Worsening . . .

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Russia just announced it is withdrawing its ambassador from Poland and is EXPELLING the Polish ambassador.

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+5 # █▓▒░ Brace For Impact - Incoming ░▒▓█ — Palehorse 2022-05-09 21:46

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ANOTHER ATTACK UPON OUR HEALTH

Looks like it's time to contact your corrupt political
representative on this one!
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New Bill Threatens Jail Time for Supplement Companies

Senator Dick Durbin’s (D-IL) bill that threatens
tens of thousands of products has officially been
introduced. We need all hands on deck to oppose it. Action Alert!

“Dietary Supplement Listing Act of 2022”

This bill threatens your ability to access the
supplements you rely on to stay healthy.

READ UP A BIT ON THIS ISSUE AND CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES. Lets put a stop to this attack.

https://anh-usa.org/new-bill-threatens-jail-time-for-supplement-companies/

+4 # Durbin is a PIECE OF SHIT — Jessiebeaner 2022-05-10 08:22

And has tried endlessly to make supplements illegal. That fucker is in the back pocket of big pharma. There will be many citizen petitions circulating that need signatures.
People should post links here and everyone here should sign them.
If food becomes scarce then vitamins and minerals are an absolute necessity.

+1 # Volodan — Stanley Rothenstein 2022-05-09 21:18

Vee-at-chess-lov

+16 # How did this happen? — Flatfootfrank 2022-05-09 20:27

With events as they are and on the day celebrating Russia’s defeat of Germany, how in the world did someone get close enough to the Ambassador to drench him in red paint? Him and if those around him were his security detail they were extremely calm. Something stinks with this.

+5 # Hmmm — JohnnyinKY 2022-05-09 20:50

Quoting Flatfootfrank:

With events as they are and on the day celebrating Russia’s defeat of Germany, how in the world did someone get close enough to the Ambassador to drench him in red paint? Him and if those around him were his security detail they were extremely calm. Something stinks with this.

Hmmmm that’s a interesting point. Could his security really have been that bad during a time of war in a hostile country?? That is rather odd

+1 # RE: Hmmm — Forrest Mosby 2022-05-10 01:44

Quoting JohnnyinKY:

Quoting Flatfootfrank:
With events as they are and on the day celebrating Russia’s defeat of Germany, how in the world did someone get close enough to the Ambassador to drench him in red paint? Him and if those around him were his security detail they were extremely calm. Something stinks with this.

Hmmmm that’s a interesting point. Could his security really have been that bad during a time of war in a hostile country?? That is rather odd

It happened because ‘they’ wanted it[or something like it] to happen….Its in The Script

-3 # RE: How did this happen? — Haarnaś 2022-05-09 20:47

Quoting Flatfootfrank:

With events as they are and on the day celebrating Russia’s defeat of Germany, how in the world did someone get close enough to the Ambassador to drench him in red paint? Him and if those around him were his security detail they were extremely calm. Something stinks with this.

Hal should be able to explain tonight!

-5 # Come rain or shine Poland Will Take A Bite Out Of Ukraine — Haarnaś 2022-05-09 20:23

It is all settled between the Ruskies, the US and Poland. However, there is a problem, Lviv is a neo-Nazi stronghold. Can Poles handle them? A report from Ukraine by Gonzalo Lira. Poland is just reclaiming its historic lands going back 1000 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPqCMZu8Wrk&t=470s

+7 # Biden signs lend lease act — JohnnyinKY 2022-05-09 19:27

I saw where Biden is doing a lend lease act with Ukraine. Isn’t that the same damn thing we did to get ourselves into a war with Germany? I’m surprised nobody has mentioned that. The American people didn’t want to be in the war so Roosevelt began a lend lease act with Britain. We sent all the weapons to kill Germans with. Of course we all know what happened shortly after….Japan attacked. So this time we are going to arm Ukraine to kill Russians and then it will be china who does the sneak attack

+4 # Yep...this is bad — J Grayman 2022-05-09 20:06

I posted about it Friday...Hal also mentioned a crucial piece of info regarding the Lend-Lease Act on his radio show...it was introduced in Congress Jan of 22'...so there's that tidbit.

+3 # Yep…but — JohnnyinKY 2022-05-09 20:45

Quoting Edric_DSW:

I posted about it Friday...Hal also mentioned a crucial piece of info regarding the Lend-Lease Act on his radio show...it was introduced in Congress Jan of 22'...so there's that tidbit.

Yea I remember him mentioning it. I’m talking about the historical ww2 part. I don’t recall him elaborating on how this is the same thing we did with Britain in ww2. But perhaps I didn’t hear. Either way it’s something people need to know about. This is almost the same exact thing we did during ww2 and ended up with us being in a hot war

+3 # Yep...What's Next?? — Nevada Swede 2022-05-09 20:20

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Yep..It could get even worse...Lend Lease to China??

+6 # █▓▒░ OFF / ON TOPIC ░▒▓█ — Palehorse 2022-05-09 19:16

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As I continue to see news articles about the shortages
of baby formula an end times Bible verse came to mind.
I wonder if it was meant to describe this very day.

“And woe unto them that are with child, and to
them that give suck in those days.' Matt 24:19

“For then shall be great tribulation, such as was
not since the beginning of the world to this time,
no, nor ever shall be. And except those days
should be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved” Matt 24:21-22

-2 # You're joking, right. And clearly not on topic either. — Bruce Oxenford 2022-05-09 19:30

Have you never heard of breastfeeding?

