack Ukranian forces. The Ukranian air force attacks and is eliminated. Russia controls Ukranian air space and tries to stop the war but somebody from the West or Ukraine fires a missile into Russia triggering Russian automatic response to destroy whoever fired that missile.
If it is Ukraine who fires that missile the response can be local and limited. If it is a NATO power who fires that missile it cannot.
Everyone knows this is the likely sequence of events if Ukraine attacks. The powers that be could have easily stopped it if they wanted to. But apparently they don’t. Watch the politicians and that may predict who will be the one to fire that missile.
Remember, two is one, one is none.
The Greatest Depression, is around the corner, if they don't turn this thing around now.
It is not a presidency and never should be considered as one; it is an illegal regime of occupation borne out of the usurpation of the actual President of the U.S. as elected by the vast majority of the American people, bogus vote count notwithstanding.
They are the enemy within, like no other enemy ever, and the longer it takes to correct this situation, the harder it will be to survive what we are witnessing now.
Think think think about it
and then we have and will continue to have , more photos, and there will be retaliation photos, and then the scene gets really mixed up...
The PLA is grateful for your service sir!
Excerpt from story:
...All those Russian Army troops that everyone _thought_ were for Ukraine. apparently were not. It now appears to me they were for a direct confrontation with NATO itself, to rid eastern and central Europe of US forces. ...
Now that makes a lot of sense, and fits the news we have so far the last week or so, much better. Ukraine is small potatoes, and methinks Russia can let the breakaways states handle it. However, when a NATO country goes off half-cocked to "help" Ukraine by "pre-empting" Russia, Russia has always said they would go after the source of the attack, not the point of attack. And if they think the origin is of U.S. provenance, they will attack us.
They want to look brave, resolute, and leader-like. I hope they don't get themselves lit up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_3X2FMOZeg
2 Thessalonians 3:1-3 AMP
https://bible.com/bible/1588/2th.3.1-3.AMP
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXM_BH4b7Y&t=7s
Not much insulation though.
I wonder what the damage would have been if it were made like the typical American building with relatively thin walls and insulation.
IF THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN YOU WILL KNOW ITS PLANNED FOR MUCH WORSE OUTCOME. Search how much natural gas Europe gets from Russia. You will see that there's no way in any REAL WAR senerio that they would leave the gas on to power their defenses and heat their homes. If you haven't fueled all your cars you better plus every can you have.gas will double if this is real.
God help us…Heels Up Harris is headed to Munich to represent USA !!
By the way above
Patrick always sounds like that
So the immediate suppressive fire from DPR is going to be followed and supplemented, in my opinion, by demoralizing-type operations.
As long as DPR and LPR can hang on and neutralize this half-fast ( ! ) war method of Ukraine, Russia still has no reason to "attack" Ukraine. I believe they do continue to send spoofing signals to keep everyone off balance as to their intentions, however. Meanwhile, they can get a lot of weapons and no-insignia personnel into Ukraine without detection. They can even walk them in or deliver heavier stuff disguised as normal trucking.
I see it as Russia still just waiting for Ukraine or the U.S. to make some blunder that hits the world stage so obviously that it can't be spun away - THEN they can clean up the Ukraine mess with the moral high ground while we sputter and huff. Russia surely must know the West is self-destructing over this whole affair - why get in the way?
That is not to say that Russia is not privy to some nefarious large-scale provocation that, if perpetrated, might force it to engage in full-scale war, but as it stands today their patience right now will be rewarded in shedding the "bad guy" label, and pasting it on Ukraine, NATO, or just the U.S.
Just my opinion developed from the great information Hal continues to provide. It might be way off, as the first casualty of war, as they say.
Most don't understand that the real bunkers take months to pressurize to keep them "safe" most think TPTB JUST WALK IN AND CLOSE THE DOORS AND THEY ARE GOOD wrong they are so far underground that no weapons can Penetrate them. It's no different then subs preasurizing. You can down vote me but you can check it out on your own. This is why so many actors and important people just disappeared. This is why all the cgi with these actors folks what ever the real reason nuclear war would be welcome compared. This is all just a diversion
This is all a diversion for what, in your opinion?
Global nuclear war, or something else?
as who knows what in the world could happen.
Best to keep your mouth shut, and look around to see what would be available around you when shit hits the fan. There will be no "rule of law".
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