I recall Jesus saying something about, 'how can you understand heavenly things, if you can't understand worldly things".

No, a baby formula shortage is not
e end of the world.

+6 # █▓▒░ OFF / ON TOPIC ░▒▓█ — Palehorse 2022-05-09 21:05

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Quote:

No, a baby formula shortage is not
e end of the world.

The author of the verse I quoted simply stated
that the feeding of infants would be worrisome
in a time of "great tribulation." It's a symptom
of the existing conditions, not the cause.

Only an idiot would deduce that such was assisting
in the "end of the world."

-3 # Feeding infants — Bruce Oxenford 2022-05-09 22:53

Feeding infants during a time of great tribulation is not worrisome to the faithful. "
Quote, your above mentioned Author.

Faith is the antidote to worry.

# █▓▒░ OFF / ON TOPIC ░▒▓█ — Palehorse 2022-05-10 10:04

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Notice the word "struggled" when describing the burden "to produce enough breast milk..."

"We found this recipe through the Weston Price
Foundation after my wife struggled to produce
enough breast milk to feed our twin baby boys.
The boys ABSOLUTELY thrive on it! They are
developing optimally, have great skin, are never
sick and are happy and joyful."

Hope this assists with your much needed
education moonpie.

https://drjockers.com/homemade-baby-formula/

+4 # RE: █▓▒░ OFF / ON TOPIC ░▒▓█ — BeenThere 2022-05-09 21:25

We all need to remember to be civil with one another, because it may be that one another is all we have.

-3 # RE: █▓▒░ OFF / ON TOPIC ░▒▓█ — BeenThere 2022-05-09 21:59

Palehorse, out of curiosity, did you give me a thumbs down?

-1 # BeenThere... — Bruce Oxenford 2022-05-09 22:43

I brought you up from negitive to zero... I agree with your civility point of view . Others may not, yet I appreciate your neutrality and peacemaking attitude.

# RE: BeenThere... — BeenThere 2022-05-10 09:50

Thank you - and ditto......

+5 # RE: You're joking, right. And clearly not on topic either. — Paul Kurzlee 2022-05-09 19:58

Quoting MoonDog:

Have you never heard of breastfeeding?

I recall Jesus saying something about, 'how can you understand heavenly things, if you can't understand worldly things".

No, a baby formula shortage is not
e end of the world.

Health Ranger had a revolting description of the formulas on the podcast today. This shortage is actually a good thing believe it or not. According to Adams these formulas are just chemicals and sugar water that causes babies life long issues. This seems absolutely correct to me. Just look at all the fat kids today.

+5 # Most Baby Formulas are unhealthy — Faith11 2022-05-09 21:35

I trust Mike Adams on this, because he is food scientist. Baby formula's are unhealthy. I realize some people don't ever read food labels. It's pretty easy to get, educated on this look on the web and print off a long list food toxins, chemical pesticides you do not want in your food especially not a babies food.

+7 # Some women can't nurse... — Doug Brown 2022-05-09 19:54

Some women have deficiencies and
can't nurse. This formula shortage is
hitting some new families hard.

-1 # Future news headline? — Bruce Oxenford 2022-05-09 19:02

"Poland, leveled by Russian Federation, on the way to Berlin. Parisians already fleeing"

Smooth decision making Poland has allowed by protestors upon a Russian Ambassador, huh?

-2 # Time for a laugh...Or cry? — J Grayman 2022-05-09 19:01

Sorry, couldn't resist posting this one:

"Target Launches ‘Gender Affirming’ Products Including Chest Binders And ‘Packing Underwear" -

"Ahead of Pride month, Target is launching a line of “gender-affirming” products including “compression tops” and “chest binders, undergarments that conceal breasts, and “packing underwear” that conceal male genitals."

Can't wait to see the cmmnts on this one! Figured we could all use a laugh or two...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/target-launches-gender-affirming-products-including-chest-binders-packing-underwear/

-9 # RE: Time for a laugh...Or cry? — Paul Kurzlee 2022-05-09 20:14

Quoting Edric_DSW:

Sorry, couldn't resist posting this one:

"Target Launches ‘Gender Affirming’ Products Including Chest Binders And ‘Packing Underwear" -

"Ahead of Pride month, Target is launching a line of “gender-affirming” products including “compression tops” and “chest binders, undergarments that conceal breasts, and “packing underwear” that conceal male genitals."

Can't wait to see the cmmnts on this one! Figured we could all use a laugh or two...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/target-launches-gender-affirming-products-including-chest-binders-packing-underwear/

Pervert. GTFO. You sick mother fucker. NOBODY here thinks that is funny you FAGGOT. PERVERT. There now have a good laugh you sick puke.

+4 # Excuse me? — J Grayman 2022-05-09 20:26

Must of offended your "sensative" side!
I hope that's your sense of humor Paul!
Who are you to pretend to even know me?
...and I am the sick one?
Your constant calls for violence and overall demeanor has demonstrated clearly that you Paul are truly the sick one.
Hal has even had to warn you about your rhetoric. It's ppl like you that cause problems that other have to fix. I bet you have a long trial of "successes" with that attitude and mouth of yours! In fact, maybe you went off b/c you'll be doing your spring shopping at Target?

+4 # Now I regret it... — J Grayman 2022-05-09 20:11

I apologize for the above post.
My bad.
Still working on my "inclusiveness".

+8 # Apologize — Jnene 2022-05-09 20:25

I’m not sure why you are apologizing. If it’s true, you are just stating the facts. Not sure how that makes you a pervert.

-7 # They're taking my money — Samuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-05-09 18:57

I got horrible letters in the mail I really think he was government wants me to commit suicide losing my mother losing half my income working now they're sending me letters taken away all my medical insurance and social security benefits they said I was turning them for making too much money and they're investigating it and I might owe them money for the last 2 years just now this had to happen when my mother passed her brothers and sisters are so rotten I'm very upset I lost all that money the $2,000 I just need to folks to pray for me I know nobody tells you as their personal problems but not everybody's a national security threat or asset I am and I'm being picked on really bad and I thank you folks need to pray for me I'm not a warminder I'm not a warminder I don't go to war wow talk about being devastated I wish I didn't pay my bills this month I was denied extended credit I cleaned and make 35,000 a year they denied me it's unheard of I only owe $6,000 out total in debt and I've been paying on my credit card for 2 years or should I do along the woods and love I'm a diabetic how am I going to get my pills how am I going to get my insulin

-4 # what the H3ll, — Dudimus Maximus 2022-05-09 20:20

does this have to do with the topic? this guy/person/thing commadeers this board with emotional drama, and some people fawn over it "offering support" and sympathy and encouragement. I suspect u are getting played. You run down his rabbit holes, SAS, diabetes

go to some sappy site where they deal in these things.

+1 # Sammy you will be ok! — Faith11 2022-05-09 19:32

Diabetes 2 is curable Dr. Jason Fung who is a total genius is curing diabetes 2 patients of read his book or watch his video and simply cure yourself! Jason Fung explains dietary methods to reverse type 2 diabetes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAwgdX5VxGc

Even if you owe them money which sometime people do for overpayment, don't sweat it they will take a small amount of money each month until it is
paid off.
Consider getting a small line of credit at a credit union. Use it wisely in case of emergency.
Another brilliant Indian doctor Pradip worth listening to about diabetes and health . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuOvn4UqznU&t=1s

+1 # RE: They're taking my money — JFY 2022-05-09 19:29

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Sammy, get someone who can help you straighten things out. It sounds like you're in a real mess and in a life or death situation.

Don't wait for things to snowball. Get help urgently.

+4 # RE: They're taking my money — clove 2022-05-09 19:10

Sammy, call Social Security. There are provisions if your mom supported you and she has passed away. In some cases you can receive part of her benefits. If she was supporting you. The wait is over an hour usually; and they can cut you off. But stick with it. If you are disabled, get a disability lawyer to help you get dusability. If you are already on disability cpjust call SS. Also some states will provide free insurance for disabled persons. Make some phone calls. And good luck.

+3 # Sammy DON'T give up — Bob 2022-05-09 19:06

Things sound dire right now. But we serve a Mighty God who will make a way. Prayers for you!

# Expelling — aun7bd@gmail.com 2022-05-09 18:54

Expelling is drastic! That’s a “ hand washing” to foes... back in school days, expelling is no campus return!

+2 # Off topic...supplements — J Grayman 2022-05-09 18:52

Something to keep an eye on, Congress has attempted this before...just bill now, hasn't been voted on...but the way things are headed...who knows, may not be able to get anything at a reasonable cost soon!

"New Bill Threatens Jail Time for Supplement Companies"

"Sen. Dick Durbin has launched his supplement attack by introducing his “Dietary Supplement Listing Act of 2022” with Senator Mike Braun (R-IN). This bill threatens your ability to access the supplements you rely on to stay healthy."

https://anh-usa.org/new-bill-threatens-jail-time-for-supplement-companies/

+1 # tit for tat — skellybob 2022-05-09 18:22

meaningless

# Roshambo: — Dudimus Maximus 2022-05-09 18:36

Quoting skellybob:

meaningless

maybe hit the Polish ambassador in the head
with a blivot on his way out.

+5 # Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman — Bruce Oxenford 2022-05-09 18:00

"The demolition of monuments to the heroes of World War II, the desecration of graves, and now the disruption of the flower-laying ceremony on a holy day for every decent person prove the already obvious -- the West has set a course for the reincarnation of fascism," Zakharova added in the post. "But, as I said, we cannot be intimidated."

-8 # RE: Worsening . . . — Samuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-05-09 17:57

I said Mr Turner on the radio I'm looking forward to the side of my own grief sorry when I hit send it sent it changed it I thought it clarified it

+1 # Sir, you should seek help... — lmschofield44@hotmail.com 2022-05-09 18:33

I feel bad that you lost your mother. But you sound as if you have more going on than grief. Perhaps a gambling problem? A financial problem? Perhaps some professional counseling would be in order...not to mention a writing class...please use punctuation.

-8 # I think the worst — Samuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-05-09 17:55

This is the darkest week in history I want to have a 2000 in the bank to nothing no money to play any take five I can't make any money anywhere I I just government wants me to commit s
suicides mom died all her brother's favorite numbers are coming in nothing I played is not straight one number came in box I hope Mr Turner's interesting about the Russians tonight that will get my money off my own problems but my own Grease I'm looking forward to hearing him on the radio with the Turner

# Everyone Is Worshipping At The — Forrest Mosby 2022-05-09 17:55

Altar Of Jenpsaki right now…Singing its praises cause it left when it did and made room for a Double First replacement…
perhaps The Jenpsaki has some idea to alleviate the crisis and bring on World Peace?..
Evidently its some kind of hot shit, to hear the other talking heads…
Once they annoint someone a single name..algore, jenpsaki,etc then they are one step from dim/lib sainthood….its on its way for certain sure

+7 # Why doesn't the USA... — Gulfcaptain 2022-05-09 17:01

Why doesn't the USA celebrate the defeat of the Fascist Nazis? Answer: What does the House of representatives bring into the chambers and display? https://history.house.gov/Blog/Detail/15032450168. And what is on each side of the podium in this house? https://history.house.gov/Education/Fact-Sheets/Rostrum-Fact-Sheet2/ Who did the US bring over after WWII under operation "paperclip"? Who is the US supporting in Ukraine?

-1 # The Etruscans — Man of the Atom 2022-05-10 00:16

If you got back far enough you will find the fasces (bound rods and axes) were a symbol of the authority of the state (king at that time). Etruscan kings ruled Rome and the Latin cities until about 500 BC. Tuscany is the region of modern Italy where Etruria was located. They were educators of the more primitive Latins and recent research shows a connection between their genes and even the genes of their cattle with some people and cattle living in modern Turkey (Anatolia, Asia Minor to the Greeks). This is likely the connection to the Trojan War and the idea Romans had that they were descendants of people who came to Italy from Troy. It was the Etruscans who had left Asia Minor. Take the Time Machine forward to Mussolini in 1922 or so and you the fascists need a strongman as ruler in place of the king, a dictator.

+20 # But You Know What? — Forrest Mosby 2022-05-09 16:54

Its all scripted…King O’s 3rd term w a ventriloquists dummy stand-in, mouthing what hes told…Provoking Russia in Ukraine until the war is begun…If it wasn't shit like Moskva and red syrup it would be something else…It [dismantling of America]began [in earnest] in 2008 and hasnt let up…That fucking idiot Carter laid the groundwork with Kissinger and Brezenski but O did the leg work…Its [Final Act of The Script] is in play now…events will dictate the final details but expect nothing but What you see coming…War, Starvation, Economic Depression, [true] Civil War, Cities Burning, Millions of Humans Migrating, Invasion..,Its all written…Just the sequence is missing…Debate the details all you want, The country and its citizens are fucked

+7 # Absolutely — Wilbursdick 2022-05-09 16:56

All of this
X 1000

+16 # In a world... — Gulfcaptain 2022-05-09 16:48

In a world where people hold up signed that say; "Abortion saves lives", where people fight for the right to convince (groom) little children to take steroids and to mutilate their sexual organs, where the idea of making America "great" is a threat to national security, and where corruption and violence are seen as a "right" for the far left (and ONLY for the left) to accomplish their goal of the destruction of America, can we not see the overall social decay of the western world? Why is this behavior being encouraged by the various western governments? We see the fruits of this twisted godless mob of Marxist death worshipers. They are the minority, yet they are given full political power to Vito the majority in what is normal human behaviour. ITS A PLAN. A SCRIPT TO USHER IN FAILURE AND COLLAPSE.

There is no other explanation. A generation of degenerates. When the USA does recruit these weak and soy soaked blue haired freaks, they will probably have to do what Russia did back during the battle of Russia against the Nazi's. Hand one man an empty rifle, the next a single clip of bullets. Now, RUN!!

+2 # In seven years with Christ on the thrown in Jerusalem... — Dolph 2022-05-09 17:19

... the discussion will begin with good vs evil; Christian obedience vs. rebellion. Not the stupid Poles, Russians or Brits; Republicans vs. Democrats; conservatives vs. liberals; rich vs. poor; blacks vs. whites; Catholics vs. Protestants. Mark my words.

-8 # maybe Russia is losing — skellybob 2022-05-09 16:47

and Putin doesnt want to start WWIII

# Bitcoin down 7% in 24 hours — carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-05-09 16:27

Things are happening. I do not know what - but $40 billion has been lost in devaluation.
Maybe Elon is cashing in some chips.
At the same time gold lost 1.8%
Again - someone needs cash quickly.

# RE: Bitcoin down 7% in 24 hours — mjc 2022-05-09 16:50

Quoting carlireland34@gmail.com:

Things are happening. I do not know what - but $40 billion has been lost in devaluation.
Maybe Elon is cashing in some chips.
At the same time gold lost 1.8%
Again - someone needs cash quickly.

Perhaps 'Bitcoin' is not the best gauge of global volatility. It has enough of its own innate volatility, since it has no innate value.

What is its value based on?
Kcal?
BTUs?
How many grams of Bitcoin are used in a Tomahawk missile?
What, if any, global trades (cough.....petrodollars) MUST be done in Bitcoin?

It has its value......which is purely driven by supply and demand......

with most of the demand being speculative. The volume being traded dwarfs the limited technical demand......as a medium of currency transfer ourside state controls.

# It really does not matter what Bitcoin is — carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-05-09 16:55

if people sell $40 billion dollars in a day - they are doing so for a reason.
Maybe they need the money in a hurry......

+1 # RE: It really does not matter what Bitcoin is — mjc 2022-05-09 17:27

Quoting carlireland34@gmail.com:

if people sell $40 billion dollars in a day - they are doing so for a reason.
Maybe they need the money in a hurry......

And maybe they're BANKING their gains on a valueless commodity because they think it will loose value!
They they buy back when they think it will gain value!

It has NO intrinsic value.
It's value is driven ONLY by supply and demand.

So its value is driven by a (limited) immediate need.....and speculation.

-1 # Neither... — Gulfcaptain 2022-05-09 19:04

Bitcoin has "no intrinsic value"? What does the FED "bilk" debt note have? Intrinsic value? At least Bitcoin has a limit of how many can be produced. The US "dollar" can be produced out of thin air on a promise (debt) in unlimited amounts. Understand, the FED debt note is a bad check no one is allowed to cash, only pass on to the next guy who then receives it as it depreciated. Bitcoin HAS intrinsic value because it has to be MINED which uses energy of value. Understand? The US dollar is electronically created with little to no energy (value) expended other than the value of ink and paper. The anti Bitcoin/crypto propaganda stems from the dollar brokers (banks and interest institutions) that scam you out of your hard earned energy (labor) by getting you to pay and be charged compounding interest on DEBT, not value. See?

-1 # RE: Neither... — mjc 2022-05-09 19:47

Quoting Gulfcaptain:

Bitcoin has "no intrinsic value"? What does the FED "bilk" debt note have? Intrinsic value? At least Bitcoin has a limit of how many can be produced. The US "dollar" can be produced out of thin air on a promise (debt) in unlimited amounts. Understand, the FED debt note is a bad check no one is allowed to cash, only pass on to the next guy who then receives it as it depreciated. Bitcoin HAS intrinsic value because it has to be MINED which uses energy of value. Understand? The US dollar is electronically created with little to no energy (value) expended other than the value of ink and paper. The anti Bitcoin/crypto propaganda stems from the dollar brokers (banks and interest institutions) that scam you out of your hard earned energy (labor) by getting you to pay and be charged compounding interest on DEBT, not value. See?

The intrinsic value of Bitcoin is.....NOTHING.

If the balloon goes up tomorrow.....
and I have a beans......
and you have a Bitcoin.......

I eat the beans.
You eat the Bitcoin.

-1 # RE: It really does not matter what Bitcoin is — carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-05-09 17:35

Buying and selling happens all day every day - gambling.
Again, it does not go down 10% in day without reason.

# Bitcoin down 9.62 % in 24 hours — carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-05-09 16:48

Bitcoin is crashing.

+2 # Dow Jones 13 month low. NASDAQ down 4% today — carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-05-09 16:47

In the new Russian parts of Ukraine - they are integrating directly into Russia. Already broadcasting Russian TV and using the rouble as currency. The Ukrainian hryvnia will be gone in 4 months.

+1 # Good news! — Clare 2022-05-09 22:17

Fruits of the Russian liberation of Donbass.

-1 # RE: Dow Jones 13 month low. NASDAQ down 4% today — mjc 2022-05-09 17:03

Quoting skellybob:

and Putin doesnt want to start WWIII

Those are 2 different issues:
1) Is he losing? Depersonalizing it.....is Russia losing?
2) Does he want to start WWIII?

1) Yes. Quoting carlireland34@gmail.com:

In the new Russian parts of Ukraine - they are integrating directly into Russia. Already broadcasting Russian TV and using the rouble as currency. The Ukrainian hryvnia will be gone in 4 months.

True.
And the people there have been fighting each other, to move their borders, for centuries.

There do appear to be 'ethnically' Russian/Ukrainian/Polish peoples living within this contested area.

At times.....Ukraine and Poland have completely disappeared as states. Yet all attempts to 'integrate' these peoples ..... have failed. They retain distinct languages and cultures.

Perhaps at a certain point, there can be a Grand Accommodation......redrawing the current borders based on ethnic realities and 'who wants to live in what country'.

But NO ONE wants that.
EVERYONE believes they can get what they want without negotiation, and possible loss.

-1 # The Ukrainians are the ones who are losing on the battlefield, the only place it counts — Man of the Atom 2022-05-10 00:26

"BIGLY."

+1 # The Kurds have the same problem — Man of the Atom 2022-05-10 00:24

They look more like Europeans than do the Turks, Arabs, and Persians. They are spread over 4 countries: Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria.

Look at Europe - people in Catalonia (city Barcelona) do not want to be part of Spain.

Here in the USA many State populations would vote to leave "the Union" if the nonsense that GulfCaptain has pointed out above continues full throttle.

# RE: The Kurds have the same problem — mjc 2022-05-10 12:46

Quoting Man of the Atom:

They look more like Europeans than do the Turks, Arabs, and Persians. They are spread over 4 countries: Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria.

Look at Europe - people in Catalonia (city Barcelona) do not want to be part of Spain.

Here in the USA many State populations would vote to leave "the Union" if the nonsense that GulfCaptain has pointed out above continues full throttle.

Honest to God......if you spoke English, I'd reply.

Your post is, although intriguing, indecipherable.

I have no where to begin.

+1 # Read it in light of your comments — Man of the Atom 2022-05-10 23:32

You were talking about giving ethnic groups a "right to choose" basically.

The Kurds for instance do not have that as the governments they are in do not want to lose territory.

# RE: Read it in light of your comments — mjc 2022-05-18 19:15

Quoting Man of the Atom:

You were talking about giving ethnic groups a "right to choose" basically.

The Kurds for instance do not have that as the governments they are in do not want to lose territory.

I agree.

If the UN recognizes the right of any region to secede from its host country (and it does).....then perhaps it's time to settle as many of these 'insurgencies' (mostly ethnic driven) as possible.

So many of these are driven by decisions made between 1880 and 1945 that divided 'peoples' as spoils of war. Poles became 'Ukrainians'. Germans became 'Russians'.

Except they remained .... who they were. They never adopted the languages of the customs of the nations they were absorbed by.

It seems that every nation in Europe has a grievance at this point.

And this is EXACTLY what Washington warned us to avoid.

That is the OLD WORLD. WE made a new world here.

The grievances go back hundreds of years in most of these disputes. And who is the 'good guy' has been lost to time. Roll back another 20yrs at a time, and each side has valid grievances.

Maybe have a UN conference....they already have so many!

Air the grievances. Make no judgements. Show who wants to live where at the end, after....in the case of disputes.....having votes to determine that.

-1 # Bitcoin down 8.3 % in 24 hours — carlireland34@gmail.com 2022-05-09 16:33

Financial gravity has taken over - the plate spinning has crashed :=)

+4 # RE: Worsening . . . — RockyMountainBeerMan 2022-05-09 16:12

Yup, keep poking that big bear with big teeth, big claws, and loves chess...

+5 # Estrangement and Alienation Leads To Illogically Desperate Actions — OccamsRazor 2022-05-09 16:11

I don't understand this, the West wants to cutoff communications with Russia and then still want's to ask Russia for favors like asking them to let the AZOV defenders walk free. What about the rest of Ukraine? The more they cut off communications, the less chance any ask or compromise will be had, one that could very well save lives.

+7 # Absolutely! — Gregg W 2022-05-09 15:42

I would have done the same thing! That was disgraceful and should have resulted in a formal apology from the leaders of Poland.

There is a history between Poland and Russia. I get the feeling they hold on to grudges.

-8 # RE: Absolutely! — Haarnaś 2022-05-09 16:34

Quoting Gregg W:

I would have done the same thing! That was disgraceful and should have resulted in a formal apology from the leaders of Poland.

There is a history between Poland and Russia. I get the feeling they hold on to grudges.

You display an appalling naivete and the lack of familiarity with the current events and past history. Poland's Foreign Ministry already extended a formal apology before the Russians decided to withdraw their ambassador. Hal just did not update his page yet! This incident appears to have nothing to do with complicated and painful history of Russo-Polish relations

+1 # RE: Absolutely! — The Deplorable Renegade 2022-05-09 15:55

Gregg W, uh, do you know the TRUE history between Poland and Russia? Under normal circumstances I might agree about the incident being wrong but Russia is the one who invaded someone else's country and causing so much death and destruction. Talk to older generations of people in Poland and ask them what they went through at the hands of Russians during the Soviet-Warsaw Pact era then you'll understand.

# Semantics — Man of the Atom 2022-05-10 00:35

They were "invaded" from the West by Nazi Germany on September 1, 1939 and Eastern Poland was "occupied" by Soviet Russia a few weeks later. After "Operation Barbarossa" on June 22, 1941, the Germans swept to the East and after several years Poland was "liberated" by Soviet Russia. Despite US "guarantees", a "homegrown" communist government was established and supported by Soviet Russia until 1991 when they became a "democratic republic" but there is still a left wing (40% or more) that opposes the sitting government. It all makes sense now, doesn't it - or maybe not.

-4 # You got that right! — Haarnaś 2022-05-09 16:48

Quoting The Deplorable Renegade:

Gregg W, uh, do you know the TRUE history between Poland and Russia? Under normal circumstances I might agree about the incident being wrong but Russia is the one who invaded someone else's country and causing so much death and destruction. Talk to older generations of people in Poland and ask them what they went through at the hands of Russians during the Soviet-Warsaw Pact era then you'll understand.

Quoting The Deplorable Renegade:

Gregg W, uh, do you know the TRUE history between Poland and Russia? Under normal circumstances I might agree about the incident being wrong but Russia is the one who invaded someone else's country and causing so much death and destruction. Talk to older generations of people in Poland and ask them what they went through at the hands of Russians during the Soviet-Warsaw Pact era then you'll understand.

Folks on both sides of the Right Pond continue to be manipulated by the CIA-controlled media and brainwashed concerning complicated millennial history of the Russo-Polish relations. Who know, this begins to look to me like the false flag to me, that will finally send nukes to some American military base in Poland (Russian are anything but naive people) from Kaliningrad and result in NATO incasion via the Suwalki Gap. NATO is ramping up! Russians know exactly what is happening in Polish politics and who owns it! Maybe they will even help Polish Army to arrange a nice coup d'état to send the current Khazarians in Warsaw back to Tel Aviv to impress Hall and help themselves in the future! Russia is desperately looking for reasonable allies in this. Poland should take a second look at its current posture.

# Poland in 1938 — pko60 2022-05-09 16:45

Almost nobody knows that:

Poland abused the shock of Czechoslovakia and occupied the Těšín region, which belonged to Czechoslovakia, already the day after the signing of the Munich Agreement on October 1, 1938, actively deploying its own troops.

Poland was the first state after Nazi Germany - militarily well prepared and with a delay of less than 48 hours - to abuse the position of Czechoslovakia, which had been weakened by Hitler's Germany, to militarily occupy and annex a territory foreign to the state itself.

Poland was not as peaceful and innocent as it likes to pretend today! Probably it is not today either.

+1 # Arthur R. — afroizman01 2022-05-09 15:38

There are millions of refugees from Ukraine in Poland! What did you expect?

+7 # I'd expect Poland would give the Russian Ambassador — paulattahoe 2022-05-09 15:53

better security...

-4 # RE: I'd expect Poland would give the Russian Ambassador — Haarnaś 2022-05-09 16:28

Quoting paulattahoe:

better security...

No, Poland could not provide better security due to the prevailing Khazarfian political climate there and the script that is obviously written by Victoria Nuland in Washington's Foggy Bottom, namely that Ukrainians can do in Poland whatever they want without restraint!

The Russian ambassador had his own security detail with him anyway (the infamous man in black shirts and hats) and they were not able to prevent the incident.

+2 # Could not provide better security? — paulattahoe 2022-05-09 19:04

Do you have proof of that statement? I doubt you have any proof..

Quoting Haarnaś:

Quoting paulattahoe:
better security...

No, Poland could not provide better security due to the prevailing Khazarfian political climate there and the script that is obviously written by Victoria Nuland in Washington's Foggy Bottom, namely that Ukrainians can do in Poland whatever they want without restraint!

The Russian ambassador had his own security detail with him anyway (the infamous man in black shirts and hats) and they were not able to prevent the incident.

+15 # Provocation in Warsaw — Mirko 2022-05-09 15:17

Today's provocation in Warsaw, during which the Russian ambassador was abused, was organized by Natalia Panchenko, the leader of the so-called "Euromaidan" from Kiev. The spraying itself was done by Iryna Zemlyana, an activist and even an animator of Soros funds and organizations in Ukraine. She is also a huge fan of Stepan Bandera. It is disgraceful that the Warsaw authorities did not provide protection to the Russian ambassador - there are over 200,000 Ukrainians in Warsaw alone. The police and intelligence had to know what the Ukrainian circles were planning and did nothing to prevent it. Since it was only doused with paint without any maneuvering, perhaps it was even with the quiet consent of the authorities ...

+1 # RE: Provocation in Warsaw — Haarnaś 2022-05-09 16:56

Quoting Mirko:

Iryna Zemlyana, an activist and even an animator of Soros funds and organizations in Ukraine. She is also a huge fan of Stepan Bandera.

Just as we have surmised all along. Clearly, Neo-Nazis and Victoria Nuland are in Control in Poland and elsewhere. Stepan Bandera, the founder of the Uke Nazis during WWII was assassinated by Russian in Western Germany where he was given asylum after WWII as a anti-Communist and a war hero, in 1959.

This doe not look good with all this evil in the air!

+5 # no paint actually — Mirko 2022-05-09 16:00

it was a syrup not a paint. Russian ambasador admitted that himself. Fake blood the same as one used in Bucha...

+1 # If all those refugees — Gregg W 2022-05-09 15:44

Are hostile to Russia, Warsaw is becoming a prime target.

+11 # Fantastic Info — John Jones 2022-05-09 15:21

Great, info. Thanks. That is the point of this forum for great intel like this.

+9 # Martial law — Bobbyjames1 2022-05-09 14:52

Martial law is the only way the communist left can survive upcoming midterm elections!

+3 # Not the only! — Gregg W 2022-05-09 15:45

They are really good at cheating and lying about it later.

+11 # RE: Worsening . . . — Paul Revere 2022-05-09 14:40

PsyOp... Obama's generally very effective PsyOp team is trying to draw Putin into declaring war!

+1 # First thing I thought of — Gregg W 2022-05-09 15:46

When I saw the attack on the ambassador…

That had obummer written all over it!

I don’t know why. It just felt SO obvious.

-10 # Too much gluten — Samuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-05-09 14:36

CNN's headline news is about how Russian mid-range officers are not being orders about Mark March and forward moving forward that's something not to be rejoicing about it's how do you tell your troops the Virgin Mary could be leader of Russia right now and they the West would be still doing the same thing they're doing if the Virgin Mary was the president they want to completely destroy Russia's capability to be a nation so they can have control of those mountains and control the world was the scientific version of The ark of God it is what this is because where they are in the world it doesn't matter who's running an occupies there they're a threat of running the whole world or the whole world runs the whole world do you get it now I'm at the point in life where I think I'd like to change my ID as always being living in Russian not be considered American living there basically vanishing vanishing with my mother gone there's really no use to stick around here it's failed business ventures she protected me that protection is gone I love her so much I'll miss her so much she kept me out of trouble I don't know what to do with myself I don't have no one to talk to no friends I'm probably better off just fading away

+10 # I know — John Jones 2022-05-09 14:51

I know you don't ever respond to anyone but I have a question: Do you ever look at your posts? Are you proud of what you put down? You can do better with punctuation. I can do better with punctuation. There is no editor, but you don't make any sense. I'm not trying to be mean but just look and reread what you put in print. Just once.

-12 # I have a big fan base Poland — Samuel Badolato UNPAID SINCE JANUARY - SHUT OFF 07-24-2022 2022-05-09 14:17

I like to sing for fun for enjoyment not for a living I'm known as future man 1899 on the star app there's over 20 million people that have that app I have probably about 50% of my customers while they're not customers fans they like my music they listen to me had me put down to be alerted when I sing something they come from Poland there's a Poland royalty Poland elite I have a lot to them castles folks and stuff folks with yachts and very rich folks listen to me from Poland I only started was about 50 folks on that app now I'm up to 2500 folks that listen to me all the time in about 5,000 it actually come there but don't have me put down to be alerted I don't pay for it but if I paid for the app I probably have a half a million of them so I feel bad for pulling I feel bad for the nation upon since so many people like my music there but Russia needed to do that to disrespect has to end they have to think of what they're doing and what they've done and turn course and that's Poland and all of Eastern Europe Russia don't want to control them Russia wants to get along with them

+2 # Use gramma Roy app — Jessiebeaner 2022-05-09 17:18

Please

+3 # Grammarly — Jessiebeaner 2022-05-09 17:19

Please

+5 # As expected — Bruce Oxenford 2022-05-09 14:13

As expected, for the safety and sovereignty of a nations dignitaries. Poland just lost out more than a Russian Ambassador, how long until all Russian exports of all commodities are withheld from Poland?

-1 # Russian have done the right thing — Haarnaś 2022-05-09 14:12

This business of Poland being America's favorite lapdog has to be ended by the Poles. It makes them look ludicrous and everyone knows that the US is behind did. Arrest Irina and throw her in jail. Give her a fair trial and appropriate sentence from the Polish legal code for her crime. Stop being a Yankee lapdog. Have the Polish military take down the current Khazarian Neocons running the country.

By the way we in the US should do the same with all the people who were involved and directed from behind the scene this incident. A good way to begin here!

# RE: Worsening . . . — mjc 2022-05-09 14:11

Can't blame them.

Per Article 40 of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations :

"The receiving State shall treat consular officers with due respect and shall take all appropriate steps to prevent any attack on their person, freedom or dignity."

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%20596/volume-596-I-8638-English.pdf

That said.....the US created the Diplomatic Security Service precisely because most host countries DO NOT provide the required security. So relying on them to do so is a recipe for disaster.

This could have been much worse.....an assassinated ambassador.

Poland has the legal culpability (failed to provide the security required by the Vienna Convention).

But Russia should have known better than to expect it.

Both states failed this particular ambassador.....luckily, not fatally.

+6 # Who can blame them ... — Pierre Derelicto 2022-05-09 13:48

... and it's not as if the target on Poland's back wasn't big enough, already -- with the aid and support it's given all the NATO forces who are too cowardly to declare war.

https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/14583337

-1 # RE: Who can blame them ... — The Deplorable Renegade 2022-05-09 14:05

Poland has had a target on its back ever since the USSR broke up and even then it was 3 more years before the Russians finally withdrew from Poland. There’s always a target on their back just because they are Poland.

+11 # RE: Worsening . . . — bleedingblue 2022-05-09 13:44

expected by any country who was disrespected like that

-19 # RE: Worsening . . . — The Deplorable Renegade 2022-05-09 14:02

Question: Where was Russia’s respect for the sovereignty and independence of Ukraine when they invaded? Answer: IT NEVER EXISTED. putin wants to revive the old USSR. Poland could be next. The Poles have LONG memories of what they went through under Russian occupation after WW2. The Poles will fight to the death against any Russian invasion. Putin is running so short on troops he just gave a nationwide conscription order for all available manpower of military age. It remains to be seen how that works out.

+6 # Soooo... — Gulfcaptain 2022-05-09 16:31

So YOU know that the Russians are reviving the old USSR do you? Talk to Putin lately? What if it was the US surrounded by hostile, deal breaking Chinese bases filled with bio-weapon labs meant for YOU? What if the Chinese had been bombing and killing thousands of Americans in Hawaii since 2014? What would YOU do to stop it? Negotiate? What if the Chinese told you to piss off? What then? Wait for them to attack your homeland killing more Americans? Russia has every right to stop what was/is happening. They tried to avoid this war. NATO and Ukraine ignored them. But you know that. Propaganda is a powerful tool in any war. It seems to have worked on you.

# RE: Soooo... — The Deplorable Renegade 2022-05-09 19:29

Gulfcaptain, no, no one's propaganda works on me. Putin himself has been quoted many times over the years as saying the demise of the USSR should never have happened. Just google it. Russian media has interviewed him many times over years. And let's not forget Putin himself served in the Soviet KGB secret police right up until the USSR officially went out of existence. The KGB were "The Sword And Shield Of The Party", the ones who kept the Soviet system in power through state-sponsored terror of the population. There are still a lot of people alive in Russia today who grew up under the Soviet system and swear up and down that THEY WERE BETTER OFF COMMUNISM. I'm not being critical of you. Just offering some food for thought. I've also personally known people from the former USSR and Eastern Europe who have suffered under communism. My wife and her family were from Cuba and also suffered under communism. Possibly the only Russians I could have good feelings about are the victims of communism but anyone who still believes in the old Soviet system that's another story.

-1 # Discourse — jtage 2022-05-09 16:12

We should never drink only Koolaid, no matter where it comes from. I, for one, like that you have a different perspective. If we only listen to what we feel is right, we could miss an opportunity. Shutting descenting voices down is what we accuse the left of doing. Let's not be that type of Cornhole

+9 # MSNBC APOLOGETIC — Doug Brown 2022-05-09 14:29

Clown world.
Is this writer authentic?

# RE: MSNBC APOLOGETIC — JFY 2022-05-09 15:27

Quoting Doug Brown:

Clown world.
Is this writer authentic?

Actually, he's a regular poster like many of us are; it's just that on some issues he inexplicably cannot wean himself off of the LameDream Media and their lies.

# RE: MSNBC APOLOGETIC — The Deplorable Renegade 2022-05-09 19:32

Doug and JFY, I trust you're not referring to me. and I promise I know better than to trust the MSM.

-1 # Congratulations — RealAmericanPride 2022-05-09 14:29

That is the dumbest shit I have read all day. Thanks

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